No one builds tension like Raylan Givens.

@duedecimal6622

10 ай бұрын

yes, in the old show. not here.

@THEchiQ

6 ай бұрын

Yes. Goggins and Olyphant are fabulous together, but Boyd was Kentucky. He might be Florida, but not Michigan. This series is really different.

Clement poked the bear all season long, but this was the moment he realized Raylan was about that life.

That's all we wanted, Raylan in his hat and jean jacket bein' a badass 👏👏👏 Great acting by these guys in this scene ❤️

When the crazy guy runs into somebody that's even more crazy when it gets right down to it.

Classic Justified. "You said you wanted a shootin' match." Raylan gives that sly smirk. "Let's go." Perfection.

The biggest difference between Raylan and Clement is that most of Clement's victims were unarmed and/or didn't see Clement coming. All of Raylan's shootings involved people who were armed, and in a lot of cases, drew first. This was the first time I got the impression Clement understood that if he and Raylan squared off, Clement would be leaving feet first.

@jamesa.7604

10 ай бұрын

Love Raylan. He's got pure ice water in those Kentucky Veins. And He was Done Playing Around. That's why he's the Best Lawman on TV!

@pinkydavis6113

10 ай бұрын

Also, Clement's girlfriend doesn't look like Mike Tyson in a wig...

@lermberl

10 ай бұрын

Well, this dynamic changed a lot in 1 episode

@jackj9816

6 ай бұрын

Yeah Clermont pretty much prayed on people weaker then him or ones that never saw him coming

@mariojcollado1384

Ай бұрын

"feet first" hahahaaaa

Raylan finally being RAYLAN

I might be in the minority here...but does anyone miss Boyd Crowder?

@TheBerylknight

10 ай бұрын

I think everyone misses Boyd Crowder. You're definitely not in the minority.

@r.parker1933

10 ай бұрын

You are not. Raylan is a great character, but without a truly equal antagonist it's just not the same. Clement would be nothing but a throwaway character in the original series.

@bloke_19xx33

10 ай бұрын

@@r.parker1933 Agreed… he seems more ‘cartoonish’ to the point where I don’t take him seriously. Boyd was more creative and elusive, and always had a plan. I really hope that the Finale delivers…all of us deserve it.

@NoamMendelssohn

10 ай бұрын

Minority? Dude, I sometimes go back to watch their interaction in justified just to feel what a true antagonist protagonist relationship feels like. They were perfectly opposed, written, and acted. I want to like this, but from what I've seen so far, its a watered down justified.

@bloke_19xx33

10 ай бұрын

@@NoamMendelssohn Agreed, good point. It was amazing how their lives and fates were completely opposite, but always intertwined. After all, they ‘…dug coal together…’

I was on the edge of my seat during the scene. Just then tension.

@gpl992

9 ай бұрын

Same here!!

John Wayne-Clint Eastwood-Timothy Oliphant iconic lines dropped like ice in a glass of bourbon. "We can go outside if you want, less chance of getting shot in the balls." "Anytime you want...do it."

Finished this series last night, loved it. Even has a great soundtrack👍

Bring on Boyd Crowder. I know he escaped the Penitentiary. Boyd can bring down home action to City Pimeval. 😂

I hope there's a season 2. I love this show. i own the justified series on dvd.

This was a great sequel series!!!

Bro figured out immediately that Raylan could use his prints on the weapon to catch him but didn’t immediately realize that Raylan was actually setting him up for death. If he accepts the challenge and loses then Raylan can say it doesn’t matter he drew first, justifying the shooting. If he loses it then there are ballistic records to match the bullets in Raylan to the bullets in that gun. Nobody goes to a location with the intention of a gun fight and supplies the OTHER GUY with a gun too unless said individual is extremely confident in their own skills. Raylan was basically offering this guy suicide by cop.

This was by far the best sequence of the new show. This is a Raylan who is older and smarter. He’s come a long way since that rooftop in Miami and he owes that experience to Boyd Crowder. The younger and angrier man in him would have called Clement out a long time ago and fucked up this whole case. It was only until dealing with someone who was just as smart as he was that he learned the tact and patience he needed to pull off something like this. Raylan didn’t care if he killed clement or not he is using Clement’s impulsive and emotional nature against him. That’s something that he never would have thought to do before Boyd. I’m not suggesting that clement and Boyd are alike they are not. But what I’m saying is he learned that the law does have its limits and that his way is predictable and bullish at times. And that the way to be good at that job is to meet somewhere in the middle. This was the first time in the entire new show it became clear he’d really learned something from his time in Harlan. The last episode of justified had Raylan and Boyd in a very similar situation to his encounter with Tommy bucks but he chose to do things by the book answering the question he asked in the very first episode “if he didn’t have a gun would I have killed him anyway” it’s clear here that he has grown and understands himself a lot more now

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

counterpoint, JCP was terrible

@jesse9053

10 ай бұрын

@@kheldaryt I don’t agree I just think it was different. I also think the lack of presence of boyd really made justified. It’s not that raylan isn’t a strong character exactly but even in the books it’s literally never his book solely other than “Raylan” which was ultimately not the strongest of the 4 stories starring Raylan

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

@@jesse9053 jesse, do you disagree that this scene is great as a clip and then you watch it in the episode and it is completely, like 100% completely wasted?.... I hated the way they used the Justified Raylan character for an audience but the biggest problem was the writing was trash. So many things went nowhere or just washed out into blah. The only way this story makes any sense is if the Caroline character is the main protagonist (which is what I think in many ways they were going for) and if that's the case, cool but call it Caroline City Primeval or whatever and actually do that show. This was just blah with a few brief moments and it's a shame because many of the actors have talent and even did will but they just had nothing that made sense.

@jesse9053

9 ай бұрын

I don’t know if I agree that Caroline was the main character but I do agree that this scene in the context of the episode actually was wasted. The actual show down between these two was not even close to as satisfying as this was

Great scene

Who thinks up these incredible dialogues? "So long as she don't tell on you!!" LoL

When the Sh*t really needs to hit the fan there isn't anyone colder than Raylan Givens.

I thought Robert Quarles was as unhinged of an irredeemable sociopath as you could get on Justified, but he was at least slightly more charming than Mansell THINKS he is. I wanted to reach into the screen and pummel his face with a storm of fists every second he was on the screen. And to illicit that feeling, I've gotta tip the hat to Boyd Holbrook 😅

@J0MBi

6 ай бұрын

well said

Amazing, you managed 1 scene thats semi close to the entire former Justified..... "golf clap"

Clement is missing the parts that Raylan is built from. This is the first time he finally sees that.

7 episodes and Raylan hasn’t cracked a egg. For this to only be 8 episodes, it has moved extremely slow. This finale better deliver.

@robertmoffit1135

10 ай бұрын

Kinda reminds me of the tommy bucks scene from the pilot episode

@jeremiahlawson6575

10 ай бұрын

@@robertmoffit1135 except no one got shot

@bloke_19xx33

10 ай бұрын

Agreed...this is not the Raylan of 'old' , who had no problem delivering his own brand of justice. My guess, he''s in the City, where there's a different way of doling out justice, and he has to 'play nice' , so as not to upset the Top Brass. I really hope that the Finale goes out with a 'satisfying bang'.

@jeremiahlawson6575

10 ай бұрын

@@bloke_19xx33 The perfect ending would’ve been them drawing on each other at the table but they ruined that.

@bloke_19xx33

10 ай бұрын

@@jeremiahlawson6575 I thought of that… but don’t you think that would have drawn comparisons to when Raylan shot his first ‘victim’, at the show’s opening scene (in Miami, Season 1) ? I was looking for some type of ‘fireworks’ in this scene, but they never came. Hopefully, the Finale has a satisfying ending.

Better hope season 2 is worth it

Didn't order aholes with my whisky

I was hoping Raylan would start to say "ever hear about Tommy Bucks? Guy who got shot at a dinner table on a Miami rooftop?"

@ShadyMcGrady209

10 ай бұрын

The major difference here is that Mansell actually wants to leave the city 😂

@daeuri

10 ай бұрын

Mansell told Raylen that friends told him about Raylen and Tommy Bucks during Episode 2.

@nickoftimeproductions8719

10 ай бұрын

Clement knows all about the incident with Tommy Bucks. He researched Raylan after they first met.

@jtthomas7349

10 ай бұрын

Still could've been a cool and funny line like "shootin mfs at the dinner table is a specialty of mine"

@jeffanon1772

10 ай бұрын

​@@jtthomas7349just ask Boyd 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Miami done come full circle.

@robertmoffit1135

10 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Reminded me of tommy bucks

"I got somthin' I gotta do first" oh boy....

Best thing is that's not the real gun. Raylan isn't dumb. Finale should be good and everyone including the Albania's will get what's coming.

@Naturalchic76

10 ай бұрын

OMG that would be awesome

@Daywalker222

10 ай бұрын

I think it was the real one, to give Raylan excuse to start blasting finely, since he can't get anything done by the book.

A tiny little part of me hoped that Mansell would kill Raylan in the show. Not because I want to see him win or Raylan die, but because I would’ve loved to see Boyd break out of prison to avenge his dear frenemy. Saying that, I am still very happy with where the show ended and with everything that happened.

Clearly this guy never heard of Tommy Bucks...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Looked to me like regurgitating from the 1st 5 minutes of season 1 , but since I don't have cable , IDK

INT. RADISSON HOTEL DINING ROOM - DAY Raylan Givens walks in, boots echoing on the floor. He scans the room, then spots Clement Mansell sitting alone at a table. Raylan approaches and sits down across from him. He places a paper bag on the table, leaving it sealed. RAYLAN: You ever have one of those days, Clement, where a bag can change your whole life? CLEMENT: (Chuckles) Most of my days are like that. It's just usually a bag full of money. RAYLAN: Ah, but money can't buy you time, especially the kind behind bars. CLEMENT: (Dryly) Well, I'm a time optimist. What's in the bag? RAYLAN: Opportunity. A crossroads, if you will. Raylan taps the paper bag lightly, a meaningful look in his eyes. CLEMENT: And why would I be interested in a crossroads? RAYLAN: Because one road leads to a dead end. Literally. CLEMENT: (Chuckles, but clearly tense) Your metaphors are as loaded as that bag, I presume. RAYLAN: Maybe. But what's loaded can be unloaded. Question is, are you feeling lucky? CLEMENT: I don't rely on luck, Raylan. What are you proposing? RAYLAN: I'm not proposing you snitch or turn a new leaf. I'm just giving you a chance to shift the narrative. CLEMENT: (Smiles) Narratives are fickle, Marshal. What makes you think I'd play a role in yours? RAYLAN: Because this isn't just my narrative, Clement. It's yours too. And sometimes the ending writes itself whether you like it or not. Clement glares at Raylan, then down at the bag. CLEMENT: (Slowly, choosing words) So, I take it you're offering me a... rewrite? RAYLAN: (Looks directly into Clement's eyes) I'm offering you a choice. Do nothing, and that bag becomes the final chapter for both of us. Take control, and who knows? You might get a sequel. CLEMENT: (Stares back, gauging Raylan) A sequel, huh? And how do I know this isn't some sort of trap? RAYLAN: You don't. But then again, where's the thrill in a sure thing? Clement sizes up Raylan once more. He takes a deep breath and then nods subtly, acknowledging the gravity of the decision before him. CLEMENT: Alright, Marshal. I'll consider your offer. But remember, every story has its twists. RAYLAN: I'm counting on it. But be warned: the clock's ticking, and time waits for no man. Raylan stands up, grabs the paper bag, and walks away, leaving Clement alone to ponder the roads that lie ahead.

Guess I should've read the comments 1st , 7 episodes and Raylon hasn't got in to a gun fight....com-on' new America is killing me , lol

I had so much hope for this show after the first one. And was so let down.

All I could think of watching this was: "He just re-played the same character from Logan, didn't he? But no cyborg arm."

**Quick grabs inside the bag** It's a ham sandwich.

@charlieross-BRM

7 ай бұрын

Well there was a 1970s film with Lou Gosset Jr. as a cop and he encounters a criminal he's familiar with. The guy puts his hand in his coat pocket. Gosset says, "Whatever you're reaching for better be a sandwich, because I'm going to make you eat it." I can't remember the title. Freebie And The Bean was another unusual "out there" cop buddy film.

The best part of this entire series was the last ten minutes when Wynona showed up to drop their daughter off. Wynona (Natalie Zea) is still smokin’, unlike that very unattractive prosecutor that Raylan was banging. And of course when Boyd broke out of prison. That’s the actual Justified story line that we all wanted to see. This was a poorly thought out series where the last few minutes of the finale was the only few minutes worth watching during the entire season.

What? End it right there? Jeez.

Lo que sucede con Mansell es que es un gran impostor, todo en él es una imitación. Cuenta diferentes versiones de lo que le ocurrió a su madre, como si estuviera imitando al Joker de "The Dark Knight". Cuando reproduce su casete, son canciones de otras bandas y nada es original o propio. La ropa que usa pertenece a otros. Lo único en lo que destaca es en matar, por eso cuando Raylan lo desafía a un duelo en esta escena, se da cuenta de que está frente a alguien auténtico que cumple con lo que dice. Por eso no lo acepta, porque sabe que, en el fondo, no es rival para Raylan.

What happens with Mansell is that he's a great impostor; everything about him is an imitation. He tells different versions of what happened to his mother, as if he were imitating the Joker from "The Dark Knight". When he plays his cassette, it's songs from other bands, nothing is original or his own. The clothes he wears belong to others. The only thing he excels at is killing, that's why when Raylan challenges him to a duel in this scene, he realizes he's facing someone authentic who follows through on what he says. That's why he doesn't accept it, because he knows deep down he's no match for Raylan.

Credits loved this season KZread comments hate it, the truth somewhere in between?

City Pimeval S U C K E D!!!

@MikeHawkBurns208

2 күн бұрын

No it didn't

Why did Carolyn give up Raylan!? That part confused me. Are they working on something together? Did I miss something?

@radtv5150

10 ай бұрын

I think after Clement killed Sweety and broke into her house and threatened her, she was willing to get Clement by any means.

@ReconMalfunction

10 ай бұрын

She literally tried to convince Raylan to postpone

@lunarm4

10 ай бұрын

​@@ReconMalfunction Wasn't much effort put into convincing him if you ask me.

So does Clement get killed in the show yet??

Pedestrian and contrived. Anyone been in a REAL gunfight?? There's not so much talk.

Timothy Olyphant said in an interview a few years ago that Justified was terminated because there was not much more that could be extracted from the characters and the story. He was right.

@waverlyking6045

10 ай бұрын

City Primeval lacks any strong characters like Boyd, Ava, Dewey, Arlo, Art, Rachel, or Mags Bennett. The only one that seemed worthwhile is the judge played by Keith David, and his character was killed.

@Daywalker222

10 ай бұрын

@@waverlyking6045 Yeah Judge was interesting

@Kilo-ct8dh

10 ай бұрын

Tim, and Rachel would've been better...

@TheCrazyMoparDude68

5 ай бұрын

I disagree, there was enough to continue the series with him working in the Miami office. Several of the characters were really good and they could have brought back a few from the original series. There was already a connection to the original series and Miami, it is a shame they made this crap instead.

Don’t do it

I’ve heard this new show just doesn’t clear the bar.

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

yep it's bad

@MikeHawkBurns208

2 күн бұрын

No it's really good

bof... on est loin du 1er jet !😢

McCloud TV series from the 70's with Dennis Weaver and the Boyd Crowder antagonist (Walton Goggins)--but don't call this Primeval version unique or new or original. I like it but it ain't new...

Why is the he audio so bad , it’s a pain trying to understand what they are mumbling

@MrFring13

10 ай бұрын

There’s captions at the top right of the screen, labeled ‘CC’

@veloway

10 ай бұрын

im watching it on a shixxy old ipad with tiny tinny speakers on low and I hear every word with ease and I’m old enough to have lost thousands of cycles of hearing on the top end, something wrong with YOUR audio

@tinman7130

10 ай бұрын

what? @@veloway

What level of Moronic Illusion is this ??

They could literally remove Raylan from the story, and absolutely nothing would change. So disappointing, the character is so good

@ShadyMcGrady209

10 ай бұрын

Not really. The whole reason this scene works so well is because Mansell is fully aware of Raylan's history and how Tommy Buck's story played out.

@billkline3002

10 ай бұрын

From what I’ve read and seen prior to the series starting, they adapted a short story and added the Raylan character. The original protagonist was a Detroit detective. There’s really nothing in the new series that brings back the Raylan character. In the original he killed 21 bad guys and sometimes 3 in an episode. How many gun fights in this? Zero.

@woyame1

10 ай бұрын

Didn't know that. Explains a lot! Thanks. @@billkline3002

@ShadyMcGrady209

10 ай бұрын

@@billkline3002 I understand where you're coming from. But it's also worth taking into consideration that this is a spinoff that takes place in an entirely different setting with an entirely different political climate. The stuff that he was getting away with in the original series already brought negative attention when he was serving in Kentucky, so I can't imagine the kind of ramifications it would have in today's woke environment. Besides, it's the intense interactions between Raylan and the villains that always held my attention, not necessarily the shootings.

@billkline3002

10 ай бұрын

@@ShadyMcGrady209 oh I’m in complete agreement with you. It’s definitely a woke version. I’m surprised Olyphant did it in the first place. Most of the response on the fan pages is negative. Most of us that were big fans of the original have stopped watching. I honestly can’t wait for it to be over, but I watched it every week. If it was done the way it was written, without Raylan, I probably wouldn’t have minded it because of the development of Clement

New series was great the end with Boyd crowders few minutes a bit naf

Clement; Saved by the b̶e̶l̶l̶ Albanians

This new show really lacks the charm of the original. I know they wanted to make Raylan a more "mature" character, but this scene is like finally the old Raylan is back. Confidently challenging Clement to a shooting match, that's the Raylan Givens we know and love. Too bad it took 7 episodes for him to return.

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

it's kinda worse than that though, they basically tease this and then the actual episode is terrible.

@TalkingHands308

10 ай бұрын

@@kheldaryt I don't know, I liked this episode. I thought this episode was one of the best episodes of the season. I didn't really like a lot of the middle episodes but enjoyed the first few episodes with Willa and this episode.

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

@@TalkingHands308 do agree with you 7 at least felt right, just annoying to me that it died out into nothing like they had a big moment w this screen then mob came and it seemed like it was ramping up but it just went anticlimactic. Also agree people hate on the Willa episodes but t they felt ok, just didn’t lead to anything.

@TalkingHands308

10 ай бұрын

@@kheldaryt Yah, definitely felt like they didn't really have an antagonist that was worth Raylan's skills.

Oh, well. A very predictable outcome…real original putting Mansell in a box… he can’t really escape, can he? When I saw the show cut to ‘Kentucky’… things became a lot more interesting. Just a ‘low-down dirty shame’ that it took the last show to give us everything we were looking for. Better late than never, I guess.

There are moments that feel like Justified and then seconds later it turns bad. This starts with Clement saying he says to Sandy to stop with the weed. Raylan responds with "some people you can't tell them anything" meaning they won't listen but also you can't trust people with something and then he says "as long as they don't tell on you" This changes from being a coment about the weed and in reality it's refering to Sandy snitching on Clement and Raylan uses it as an implication that Sandy turned on Clement. This felt like an Elmore moment. It was good. But then Clement goes "What's in your bag? Your lunch?" which i think sounds stupid. And then Clement says he is leaving town that night. Raylan's response? I'll see you later then. Not very witty...

@raysned24

10 ай бұрын

The lunch bag comment is literally from the book.

An inferior effort. Not worrhy of the Justified name

Pretty disappointing "series", in my opinion. This didn't need to be a Justified series. Not much "Raylan" in it. Detroit makes no sense for the setting (I know this comes from a book, but I don't think it worked as a series. If you can call 8 episodes a series.) I'm not asking for shootouts every episode, but better dialog and character development would have been nice. I can name almost every character from the original series. I think I can name three from this one. Yes, less episodes, but the same characters were in every episode and I still can't name them. Mansell was almost like Boone (HATED that character!). A caricature of a bad guy. From the moment you see him, you know he has to die. Not so with the Original series. He was grating every time he opened his mouth. Anyway, I know no one asked, but that's my 2 cents on the series.

This show had no spark, zero chemistry, and was pretty disappointing, actually.

This is the new social worker Raylan! He should skip Florida and drive straight to San Francisco or Portland!

@tonymanero5544

10 ай бұрын

We needed Raylan and Marshals protecting the county on January 6.

There certainly was a lot of talking.

This series is horrible and a big let down compared to the previous series. The villains are so boring and forgetful. After waiting so long for a follow up I expected better

Not one of the better scenes..Also duplicates the "supreme bullshit" 24 hr warning lunch in Miami.

Not as good as the original, unfortunately..

@MalakianM2S

10 ай бұрын

I can't stop myself thinking that like in most reboot cases they could've let the IP's legacy alone and just create their own history. This feels out of place, the same thing but not the same, like putting both shoes in the wrong foot.

@MrFring13

10 ай бұрын

@@MalakianM2SDexter new blood is so good for 9 and 1/2 episodes

@hkirkish6101

10 ай бұрын

True, but it is still better than most of what is on TV right now. And not a fan of who his so called love interest was.......no chemistry whats so ever.

@dhanang

10 ай бұрын

It is based on another novel that doesnt have Raylan in it. So yes, it is actually not Justified.

@joeyrigsby38

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree

Honestly, anyone who is enjoying this show is not enjoying justified because this show is not justified. Now, if you enjoy it, more power to you… It’s just not justified for those of us who watched justified . It doesn’t have the justified writing or characters, and it’s saturated with politically correct messaging and trending themes or narratives… It’s all the wrong focus. It’s what would happen if you took justified and made it for a modern day audience. The first episode was when I stopped watching because by the first episode you can tell… This isn’t justified.

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Whole series was crap. It was a long drawn out dreary story that went nowhere. Rayland didn't matter. Then in the last episode they tease you with the show you wish you had just seen.

I don't mind Raylan's love interest being black but couldn't they find an actress that didn't look like Mike Tyson in a wig? That bathtub scene gave me the creeps! What's with that giant head and neck? You can see the woke influence all over this god-awful mini series. Another great character ruined by the SJW squad!

@TheCrazyMoparDude68

5 ай бұрын

Pretty sure Olyphant was on board with these changes. He was a director or producer after all. He plays a character that is no nonsense and you would think he wouldn’t be the type to put up with this diversity BS, but in reality Olyphant is a typical liberal actor.

Bring back the old Raylan please - this show an’t it - they had to ruin a classic

This ruined what was a good series, horrible writing, plot was so far fetched and the acting was horrible. Awful series ruined by a woke reboot.

@kheldaryt

10 ай бұрын

ya complete waste

politics are a little 1974, worse than first 2 seasons

The series was awful. How can anyone with any and functioning eyes not see it?

@marleeglenn1945

Ай бұрын

It wasn't awful to me. It was well written and kept me entertained. I really enjoyed it. Hope they do a second season.

I can't believe they took "Justified", one of the greatest TV series ever, and turned it into this third-rate CSI spinoff.

Sorry... this ISN'T Justified. A weak ripoff. Hope Timmy got paid.😂

Timothy should die his hair, takes 5 minutes literally and would not make him look like Santa Clause, its DISTRACTING. Take care of your hair dude, people don't mind wrinkles, especially in men, but the homeless Santa white is distracting and unnecessary.

This show is a pale shadow of the orginal series....bad acting by his daughter and odd lets get real woke affair with attorney. She looks so much like his usual type 😂 and they didnt even make her an interesting character to warrant his attention.

Worst villain in Justified

Poorly written, nothing like the original series, pretty boring and a disappointment.

Man this is season is really really bad. Could have made into a 2 hour movie

City Primeval was a huge disappointment. The guy who played the Arch Villain was terrible.