Ray Comfort Vs Neil deGrasse Tyson Is Adorable
Creationist Ray Comfort complained that Neil deGrasse Tyson had misrepresented the Bible.
The astrophysicist and host of Fox's "Cosmos" said recently that using the Bible as a scientific source was problematic, because no one had ever scientifically proven a theory based on scripture...
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Ray Comfort makes me want to face palm with an iron gauntlet.
@Fa1c0
10 жыл бұрын
Everybody wants to facepalm Ray Comfort with an iron gauntlet. Or, did I misunderstand your comment?
@ThePowerfulPanda
10 жыл бұрын
Fa1c0 Your interpretation works as well and would be less painful to the person already suffering from watching Ray Comfort.
@halbarbour7805
10 жыл бұрын
Ray Comfart makes people want to facepalm so much that they can actually be arrested for assaulting themselves!
@ornical
10 жыл бұрын
His face.
@FinflazodeTurroai
10 жыл бұрын
Panda's Power, don't do that ! I did and it hurts ...
I'm convinced Ray Comfort *knows* he's full of crap.
@ZER0--
8 жыл бұрын
+Rose NoHo Or he's mentally ill ? Sociopath, psychopath (Hitchcock gave them a bad name, and so do politicians), they're not all murderers.
@RoseNoho
8 жыл бұрын
Paul L :) He could be, but I still think he knows he's full of it. I think he knows what he is doing. I think some of these fundies, are nut jobs, but sincere, Pat Robertson is an example.
@qhsperson
8 жыл бұрын
+Rose NoHo And his bank account is full of money.
@gzeusone6532
8 жыл бұрын
+Rose NoHo He knows. Ignorance sells. All these young earth creationist 'celebrity' figures have greedy motives.
@ayei6581
8 жыл бұрын
GZEUS ONE I think the same thing, same with the people making flat earth videos, conspiracy and the like. I think they know, and just making money off the gullible.
Ignorance of science allows people to believe nonsense. Most of religion can be cleaned up with education.
@GodzRod
8 жыл бұрын
The majority Nobel Prize Laureates for chemistry, physics, and medicine from 1901 to present are Christian. But don't take my word for it; do your own research.
@user-bx9ib2br6h
8 жыл бұрын
GodzRod Couldn't find "to present" but did find 1901 to 2000, so I guess we'll have to find out about the last 15 years also.
@GodzRod
8 жыл бұрын
+? Good job! There's a great deal more.
@user-bx9ib2br6h
8 жыл бұрын
GodzRod Oh I am sure there is.
@locnar893
8 жыл бұрын
+GodzRod "The majority Nobel Prize Laureates for chemistry, physics, and medicine from 1901 to present are Christian. But don't take my word for it; do your own research." So what ? How many of them were hard core creationists ? 1% ? less ? If you considere than most (if not all) of them come from western countries where christianism is the dominant religion, it's statistically coherent...
Ray Comfort considers the Flintstones' movie as a documentary.
@mistylover2082
5 жыл бұрын
Don't they all do 😏😆
@rickk2108
3 жыл бұрын
"Barney Rubble....what an actor!"
@younghannibal7434
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
"Evolution can't be observed, but Genesis can"? How... I don't even... What the fuck, Ray.
@kooljazzmann8352
9 жыл бұрын
LOL! I "observed" Genesis when I opened the buy-bull to read it...
@rustyray420
9 жыл бұрын
i think he was talking about the sega genesis
@mikeb512
9 жыл бұрын
He once saw Genesis in concert, you see. Totally observable!
@MarieMacify
7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps what he meant was that, we weren't really there to 'observe' or 'monitor the progress of all life on Earth since human was still in progress, but with Genesis comes the details of how everything was created, so we can observe it if we read the Bible that is...
@Jack-hy1zq
7 жыл бұрын
MarieMacify the earth is 14.7 billion years old. so god turns up 2000 years ago, presumably out of boredom.
Ray Cumfart, an evangelist I'd listen to, on matters regarding science. Over an actual scientist...
@sharper68
10 жыл бұрын
Lol, why? He is clownishly wrong on everything he says. They don't call him banana man for nothing.
@darrencarpenter5001
10 жыл бұрын
I don't want to start a fight but he has been proven wrong many times yet he keeps using the same material. If anything he is very dishonest. With that other fictional books like sci fi or fantasy have science in them as well but you wouldn't consider a science book. Even harry potter have forms of science with regards to biology and plant studies. I'm an atheist and have the up most respected for Neil I hope one day to meet him and maybe if I'm lucky look thru an awesome telescope with his guidance. I hope I didn't come of rude. Please have a wonderful day.
@rc100100110
10 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I detect that only a few people understood my sarcasm. I thought purposely misspelling his last name would be a dead giveaway.
@darrencarpenter5001
10 жыл бұрын
rc100100110 sorry I wasn't trying to attack you. I didn't know you were being sarcastic.
@sharper68
10 жыл бұрын
rc100100110 Poe's law strikes again. The poor spelling makes it even more like the fact free post of a supporter.
I don't care about your right to observe religious freedom as much as I respect scientific literacy. You can believe in any god you want, but don't fuckin' disrespect the scientists who try to educate you.
@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.
8 жыл бұрын
If there was a prize, you'd win... your comment really hits the damn nail on the head.
@theultimatereductionist7592
6 жыл бұрын
+Jack Jack Exactly
I don't think Ray comfort knows what 'observe' means.
@Templetonq
8 жыл бұрын
He thinks it means just watching things happen in front of one's face.
@pete_lind
8 жыл бұрын
First day created land and water. Second day ... light = not sun. So land and water was created in pitch black Then day and night ... created separately from sun Night is a blanket with holes on it Rain is from vault in heaven and half of water is on earth ... yeah ... has someone seen that vault ? Its bigger than moon ... or is it some magical invisible vault . No need to any wether reports either when we cant predict when God sprinkles water from his vault . Why even try to do a thing against floods , tornados and forest fires ... its God way telling you need to die .
@Achonas
8 жыл бұрын
he works on 2 different definitions. for his side, to observe creation all you need to do is find things that match the bible. for science you have to see it happening.
@Templetonq
8 жыл бұрын
The religious expect absolute proof from science and none for their books.
@bolajiodude3382
8 жыл бұрын
+miner69erher everything he even says you can observe in fossil records isn't even true
the funniest thing he said in that clip is that you can't trust evolution but you can use the fossil record to prove the bible, now that did make me laugh out loud
The saddest thing about Ray is that he never ever listens. He's had his shtick debunked, to his face, repeatedly but it just goes in one ear, sails on through the clouds in his head, and out the other side. He slams evolution because, in his opinion, we can't observe it. Yet we can't observe Genesis. By his own standard, his belief is dismissed. And evolution has been observed. Not least of all because we have fossils.
@RideMyLighting
9 жыл бұрын
A lot of very smarth people have answer with pure science his bullshit claims, but he just seems to ignore them and claim the same bullshit but with other people.
@BailiffQuimby
9 жыл бұрын
+G. Whistler Well, his explanation as to the difference would be that he knows his fables are true through divine revelation - God personally assured him that Genesis happened as described in the bible, and God promised that God cannot lie, so it has to be the truth. (please understand I'm not defending his argument - just explaining it further).
@diceman199
9 жыл бұрын
+BailiffQuimby Let's examine a little of his argument. In this clip he said it tells us HOW it was done and then say's genesis "in the beginning god created" etc. No HOW in there just an assertion without anything to back it up.
@BailiffQuimby
9 жыл бұрын
diceman199 Well, to his mind, "God dunnit" is "how it was done". For him, that's good enough, because hearing it gives him that warm fuzzy feeling. :-)
@diceman199
9 жыл бұрын
+BailiffQuimby I suspect that like the rest of them it's the cash they get off the "flock" (can you say shearing....or fleecing maybe more appropriate?) that gives them the warm fuzzies
I blame Phil Collins , he wrote most of the lyrics for Genesis.
@CraigMcGuinn
Жыл бұрын
This comment is criminally underrated and deserves more likes
"It's observable - Genesis" Yeah, we found Adam's rib and a half eaten apple.
@vgsdomingo1
8 жыл бұрын
+MDMA4LIFE And the talking snake fossil.
@Pietje-V
4 жыл бұрын
@@vgsdomingo1 and the talking donkey.. and no I'm not talking about Ray
Ray says the bible is TESTABLE USING THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD? Is he HIGH? "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters".
@whatsuphufflepuff2990
10 жыл бұрын
I facepalmed when he said that. What a fucking idiot.
@Voidsworn
10 жыл бұрын
WhatsUpHufflepuff I no longer facepalm, I ballpunch :D
@CraigMcGuinn
Жыл бұрын
@@Voidsworn not to mention that the Bible suggests God created the Sun (which the Bible refers to as light) on the second day, which means God created the heavens and the earth before the Sun was part of our Solar system according to the holy book
Ray is a business man, nothing more, his financial accounts demonstrate this
"The comfort zone" is an insanely fitting title, seeing as how he never comes out of his comfort zone to face the facts.
when a guy is making a couple of million tax free dollars a year he ain't an idiot, the idiots are the ones who pay him..
@dougzembiec9995
8 жыл бұрын
+Drugaddict&Atheist from The Netherlands assuming an unseen, unverified being wrote the bible through whispering in men's heads makes Christians respect amongst atheists because their methods lack logic yet they claim logic in design
@KalleKonkel
8 жыл бұрын
In the words of the late and great Mr.Wan Kenobi "Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?".
@manuellopez1956
7 жыл бұрын
Sadly you're absolutely right. Was it Twain who said religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool?
@user-qk6tj1kw2n
7 жыл бұрын
Tmi
@alansimmons9621
7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if atheists keep Comfort going, but apparently not. It really shouldn't surprise me that people are prepared to send him money. There are some really stupid people about. The one consolation is that the western world at least is becoming increasingly secular.
The first sentence of the Bible is wrong and it never gets any better from there.
@Fa1c0
10 жыл бұрын
I thought it an amusing coincidence that, "In the beginning" sounds a lot like, "Once upon a time."
@Kee2Oz
10 жыл бұрын
Fa1c0 "In a land/kingdom far far away..." If there are still people as gullible as Ray walking the Earth in a thousand years, Shrek will be considered the savior.
@happytobereligionfree9648
10 жыл бұрын
Fa1c0 In some translations, the first sentence begins, "No shit, there I was..."
@Fa1c0
10 жыл бұрын
HappyToBeReligionFree I was going to reply to your comment, but then I realized it stands on its own.
@happytobereligionfree9648
10 жыл бұрын
Fa1c0 (Disclaimer) The previous statement is to be used for the purposes of humor, sarcasm, and/or mockery. Apply as necessary to prevent unwanted delusion.
Ray Comfort runs a business...that s it, no matter what you tell him, he needs to sell dvds and books so anything that can damage his earning will be dismissed and not acknowledged. You can not argue with people who make a business of scamming others with lies.
@ST4LLI0N
10 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with you.
@PMeursault
10 жыл бұрын
all religious perpetrators are people too stupid/lazy to get a real job, or con artists executing the greatest con of all
@AlbertGuilmont
10 жыл бұрын
PMeursault Religion is the only scam / fraud not punished (even protected) *by law!*
I lost it when he said the Bible passes the scientific method. Goddamn that was good
@donaldmartinez7428
6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Preston to you he is.. To most people hes a dishonest dumbass.. People hear his debates just to laugh at how dumb people can be..
@rligon5172
6 жыл бұрын
I hope we can find the fossil of the 7-headed snake.. then they can make a Jurrasic park movie and include it!
@Raz.C
6 жыл бұрын
Donald Martinez I think you missed the veiled sarcasm that Joseph put in his comment. It's readily apparent that he doesn't have any respect for ray comfort. Dude, you HAVE to read things properly and without bias, otherwise you're doing the same thing religious idiots do. We need to be better than them and stay better than them, if we want to show them that the world would be better without their nonsense.
@donaldmartinez7428
6 жыл бұрын
Razar Campbell oh yeah lol.. i didnt get the banana joke.. thanks..
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Preston: you spelled "God" wrong for your context. I'd take out the o and put in an "aw." AAAAAWWWWWW!
It's not a fair debate. Ray Comfort is missing a brain.
@insaneinthemembrane682
7 жыл бұрын
ldchappell1 Ahhh who needs a brain when there's bananas 😂
@alvarogoenaga3965
6 жыл бұрын
He does have one. The thing is that it is brand new, he never uses it.
@mistylover2082
5 жыл бұрын
Wonder why abortion is seriously a thing and y theist dimwits like ken ham or any of the religious are emotional HATERS of it because we invented abortions for the religious so they can't spread like a virus they truly are... To bad it didn't work and we have our opponents denying truth and education that the WORD of GOD is NEVER a science book but a virus of zombies so say what you want there's no way to get away or escape from the ultimate truth fact...
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
bucketsand shims: blow his hair off? He hasn't got enough to blow his nose.
@BlacksmithTWD
4 жыл бұрын
For sure he is missing some crucial scientific education.
actually, there are fish and amphibians and reptiles that can change genders almost at will too. Not just snails.
@Kee2Oz
10 жыл бұрын
But fish, frogs, and snakes are cited in the bible. They felt safer mocking the 'lonely' gastropod. Who would the snail complain to?
@dangerouslytalented
10 жыл бұрын
Chris AA apart from the transgender talking snake that offered Eve the apple...
@cbooth2004
10 жыл бұрын
Chris AA Behold the "'lonely' gastropod", With one foot in the froth; It shuffles through both gender roles, Inspiring God to wrath.
@CrudOMatic
10 жыл бұрын
Christopher Booth Winnar.
@RavishingBeyond
10 жыл бұрын
...and humans too. RuPaul was one of the earlier humans that used mass media to display his/her gender changing abilities!
I love Ray Comfort. The guy makes me laugh. "[The Bible] tells us how god created the Earth. 'In the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth.' And so, it is a science book". That is just brilliant. He thinks he locked up the argument right there, by reading that sentence. Like, if I argued with someone and said, "Once upon a time, there were three bears." and just drop the mike.
Trying to reason with Ray Comfort is like trying to teach your hungry dog calculus. Your words reach their ears, but all they hear is Jesus or bacon respectively. The difference is you can feed your dog and improve your chances.
@davidcr566
6 жыл бұрын
Mark Beronte Also, dogs have a functional brain.
@TheTruthKiwi
4 жыл бұрын
Haha Good one and also true
@olumorganjoe
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcr566 no they dont.
@davidcr566
4 жыл бұрын
@@olumorganjoe Really? Please do elaborate.
@olumorganjoe
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcr566 dogs can't talk,do calculus,play music or build civilization.
"What makes you think plants want Brondo?" "Brondo has electrolytes!" "But what ARE electrolytes even?" "They're what plants crave!"
Um.... The Bible describes the earth as a flat circle (similar to a pancake)... Not exactly the most scientifically accurate book, I'd say.
@RiasatKhanSakif
10 жыл бұрын
Yes...but it's god's word and it's testable......just take a ruler and put it on the ground....you'll see the ground is flat....you can test it anywhere on earth and you'll find the ground is flat.....if ground is flat everywhere the earth must also be flat....and if you still don't believe me read the bible/quran/horse shit of your choosing!
@zonezs
10 жыл бұрын
Riasat Khan that depends on the longitud of the ruler....
@TheHumbuckerboy
10 жыл бұрын
Exactly where ( according to you) is this stated in the Bible ?
@TheHumbuckerboy
10 жыл бұрын
VideoAudioDisco09 I was actually asking donnycage to answer his own statement where he referred to 'a pancake' , but however...Of course this verse doesn't even imply that the bible is stating that the planet Earth is flat .This becomes clearer when we put it into context even by recognising the verse immediately prior to it which refers to the Moon. In fact Job 26 v 10 seems to be describing God's work in the aesthetic separation of the dark ( night sky ) from the light ( the circle being in fact the light reflecting Moon ) upon the water in the appearance of a reflection which will then obviously appear as a light coloured/tone circle upon the flat dark (because it is night-time) water . A pancake is actually 3 -dimensional whereas a reflection is truly flat . Even discounting verse 9 ,the separation of the light and the darkness is inferred to as being the horizon IE sky light ,waters dark in another translation (NIV) . Either way how can a circle upon the face of the waters possibly be referring to planet Earth ?
@donnycage
10 жыл бұрын
TheHumbuckerboy Ironically a verse that many Christians erroneously try to use to claim the Bible promoted a round earth, actually demonstrates that the writers actually thought the earth was flat (and a circle). Isaiah 40:22, "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth". Circle of the earth, huh? lol... Ahh but let's keep reading, it gets better... "And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And *spreads them out like a tent to dwell in*." Tents cover flat surfaces... Not spheres. Very clearly the writer described the earth as a circle... (Hebrew word "chuwg", which literally means..... circle... Note, he could've used the word "duwr" [which is a better description for the REAL shape of the earth], but he didn't... ). And as we keep reading, we see that the author not only thought the earth was a circle, but also a *flat circle*... Oh still not convinced? Let's see what a different writer said about what form the earth took... Job 38:14 describes the earth "It takes on form like *clay under a seal*"... Wanna take a wild guess as to what shape clay under a seal looks like??? Drum roll please..... *a flat circle* (similar to a pancake).... If you don't believe me, go outside, grab some clay and mash it with a seal and tell me what shape it takes... So, sorry to burst your bubble, but your Bible was *not* inspired by an omniscient being. It was written by over 40 fallible authors... At that time, it was believed that the earth was a flat circle... Which, in their defense, is completely understandable, considering they look up and see the sun... a circle. They see the moon, another circle... a bunch of stars (tiny circles)... so naturally they would think the earth is also a circle (Not to mention, they could see the earth's shadow on the moon, and know it's a circle).... They just thought it was flat.... The writers merely adopted whatever the mainstream view (of the earth) was at the time their books / letters were written.
Genesis is repeatable and observable?
@secludedmisanthrope6388
10 жыл бұрын
Just when you didn't think the fact that he hears voices and calls his imaginary friend God a real person was as crazy as he could get, he takes another slap to the face by saying that....
@nitehawk86
10 жыл бұрын
To him, observing something written in a specific book is the same as observing a thing actually happening. It is simply Ray Comfort using language to try to confuse people. Funny that he only fools his creationist idiot friends. And he makes a lot of money for it.
@alhaus3
10 жыл бұрын
***** you proved nothing except that you can curse like a drunken sailor, and that you have violent thoughts about people that have different opinions than you. You are much scarier than Comfort!
@butterwater8279
4 жыл бұрын
Secluded Misanthrope my pastor and friends prayed over me. I used to have bad migraines and when i turned my life to God i don't remember having a migraine since and closely after when they prayed i felt a tingling feeling in my head and thats just one there have been so many miracles not only in my life but others
@PhoenixtheII
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you go back to the first verse, and observe the whole chapter again.
In the beginning, Lord Sauron created the One Ring, one ring to rule them all. I read it in a book. It must be true. Scientific fact, yo.
@dianabenjamin7243
5 жыл бұрын
Please read the Bible
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
nordy2010: don't forget, Sauron is a scientist, he forged the one ring in a volcano, and that's a scientific fact that volcanoes exist! PROOF!
@jilliansmith7123
5 жыл бұрын
Diana Benjamin: to what end? What makes you think we haven't read it--and read it--and read it--and READ it? It's only really funny the first time you actually "get" the joke. After that, it's first SAD and then maddeningly evil.
@mortenstaffeldt5541
5 жыл бұрын
Nope in the beginning the valar created Valinor and Middelearth, later Sauron created the rings. You need to know your Silmarillion.
@BlacksmithTWD
4 жыл бұрын
Guess you are not familiar with Tolkien's motivation to write it.
"It passes the scientific method!" How?
So to Ray the fossil record is observable evidence that confirms the Bible but not observable evidence that confirms evolution?Seems a rather flawed logic.
*The Great Mark Twain - 100 years or so ago* "Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool." “Whatever the Church damns is saved; whatever it opposes prospers ---like anti-slavery and evolution.” “Man was made at the end of the week’s work, when God was tired.” “Such is the human race. Often it does seem a pity that Noah and his party did not miss the boat.” “Human beings seem to be a poor invention. If they are the noblest work of God where is the ignoblest?” “If man had created man he would be ashamed of his performance.” *"Only one thing is impossible for God: to find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.”* *“The Church here rests under the usual charge ---an obstructer and fighter of progress; until progress arrives, then she takes the credit.”*
did I miss the Neil tyson part? your title is as accurate as the bible apparently
@3DFLYLOW
8 жыл бұрын
+Lemming Herder noodle guy is right. you are wrong.
@wonderwoman6033
8 жыл бұрын
he is actually right rofl
@wonderwoman6033
8 жыл бұрын
look at what Kyle is saying before the clip.... deafy xD
@timdenelzen64
8 жыл бұрын
lol nice one
@cryospiral
6 жыл бұрын
3DFLYLOW the noodle guy is exceptionally right!
The Bible is to science as Dr Suess is to medicine.
I wonder if Ray Comfort is familiar with the ZW and UV chromosomes and how they render his silly "male/female" thingy problematic. No, of course not, his book informs us that bats are birds, so he's clearly operating from a sphere of ignorance.
@sharper68
10 жыл бұрын
If it does not validate his fact free spin he most certainly does not know it and as a focused effort ignores that info.
@Walruswhale
10 жыл бұрын
i thought it said bats were insects?
It has electrolytes
@GeneralG1810
10 жыл бұрын
Should use water like out of the toilet 8D
@lAMAR658
10 жыл бұрын
literal lol
@shadoudirges
9 жыл бұрын
But Brawndo is what plants crave.
@GeneralG1810
9 жыл бұрын
Dirges LMAO I just watched that film again the other day, Loved Terry Cruise as the pres 8)
@herculesrockefeller2984
9 жыл бұрын
Go AWAY! Batin.
Atheists, the bible is not only a book of science, it's also a book of morals. Does your precious Book of Darwin that you consult for guidance in matters of morality contain *any* moral teachings as beautiful as Psalm 137:9 "Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."? No, it does not. Check mate, atheists.
@mikeb512
9 жыл бұрын
Haha why the hell would any of Darwin's books have had moral teachings? He wasn't a philosopher, nor are his books meant to be used as any kind of basis for how one should live their life -- they were science books (*unlike* the Bible, despite your delusions otherwise). You *do* understand that, don't you?
@Brixey55
9 жыл бұрын
Mike Vizioz Not sure if troll or not...
@TheGingaPrince
9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@dematar
9 жыл бұрын
I love the morality argument. By that argument alone, one could infer that all followers of non Christian religions are fundamentally immoral. As this is clearly not true, using the morality argument to vindicate the bible seems a little silly. Not to mention the countless innocent individuals god has slain, such as killing the first born of Egypt to punish the pharaoh. Moral my aching ass.
@keybladesrus
9 жыл бұрын
At first, I thought this comment was serious, and I was ready to roll my eyes. The morality argument again? Seriously? Then I kept reading and saw what verse was used. Well played. Well played, indeed.
the Bible's numerous contradictions only show what a great God He is! After all, who but an infinitely powerful being can actually contradict Himself! He is more powerful than He is!
@andrewhawes3134
9 жыл бұрын
+J Bishop The sad thing is that there are probably a lot of people who would take what you said seriously and think it was a good point. Poe's Law is in full effect these days. I feel sorry for the satirists of the future.
My gosh! ... when did the bible become a science book? ... Ray Comfort should not represent to the religious community in any way shape or form.
According to the Bible (1 Kings 7:23) Pi (π ≈ 3.14159) is equal to 3: "And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." The circumference of a circle is the diameter times Pi (π). But this verse say that a round molten sea has a diameter of 10 and a circumference of 30. According to the math if the diameter is 10 then the circumference should be around 31.41. This is an error of about 5%. Kids in the 3rd grade can measure better than this using their feet and string. This scripture is either wrong about a basic mathematical property or they had very bad measurement done. Either way this proves that the scripture is imperfect.
@stever4181
9 жыл бұрын
What it proves is you no nothing about the period in which 1 Kings 7:23 in written in. Here is a link to explain what you don't understand. creation.com/does-the-bible-say-pi-equals-3 You are taking a modern measurement and apply it to an ancient text and then saying the text is wrong. The text is right for its day and that is the way you should read it. BTW there is no 'Kings' in the Bible. It is either 1 Kings or 2 Kings.
@charlietuba
9 жыл бұрын
Steve R Okay, I made a minor error. But then so did you when you said ,"…you no nothing…" I at least know the difference between "KNOW" and "NO." What you were saying was a double negative. No nothing = That which is not nothing. In regard to this verse, I reference Chapter 33 of the book "A Slice of Pi" by Liz Strachan. There the author describes how a class of children drew a circle in the playground and measured it using their feet. They came up with a closer value of π than King Solomon. If you are saying that this is close enough, then would you be willing to fly in a plane where there might be an error of 5%? The creation story (stories) were written by early simple people who knew little of science. From Wikipedia: The earliest written approximations of π are found in Egypt and Babylon, both within 1 percent of the true value. In Babylon, a clay tablet dated 1900-1600 BC has a geometrical statement that, by implication, treats π as 25/8 = 3.1250. In Egypt, the Rhind Papyrus, dated around 1650 BC, but copied from a document dated to 1850 BC has a formula for the area of a circle that treats π as (16/9)2 ≈ 3.1605.
@CSEwens
9 жыл бұрын
Steve R if it were written by a divine creator of the cosmos, why would time bear any relevance? It wouldn't.
@stever4181
9 жыл бұрын
charlietuba So I made a insignificant mistake. So what? You obviously knew what I was talking about. Where as your mistake took a bit of searching of 1 & 2 Kings to find the verse you quoted. I still stand by my statement 'You Know nothing of the Bible. and you continue to put modern thinking to an ancient text and calling the text wrong. Go back and reread this creation.com/does-the-bible-say-pi-equals-3 It is self explanatory and proves you wrong, again.
@stever4181
9 жыл бұрын
C.S. Ewens Simple, we live within a time continuum. Where the Bible says "God created the heavens and the earth" How much of this does man understand? Just before this it says, "In the beginning God" This shows us that before there was anything God already existed. How is this possible? Where did God come from? How did he create? I have no idea and neither does anyone else. Because we live in time and cannot fathom anything outside of time. In fact everything we understand has to do with time. I imagine for God to tell us about all he knows would be like us explaining the internet to an ant.
What can we expect from a dude that thinks a banana is the perfect creation of god.
@RoseNoho
7 жыл бұрын
That has convinced me Comfort knows he is full of crap. That banana clip was full of cheap sexual innuendo. He even says the contents won't squirt in your face. What is there is a banana to squirt in your face?
I love how people like this guy can stare the facts straight in the face and call them ignorant. it's hilarious.
The Bible stands up to the scientific method: Its observable - You can see it. Its testable and repeatable - You can read it and others, following your method of opening it and looking at the words in a specific order can read it as well. Do you get the idea Ray has no clue what science is? ;)
@happytobereligionfree9648
10 жыл бұрын
It's also combustible, shreddable, and biodegradable. It makes a nice hotpad for your casseroles and the pages can be used as a somewhat expensive birdcage liner.
@corthew
10 жыл бұрын
HappyToBeReligionFree Don't forget its excellent use in emergencies for rolling joints. ;)
@happytobereligionfree9648
10 жыл бұрын
corthew KZreadr FactVsReligion did that in a video!
So by Ray's logic, all old myths that were written are science books. Why does anyone listen to this man? It's insanity or he's a good con artist.
@Coastfog
10 жыл бұрын
False dichotomy. He obviously is insane AND a good con artist.
Ray's picture should accompany the definition of 'willful ignorance'.
Ray has to be the biggest troll ever LMAOO
Bro, do you even Science?! Ray Comfort doesn't!
@RavishingBeyond
10 жыл бұрын
Hey...I science. Can't speak for him, but I damn sure science!
@alhaus3
10 жыл бұрын
not that i agree with everything Comfort says, but scientists get it wrong sometimes too. sometimes they even flat out lie. see IPCC scandal for irrefutable proof of that fact. dont make scientists your god either. if you believe everything the scientists say, your just as bad as radical religious types.
@StevenEveral
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the difference between scientists and religious people like Ray Comfort is that scientists want you to prove them wrong. If there is something that disproves a scientific idea, well, let's test it! Religion does not allow that.
Ray... stop trying. PLEASE. Just stop. You aren't representing Christianity, you're giving it an even worse name than you and your ilk have already given it. Just. Stop.
@terceldude
9 жыл бұрын
Jared Knight true that!
"you can't observe something that happened 60million years ago". *cough coughs* fossils *cough cough*
The fact that his show is literally called "The Comfort Zone" is quite hilarious in itself.
Yesterday I saw a miracle, and it made me believer. I witnessed a bible being squeezed from a bulls rectum, I fell to my knees, and proclaimed surely god does knoweth the truth of all creation.
@dianabenjamin7243
5 жыл бұрын
Never make a mockery of something your not sure of
brondo its what plants crave. why do plants crave it? its got electrolytes! whats electrolytes? its what plants crave.
Can any christian tell me the last time you observed a creation? What was the last thing you saw appear from nowhere, fully complete and/or mature? A human, a plant, a land-form....anything.
The purpose of science is to overcome our false religious tendencies. Without science we would be stuck in the religious ages commonly referred to as the dark ages.
As of this comment, there are exactly 666 dislikes. I have to wonder if the Christian that was the 666th dislike debated with him or herself between wanting to dislike the video to show his or her faith and not wanting to be responsible for the number 666 to show its face.
"Neil deGrasse Tyson" shouldn't be in the title. He did not once appear in the video
Hey, Secular Talk. I'm an aethist myself, and I agree with the point you're making. But just wanted to correct you a little as you seem to mis-understand Hinduism (as do most Hindus btw). You mentioned the Bhagvat Geeta (a Hindu text) and said it was the word of god, and made the circular logic example. Here's the thing. The Bhagvat Geeta actually does NOT claim to be the word of God. In fact, there is no Hindu text that claims to be the word of God. I can do a longer chat some time later about the weirdness that is Hinduism. But just know this. Hinduism is primarily 7 separate philosophies. 2 out of those, specifically deny the existance of God. These two philosophies are called Vedanta. (the last a is an uh, not aah.) The way they differ is their opinion on destiny vs free-will. One believes in free-will, while the other views the universe more like a maths equation, where everything is determinate. Budhism and Jainism, also considered to be Hindu philosophies, were both started by Hindu philosophers. One explicitly denied the existence of God, and the other made no mention of it. They did talk about rebirth though. Now the primary scripture/books for Hindus are the 4 vedas (tha A rule applies here as well : uh, aah). The first books clearly mentions that man made God. It goes on to talk about levels of worship, where idol-worship is down at the bottom, meditation somewhere in the middle, and aethism is considered to be the highest level of worship. Essentially you could say that Hindu texts actually give multiple versions of the same philosophy for people with different levels of intellect.
@Skyswindler
9 жыл бұрын
The entire gita was said by krishna to arjun in mahabharat. How is it not the word of God according to hindus?
Ray Comfort-: When you say the Bible's not a science book, are you saying it's not a knowledge book? It say how God created the heaven's and the earth. It says right here, GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN'S AND THE EARTH.... What??
@shakie3545
8 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that logic. Lol.
@harveywabbit9541
7 жыл бұрын
The Egyptian Nut was heaven and Seb was earth. They cling together (screw) for 12 hours out of the 24 hour period.
Disclaimer - I'm not a Christian Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing." ~ Job understood the idea that the earth is suspended in space. Job 26:10 "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end." ~ Job also understood the movement of the sun and moon in circular patterns. Isaiah 40:21 & 22 "Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in." ~ Isaiah understood that God sits above the "circle of the earth" or as could be translated "globe" Proverbs 8:27 "When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep," ~ The word circle here is translated from a phrase that is applied to the curvature of the horizon when on the open ocean. This is the same physical evidence used by the greeks some 1,000 years later to make their own observations about a round earth.
@1140Cecile
10 жыл бұрын
A circle is a two dimensional description. A globe or an orb are descriptions of a three dimensional object.
@VerdosoVersusElites
10 жыл бұрын
right on!
@boletarianbread7349
10 жыл бұрын
Even in Isaiah 40:21 and 22 you cherry pick out of a passage when the other part of the passage contradicts it. Sits above the circle of the earth? If the earth is a globe as you say and not a circle, how does God sit "above" it? What is above? Direction is all relative in the universe. And then, God "stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in." According to this passage the sky is spread out OVER the earth like a tent, which means the earth is flat. Even your INCORRECT attempt at cherry picking a passage disproves your own point.
@dangerouslytalented
10 жыл бұрын
anybody who has been out to see or has been to a mountaintop would clearly see the curvature of the horizon. That's not something that would have been unavailable knowledge back when Job and Proverbs were written. And the earth being hung on nothing was mere conjecture, for all they know it was that whole turtle thing.
@theprogressivecynic2407
10 жыл бұрын
...and? ***** Every generalized prophecy can be looked at in a way that gives it some basis in reality. The Hopi Indian elders made a prophecy that predicted the end of the world via gourds of ashes that would fall from the air, boil the oceans, "make people like blades of grass in the prairie fire" and spread a poisonous fire that would prevent living things from growing for generations. This end would be preceded by nine signs: “The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left. “This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder. [Guns] “This is the Second Sign:Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes - the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies.” [pioneers’ covered wagons] “This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes - the coming of the white men’s cattle.” [longhorn cattle] “This is the Fourth Sign:The land will be crossed by snakes of iron.” [Railroad tracks] “This is the Fifth Sign:The land shall be crisscrossed by a giant spider’s web.”[the internet, electric power and telephone lines] “This is the Sixth sign:The land shall be crisscrossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun.” [highways] “This is the Seventh Sign:You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it.” [oil spills in the ocean] “This is the Eight Sign:You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom. [Hippies]. “And this is the Ninth and Last Sign:You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. [the U.S. Space Station Skylab falling to Earth in 1979] Never mind this, the eventual conflict is supposed to occur with the people to the east who first controlled fire (IE. the people who live in the fertile crescent region--the middle east) If I were a superstitions man, I would say that the Hopi prophecies have smoked the Christian ones in terms of accuracy--they even listed the signs in chronological order and managed to theorize the one currently realistic way that humans could end the world, nearly a century before it was developed.
Ray here reminds me of the day in first grade I said "no, I will NOT give you my lunch money!" ... and he got his ass kicked just as much.
The amount of people in this comment section who don't understand what evolution is or how it works is downright baffling and depressing.
The funny thing is that creationists as Ray Comfort just disregard all of the evidence for evolution
Comfort and his side kick remind of some skeezing used car salesman.
@dangerouslytalented
10 жыл бұрын
... burned out formerchildstar used car salesman... Some of those formerchildstars actually did something with their lives, like snorting metric fucktons of blow or getting advanced degrees in mathematics or going on reality TV.
So Ray Comfort says that evolution is not science because it's not observable (according to him) and yet he believes that creation is science and is observable because of genesis? This guy makes me sick!
@tjazzmcneil5514
10 жыл бұрын
***** I think you mean "you're". How am I wrong? What claim did I make?
@tjazzmcneil5514
10 жыл бұрын
***** Not only did I not claim that there is no god, I did not even say the word "god" in my comment.
@tjazzmcneil5514
10 жыл бұрын
***** That's not how it works. Not believing in a god is the default position. The truth is that no one knows whether a god exists or not. Until there is sufficient evidence we must logically stay with the default position that a god does not exist. Simply because I am not claiming there is no god, does not mean a god exists.
@tjazzmcneil5514
10 жыл бұрын
***** Even if there was sufficient evidence it would not mean that I am making any claims, it would just mean that my denial of the "god claim" is false. Again, not making any claims. lol. Why do you theists want atheists to be making claims so badly? Is it because you realize you do not have sufficient evidence for your claim that a god exists?
@tjazzmcneil5514
10 жыл бұрын
***** What you wrote does not make sense. Ok maybe a scenario will help you understand. lol Let's say for example: You claim there is a god (the claim) I say you don't have the evidence (the anti-claim) You're saying that if you provide sufficient evidence for your god claim then that means I am also making a claim? No, again I made no claims. Simply because I was wrong, does not mean I made any claims. You might want to take a logic 101 class. The denial of a claim is not a claim, it is the opposite of a claim. Is that where you are getting confused?
The banana man is about as intelligent as bananas. Edit: I just realized that's an insult to bananas.
Thank you internet. Religion will be dead a century from now. Thank God for that.
@ctwentysevenj6531
6 жыл бұрын
Shiawasenaneko unfortunately it is still going strong in the underdeveloped third world. Just see what is happening in the middle East with all it's religious wars. India, where religion keeps millions of people in permanent ignorance. The same throughout the Islamic world, and parts of the Christian world like the Philippines.
@TheTruthKiwi
4 жыл бұрын
@@ctwentysevenj6531 Sad but true unfortunately
I think the Bible is more of a collection of different accounts of the Jewish peoples. For example, the Old Testament is mostly taken from the Jewish holy book, the Torah. The OT uses alot of metaphors like "The Lord delivered victory unto the Israelites" or "The Lord hath forsaken its own people" to serve as a reasoning as to why the Israelites won or lost battles. The Israelites killed millions of people in order to carve out their empire of Israel thousands of years ago. There is scripture in the Bible of Jews bashing the heads of heathen infants against the walls and destroying everything within a city, even livestock so that that city cannot be inhabited again. The level of cruelty the Jewish people inflicted on neighboring tribes would have made "God" regret it's actions of creating humans. The fact that God did not intervene back then to the thousands of people being killed and their deaths being justified by the Israelites as God's will to give the Israelites their promised land is proof that the God of the Bible is not a God of love and compassion as stated by Jesus. Don't get me wrong. The message of Jesus is inspirational and I take his message of love and toleration to heart, but I don't believe that I will go to heaven because of what I believe in but based on how kind and helpful I can be to other people on earth. If I die and nothing happens, so be it. If I die and go to hell not because I tried my best to do good but because I didn't believe in God, then God is not a loving or compassionate God as the Bible states.
@Random-bg1cw
10 жыл бұрын
yeah but it was probably thousands or hundreds of thousands, not millions. bit of an exaggeration there pal. atheist by the way so keep your gun on safety there sir.
@rocknessmonster2540
10 жыл бұрын
I believe the best way I can think to describe it ( The Bible) is an anthology of mythology. Being that it is almost completely borrowed from multiple religious texts and stories floating around the area at the time.
It's got electrolytes!! Eventually he just told them he could actually talk to plants and they told him they wanted water!
has ray ever won a debate in his life
"In the beginning god created the heaven and the earth." How is that describing how this god created the earth? It explains nothing.
Can we just have a final battle royale debate of all the great scientific minds against the religotards and settle this once and for all
@samedz3966
9 жыл бұрын
There shouldn't be a vote. It should be a clearly structured debate that presents each side's case for topics (e.g. evolution, morality etc.) in a way that the audience is not confused or mis-led or tricked and each speaker is not interrupted when talking. For example: Evolution: Scientific evidence for = X Religious evidence against = Y If it's structured correctly then an outsider to the debate can clearly make their mind up without the baggage of preaching or deception. Nye and Ham's debate is the closest so far to it
@shiphotel2
9 жыл бұрын
jimmy bluebos if science won religious people would find a way to justify it and or excuse themselves, if religion won....god help us.
@samedz3966
9 жыл бұрын
When religion won in Europe it was called the Dark Ages. When science won, we cured diseases, put man on the moon, tripled our life expectancy...
@jasonh7128
9 жыл бұрын
jimmy bluebos I think we got a taste of that with Nye vs Ham. Ham basically said he wouldn't believe in evolution even if it were proven to him, and the creationists thought he won the debate. After that, I don't see the point in debating them any further.
@samedz3966
9 жыл бұрын
Jason Houston Or at a minimum revoke the tax exempt status religious social clubs have!
At 20 seconds in I'm already vomiting from cringe.
For our next competition, I go up against Nicki Minaj in a singing/hot-pop-female-booty contest.
I cringed at his misuse of "the scientific method"
Brawndo has electrolytes.
@vicovendale6955
7 жыл бұрын
But why does brawndo say so? Because brawndo helps growing pains. How do we know brawndo helps growing pains? Kirk Cameron told me so. But how can we believe Kirk Cameron? Because he takes brawndo.
Where is Neil?
@ShawnsterVideos
8 жыл бұрын
+rafael pican Thank you!
You can not see how evolution works over millions of years. But you can view 'the creation in seven days' every week.
i love how he reads his own version of the scriptures.
Someone should tell degrassi atheism is not science
@beginization
10 жыл бұрын
Samantha Jones Do you believe atheism is science ? atheist attempt to defend atheism with taking credit for science and characterizing theist as anti-science as if it is the domain of atheist
@beginization
10 жыл бұрын
Samantha Jones Not true, any debate between atheism and theism is put as science against religion, Dawkins and his atheist have always used science as some kind of dogma for atheism, you characterize theist as anti-science, if someone ask a atheist to explain why he is a atheist and usually the answer is science works ? maybe you should watch some debates and see how much atheism relies on science as a defense
@beginization
10 жыл бұрын
Samantha Jones Why do you assume the bible is a science book ? religion is kind of different to science, scientist are not deep thinkers, they concern themselves with repeating experiments, that cant be done with evolution or multi-universes yet atheist promote these things as real theories, you should watch a few Krauss or shermer debates, they use the multiverse as proof for why the constants are finely tuned in this universe. Watch Dawkins debates, he explains how complex your beliefs are, answer this, if atheism is not a religious sect why do you seek converts, Dawkins and atheist fellowships all have conversion pages ?
@beginization
10 жыл бұрын
Samantha Jones That is exactly the same reason religions give to seek converts, you really should learn more about your beliefs, watch some Dawkins clips or Krauss, they will explain your beliefs better to yourself
@beginization
10 жыл бұрын
Samantha Jones Yes, even the new cosmos by degrassi who is a new atheist are doubting life evolved from a single cell as evolution teachers but many, Dr Venter has found 12 distinct DNA codes and 4 which are considered a deeper level of life very different to our own and has said Darwins tree of evolutionary life is a product of a bygone era, if anything their maybe a bush of life as all life did not evolve from the same DNA codes. By the way I am not religious but have notice you new atheist have turned atheism into a brand new religion, it is embarrassing for us who dont care about faiths, it has made everyone look like they are in a cult of Dawkin
The bible doesnt say shit about how "god create the earth" is only says that he did
@yoooooooo8
8 жыл бұрын
Genesis 1:1-10
@mushroomfat
6 жыл бұрын
yoooooooo8 like I said, it says THAT he did, not HOW he did. It just says “he created blah blah blah”. There’s no science there, just claims
@mushroomfat
6 жыл бұрын
Ironically, peer review papers can outline how genes change over time etc and you’ll reject it
I'm convinced creationists are the least intelligent people currently on this silly little mudball
Ray, the bible does not tell us HOW the earth and the universe was created, it merely states that god did it. Science gives us the explanation.
Here we go with Kyle's mixed fabric and thou shalt not eat shellfish shit again.
@Kee2Oz
10 жыл бұрын
There are some who have never heard or thought of these points before. Maybe they have, but now is the right time and place for them to listen with an open mind. Patience must be afforded to the brand-new skeptics out there.
@secludedmisanthrope6388
10 жыл бұрын
The fact that he makes these very valid points over and over isn't a negative thing. They are true, therefore need to be repeatedly pounded into the face of Christians so they stop using a pick and choose method about what parts of the bible they can say is true.
@MilitantAntiTheist
10 жыл бұрын
Secluded Misanthrope But he never brings up any of the more hideous of God's commands in the Bible, such as killing all men, women, male children and livestock in a town if you hear that one person living there doesn't worship him, or to stone your wife to death on her father's doorstep if it's discovered that she's not a virgin on your wedding night, or to force rape victims to marry their rapists if they were raped outside of city limits, and to stone the rape victim to death if she was raped within the city limits, since she could have screamed out for help, or to stone a rape victim to death regardless if they're married since they committed adultery.
@secludedmisanthrope6388
10 жыл бұрын
MilitantAntiTheist Actually he has brought those up multiple times and they were just as valid, but he uses the simple and commonly known ones because they make the same point with less nightmarish images for idiot christian's to to deny.
BANANA MAN XD
@EccoWolf1
10 жыл бұрын
you know sad thing really we only have another 20 years worth of bananas before they go extinct so he won't be able to make the banana argument anymore. The bananas we eat are actually clones that are highly vulnerable to disease.
@puncheex2
10 жыл бұрын
Ecco wolf Actually, bananas are no more or less vulnerable than anything else. Since the plants are all clones, though, they are all vulnerable to the same diseases, so if a disease happens to pop up, it has the potential of razing the entire world's crops. However, there are other forms of the plant which could take over, at some expense. The same is true for almost all of out cultivated food plants.
@EccoWolf1
10 жыл бұрын
puncheex2 If what you say is true about almost all cultivated food plants that kind of scares me. because it means that some disease could potentially swoop along and take out entire species of plants we eat reducing our food sources.
"theres male and female, except for a few snails" I laughed rly hard
"The bible tells us how God created the earth, it says God created the heavens and the earth." This statement only says THAT God created the earth, it doesn't explain the mechanisms he used, how his mechanizations work, or how he employs them. That is why the bible is not considered a scientific book. Even if any of it were true, it explains nothing.
Science makes predictions that can be quantified. Religious dogma has no such attribute. I can not rationally create a hypothesis from a idea that was not created from rational truths. You can rationally talk someone out of a idea they were not rationally talked into.
@mikeb512
9 жыл бұрын
Frustrating, but true! It seems the very concepts of rational thought, logic and reasoning are lost of people like Ray Comfort, unfortunately.
@BSmitty4rm8Fitty
9 жыл бұрын
Mike Bond Not really it's atheist who are totally irrational. A simple question atheist can't not answer, what have you ever seen in your life on earth that has created itself from nothing? If you have never seen that, then how is it rational for you to believe that the universe created itself? See atheist become upset because they say christians believe in something nobody has ever seen, yet atheist claim that the universe is self creating. Science only proves that the universe is quantifiable. If something is quantifiable that means there is a pattern. Whenever you see a pattern, there must be a train of though behind it. We see that at the human level (fashion trends, family issues, gangs, cultures, etc) There must be an intelligent mind behind it. Before you ask who created God, I say God is eternal. Let's be clear, the element of eternity is a fact. Either time/existence is eternal or there is a supreme being. Using the knowledge we observe here on earth, the fact that everything we see is birthed from something greater than itself, what is more rational? What is more rational, to believe we come from a superior being, or that some time ago, a single celled organism comes into existence on the right planet, the right time, at the perfect distance from the sun. This single celled organism wold later become self-aware, design for itself clothing, food, weaponry, technology, and educational systems all from the materials from the earth its on....Seems like a stretch to me
@BSmitty4rm8Fitty
9 жыл бұрын
1.) There is no physical evidence of particles doing that and that theory is contested often so that isn't going to work unless you can link me some proof. 2) Eternity is a fact. Nothingness is impossible. Time/existence is eternal. The question was at one point whether or not the universe was eternal. That is over because the Big Bang proves a beginning and the "heat death" is the ending. (Kinda strange the Bible says the Earth will be taken down by fire) 3)The new tree owes it existence from where it originated. The old tree, whether or not the animal consumed the tree, the fruit would have fallen off, degraded into the ground and probably sprung up a new plant depending on what exactly it is. Point is, the seed didn't create itself, nor did it just pop into existence 4.) Your last statement had nothing to do with facts, but was totally emotional. You saying if God can do that, then anything can happen. Seeing how you don't believe in God, then that means anything can't happen which means you just negated your statement. Who is it that you choose to follow? A world that constantly tells you that you don't measure up to their standards. The same world that advertises liquor during family programming yet it's responsible for over 90% of crimes committed. A world who has imprisoned and killed more of its inhabitants this past century than all of recorded history combined? You keep telling yourself religion is the problem or that God is some type of tyrant and the world has better to offer...It doesn't. Don't get me wrong, their is beauty and many wonderful things about it, but facts are facts
@ronaldjones5718
9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Smith Let's skip the fake, circular logic philosophical debate and get right down to it. What about your religion can be independently verified or reproduced? What advancement or concept has been achieved that could not have happened otherwise without your religion? You are the personification of scientifically illiterate. Science made modern life possible. Not religious bs.
@mikeb512
9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Smith"...then how is it rational for you to believe that the universe created itself?" Well first of all, the only people who believe that statement are Creationists like you, Ray Comfort, Ken Hamm, etc, in that you are grossly oversimplifying and misinterpreting the big bang theory into something nonsensical and illogical at it's most basic level. Whether this is on purpose to cast a better light on the Bibles mythical attempts to explain everything, or it is merely sheer ignorance because you truly don't know what you're talking about, I don't know. What I do know is that this is yet another classic example of those double standards that you religious types seem to be so fond of. You ask why we can believe as ridiculous as the entire universe being born out of nothing in a single instant, yet have no issues whatsoever believing essentially the same thing about a god. Where did he/she/it come from? Surely they could not simply flashed into existence from nowhere and out of nothing? That's not possible (and save your "god is eternal" bullshit, it's a cop out and you know it). I mean, it *literally* is not though, as opposed to the poorly understood summary that religious zealots so often parrot at us because they think they've really got a stumper for us atheists. I also have a really hard time understanding why Creationists insist on assuming that all things that exist simply *must* have a personified creator of some kind behind it. Why is this? To see a tree, or a river, or another galaxy and immediately claim with absolute certainty that you *know* who "made" it, or "put" it there is one of the flimsiest arguments I've ever heard, and that's saying something when it comes to this topic! Again, what is it that fuels your confidence in being completely right about this conclusion you've arrived at? One of the reasons I've heard on occasion is if, for example, I see a painting in a museum, I would have to know that the painting did not simply appear out of thin air, because we all *know* that paintings are created by someone. Of course, this can easily be seen as the logical conclusion that it is because just like everything else we believe in, there is scores of evidence backing this up? Why do we know a creator of some kind was involved? Because we've observed painters creating paintings before, and have never observed on simply appear from nowhere. So I ask you, why are you assuming some intelligent being has created everything? You certainly haven't observed a mountain range rise up from the ground...they were there long before you were born, and remain long after you die, so how is your assumed creator rational in any way?
This video came up on my KZread feed, happy to have found your channel, great content
great work mate, hope to tune in for more
The bible does not tell us how god created the Earth, it makes a statement 'in the beginning god created the heavens and the Earth'. That actually tells us nothing. I could say 'in the beginning man created nuclear fusion' does that tell you how nuclear fusion is created, no. Given that to all we understand creating a universe out of nothing is impossible please tell me how he did it.
Ray just proves over and over that he has no idea what the hell he's talking about.
Comfort has never faced Dawkins to my knowledge, never faced Hitchins, never faced Degrasse... The guys a fucking coward.
@GOBIAS.INDUSTRIES.
8 жыл бұрын
In Comfort's defense (which I can't believe I'm even saying) - I doubt any of those men you mentioned would want to face him. What a complete waste of time for such brilliance to share a stage with whatever the hell Ray Comfort is. I don't even think it's a fair fight when they take on someone semi-intelligent like William Lane Craig... them debating Comfort would be like me talking to a lizard - sure, it might look at me as if it's listening, but it lacks the brain capacity to understand a single thing I'm saying.
@Andrew-is7rs
8 жыл бұрын
+GOBIAS Industries Lol. A fair point! 👍🇬🇧
Every science book is a "knowledge" book, but not every "knowledge" book is a science book. That would be the first problem Ray ran into. The second, Ray doesn't even know what knowledge is.
Lol he went way off course trying to mock Ray Comfort was saying. He's saying that the Bible is believable not only because it's God's word, but that it has scientific accuracy that was impossible to know at that time. No other book has the Bible's accuracy which makes them obviously false. The Bible states that God hangs the Earth on nothing, while the Hindu holy book says the Earth is held up by Elephants... It's more than obvious that the Bible is true. There is no changing that... So shut the heck up
Ray Comfort....a legend in his own mind.
where was Neil deGrasse Tyson in all of this . . .
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Ray says the Bible "passes the Scientific Method". That is just precious! Ray is the poster child for what not to say. You just never know what is going to come out of his mouth once his brain sorta engages. Always entertaining. :33 seconds into this vid and Ray already has me rolling. Who writes his material? LOL!
I'd love to break bread with Ray. Preferably a petrified loaf on his head.
If God created everything, then how do you explain the embarrassment called Ray Comfort?
Why do you need both a huge ribbon microphone and a headset with a microphone? Do you mix the signals together or what's the point?
We have observed evolution. However, you were not there in the book of Genesis and only trust what this book claims.