Reacting to Iconic British TV Moments

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Here's me reacting to iconic British TV moments! I had too much fun doing this 😂 I've reacted to a couple of other videos too but didn't want to include them in this one because it would have been way too long 😅 Shall I post it as a part 2? Let me know!
Please feel free to leave suggestions in the comments of what you would like to see next :)
Lots of love,
Vanessa 🌹
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My name is Vanessa. I live in London, England.
I mainly upload my videos about life and culture in the UK, learning English, and things that interest me. Feel free to subscribe to my channel 🥰
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  • @tommoncrieff1154
    @tommoncrieff11543 жыл бұрын

    The ‘David’ thing is this: It’s Celebrity Big Brother. David Guest felt very ill and went to bed. The others were very worried about him. Meanwhile, in the real world outside, David Bowie died of cancer. His ex-wife, and mother of his son, Angie Bowie, was a housemate in the house, so the producers called her into the Diary Room and, rightly, informed her. Angie then told another housemate ‘David has died’. She mistook which David she was talking about. Sadly, David Guest did die shortly after this, he looked dreadful on the show and it was easy for the other housemates to believe he had passed away. It made for great TV, another train wreck moment.

  • @bunnyproductions3482

    @bunnyproductions3482

    3 жыл бұрын

    I watch that clip on a regular basis😂

  • @yourexhusband2338

    @yourexhusband2338

    3 жыл бұрын

    best season of any tv show ever made 😭

  • @danix2118

    @danix2118

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved Tiffany😂 she made that season😂😂😂

  • @sussex33
    @sussex333 жыл бұрын

    The David who died is the famous David Bowie. The woman is his ex-wife and this was Celebrity Big Brother. The production team called her into the diary room to give her the news.

  • @alsg4

    @alsg4

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was David Guest who had died.

  • @WiseDelilah

    @WiseDelilah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alsg4 He did actually die that same year I think.

  • @racheltaylor6578

    @racheltaylor6578

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WiseDelilah She predicted the future.

  • @WiseDelilah

    @WiseDelilah

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Emily Wow, I know it wasn't long after, but didn't know it was that short.

  • @lesart3446
    @lesart34463 жыл бұрын

    Fanny means something different in the UK.

  • @jonathanm877

    @jonathanm877

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thought he said "fanny smeller"😕😃

  • @Trev359

    @Trev359

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jonathanm877 Friend of Willy Wakker.

  • @Ubique2927

    @Ubique2927

    3 жыл бұрын

    Front bottom.

  • @jonjohnson2844
    @jonjohnson28443 жыл бұрын

    I'm also a huge fan of the dictionary, the thesaurus is pretty cool too.

  • @Beybon

    @Beybon

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you like the dictionary wait until they release dictionary 2 electric boogaloo

  • @Rob_Infinity3
    @Rob_Infinity33 жыл бұрын

    2:30 - Katie Hopkins: "i dont like geographical names." One of her children is called India. 😂 By the way, you've not even scratched the surface when it comes to Katie Hopkins. Google her at your own risk.

  • @geraldmcmullon2465

    @geraldmcmullon2465

    3 жыл бұрын

    Taking an instant dislike to Katie Hopkins is more than enough of a surface to scratch.

  • @Rob_Infinity3

    @Rob_Infinity3

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's a goddess? Jeez, lay off the drugs! 😂 And if being against racism, homophobia, transphobia and bigotry in general makes me a lefty or a snowflake. Then so be it.

  • @charlieminaj2

    @charlieminaj2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Luke Mills they are the same as Karen’s ahahahahahahahahah😂😭😂

  • @indiemadison6443

    @indiemadison6443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not @ my name being India🤧

  • @monkeytennis8861

    @monkeytennis8861

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Luke Mills Anyone with a brain in their nut should rightly despise her. I guess we now know about your cognitive functioning.

  • @nathanmiller9545
    @nathanmiller95453 жыл бұрын

    The David who died was David Bowie her ex husband

  • @sillyblocks
    @sillyblocks3 жыл бұрын

    The fact that Gemma Collins is in your thumbnail says it all about British TV hahah - I love her 🤣

  • @andrewgill2561

    @andrewgill2561

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really? IMO Gemma Collins is a disgusting filthy trollop, this is nothing personal attack aimed at you but Collins has no morals, decorum, style or class she is also very bad mannered, if she was my daughter I would me disappointed and ashamed.

  • @Andy_U
    @Andy_U3 жыл бұрын

    Hiya. The Oxford English Dictionary had defined Essex Girl as "a type of young woman...found in and around Essex...characterised as unintelligent, promiscuous and materialistic." Stay safe. All the best to you.

  • @biatsoho1332

    @biatsoho1332

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow your not kidding. I looked it up.

  • @Silentaudits7

    @Silentaudits7

    3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot, wearing white high heels , pumps in the US . Update urban dictionary. An Essex girl is a derogatory name for a woman that lives in or near Essex, often characterised as a dumb blonde . To be seen in the confines of Dag'nam, Wolfemsto, Laghton, Basildon, etc. Often with High Street shop names such as .. Nell Bar, Cutie Can Cure Ya , Locks Like A Lush, Toe Suk Sue She Asian Snack Bar, Won Fuk Diner , and more.

  • @danosverige

    @danosverige

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Silentaudits7 - Often to be found having sex at bus stops while continuing to eat their chips & gravy!

  • @jules.8443
    @jules.84433 жыл бұрын

    Gino D'Acampo saying that was hilarious. "If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike."

  • @mcfcguvnors
    @mcfcguvnors3 жыл бұрын

    Phillip schofield & holly should just have a comedy show of their own

  • @stevenmacdonald9619
    @stevenmacdonald96193 жыл бұрын

    Her ex husband that died was David Bowie 🤦‍♂️

  • @randomnstoned966
    @randomnstoned9663 жыл бұрын

    Gemma Collins falling over is absolute gold 😂

  • @breyermcjoey
    @breyermcjoey3 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone in England is like this, I promise 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jules.8443
    @jules.84433 жыл бұрын

    David Gest was a housemate & was sick in bed. The woman was referring to David Bowie. She had just found out David Bowie had died. So when she went in there saying David is dead, they thought she meant David Gest. She forgot David was also the name of a house mate, so didn't say David Bowie, just David. (It was celebrity Big Brother aired in 2016.)

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac3 жыл бұрын

    Gemma Collins has tripped over more dictionaries than I've had hot dinners

  • @larabellis5934
    @larabellis59343 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video! Brightened up my day! Would love to see Part2 XX

  • @bushchat28d
    @bushchat28d3 жыл бұрын

    Can't believe that these are 'iconic' moments at all - I was thinking of scenes from sit-coms that

  • @niamhduffy2012
    @niamhduffy20123 жыл бұрын

    The couple you love are Holly and Philip from this morning, a daytime morning show. Every now and again they loose it and it makes for some amazing TV.

  • @gabbermensch
    @gabbermensch3 жыл бұрын

    Holly there keeping up a great British tradition - never let work get in the way of going out and getting totally hammered

  • @terrywright7470

    @terrywright7470

    3 ай бұрын

    You must be a HUGE Frankie Laine fan.....he also had Jealousy at the number one spot in the 1950s

  • @qwizzle78
    @qwizzle783 жыл бұрын

    There's so many good morning clips with Philip and Holly. Love the reactions

  • @stevebolton4065
    @stevebolton40653 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love your videos keep up the good work Vanessa.

  • @numbersix8336
    @numbersix83363 жыл бұрын

    Holding back the smile and laugh was sooo British 😊😊

  • @iancromack4791
    @iancromack47913 жыл бұрын

    Love your vids

  • @danosverige
    @danosverige3 жыл бұрын

    To be honest, I find more "iconic British tv moments" in episodes of Trumpton than this lot! Then again, I grew up in the 'golden era' of British TV, lol.

  • @adz_b
    @adz_b3 жыл бұрын

    If my Grandmother had wheels...the best line ever 🤣

  • @jules.8443
    @jules.84433 жыл бұрын

    The 3 people on the sofa & the guy announcing the winner on that program is called Come Dine With Me. For 4 nights each of them hosts at their own home. They cook a meal for everyone & at the end of the night, the 3 guests judge the host for the evening. I never saw that episode, but it looks like she ruined the night he was hosting & wasn't even bothered. So he was upset that she won.

  • @crowndeckmagic
    @crowndeckmagic3 жыл бұрын

    Omg I just found you but you’re so entertaining to watch and you have the most amazing bone structure I’ve ever seen!!!

  • @charlotteaimee2004
    @charlotteaimee20043 жыл бұрын

    she should react to best " I'm a celebrity get me out of here" moments

  • @elisagibbs6141

    @elisagibbs6141

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would e hilarious

  • @123456twat
    @123456twat3 жыл бұрын

    ive never seen anyone with a better smile than you! for real you have such a unique and pretty look! , awesome reaction would love to see more.✌

  • @1mbpdf33
    @1mbpdf333 жыл бұрын

    In terms of personality, Gemma Collins is TV's bin-bag.

  • @jeeves_uk
    @jeeves_uk3 жыл бұрын

    Grace of a reversing dump truck with no wheels on 😂

  • @harryb7552
    @harryb75523 жыл бұрын

    The dictionary is class to be fair, and that’s coming from an honest Thesaurus fan

  • @idontknow950
    @idontknow9503 жыл бұрын

    Love the reaction!

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique29273 жыл бұрын

    Is Dellboy falling through the open bar flap in this? Is it. Is it??!! I can barely wait to see.

  • @johngaskell1467
    @johngaskell14673 жыл бұрын

    When she fell over I got stage fright...................I was afraid the stage would collapse .

  • @ACook94
    @ACook943 жыл бұрын

    “Iconic” i think they just mean memed TV moments 😂

  • @davidholden2658
    @davidholden26583 жыл бұрын

    The woman complaining about people's names is Katie Hopkins who has made a career out of having some horrible controversial views. If you look at the wikipedia article about her you can see the type of person she is.

  • @shannonTHEcannon_
    @shannonTHEcannon_2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe for a next video you should react to a compilation of British PSAs

  • @intello8953
    @intello89533 жыл бұрын

    We literally grew up watching Holly Willoughby and Phillip Schofield in This Morning haha

  • @martinappleby7962
    @martinappleby79623 жыл бұрын

    have a look at only fools and horses, Del Boy falls Through the Bar. Classic.

  • @ClassicRiki
    @ClassicRiki2 жыл бұрын

    That’s actually an extremely accurate accent. I don’t know which one is real anymore 😂

  • @christopherlawlor2780
    @christopherlawlor27803 жыл бұрын

    The woman at the start of number 2 sounds like the crab from the little mermaid

  • @susanwhitfield4068
    @susanwhitfield40683 жыл бұрын

    Striving hard,honestly she sits on her rear end all day,being a Princess.

  • @michaelstamper5875
    @michaelstamper58753 жыл бұрын

    Iconish Brittic TV moments with our favourite Austrian English person, who combines earmuffs with earrings to create micro - castanets 😁😁❤

  • @michaelstamper5875

    @michaelstamper5875

    3 жыл бұрын

    Edit: autocorrect seems to think earbuds are spelled earmuffs, for some reason.

  • @skybinder1.292
    @skybinder1.2923 жыл бұрын

    Hi Vanessa. I’ve just found your KZread channel, I’m enjoying your videos well done. You say you are from Austria but you sound nothing like arnold schwarzenegger. ☺️ Thank you for making my days a brighter. 😘

  • @sassquatch72apeape10
    @sassquatch72apeape103 жыл бұрын

    Dictionary? Sure, okay on a school night, but come the weekend? I'm bang on the Encyclopedia Britannica!! Off my mammaries. During the working week? I'll have sneaky Wikipedia at lunch time...a quick Websters on the way home. Part of our British words culture. I remember one Canadian lady asking me on the train about a guy doing a crossword at 06.30.....I said...."Look love, the poor Sods on a come down. He sweating it out before he starts his shift." The look on her face.......

  • @revbenf6870
    @revbenf68703 жыл бұрын

    You say tomato, I say tomaaato haha...

  • @lottiewright6674
    @lottiewright66743 жыл бұрын

    Throughout that video I couldn’t tell if she was British, American or Australian I heard all those accents 🤣

  • @danosverige

    @danosverige

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's Austrian! 🤣 😂

  • @terrywright7470

    @terrywright7470

    3 ай бұрын

    Is Vanessa really Austrian? I assumed that she was an American living here. See! Ya learn something every day.

  • @nodroGnotlrahC
    @nodroGnotlrahC3 жыл бұрын

    @VanessaTalks - when I think of iconic British TV moments I think of something very different to this. In my mind, Iconic means (As Merriam-Webster defines it) "widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence". I know that the video I am suggesting is very different to your usual, light-hearted stuff, but this news report from 1984 is one that nobody who saw it can ever forget. It broke the nation's heart. kzread.info/dash/bejne/io2DzMFvf7zbesY.html

  • @mazdamps
    @mazdamps3 жыл бұрын

    Not your usual standard Vanessa! lol Have to say that none of this can really be described as iconic, and in fact not anything that I watch! There is shed loads of stuff, that I'm sure your Brit friends would suggest. Anyway, it's always good to see your smile, which brightens my day....

  • @markhemzy8433
    @markhemzy84333 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry but apart from Bradley Walsh losing it on the Chase, I wouldn't class any of these TV clips as iconic or even memorable. Never mind though, it was worth it for that one clip. Keep up the good work with the videos.

  • @kyla7511

    @kyla7511

    3 жыл бұрын

    so youre saying ginos grandmother line isnt iconic?

  • @markhemzy8433

    @markhemzy8433

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kyla7511 Yeah, I'll give you that one. Watching Phil and Holly lose the plot (again) is always worth watching. I'd just hate to think that so many of those other clips were seen as representative of British TV.

  • @user-lo7es6gw1x
    @user-lo7es6gw1x3 жыл бұрын

    the chase outtakes 2020 omg..

  • @TripleSfan_xinyu
    @TripleSfan_xinyu3 жыл бұрын

    you should react to gemma collins

  • @JayKay0245
    @JayKay02453 жыл бұрын

    Great video, watch some ‘Good Morning’ funniest moments!!

  • @Tom-uv7ry

    @Tom-uv7ry

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's pathetic they're not iconic.moments in the slightest they're just random nonsense of tv if you think there's are iconic moments then you're a div

  • @Liyalibrary
    @Liyalibrary3 жыл бұрын

    I lqughed so hard at your reaction my laptop fell off my bed and my screen cracked . I wish this was a non real story but it's true so moral of the day only watch funny stuff like this on my phone

  • @williebauld1007
    @williebauld10073 жыл бұрын

    Anything with Gemma Collins in it can never be classed as iconic............. React to Fawlty Towers or Poridge, both truly iconic British sitcoms

  • @nathanmcgarry1482
    @nathanmcgarry14823 жыл бұрын

    Omg please watch funny videos of this morning

  • @amouellsgeovani7452
    @amouellsgeovani74523 жыл бұрын

    You should react to Katie hopkins compilation

  • @ScouseCKDfighter
    @ScouseCKDfighter3 жыл бұрын

    You need to watch funniest This Morning clips

  • @RyanLMcConnell
    @RyanLMcConnell3 жыл бұрын

    You should defo do this again😅

  • @racheltaylor6578
    @racheltaylor65783 жыл бұрын

    Bill Bailey winning Strictly Come Dancing because everyone thought he would be crap.and he was brilliant.Paul Burrell doing a Bush tucker trial on I’m a Celebrity and behaving like a big girls blouse.

  • @chelseacorbett694
    @chelseacorbett6943 жыл бұрын

    i love that iconish we should so make this a thing

  • @kermitTheFrog466
    @kermitTheFrog4663 жыл бұрын

    not sure if everyone gets the "fanny chmelar" bit but let's say in the uk fanny (private parts for lady) and chmelar reads as smeller

  • @laad6452
    @laad64523 жыл бұрын

    We love our tv we have a show called gogglebox where brits watch tv of other brits watching tv 😂 very popular show aswell

  • @iain860
    @iain8603 жыл бұрын

    It's not stupidity it's Humanity.... Judge yoursel first. Although, I tried the judgement first and lost 🤣❤️

  • @idontknow950
    @idontknow9503 жыл бұрын

    You kinda look like Stacy Solomon 💜

  • @terrywright7470

    @terrywright7470

    3 ай бұрын

    You mean like Stacey Solomon WISHES she looked.

  • @matthewbishop8395
    @matthewbishop83953 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos butbi wantbto say whoever's told you these were iconic is having a laugh with you.

  • @jules.8443
    @jules.84433 жыл бұрын

    Search Phillip Schofield & Holly Willoughby. They present the program that is literally called This Morning.

  • @stevemann6082
    @stevemann60823 жыл бұрын

    i read the dictionary once, can't remember who did it though, i think it was the butler with the lead pipe in the hhm not sure.

  • @geraldmcmullon2465

    @geraldmcmullon2465

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was told I needed to read more so I started at A and someone said "Why?" and I said no I have only reached D.

  • @jules.8443
    @jules.84433 жыл бұрын

    Katie didn't say India wasn't a location. She was saying her daughters name wasn't chosen because it was a location. She's basically two faced. She's the British version of Kayleigh McEnany.

  • @terrywright7470

    @terrywright7470

    3 ай бұрын

    TWO faced??? That Hopkins woman has more faces than Big Ben (OK, I know that big ben is the name of the bell I used the term as it is used in our speech when referring to the clock tower)

  • @geosword6
    @geosword63 жыл бұрын

    Bugger me sideways. How beautiful is this human!????? Also, great content and dress sense / style.

  • @layla1385
    @layla13853 жыл бұрын

    If you ever see the whole episode, Jane deserved that talk down

  • @jfergs.3302
    @jfergs.33023 жыл бұрын

    An alarming number of false starts this episode, but we got there in the end, haha. Another good vid, eventually. Cheers.

  • @russellpetrie119
    @russellpetrie1193 жыл бұрын

    i swear them chase questions are put in to make tommy laugh

  • @karentodd88

    @karentodd88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who’s Tommy? 🤔😂

  • @russellpetrie119

    @russellpetrie119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@karentodd88 tommy walsh presenter also in doctor who

  • @karentodd88

    @karentodd88

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@russellpetrie119 You mean Bradley Walsh!! 😂

  • @russellpetrie119

    @russellpetrie119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@karentodd88 yuppers sorry

  • @simsimme1799
    @simsimme17993 жыл бұрын

    Don’t look up that lady, Katie Hopkins, you will get very angry

  • @robinGkem
    @robinGkem3 жыл бұрын

    Oh pleeeease do BlackAdder and/or Dad's Army, pretty pleeeeease

  • @hungry4grime
    @hungry4grime3 жыл бұрын

    This morning best moments reaction

  • @sourlemons4
    @sourlemons43 жыл бұрын

    i love this haha. katie hopkins well.. lets just say not many people like her

  • @susanwhitfield4068
    @susanwhitfield40683 жыл бұрын

    Just subscribed, It was David Bowie had died..sweetheart please watch Gorden, gino and fred road trip,its so funny x

  • @shelleyj89
    @shelleyj893 жыл бұрын

    Whilst I agree, there are many other words I would use to describe Katie Hopkins other than annoying 😂

  • @HelenxLouise
    @HelenxLouise3 жыл бұрын

    Please react to more Katie Hopkins. British youtubers pranked her, it is brilliant x

  • @richardturner9317
    @richardturner93173 жыл бұрын

    well I like Katie Hopkins she has an opinion and isn't afraid to voice it !

  • @nutty784
    @nutty7843 жыл бұрын

    david is dead...this was celebrity big brother.david bowies ex wife was told about his death while in the house.david guest was in the house ill in bed,shouldnt really laugh but it was perfect sitcom material.

  • @lovemetender1954
    @lovemetender19543 жыл бұрын

    You should try British steak

  • @chroniclesofanamateur
    @chroniclesofanamateur3 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see a reactor diving into 1980’s UK adventure game show Treasure Hunt. Not many shows like it these days - a relic of the pre-google era but was always incredibly popular - it ran for 9 seasons. The Pilot episode ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWmiltqzYMXYj9o.html ) was shot in Indonesia but most episodes were in and around the British Isles. A good way to learn about different parts of the UK/ world.

  • @raymonde4272
    @raymonde42723 жыл бұрын

    The guy in the striped shirt was so obnoxious, I loved Come Dine with Me, there was another episode when a host fell asleep and the guests had to cook the meal.

  • @bubo1
    @bubo13 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why but I would LOVE to see you react to the classic British TV comedy sketch "Fork Handles" by The Two Ronnies. Search for "Two Ronnies Fork Handles" on YT, its only a 6 minute sketch so not too long for a video.

  • @Andy_U

    @Andy_U

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not called Fork Handles, it's called Four Candles.

  • @bubo1

    @bubo1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Andy_U That's what I said, Fork Handles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @at7523
    @at75233 жыл бұрын

    It’s time to issue you a challenge Mrs Talks (;)) jellied eels, pie mash and liquor, pork pie, black pudding, hot scotch egg, chip butty with chip shop curry sauce, bubble and squeak AND HAGGIS........a video if you please Mrs Talks

  • @manutdlists2442
    @manutdlists24423 жыл бұрын

    IM COSTROPHOBIC DARREN

  • @Alwaysshitontheoldblueandwhite
    @Alwaysshitontheoldblueandwhite3 жыл бұрын

    Hiya. Have you been to Norwich? If not you should its a nice place:)

  • @hermandadams
    @hermandadams3 жыл бұрын

    The main british tv channels have produced absolutly nothing you could regard as iconic for two or three decades but the amount or rubish is endless

  • @Isleofskye

    @Isleofskye

    Жыл бұрын

    "Fleabag" "Killing Eve" "Line Of Duty"....

  • @sonsonwood
    @sonsonwood3 жыл бұрын

    Vanessa is so pretty I have no shame scouring the planet for an instagram

  • @denisedale4125
    @denisedale41252 жыл бұрын

    Her ex husband was David Bowie

  • @Stickiply
    @Stickiply3 жыл бұрын

    What an American thing to do lol, Iconish.

  • @ptd450
    @ptd4503 жыл бұрын

    I love you

  • @russellpetrie119
    @russellpetrie1193 жыл бұрын

    730 katie hopkins

  • @charlieminaj2
    @charlieminaj23 жыл бұрын

    you have flawless eyes teeth skin face and nose, woe 💖😍

  • @terrywright7470

    @terrywright7470

    3 ай бұрын

    I guess YOU win the prize for stating the obvious.

  • @Georgestella100
    @Georgestella1003 жыл бұрын

    If you believe that they are the most Iconic TV Moments Ever, you need to watch a lot more videos!!

  • @UTRG-UnderTheRain
    @UTRG-UnderTheRain3 жыл бұрын

    When you said that woman is really weird she's widely regarded as being horribly toxic and not well liked

  • @broadband01
    @broadband013 жыл бұрын

    poor david guest did die not long after

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