I love how specific these sample designs are getting. Pretty soon it's going to be "here's a good design for the spiral coaster if you're playing Bumbly Beach and it's a rainy Wednesday in July."

@gloweye

2 жыл бұрын

Here's the best Heartline Coaster design for any situation: *shows empty grassland*

@fredricknoe3114

2 жыл бұрын

He's Dutch when isn't a rainy Wensday?

@stargate525

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredricknoe3114 6 days of the week.

@euhm

2 жыл бұрын

@@stargate525 funny :)

@fromthegamethrone

2 жыл бұрын

Guest 218 "It was a rainy Wednesday in July..."

Ah yes, a classic Marcel Vos ride overview featuring: - Ride details, pros and cons - Stat requirements - Cheap, compact, and expensive designs - Bashing the heartline-twister coaster

@WackoMcGoose

2 жыл бұрын

Bashing the Heartline Twister is Marcel's version of saying "the oldest anarchy server in Minecraft", he has to do it at least once a video or things feel wrong.

@funnyfella8198

2 жыл бұрын

I want to see a heartline-twister only challenge

@Adszdosya

Жыл бұрын

The heartline-twister is the co-star for this show by now.

I really cracked up when you mentioned the Heartline That is like a meme of this channel right now XD

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

It's like every time the heartline gets dragged in out of nowhere for its obligatory beating and scorning, cue the "SHOT THROUGH THE HEART!" music haha.

*2:35* I was quite surprised to see how drastically the throughput drops off as you move the Entrance away from the front tile of the station: A mere _four_ tiles over, and you cut your guests per hour in _half_

@StefanVeenstra

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on train length. If the train length spans more than two tiles, you'll want to have the entrance close to halfway the train length. That way it doesn't matter if the guest chooses to sit in the front or the back, the distance and time walked to either end is equal.

@TheTdw2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@StefanVeenstra that doesn't really matter. if it's at the front of the train or the back guests will, on average, take the same amount of time to walk towards their desired seat.

@AjaxGb

2 жыл бұрын

​@@TheTdw2000 They're not recommending it be at the front or the back. They're recommending it be at the middle, which does indeed make a difference. Station at back or front: Guests will, at worst, need to walk the entire length of the train. Station at middle: Guests will, at worst, need to walk half the length of the train. The slowest guest is the delaying factor, so having the station in the middle of the train length is ideal.

@ianmoore5502

2 жыл бұрын

@@AjaxGb ur a hero

@toddkes5890

2 жыл бұрын

I think the goal is to put the Ride Entrance as close to the halfway point of the size of the train being loaded. So for a train that is 5 cars long you should put the entrance on the third tile from the start, while since the Inverted Hairpin 'train' is 1 car long you put the Ride Entrance on the 1st tile from the start. Basically: (car length + 1)/2 = location for the entrance i.e. for a length 6 train you would go with either the third or fourth tile back.

Really interesting to see some metrics between moving the entrance between the first/last station pieces, as well as playing with minimum waiting time! Some crazy differences in throughput there!

I'd like to see a ride overview of the wooden rollercoaster, just to see how much we might not know about one of the common coaster types in the game.

@klobiforpresident2254

2 жыл бұрын

He did make that one, didn't he?

@DoomieGruntVentures

2 жыл бұрын

@@klobiforpresident2254 he only showed potential useful designs, which at the time was nowhere near to the scope the overview series reaches. There are a few quirks to the coaster, too, like the number of special elements it gets in RCT2 vanilla, as well as how its intensity & excitement can both get very high on a mid size design.

@scottthewaterwarrior

2 жыл бұрын

In Rollet Coaster Tycoon 1 it also had the option for backwards trains. Still dislike how they took away ride upgrades in RCT2 in favor of different car types being completely seperate rides.

the mention of the much hated hartline twister coaster made me think that it would be funny if you completed scenarios using only this type of coaster, besides the usual shops and stalls

@RadioactiveSherbet

2 жыл бұрын

Now why would you wish such torture on Marcel Vos? :P I second this!

@SuperSkyhorse

2 жыл бұрын

@@RadioactiveSherbet it would be quite amusing to see him use only the thing he hates so much >=D

Marcel never misses an opportunity to badmouth the heartline twister XD

You say that the looping coaster is "about average" so that leads me to the question: what is the average coaster? If you take all of the coaster types and average everything about them, what does that look like?

@MechWarrior894

2 жыл бұрын

I’d say the average is one drop, one loop, a helix and a banked turn.

@MechWarrior894

2 жыл бұрын

Along with a hill at the end

Marcel, thank you. Thank you for getting me into this game. Thank you for explaining it to me. Thank you for giving me a catalogue of videos that keeps me interested in this game. Thank you for inspiring me to make my stat blocks in things I create simple enough that I could hear you reading them in my head. Thank you. You're amazing.

@ianmoore5502

2 жыл бұрын

And thank you for your amazing voice.

7:00 I believe the height difference isn't really a bug, but because of how the way the game calculates height. The level to steep drop actually reads at 1 meter lower than the level piece that it is coming off of. The game must calculate height off this piece, so using that level to steep as a drop loses a meter in height. As for the steep to level piece, that keeps the height of the lowest point, so if you use the steep to level piece as the floor, it keeps the full drop length. This is the first time I really realized that and now know that for larger drops, use the steep to level piece at the bottom.

@haphazard1342

2 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting observation. So you posit that, in the configuration where this piece is at the bottom, it counts as a continuation of the drop height. For that to make sense, then only part of the rest of the track pieces would count as "drop" so we should be able to tease this difference out through other drop configurations or by looking at the code that describes this particular track piece.

@thomassynths

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be curious what the coaster's "Altitude" graph looks like for that drop and see if it properly shows a continuous descent.

@Sipricy

2 жыл бұрын

You could argue that any bug in any game is "just the way that the game calculates X". That doesn't stop those bugs from being bugs, though.

It’s an ok coaster type in my opinion, but the way you can build designs honestly cracks me up!

Nice to see you using the camera mode to focus on a train of the ride that you're currently talking about. I always thought that that's a nice way to see how a coaster is laid out (at least compared to you the regular view).

I love this coaster. I love it as the aforementioned EIN values being high makes it make loads of cash for a low cost to build making it great for starting out in scenarios , which is why I love the wild mouse coasters too.

It's not a Marcel Vos video without a potshot at the Heartline!

I discovered you a couple days ago and binged your entire channel. I adore everything about your content especially the mathematical analysis and visual cues to show us every little detail you never miss! Excited to hear about the Hærpåīn Coaster

This coaster never left the impression of a fun one so I never bothered, even as a child. Thanks to you, now I am building it next time I see one.

I play RCT1 and I do play in Dutch, so to me the coaster names might be different, but mouse coasters are my favorite coasters to design in general, and the inverted mouse coaster is my favorite of those by a mile. I was so happy when it got introduced in the expansion packs. Great video Marcel, as usual ;)

In the context of the wild mice coasters, you could argue that sloped turns are another special feature of the Hairpin Coaster - It certainly allows for designs not possible on any other coaster type

@reillywalker195

2 жыл бұрын

The Steel Wild Mouse gets sloped turns, too, though.

@Dagothig

2 жыл бұрын

Well blimey it does get it 11 I don't know why I was under such a strong impression that it didn't. You can ignore my previous statement then xD

It's not a Marcel Vos video without him making fun of the Heartline Twister

I rode one of these at the World Carnival in Hong Kong, sometime in the 2000s. It was a thoroughly compact design, and quite a rattler. Enjoyable enough, while rough and not as much fun as the spinning mouse coaster that used similar tracks.

Coloring the special elements is a fantastic change, love it!

These videos are fascinating to watch, and I don’t even play the game. Makes me wish someone had done something this detailed for some of the newer games.

I admire your honesty for sharing the story of what you called this coaster as a kid. Most people wouldn't have mentioned it :D

These are much more exciting in the game than in real life! 😆

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but luckily the ones in real life don't take turns as quickly as the ones in game do....lots of neck-snappin'

Can I just say how much I still love this game? Yeah, sometimes the requirements on the coasters are annoying, but then building a ride to meet or exceed the requirements while still staying profitable is such an addicting challenge. I'm not going to stop playing this game until Windows can't run it anymore lol.

This is one of my favorite coasters because of, like you mentioned, the stats are really nice for the price and its compact af (compact designs are my jam). Nice to see a master cover this coaster :)

I have to say, your editing and general video quality is definitely getting better.

Decent length for a ride overview video; normally they're only a few minutes long, nice that this one was longer

Excellent job. Super comfy video. I can't quite put my finger on it but your vids are getting better, not that the old ones were bad in any way. Can't wait for the rest of the overviews

This video is the first time I understood why you’d ever have a minimum waiting time greater than zero.

7:14 Big fan of this space-efficiency; very nice!

A suggestion for a future video; going over the various breakdowns. What each one does, how they're programmed in terms of frequency, how maintenance works with said frequency, and of course a special segment on the infamous STATION BRAKES FAILURE

Well considering the model is made by French manufacturer Reverchon I say prouncing it the French way is very fitting

Keep up the great vids, I love the videos that are a bit longer. I'd love to see more long stuff, 10-20+ mins, if there was ever a topic that warranted it. You're entertaining to listen to.

Way back in the say I had one of these that I was super proud of, being that it fit in 8x10 tiles and it had excitement 8 and intensity 10

Very interesting. I love that the entrance building placement and min wait time both affected the throughput by a factor of 2!

This video made me want to build WAY more of these; they weren’t really on my radar, but they seem so competent and unique to work with. Looking forward to it.

I love this coaster. Every time I make one in a scenario, I have a good time. The guests love it and you can start a scenario off pretty well with one if you have it at the beginning.

People often state Phil Collins didnt need to go that hard for the Tarzan soundtrack. Marcel smashes this

It’s nice to see an inverted coaster type that’s actually rather good!

I've just discovered your channel, and I'm amazed!

This is one of my fav coaster types. Good work Marcel

"Mr. Vos, are you sure you want to mass produce Hairpin coasters? They don't attract as many guests as-" "Is it better than the Heartline Twister Coaster?" "Well-" "Do it."

I'm still wondering if a Heartline Twister Coaster killed Chris Sawyer's family or something for getting such an abysmal stat treatment

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

2 жыл бұрын

I heard they are very good IRL so IDK

@b-chroniumproductions3177

2 жыл бұрын

I think I read somewhere that the low stats are due to a bug

@cromanticheer

2 жыл бұрын

Ahahahaha Maybe...?

Hah! Your comparison of all these tiny coasters makes we want to make a park themed around miniature rides with tiny turns and small trains. I'd call it "Midget Mountain". Perhaps one of those "Build 6 types of coaster" scenarios.

@Samuel_Hearfield

2 жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@velvetbutterfly

2 жыл бұрын

Did ya do it?

Ahh, Marcel included a diss of the Heartline Twister coaster. My evening is now complete. :)

I haven't played RCT in over a decade. Somehow I just can't stop watch5these videos though, lol.

My favorite way to use this coaster is as a pseudo-ski lift in hilly or mountainous parks. The suspended cars just look nice to me. Question regarding wait times: is there any practical reason not to have the minimum set to zero on every coaster, and depart on full load? Assuming you can keep the queue line full enough, that is.

Another absolute banger of a video 🙏🏽🙏🏽

8:04 I know a guy who would unironically spam heart line twister coasters like this and just think they were the coolest because they generated long queue lines. It hurt my soul everytime he showed me a park. Eventually I persuaded him that long line =/= good throughput. ( This was when we were both about 12 and didn't like reading stats menus much, lol )

Love this overview! Thank you.

Great video. I have never been a fan of this coaster but should give it another shot. I would like to contribute to your guest throughput talk and add some more to it that I bet you are aware of as well and maybe you even covered before but whatev. You can maintain a steady guest flow and great efficiency by using this simple formula: (Ride time in seconds / Number of trains) = Minimum & Maximum wait time. Set them both at the same time, uncheck "Wait for full load" and you'll see that the train leaves the station usually just as another one is coming to a stop behind it, give or take a few seconds you can tweak it. So as the freshly loaded train is about to leave the station, the one that just completed the ride stops behind it just long enough to let the guests off so that it's empty and ready to load more passengers as soon as it stops at the front of the station. Hopefully that makes sense. I also have noticed that if you have a sloped queue line on the tiles right before the ride entrance, the peeps seem to take longer to get onto the ride as their speed slows down slightly on the incline. I counter that by building 3-5 tiles of flat path from the entrance before making any inclines so that way a train-load of peeps can load up as fast as possible. If I have a long queue or even short queue with long ride time I always put an entertainer in the queue and designate it to stay there. I do the same with the mechanics at exits too. Especially for big roller coasters I'll often designate a mechanic to walk back and forth at the exit, making sure that some of the station is also checked blue or the mechanic will not be able to enter the ride for inspections and repairs.

Heartline twister out here catching strays

That was a cool half loop design on the steel roller coaster near the end

Another great ride overview. While not a common coaster type, it's certainly my favorite of the wild mice types. I guess one disadvantage of this coaster is that it requires extra clearance because it's an inverted type.

@reillywalker195

2 жыл бұрын

It actually doesn't require any extra height clearance despite being an inverted type. It just doesn't get bonus excitement from airtime.

@MrAgility888

2 жыл бұрын

@@reillywalker195 That’s very interesting. Thanks for letting me know.

Great video, Marcel. Thanks

Could you do the Splash Boats? a quite special ride with quite ridiculous capacity and excitement stats 🙏

If Ein's stats go down he might not be able to help Spike track down Vincent, and the nanomachines could end up wiping humanity off the surface of Mars.

Yes, more ride info, excellent!

The heartline attracts 35 guests that will soon learn the meaning of ''regret''

maat je klinkt echt perfect als kees van der spek

At 9:32, Marcel had me tapping on my screen to pop the balloon….total impulse

Finally, another good coaster type! :D

Thanks for the video!

Thanks for your videos.

I think the stats are a little understated on that Looping Coaster with all those levitation sections ;-)

When I played Warcraft 2 I read the Elven Archers as Eleven Archers. We all do it somewhere!

Great video marcel. Could you do the mine train coaster next?

6:55 it is due that the first part of the drop isn't recording the proper height, but 1,5 meter lower in the ride height view

Lol that guest pile up at 3:53

5:31 It is possible to have worse stats. Here are the track pieces in order. Entrance station platform, straight track, exit station platform, right turn track X2, straight track X3, right turn track X2. This is bigger, but it will reduce nausea by 0.01.

This seems like a good candidate for a park value bomb...

Good shit man 👍👍👍👍

Could you do a ride overview of the Twister Coaster next?

I had a few questions I hope you can answer in future videos. 1) You mentioned that guests will not enter a queue if it's full, so shouldn't there be a way to calculate the optimal queue length based on the throughput of a ride, to ensure that even if a guest must wait the maximum possible time, they won't complain about the queue time? 2) How can you determine the optimal "minimum waiting time"? I always turn it off for maximum throughput and rarely have issues (except with the Mini Suspended Coaster, which I now know how to fix!), but I'd imagine there are other situations where it's optimal to turn on. So, how would you know the situations where you want to set a minimum waiting time, and how would you know what length it should be?

@Krasbin

2 жыл бұрын

I think minimum waiting time is mostly for safety (albeit that I sometimes use it with large multistation transport rides, to keep the trains spread out more evenly). In some cases, if there are heavier guests in the train behind one with lighter guests, the one with the heavier guests could catch up with the lighter one given a long enough ride.

@Apocalypse4162

2 жыл бұрын

I left a comment with what I'm about to copy and paste, and more, but this should answer your 2nd question :) You can maintain a steady guest flow and max efficiency by using this simple formula: (Ride time in seconds / Number of trains) = Minimum & Maximum wait time. Set them both at the same time, uncheck "Wait for full load" and you'll see that the train leaves the station usually just as another one is coming to a stop behind it, give or take a few seconds you can tweak it. So as the freshly loaded train is about to leave the station, the one that just completed the ride stops behind it just long enough to let the guests off so that it's empty and ready to load more passengers as soon as it stops at the front of the station. Hopefully that makes sense.

Can you do a ride overview on the Splash Boats? Between their capacity per boat, the number of boats, the resulting throughput and the popularity of even (or especially) the most basic pre-built design, it seems a little overpowered.

Hello everyone, I'm new here. I had RCT2 when I was younger, but a cousin of mine lost my game! He didn't repay me either, so unfair! So I have been feeling uncompleted since then because I didn't finish the scenarios. Can someone be so kind and explain to me what's the difference between RCT2 and OpenRCT2? How can I play the game? Is it free to play? Which one should I play? And why? Thanks for your help and thanks for this channel for being the spark to re-live this amazing game!

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

OpenRCT2 is a mod that brings a lot of quality of life additions to RCT2, such as playing in HD, fast forwarding, auto-placing staff, and much much more. You do need the base game, which you can buy on places like Steam. OpenRCT2 is free to download at openrct2.org/.

@Daniel_Murillo

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos Thank you very much for answering my questions :) Have a good day and weekend!

@Marcel Vos , I always asked myself whats the difference between the breaks and the block breaks.

5:45 Using a chairlift with just 3 station pieces and no track & second station will probably have lower stats, since a chairlift with

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

But it does have 0.11 intensity and 0.25 nausea.

@Rinusoide

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos Ah, never mind then :)

may I call you E. I. N. - Stein? because you are a RCT genius (especially when it comes to stats)

The "cars" look very much like a ski lift :D

I built a wild mouse for the Ghost Town scenario. Intended length schmenth

Harpain sounds better than hairpin anyways. i second younger Marcel's pronunciation of this coaster's name. I have struggled for the longest time with this - kept getting crashes, but than i decided to make smallest i could and that fixed my problems somehow.

3:16 So if you have a small wild mouse that never uses all of its cars at the same time (or even close), does it make sense (and money) to remove some of them? Is there ever any benefit for having less than the max # of trains (aside from going down to 1 to prevent crashes)?

@Trancefreak12

2 жыл бұрын

Each train on this coaster type costs an additional 8 or 9.6 per hour. Regarding crashes, both increasing and decreasing the number of trains can prevent or cause certain types of crashes. There are many ways to crash a coaster, some being quite obscure.

Heartline Twisted Coaster is always a nightmare to build that is for sure.

Could someone tell me why I have in RCT2 flags for open, test en close the coaster and in this video there are dots like a traffic light?

@velvetbutterfly

2 жыл бұрын

I think OpenRTC2 lets you change the UI to resemble RTC1

"pronounced it the French way for some reason" I ca see marcel syaing "omelette du fromage" every time he builds one of these coasters 🤣

Can you do a video on the water coaster? Probably my least built coaster type

You want to talk about missreading/mispronouncing things as a kid, in Need for Speed my favorate car was the Porcheesy nine-one-one Turbo! I have no idea how I managed to screw up Porsche that bad, but I did.

Marcel, what is the music of the background of your videos? I love this song.

These videos really get that "play more rct" vibe! So, any videos on the heartline twister anytime soon? As a young rct player i thought they were the most unique rollercoaster and it is a shame it is so bad. Cant it be fixed by the open rct people?

Is there ever any reason to not set it to waut fir full load with no min wait time and a max wait time that's cycle time/no of trains?

55 guest per ride, that is less than the launched freefall with 65. Yesterday, I beat Amity Airfield easily, by spamming 16 small lanched freefalls, after which I build many other nice rides and many shops and stalls.

It's not a Marcel Vos video unless he bashes the Heartline Twister coaster at least once 😂

Do you know if stats are calculated based on a "per-ride-type" multiplier? I've had a hard time understanding why stats can vary so much between ride types when you use the same layout.

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

Every ride type has different base stats and different multipliers for each of the EIN stats for things like G-forces, top speed, inversions, length, etc.

@NaveyBlu

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos I see, that makes sense, thank you!

Can you do a rollercoaster tier list?

whats your plan for when you run out of coasters flatrides and elements

Boink!

I wonder if that bug has anything to do with the game potentially not counting the first piece of the drop as part of the total drop height. Level-to-gentle would cause the next piece to be 1 unit below, while level-to-steep would cause the next piece to be 2 units below. That's weird.