Reacting to the Ringer's Top 100 Players in the NBA
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Overall I think this list is decent and consistent, but I can't help but notice it overrates some young players who have hype/potential. If you compare them to the players under them it just doesn't seem right. Like Paulo over Wagner and Ayton. Ant Edwards over Fox and Garland. Both stand out to me as purely picking for the future.
@WheresWaldo05
Жыл бұрын
Garland Ant Fox This coming from a wolves fan.
@AwesomeSauceForever
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lol paulo is better than ayton
No Josh hart and lavine at 52 is wild
Brandon Ingram that low is criminal
@QuadDawgg
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BI is as good as Tatum and Brown yeah i said it
@nish8399
Жыл бұрын
@@QuadDawgg no what😭 bi is nowhere near either.
@QuadDawgg
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@@nish8399 how? he was injured a lot this season and carried the pelicans into a play in spot after coming back from injury
Lavine's rank killed me
they rank jalen green 123 while being the best scorer in the class but rank cade cunningham rank 72 who has barley played any games 🤣
@HJ17GAMING
Жыл бұрын
Jalen green reminds me of Bradly Beal from last year. Puts up insane points but doesn’t offer anything else rn. Hopefully he can become a great playmaker or be in a better situation. Dude has insane talent and potential
@vaporterra
Жыл бұрын
@@bkelly625 How much of that is because their franchises are actively tanking?
@paytonthompson8659
Жыл бұрын
@@HJ17GAMING which even then is crazy because Jalen is 21 and he’s putting up 22ppg?
@henrimarjoan7876
Жыл бұрын
Cunningham has the vision and he makes his teammates better. Green has tunnel vision and often misses the open guy and tries some diffucult shot instead. He is very skilled tho.
@cambob42069
Жыл бұрын
Cade is better
Sabonis 100% deserves to be at 20. He’s been in top 6 mvp conversations the whole season
@drop3
Жыл бұрын
Cause of stats hed be a 3rd option on a contender
@fredclark9366
Жыл бұрын
@@drop3 cause of stats? How is 20 13 and 7 a third option on a contender?
@drop3
Жыл бұрын
@@fredclark9366 Weve seen teams with him as a second option first oladipo and now with fox he needs another great player to contend cause atm 1st round exit and 2nd round ceiling.
@ryan183
Жыл бұрын
@@drop3 you can’t really say “on a contender” when kings are a top 3 seed lock
@drop3
Жыл бұрын
@@ryan183 I dont care about seed old pacers teams with sabonis had nearly 50 wins multiple times and a lot of teams load manage and struggle with injuries in the west. Until sabonis shows he can be a #2 on a contender (which is a Conference finals team) then he's a #3.
I think you're underating Nic Batum, does a lot defensively that doesn't show up on the stat sheet
@TripleM24
Жыл бұрын
especially the game he just had yesterday vs the Bulls.
@psi_klaw1355
Жыл бұрын
@@TripleM24 I couldn't watch the game because of League Pass games but I heard he was doing Nic Batum things per usual.
@TripleM24
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@@psi_klaw1355Yeah. He went absolutely off lol
No Kyle Anderson is criminal. I'm a wolves fan but I'd say he's been our 2nd best player all year behind Ant
@juno7710
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naz reid
@DeadRebounds
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what the hell number 1 ant number 2 kat number 3 gobert number 4 conley number 5 naz THEN kyle
@killerpotatofish4330
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadRebounds in terms of impact on winning this year, kat was injured, rudy had the worst season of his career and was injured, we didnt have conley till mid point, and naz was not better than kyle anderson plus he got injured
@killerpotatofish4330
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@@DeadRebounds Also, Jaden Mcdaniels would be 3rd no cap
@DeadRebounds
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@@killerpotatofish4330 ok so for the 2022-23 season kyle anderson was there number 3 ok fine lol sure
Horford’s contributions to the Celtics are critical to our championship aspirations hes a plus defender has a +211 +/- and is shooting 45% from three on 5 attempts a night also an outstanding locker room guy and very smart and has 10 games with 3+ blocks very underrated rim protector
@DeadRebounds
Жыл бұрын
"outstanding locker room guy" 1 how the f do you know that 2 does that rank him higher? NO
Kelle deserves to be atleast in the high 80s but im just glad he’s getting the recognition he deserves , idont think i saw wendell ether
Lavine not even being top 50 is a crime
If Jordan Poole didn’t just blow the game against the Timberwolves two nights ago I would feel more inclined to argue for him to be higher than in his position
Freddy should not be at 64😂 Maybe at the start of the season but so far this month he has been playing at an all star level, averaging like 28 pts and 7 ast
@WheresWaldo05
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40% field goal this season. Inefficient chucker.
@aspect3896
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@@WheresWaldo05 this month jumped to 43.3 which is about the average for a shooting guard🤷🏼♂️
@WheresWaldo05
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@@aspect3896 Nope. League average fg % is 47-48% every year.
@vaporterra
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@@WheresWaldo05 You realize he said average percentage for shooting guard? League average position less is inflated by bigs with put backs and layups
@grapeape1965
Жыл бұрын
On a shitty massively underperforming team FOR THE SEASON. Imagine making these lists based off of tiny samples like you’re trying to use when they have full careers and even full seasons to use 😂😂😂
Franz Wagner is so underrated
Nasty list
Kawhi dropping 30 on 50 50 90 since January and playing elite defense, feels like he's gotta be higher
@grapeape1965
Жыл бұрын
Since January like a season is just whatever games Kawhi plays
I am not being facetious. I am asking this genuinely out of my heart. How are Wiggins and Aaron Gordan better than Zach Lavine? Zach has improved on Defense and it is not so abysmal that those other two players outweigh what he can do offensively.
@harrisonjones3548
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I’d agree Hess better than Gordon but not Wiggins
Herro is mad underrated
Ja is (and has been) one of the most overrated players in the NBA for going on two seasons now, seeing him at 15 felt like he is exactly where he should be
The list said KCP was on the pistons lol
I'm a twolves fan but Jalen Brunson is my favourite player I'm feeling very conflicted right now
I like Lopez but you don’t watch enough Cavs if your taking him over Mobley or Allen
no keegan murray is kinda crazy, markelle is too low as well
matt you gotta watch okc. Dort isnt a top 25 defender in the league and hes horrible offesively. likable guy but not amazing. Also Caruso is the best guard defender in the league and definitely should be higher.
@duffal0
Жыл бұрын
Dort is definitely overrated. He is a top 25 defender, but he is just so awful offensively. As an OKC fan, Shai and JDub are underrated, Dort is overrated.
@randle6666
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@@duffal0 jjj, gobert, dray, j.allen, mobley, embiid, giannis, lopez, butler, bam, caruso, holiday, smart, horford, mcdaniels, og, ad, vanderbilt, thybulle, herb, dyson, nance, pascal, poeltl, dsj, turner. theres 25 and you could argue like 15 more
They have KCP on the Pistons LMAO!
Sorry to say.. if you are questioning if Kessler is better then Gobert, then you read in to blocks like you do with overall rating in 2k and box scores, which is clearly WAY too much. Gobert doesn't get blocks because many times, many players will dribble out and not bother to shoot when Gobert is in the paint. Minnesota has the 10th rated defense mainly because of Gobert and McDaniels, and without Gobert, they would not have been able to keep afloat when KAT missed 52 games. Kessler, who you constantly put on a pedestal? He anchors the 24th rated defense in the league that actually gets less overall blocks than the Wolves... and.. also happens to be LAST in a league in steals. Many of these takes simply require more research than reading box scores. Also, funny enough, DLo at 124 was traded for Conley at 80, NAW and 3 second round picks.. you still think that was a bad trade too? Even though there was a slight with Gobert at 50, you recognized KAT being low at 35 and were good with Ant at 27... That means Wolves have 27/35/50/80/87 ranked players in starting 5 when healthy... maybe they are better then you give them credit for?
it’s crazy russ isn’t on here
how are you low on brooks but high on dort
@duffal0
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s because Brooks was rated so far ahead of Dort when they’re basically the exact same player
“Yeah Giannis is good but idk I might prefer Lu Dort’s, maybe because of the defense”
How is walker kessler not roty
@grapeape1965
Жыл бұрын
Lmao not even close wtf are you smoking
@Teachingcasuals
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@@grapeape1965 stats wise Ik Paolo averaged 10 more points but Kessler does average 2.5 blocks so I think it’s close
@duffal0
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@@Teachingcasuals 1. JDub 2. Paolo 3. Kessler
Kawhi is too high for someone injured for so long I say he should only be top 20. Also Booker is a little high for me. I would probably put Booker in 15 and move all below him up 1. Decent list but subjective in what they consider.
Jaylen brown outside the top 20 is comical
Pcp dude powell dude batum dude better then westbrook the disrespect man
Okay but who is taking Al Horford 50 spots over Dlo
This man really be hating on Luka
where was jimmy buckets? did i miss him?
@Sros1
Жыл бұрын
#17
12:40 if we’re going off impact to win shares, JA shouldn’t even be top 15. The Grizzlies do an amazing job playing without him. I’m not saying he’s a bad player I’m just saying they know how to win without him
@keshawnmoore2538
Жыл бұрын
If your saying that then your saying tyus Jones should be top 10 in the league because of his impact to win shares? Stop using the “They play good without Ja thing” to hurt his stock
@DeadRebounds
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you could say the same thing about the 76ers and Embiid not just that they won game 1 against the celtics there like a .700 team without Embiid this season thats insane
Don better than Book
Robert Williams and Chris Paul are RIDICULOUSLY high. Maybe The Ringer's Boston bias is showing bc I think Smart is too high as well. And give me Fox over at least 5-6 guys above him
good reaction i agree with most of what you said but you're being too hard on your knicks
Jaylen Brown is a member of one of the highest scoring duos in NBA history and can drop 40 any given night. Top that with his athletic defense and seldom injuries, there is no world that I’d rather have Zion than Brown.
The disrespect to embiid is crazy he's 1
Wheres collin sexton
Why no ja Morant.
The disrespect to embiid and the meat riding to jokic is crazy… sixers were all disrespected outside of harden and no melton is kinda crazy
@twistedtide
Жыл бұрын
Embiid is the most overrated guy in the league lmao, needs 22 shots and 13 free throws a game to score, can't pass, overrated as FUCK defender. If you wanna say Jokic is overrated, sure, idgaf, but Embiid is even more overrated lmao.
@ivandzaja6251
Жыл бұрын
They had 4 players there if I remember correctly,how is that being disrespected?,and Embiid is maybe a bit low but he's 5 at best,Curry,KD,Giannis,Jokic for sure ahead,Doncic is Embiids equal in my opinion and Tatum just behind them,so 7 is just a bit low in my opinion
Jordan Poole way too low he's in my top 100 for sure remember he was averaging over 25 something per game at one point.
@WheresWaldo05
Жыл бұрын
After game 1 of the season?
@tylersworld3583
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@@WheresWaldo05 he was probably their best player when Curry was first hurt. Averaging over 25 a game at least one point in the season while being your best player during that timespan should put him in the top 100, you could even argue he's top 75 when Curry's not playing.
@WheresWaldo05
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@@tylersworld3583 I am not a Warriors fan. And he is not consistent. Not a good defender either.
@tylersworld3583
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@@WheresWaldo05 I'm not either but Curry is my all time favorite player, and they got some other fun guys on this team maybe I'm just basing Poole on popularity I don't know but either way he at least cracks the top 90 to 100 in my book.
@WheresWaldo05
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@@tylersworld3583 All i know is i would already take Jalen Williams over him. I'm not a Jordan Poole fan at all. I like guys like Bane, Herro, Bojan Bogdonavich, Vassell, Maxey, Clarkson over him as well. Toss up between Anfernee Simons and Poole. Will take Poole over Barrett and Green though.
Giannis and Embiid are #1 and #2.
Luka not top 3 player 🤷🏽♂️
@jacobway468
Жыл бұрын
Name 3 better
@alexandreavelar9384
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobway468 Giannis, Jokic and Curry
@DeadRebounds
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agreed
@jacobway468
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@@alexandreavelar9384 curry? Lol
embiid at 6???
Jordan poole should be at least 80
@mikosdif
Жыл бұрын
I mean horford over poole?
JG4 top 50
Hell nah, there ain’t 53 better players than Zach LaVine in the league
the disrespect to jaylen brown is crazy man. he really is one of the most under appreciated players of this generation
@Mdksupreme1
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the disrespect to kyrie is really what's crazy, putting haliburton, trae, and bam over him is madness
The person who made this list way overvalues efficiency and defence. I’m all for valuable role players but are we seriously saying Grant Williams is a better basketball player than Jalen Green🤦♂️
I had to dislike once you said lopez could be over gobert Imo, Gobert is a top 40-top 35 player in the league and as a warriors fan, Gobert is easily better than Klay and Dray
I do not like Jordan Poole but how is he lower then players like Al horford like he should be top 75 at least
Jaylen should 100% be over Sabonis and Zion. I’d take him over PG right now too. Sabonis should also be over Zion too. This list is supposed to be right now and right now Zion should be over these players. Also, Embid needs to be in the top 5.
@nhc7772
Жыл бұрын
Zion should NOT***
Reaves should be on here
KD is 2nd.. Ayton needs to be top 50
dame does not have a good supporting cast at all one of the worst in the nba. mid role players and grant/anfernee have been pretty inconsistent
DLo 124 😮
@WheresWaldo05
Жыл бұрын
Be gone from Minnesota Dslow trash! ✌️🤏👋
I definitely can’t name 29 players who are better than Jaylen Brown
@number2pensyl557
Жыл бұрын
nahhh you clickbaiting mf lmfao. That’s hilarious
@WheresWaldo05
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That is cause you are casual. And it's 20 not 29. He was ranked at 21.
@number2pensyl557
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@@WheresWaldo05 I know what I said. I can absolutely name 20 players better than Brown, but the thumbnail clickbait got me good suggesting he was at #30
Trae Young that high is just wrong
giddey? kuzma?
@duffal0
Жыл бұрын
Giddey was at 75, but I think he should probably be 60-70
I think Matt is really underrating Vando's defense. Probably the most versatile defender in the league.
@grapeape1965
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Not even close to the most versatile. Come on smh
@SBGaming3
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@@grapeape1965 name 5 guys more versatile on defense than Vando
@grapeape1965
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@@SBGaming3 you literally said probably the most. That would be number one. Mcdaniels easily as a choice just as not a star player one, to make this easy. bam draymond giannis all while doing a ton more all over the floor all game long than vando ever has to for even a one minute stretch. Bridges and OG all day while again doing more on top of that. There’s 6 easy ones to put that to rest even tho your expanded made up metric of naming 5 has absolutely nothing to do with your claim of him being the top number 1. It simply takes one to disprove that so take your pick.
@SBGaming3
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@@grapeape1965 you said he isn’t close. Jaden can guard 1-3 no problem, but isn’t big enough to guard posts like Vando can. Great weak side defender though. Bam can switch onto guards from time to time but he isn’t matching up with them. The most he’s guarded a non-big this year is 38 total possessions in which he gave up 17 points and 10 assists to the player. Dray is too much of a free safety on defense now, and rarely guards guards now. Giannis mostly only guards forwards (he can guard guards, but has teammates that do it better than him so he doesn’t) Mikal most guards guards and SFs, he’s only 6’6” and not a big guy so he isn’t amazing against bigger players. He also doesn’t compete quite as much on D now that he is the offensive focal point. All of the Raptors’ wings could compete with Vando in this (specifically Barnes even more so than OG), but Vando has a bigger mix of guards, forwards, and centers than anybody in the league. But we are talking about the gap in ability to guard different positions. Vando doesn’t have much fall off when it comes to guarding guards vs. centers vs. forwards.
@grapeape1965
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@@SBGaming3 I then I literally listed a gang of them off the top of my head from endless hours of game tape for the eye test and confirmed them with stats. Your opinions above on each player and vando on top of that are absolute bullshit man lol. You ate wrong on every single thing you said above. I like vando but on top of all of those players being more versatile for careers, for this entire season, vando took off 2/3 of this whole damn season, his trade value was higher last summer than it was at the trade deadline bc he was no longer playing how he had been in Minnesota. I mean we will see when all defense teams get here, they don’t leave off the most versatile defender that’s for god damn sure. McDaniels is levels above vando right now in overall defense and absolutely in versatility, and against better players ALL SEASON LONG. ALL THE GAMES. Not a better little 3 week run at the end of the season lmao. Every player I listed clears vando. As of January 31st, vando wasn’t even top 11 in defensive versatility rating! You don’t not even make the top 10 for 50 games and somehow jump to the top of the league not being the best ever during the season much so you sure don’t do it for being maybe top 15 for a month of the season lmao
Jokic MVP!!!
Bro this list is terrible how tf is batum over poole, d-low, and joval😭😂😭
Luka being above Embiid invalidates this garbage list. Markell Fultz and Kyle Anderson 100% both deserve to be on the list.
@DeadRebounds
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this list is really solid not perfect but solid you try to make a bet top 125 yeah bet if this list is garbage your list would be another level
@suckmygooglies99
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@@DeadRebounds I would have a great list. The best some might say. It’s all opinions at the end of the day, but the bottom line is that players like Luka who can’t even lead their team to the playoffs shouldn’t be ranked so high.
@DeadRebounds
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@@suckmygooglies99fine so make me a top 125 im seriously not because i wanna roast it i just genuinely want to see
@suckmygooglies99
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@@DeadRebounds Nba rankings 1. Jokic 2. Giannis 3. Embiid 4. Steph 5. Tatum 6. Luka 7. Lebron 8. Butler 9. AD 10. Booker 11. Lillard 12. Shai 13. KD 14. Mitchell 15. Morant 16. Fox 17. Kawhi 18. JJJ 19. Bam 20. Sabonis 21. Murray 22. Harden 23. Young 24. Towns 25. Kyrie 26. Haliburton 27. Brunson 28. Edwards 29. Randle 30. Holiday 31. Brown 32. Levine 33. Lopez 34. Garland 35. Mobley 36. Siakam 37. Derozan 38. Markkanen 39. Bridges 40. Ingram 41. Gordon 42. Porzingis 43. Beal 44. George 45. Lamelo 46. Banchero 47. McCollum 48. Klay 49. Bane 50. Gobert
@suckmygooglies99
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadRebounds I think I might have underrated Mobley and Brown. Overrated harden and Gobert…It’s tough so much talent in the league.
jaylen brown is 100% without a doubt a top 15 player. a hyper efficient 27 ppg scorer who plays incredible defense. how is he not above sabonis and zion
currys way too high.. if we’re talking this szn dames ahead of him easily and embiid outa the top 5 is wilddd
Wow. This list is such a joke. Also i would not have Dort on this list. The constant mentioning of him is very disturbing.
Is it crazy to say that Devin Booker has actually been better than Jayson Tatum this year?
@SBGaming3
Жыл бұрын
If you take away the 5 really bad games Booker had while playing injured, he's averaging the same PPG as Tatum on much better efficiency while also being a better playmaker and team defender. Like yes, Tatum is a better 1 on 1 defender and a better rebounder, but he really hasn't been better than Booker when he is healthy.
@jacobway468
Жыл бұрын
@@SBGaming3Tatum is way way way better defender
@SBGaming3
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@@jacobway468 one on one, I’d be inclined to agree, but when it comes to off-ball play, knowing where to be, and rotations, Booker is arguably better. Stop living in 2018 with these “Booker can’t play defense” narratives.
@TripleM24
Жыл бұрын
Devin is not better than SGA let alone Tatum.
@SBGaming3
Жыл бұрын
@@TripleM24 easily better than SGA
I’m getting enough of people underrating d’lo!
PG no lower than 15
WOST TOP 100+ LIST I'VE EVER SEEN
@mannygracioppo7868
Жыл бұрын
WORST
Jalen Williams is offensively low
Shai over Booker
Menlo and Poole to low
@jacobway468
Жыл бұрын
How high should they be
Kawhi should be closer to 20 than in the top 10. Kinda crazy putting a guy who didn't make the All Star game and probably won't make All NBA as a top 10 player in the NBA.
Harden over jimmy is so wierdd broo stop riding harden. Hes a stat padder but people forget that exist ig. Butler has been the clutchest player all year and they beat philly in the playoffs. Stop cappin literally would harden carry the heat like this?
@aidanstanley4606
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Carrying them to a 7th seed? Like what💀
@aidanstanley4606
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And there is no such thing as stat padding on a winning basketball team maybe on a losing team but that’s more empty stats tf is he stat padding his 11 assist per game like you can’t stat pad assist no one holds the ball until the shot clocks up and then passes the ball so someone else will shoot it💀
@Teachingcasuals
Жыл бұрын
@@aidanstanley4606 yes there is when u have a guy that leads the league in scoring. And the heat were a 1 seed last year. You don’t know ball. Jimmy has had like 10-20 games of winning it all in the 4th by himself including 1 against Philly and harden and harden has had 0 games like that this year
@aidanstanley4606
Жыл бұрын
@@Teachingcasuals hardens not the number 1 that’s not his role to carry the team to wins they play different styles you ever think embiid leads the league in scoring bc he has one of the passers in the league on his team? I’m not even saying harden is better your point just isnt the right one to make
@Teachingcasuals
Жыл бұрын
@@aidanstanley4606 u see how butler is better than harden now
Embiid being lower than he should be isn't a surprise. Ringer is a Boston publication.
Ingram too low Morant too low
LaMelo Ball is not top 100
Luka way 2 high mad overrated