Here’s the facts: if at the start of the year you say: we’re gonna get 91 points. Have stars emerge, but just be 1 point out of a playoff spot. I’d say it sucks but I’d take that not knowing how the season goes. But when they were 9 points in a playoff spot, comfortable, and then to completely choke like they did and lose a playoff spot nobody seemed to want near the end. Then yes this season is a failure because they were a playoff team and choked, miserably

That meltdown in March did them in

@Muz__27

3 ай бұрын

100%

@LouisWarren530

3 ай бұрын

@@Muz__27 I’d guarantee you’ll see this notification within next couple of weeks: The Detroit Red Wings have fired head coach Derek Lalonde

@edwardrichardson9543

3 ай бұрын

Bingo 👆🏽 and I said I’d take them seriously once March happened

@1awisniewski

3 ай бұрын

They had a bad record in December also.

Our season ended when Larkin got injured and the team went on that disaster of a losing streak which killed our season. We were up 9 points ahead in the wildcard spot! I know Larkin is very much the heart and soul of the team but the fact that none of the other veteran players could step up and lead the team to at least 3 or 4 wins during his absence is just not good enough. It looked like they were all waiting for the other guy to do something. Sometimes teams lose their captains for a while but most don't self implode like we did. I feel like Lalonde has to be looked at as well as he failed to adjust with Larkin's absence.

7 game losing streak after the trash patch

@user-rq1rx9oi8l

3 ай бұрын

1 point makes this a failure...these 2 are bovinewaste passers

@user-gw5wg2jf9c

2 ай бұрын

Larkin flopp compher don't work hard they collect disability #michigan #drw #lgrw #detroit

I agree with mike. There are no moral victories in hockey. Playoffs every year or bust. Top 50% make it. Come on, even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while🤷‍♂️

The 7-Game Losing Streak in March Cost the Red Wings a chance to the playoffs. That is why I am calling this season a Failure. Steve Yzerman should have made a Coaching Change during that Stretch. They need help on Defense and an Upgrade at Goalie for the Short-Term.

@tylerpatterson4787

3 ай бұрын

Also last week lost to capitals was costly

I think the Red Wings now know without any doubts where they are weakest and what they need to fix. I think they didn't make a move at the deadline because they wanted this team to sink or swim and evaluate the results. Stevie said he thought they were good enough to make it in, but that's just the public comments, I bet in truth they wanted to see how they would play and go from there. Now, the question is, will the Red Wings go get the players to fill those weaknesses and needs or not, and will they make adjustments to how they coach or not?

@larrylaferriere3075

3 ай бұрын

They don't have the cap space to do that.

WHEN YOUR PLAYERS DO MOT PLAY AS IF THEIR HEADS ARE ON FIRE WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THE PLAYOFFS!!!! - DUMP THE PLAYERS WHO DONT!! - THAT SIMPLE!!

@user-fm8iw3om4r

3 ай бұрын

Is that what the Lions did last year when they didn't make the playoffs? No its what propelled them to have the year they just did. Same expectation for the Wings. Next year is playoffs or bust as this year, despite the disappointment, was an improvement in my eyes. Now they know what it takes and what its like for those intense games. I think with defensive improvements they can get it done!

Everyone seems to get pissed when I say this, but missing the playoffs by 1 game and staying put at the deadline is a terrible, terrible look. There HAD to have been a SINGLE player that could've helped us win ONE more game.

This was without question the first season where I am disappointed. Last year I thought we were right where I thought we'd be. This year I genuinely believed we belonged in the playoffs and that 5-6 week period around March was infuriating. Redwings need more help on defense and another quality center behind Larkin. That's just where we're at now.

Habs fan: it's hard to express it but we knew that our playoff run would end basically.... at the beginning of the season lol 😅😅. But kinda sucks for you guys. You won back to back the last epic 2 games (the shootout looked like nobody gave a shit) and torts fucked it up for all you guy's. Not just you but Pittsburgh also. Listen i know the frustration about the wings and their 7 8 loss streak in march but like i said I'm a habs fan. I know what it is to be frustrated for my team. Wish you guys best of luck next season. Oh and Phoenix won which is a victory for us 🤣🤣🤣.

I agree with almost all of the comments saying the season was disappointing due to the fact we had control; HOWEVER I think everyone's goal at the beginning of the year was to be in the position we were in and I am comparing this to the Lions two years ago. Opposite in terms of Lions started bad finished strong but they really showed something made it to 8-8 and that propelled them to having the year they did this year. Wings two years ago were flirting with the playoffs as well and fell off the earth. This year, despite the horrid streak, they showed fight they did win some games down the stretch (albeit too few and too late) but I really think that will propel them into this next year. They know what it takes now and the different feel it has playing for your life. Get some better d-men in and work on that and forwards how to play D and I think next year we are talking about are 1st rd matchup. Go Wings!

We have bad contracts also: Holl, Chariot, and Copp. We have cap room to get a good goalie but that will only come via trade which requires picks and Stevie doesn't like to do that.

@larrylaferriere3075

3 ай бұрын

We have 14 million to sign 4 forwards and a goalie. 14 million isn't gonna go far.

@vmi4172

3 ай бұрын

SY has spent a ridiculous amount of money on 3rd liners and crappy old dmen. Copp-JT-Ras should be our 3rd line next year (none of them belong on the 2nd) and that may be the most expensive 3rd line in the history of the NHL. Thats $14M right there that we can spend on 1 or 2 studs! Throw in Holl who gets paid to sit home and watch the games and Chariot who sucks most the time and thats like $23M. Thats $23M for guys that can be easily replaced with Berg-Kasper-Soder-Johansson-Wallinder. As much as we all love Stevie these moves were mind boggling to me and totally unnecessary from the start!

Ken Holland left absolutely nothing when he left. He had 64 draft picks and out of those picks 1 guy became a ligit nhl star and that's larkin. Steve yserman came in and said we have to completely start from nothing and build through draft. If you look at the progress of the red wings the team has gotten better and better each season but building from the draft does not happen in just a couple years. These kids get drafted than go to their farm teams to develop before they actually become a ligit nhl player. Its rare that draft picks just hop straight to the league and become productive pros let alone super stars. If you followed the lightning he had to do the same thing and he became the greatest drafter in nhl history. One of the major things he had been able to do in Tampa is draft 2 goalies that became studs. One has become one of the greats in goaltending. That has yet to happen in Detroit but yserman is on pace to have this team ready for bigger things and i really believe next season will be the breakout playoff season and than from there deep playoff runs. When he left tampa they had all his draft picks come out of the farm leagues and win cups. I just watch a whole video about yserman and the actual numbers and statistics and he is right on pace to have the wings blow up like tampa did. It looks similar and he just needs that goalie to help put it over the top. I dont care what people think. They dont pay attention to the things i just laid out they only pay attention to win for me now! They dont understand what ut means to rebuild through the draft. That does not happen over night and it takes more time than an nfl or nba team. Hockey is different. These kids are not all just instant nhl stars they have to grow and develop. If there was zero progress than thats one thing but the chart shows a steady climb in stats since stevey y took over. This year was the start of culture building and learning how to win as a team. Next year will be a playoff team. Yserman is a genius at finding talent in drafting but the players have to be developed right and it takes time. They are right on schedule for big things . It took jim Harbaugh 6 years to get the program fixed and get his first guys he recruited to start being upper classmen building team culture. They didn't come in as a group of freshmen and just start a culture of winning no it has to go through progression and when his first couple recruiting classes finally became his upper classmen they got things done. I truly believe this will happen for the wings

What if they did a play-in for the NHL? Wouldn’t that be more exciting?

This team needs a defense bad!

Be honest could not care less the wings made the playoffs or not reason they’re not good enough to do anything if they got in it anyway learning lesson here. You saw what they did down the stretch with the players they have dump the shitty ones.

This team has improved every year under Yzerman. It's still a failure considering the collapse yet a success with the continued growth. Raymond grew. Larking grew. Edvidsson grew. Next year is pkayoffs or bust.

I want them to make the playoffs BAD, but was torn about this year as they were so inconsistent and really fell apart in March. Kudos for the way they finished. They do have a few bad contracts and need to deal with that to open some cap space to get some of our restricted free agents signed. Ghost was AWESOME and I hope SY gets him resigned. If we can get our goals against down and improve our D, we could make it next year. LGRW!

It suck but there are a lot of positives this season. I think we found our core of players to build around for one. Fire the coach, get a goalie and a couple other key pieces and the wings can make a serious run next year. If not Stevie has to go

A significant number of small to mid-level moves need to be made. They only had 2 wins all year where the goalie “stole” a game. Holl, Fabbri, Chiarot, Husso need to be moved. You have Berggren and this year’s first to help facilitate.

Next season is year 5 of the Yzerman era. I wish people would get it right. He was hired in 2019 after the season was over, Therefore he had 4 full seasons here

@brian1112

3 ай бұрын

Nope. Year one: April 2019 to April 2020 (2019-20 season). Year 2: April 2020 to April 2021 (2020-21 season). Year 3: April 2021 to April 2022 (2021-22 season). Year 4: April 2022 to April 2023 (2022-23 season). Year 5: April 2023 to April 2024 (2023-24 season). Year 6 starts on April 19, 2024 and will be the 2024-25 season (the 6th season of his tenure).

@xeph-d9782

3 ай бұрын

​@brian1112 You're right. I'm not sure how I missed a year whenever I counted. Maybe it was the covid year that threw it off.

Evindson looks legit and Raymond could easily score 40 next year if they add an offensive minded defensive

This team should’ve made the playoffs, although they made progress. There’s no success without heartbreak, but they should have taken that WC2 spot having only needed a measly point and having plenty of opportunities throughout the season to take candy from a baby (Arizona!!!). Instead, the team with a worse record and a worse goal differential took that spot from the Red Wings.

I think they go backwards next season

Lalonde is the biggest issue on this team. How do you not call a timeout after giving up two shorthanded goals against San Jose in December then gove up the lead and eventually lose against one if the worst teams in the NHL. He had no clue how to end the losing streak and simply made no adjustments when they were warranted. He is inexperienced and it showed so bad this year and it cost this team in the long run. As for Larkin being out what about the problems they were having in December and he was in. This wasn't a case of no talent or one guy not on the ice. This was a case of bad coaching and Lalonde needs to go. Biggest issue is who do you hire? I want an experienced head coach no more AHL experiments or unproven assistants. We need to get our 2024 version of Jaques Demers and start the winning ways again.

It doesnt matter how you get to 91 points. You are still at 91 points. There were plenty of games the wings had no business winning which could have gone the other way. Im not saying that we should not still be disappointed, but when you say that a 91 points season were you are fighting until the end would be a success, only to completely change your narrative for the sake of sounding different, is in my opinion idiotic. Whatever, I mean I guess they need something to talk about.

Lalonde is coming back,he would be fired by now if he wasnt

Mike right on the money with Lindgren. That horrible goal differential is on Kuemper.

I’m old enough to remember the shows at the beginning of the season when Mike was saying if they just miss out on playoffs he wouldn’t freak out

Jimmy comes out of retirement💪

They must re-sign Patrick Kane

This is such an old-school black & white take. Too caught up in the here and now. Them making or missing the playoffs will have zero impact on this team’s future. They were going to lose in the first round anyway.

Booooo, my guy. Not a bot thing. Yeah, they lost a lot, bad. They lost the playoffs before the last game, but they got nuts like no other team in this city besides the Lions. Hate this shit,. Btw, Larkin was about to cry because everything you said, you right. But he is clearly not over the miscarrage. Let's not forget or make jokes about the ONE team we all oughta be proud of. All I'm gonna say.

What a delusional clown, Yzerman can only be judged when we see what the results of his prospects he drafted become. Anyone who expects anything out of this lineup is setting themselves up for disappointment Maata holl chiarot gost petry on defence ... it’s a miracle we got 91 points

Fire Lalonde

GOALS AGAINST ARE NOT ALWAYS ON THE GOALIE!!! - Holy 💩💩💩 when 90% of the Games you giving up more shots than the opponent!! WHAT DO YOU WANT!?

“Breaks” and “Luck” are parts of the game, so stop that bullshit. Otherwise, yes. The Wings fucked themselves this spring. Keep Ghost and give Kane a 2 year deal for $5 mil a year. He’ll take it. Free Agency is the big one. Cossa is not ready, Reimer is gone, Lyon is not a clear #1. Sign a good goalie and a couple D-men.

Just too funny. My Caps traded everyone they could at the deadline and only cared about cap space and draft picks and make it in over Det and Pitt who went all in last summer lol. We will be dispatched quickly but for the first time in 3 years we have a bright and interesting future. When year started we expected a top 5 pick

@WapitalismandWreedom

3 ай бұрын

the red wings went all in where? lmao caps have a bright future? ovechkin at 38 years old he's still your top scorer

@marcmich0707

3 ай бұрын

Uhh, please do explain how the Red Wings went "all in"?

Utter collapse... down the stretch. Sign Raymond to 3-4 year deal, Sign Mo tighten the blue line... find a goalie for now.. (ours don't cut it) inconsistent goaltending, defensive and offensive play. Of which offensively DeBrincat was a goose egg as well... 11 points better but still not good enough.. HC will still be here (sadly) but he'll at least finish his term, hopefully he finishes his contract and leaves quicker than he came! #GoWings. #RantOver

That waste management was the end 😂

PATHETIC way to clinch the playoff capitals. What a bunch of participation trophy lucky bums lol. If only the wings didn’t blow ONE of those games in that horrid stretch. My passion for hockey is at an all time low rn. Capitals…. It’s almost shameless how this made it. We NEED a goaltender.

Tired of the negativity. Yeah it sucks, they crapped the bed, and the reason they didn’t make it was their own doing. But man they took strides. They’re gonna come back next year with something to prove, let’s wait until then for the doom and gloom guys

I'm gonna be pissed if the Wings don't have a new head coach next year. Lalonde needed to be fired during the first losing streak If they don't make the playoffs next year, it's time to find a new GM

The Red Wings performed as they were expected to if you look at their record they are a 500 team 82 games played 41 wins there are 500 team and you got a 500 team result. They’ve taken a lot of steps towards their future this season, but to act like they were a guaranteed locked in playoff team was delusional from the get-go. Their expectations were to compete for a playoff spot at the end of the season and they played all season like a 500 team mostly 4-5 game winning streaks with seven game losing streaks off and on

Larkin is not a leader has a glass jaw and lost any edge he may have ever had getting ko'ed. Lalonde starting Lyon over and over gave the team no confidence. Yzerman giving up on Kostin for a minor leaguer and keeping Holl. Failures abound.

jake walman????

Got to Sign Cain if he still wants to play

@mitchella7160

3 ай бұрын

Cain? My god you don’t even watch spelling KANE’S name like that.

@Muz__27

3 ай бұрын

@@mitchella7160 don't worry, I'm sure Iserman will sign him for next year. 😂

@Ryouhana7

3 ай бұрын

@@Muz__27nah man, Lynnstrom will not allow that.

The season was a failure. If a 100 point forward isn’t added to the roster, the same thing next year will be above expectations.

@DONWASABIJUAN

3 ай бұрын

Pretty hyperbolic take and reeks of a fair weather fan. This team massively outperformed what they were supposed to do this year. Lucas Raymond took massive steps forward and has potential to be that 100 point guy.

@ezioaltairac

3 ай бұрын

@@DONWASABIJUAN Having high standards for a team with the resources and cache that the Wings have is not being fair weather. Raymond is certainly on the NK path, but this team should not be fighting towards the end to make the playoffs. It barely worked from 2012-16 when they still had the streak. Go tell Buffalo fans that they massively outperformed expectations last year and see what they say.

@DirtyDLions685

3 ай бұрын

9 (maybe 10) players in the entire league scored 100 points this year. None of those players will be moved from their respective teams. And since the Wings got screwed in the draft lottery multiple times, Lucas Raymond is the closest you’re gonna get when you pick 4th overall or later in the draft, excluding outliers. How do you suggest they just “go out and add a 100 point forward”?

@ezioaltairac

3 ай бұрын

@@DirtyDLions685 the OG comment was moreso how the roster as constructed doesn’t lend itself well to a higher Pythagorean projection for next year, barring a major change. Aside from Raymond, Larkin, and DeBrincat (who has been prone to have cold months), the next highest rated player is Kane. Kane himself has hinted that he’s going to try the market next season, and if he leaves, it will be even more difficult to get to 90 points next season. More so, he’s older and the first to have successfully come back from the hip resurfacing procedure, and relying on him to have the same impact he did next season isn’t a winning approach.

@richyd4762

3 ай бұрын

Only a bootlicker would say this season was successful

Theyve improved there point total the past 3 years season wasnt a failure they showed progress

@moose800

3 ай бұрын

Failing is failing. No need to sugar coat it

Tell me you are a casual without telling me you are casual Velenti. 😂 literally only respect his opinion on football because he actually knows what he talking about when it comes to that. But hockey? Dude is an asshat when it comes to hockey in my personal opinion.

@jasondeslatte7611

3 ай бұрын

tell me one thing he said that wasnt true

Stick to football takes, y’all. You’re out of touch.

I know all about the missed chances, but for those who say that losing to Arizona means they’re not worthy to make it in, Washington also went 0-2 against them, 11-2 goal differential

This team doesn't have the cap space to do much. After Seider and Raymond's extensions we may have at most 14 million. That doesn't include extending Veleno which he shouldn't be. 14 million to sign 4 forwards and a goalie. How far is 14 million gonna go. If they won't play the prospects, this team is gonna be more of the same next year.