Have you tried either the Rapsodo or the Garmin R10? If so what were your thoughts?

@Turfwrangler25

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you guys did this! Not sure how many people asked but I know I did and now have my answers on what to get!! Love you guys!! The R10 is impossible to find :/ and like the features but will go with the Rapsodo!!!!

@Lluren1

2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the Garmin R10, i can't find one anywhere ahah

@dabdias

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned both, and I found the R10 so much easier to use than the MLM. Moreover, the R10 allows you to play, which I found to be a great way to practice (even after accounting for R10’s inaccurate ball trajectory projections). I found the MLM to be extremely basic and limited and Rapsodo never really invested in making their software more useful with more features. I now have the Mevo+ with pro package, which is much more accurate than the R10, but I miss the R10’s games (for an iPhone, the basic graphics are much easier to use than the complex graphics of E6 connect). Let me just say that some of the R10’s misreads could be due to distance from ball or from the surface where it was located not being perfectly flat.

@TomasBruzzo

Жыл бұрын

I have both. The battery of my phone last waaaay longer with the R10. That's why I stopped using the Rapsodo. The %s are not that critical to my level of play (15hcp). Plus the R10 can be used at home with my iPad and get a better setup

@dwayneendicott3881

Жыл бұрын

The major thing against the Rapsodo, they do not read hard foam balls.

Great video! Glad to see you guys back outside in ny/nj as the weather slowly warms up!

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Great to be back outdoors here in NJ 🙌🏼

Thanks Guys ! Amazing that us regular folks have a great couple options !

Great video guys, love it your normal guys enjoying fun. Keep up the great vids

Just picked up the Rapsodo. Great test, guys. Thanks!

This was a great video, thank you so much as I am trying to decide between the two.

Exactly the review I was looking for guys. Pitting them against the GC Quad for numbers was perfect. They both look good and have nice features. All depends on how much you want out of it. Thanks!

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Appreciate it

Just saw the Utube video two days ago. Tried it for the first time tonight. I'll be buying one when I return home in two days!😎

Garmin launch angle was consistent, could it have been levelled better perhaps? I would like to see the garmin spin numbers which are calculated compared against the actual GC quad numbers.

This video was amazing guys. I was torn between the 2 options here. I ended up going w the R10

I bought the Rapsodo last year well before the R10 was available and recently got the R10 - for me R10 all the way. Ridiculously easy to set up, loads more useful data points (understanding that some are calculated rather than empirically measured....) The Garmin just gives you more and i haven't even got into the sim courses and games etc.....for me.....Apporach R10

@Golficity

Жыл бұрын

We’re going to compare the two in an upcoming video.

I wonder if the rapsodo launch angle would be off more the higher the ball is launched, the balls launched with the garmin were 4 to 5 degrees higher. Should have had the same guy hitting all the shots!

Thanks for this test!

Another great video guys

Solid straight forward test!!!! MLM the winner....and the only one available!!!!

Great video. Thanks for doing it. Talked to Garmin and they said if I place my R10 about 2" above the ball sticking level, Launch Angles gets better. Maybe another test with elevated R10?

Garmin R10 has been sold out everywhere for months.. I wanted one so bad but I ended up buying a voice caddie that works mint !

It would be cool if you would compare against, driver and wedge. Driver because I’ve read the smaller units seem to have issues with that club. Plus spin rates are crucial. Thanks

Great looking swings there, guys.

I just bought the Rapsodo MLM. I absolutely love it so far. I have used the net mode in my back yard and after my first round I was so much more confident on my approach shots. I dropped 5 shots hitting more greens and honestly dropped a few from an earlier round by not putting as well. I still went from 82 to a 77. The confidence of having a 160 yard par 3 and knowing that is a smooth 8 iron vs thinking maybe I need a 7 or 8 or 9 and guessing was huge behind the ball. Worth the $400. (Sucks the sale is over from father's day and it's $500 again) But I haven't been in the 70s in a long long time. This was the big change

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!!!!

@burno7799

2 жыл бұрын

@@Golficity thanks for the info. It's greatly appreciated. I love your channel. I feel like it's generally me out there except it's you guys and I'm from Bucks County PA not Jersey! LOL sending positive vibes to you guys!

I bought a Rapsodo and maybe I had a bad copy but I found it really inaccurate for my mid handicap swing speeds. I took it to the range on 3 different occasions and used measured range flags and a range finder to verify carry and found the Rapsodo pretty consistently to be 10 yards off. I ended up sending it back.

I don't mind if my carry distance is a few yards off, but to improve I need L and R distance to be accurate. I think I am going to go with the R10 for winter indoor use due to the courses, games, range.

Did you update the Garmin Firmware and calibrate it before the video? Great video on the 2 products I have been looking at hard. Thanks...

Great comparison guys! Rhapsodo giveaway? 😝

hi lovely video.very logical way of comparison

As a new launch monitor player, Golf Boy is very interesting. The putter in particular is excellent.

Nice test. Instructive. Much appreciated. But... you mentioned nothing about the R10's ability to give feedback re club face angle, club path, and angle of attack. Pretty important capability.

I use the garmin and i find it pretty accurate on pure straight shots. When going off line even a little it seems far less accurate. In this test i noticed the second set of shots were slightly off line ( misses i would love to have btw!) and i wonder if that accounts for some of the variation.

I have the unit and I’m not disappointed at all

I had a R10 and noticed mainly that it said I sliced a ball when I could see that it drew, I also noticed that the same happened with the R10 in this demo, I returned mine due to its inaccuracies.

2 questions here. I see someone else talking about the leveling of the garmin. it was consistently getting the wrong angle so to me either its a leveling thing or a calibration that one of the sensors need calibrated.. also from what i can see you have your control launch monitor to the side of you ball but where are the other two? are they behind you? is that optimal? i havent looked up how youre supposed to set these monitors up but i would assume that a side angle would be best (actually ignore that last part just did some quick research lol but was it aligned properly?)

The thing not mentioned is that the Rhapsodo only works if you have a phone and specifically an iPhone/Pad. If you are not a fanboy then the extra cost just to be usable needs to be factored. Anyone who is not a pro who is concerned about 3 yards (I know the accuracy in Rhapsodo is awesome) should probably be thinking about a career change. Spin is the one thing you guys didn't mention but I think is an important measurement.

@burno7799

2 жыл бұрын

I had to buy an iPad to use this. I don't use any apple products so that was a big cost. Not gonna lie.

I have the Rapsodo and will be upgrading to the R10. The Rapsodo has been great for practicing, although sometimes it’s a bit finicky in the setup. But I want to setup an indoor simulator and the R10, from a cost perspective, delivers everything I’ll need. But you can’t beat the Rapsodo for portability and driving range practice. And I got mine used for less than $200. Thanks for this review!

I have the Mevo and it is good as far as distance but spin numbers are off and once I get to longer clubs and faster speeds I see much bigger disparity between what is displayed and what is actually seen

I have an Android and love the R10. I'd be curious if you would do this again after the last R10 software update. Like the simulator options, and that it reads the distance to me. I can hit it onto a net easily as well and the Rapsodo had to have a much newer iPad to use this net feature.

Can you do a Rapsodo vs GC Quad into a net? Would like to see how accurate the Rapsodo is indoors with different clubs. Use PW, 5i, Wood/hybrid, Driver.

Great video, thanks! Have you compared these to the Mevo+? I realize it is a much higher priced unit, but just curious.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

We haven’t but we may compare MEVO+ to a same prices Skytrak 😎

Curious how they would compare hitting into a net

I’ll take either of them off your hands lol but I think I’d like the feature of the sim in the garmin as I’d only really use it in winter indoors to play Great video tho👏👏

I think something to consider is the garmin seemed to underestimate the carry distance consistently, which isn’t a bad thing in my opinion since amateurs (target market) tend to be short rather than long. I think the benefit of some club data with the garmin also gives you some feedback as to how you are striking the ball. Still the more complete option imo

Bought the Rapsodo last year, used it for a month and returned it. Maybe it was a bad unit, but the thing was the most unreliable device I had ever owned probably. Missed half the shots. And I was very particular with setting it up making sure it was level, proper distance back, etc. Was a big let down as I was super excited to have such a device but I just couldn't justify the price with the inconsistent data I was getting. Would love to try the R10 out. Have watched a few videos with people using it with awesome golf as a sim setup. Could be a super budget sim with just a net, the R10 and an ipad.

What if you wanted to take it on the course and track every shot. Which one would you use tor that?

Did they calibrate and level each device before test?

THANK YOU SOO MUCH FOR DOING THIS!!!!! IF YOU ASK YOU SHAL RECEIVE!!

Like the comparison but I want the r10 fo a golf simulator.A few yards carry doesn’t make that much difference to me.

How accurate is the GC Quad to real carry distance?

I wanted the Rapsodo at one point becauseo of the price differences but the main deciding factor for me is that Rapsodo is an iOS devices only. I'm an Android guy so it's going to be incompatible for me.

Gotta do short pitch shots, mid iron and then driver.

Compare it to the PRGR?

Does the rapsodo track spin?

I like the idea using a robot to swing for consistency and see which monitor gets the same reading every time.

This was great, guys. Seeing how these cheaper units compare to one of the best on the market is a really cool idea. Might have to seriously look into a Garmin for range use :D

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I stopped carrying my 5 iron for the carry differences you guys showed here. I’d be interested to see if the cheaper devices are consistently reading high or low - as long as they are, they are worthwhile. If they read high and then low, they aren’t much use.

@ashwinkumar675

2 жыл бұрын

THIS!!

I've used the rapsodo during the summer and as soon as my phone overheated because of sunlight the rapsodo quit working...(which happened surprisingly fast in NC). So I would be interested to see how the compare when sunlight and heat is a factor to phones shutting down?? Y'all are great and love the content

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

We’ve been using the Rapsodo for a while and haven’t had it overheat on us yet. But we’ll keep an eye out for it. 👊🏼

@Huddy_gamer002

2 жыл бұрын

@@Golficity I've used a buddies last year outside and it went on me three in an hour. Jut wondering if garmin would last longer

Does anyone know if there’s gonna be an r11?

I do love the absolute disregard for the scientific method by switching players from one device to another

@nathytaffy

2 жыл бұрын

I get where you’re coming from but since they are just testing the two devices against the gc quad the player doesn’t matter. The only thing that is important is if the numbers on the two cheaper launch monitors are close to the gc quad numbers.

@IcePlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathytaffy But if one of them delivered the club in a way that either monitor struggled with, only one would have that disadvantage

@nathytaffy

2 жыл бұрын

@@IcePlays Like i said i get where you’re coming from, and i agree that the absolute best way to do it would be the same golfer but i think that’s only touching on small aspects of the products. The main reason for the video was to compare them to the gc quad and it got the point across that either of the monitors are viable products for people to use.

@donsloan2075

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's pretty simple - eliminate inconsistencies and any questions by using the same golfer for both.

@danielaltmyer7962

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathytaffy they declared a winner between the garmin and the other one….. they were comparing the two, using the quad as the constant…..

Ive been wanting to see how accurate, you guys are the shiz

How accurate are both into a net?

Could the Garmin R10 angle at set up be off a hair? That could effect the reading of launch angle.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Setup can be tough sometimes with these small launch monitors but in this test we had them both on a perfectly flat surface. So doubtful setup would have caused any errors in reading.

@jjschafe11

2 жыл бұрын

@@Golficity Flat doesn't equal level. It's a point for the Rapsodo either way since it didn't require crazy setup equipment, but I would be interested to see a bubble level stand used with the R10 and then a retest.

These seem close enough to say buy the one you like and has the features you want. The fact that both are within 2-5% of a $20,000 launch monitor is insane. One being 1% off from the other seems minor at that point.

Would have loved to see a few other clubs to see how they stack up across the bag.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Adam. We may do a wider test at some point but for this video we wanted to keep the test simple and straightforward.

@clints8888

2 жыл бұрын

yeah a bit silly to go to the trouble of doing the test and maybe forgot to use driver or 3 wood?..

Is rapsodo still apple only??

I had the rapsodo and sold it. It was finicky for me and was not worth it inside on a net. The r10 also lets you play. I’ll take that difference all day. I think that’s a major difference actually. I live in the northeast and being able to visualize a shot inside in the winter is so much better. I also didn’t like I had to leave my phone on the rapsodo. It also pitched the club recognition software that never actually worked. R10 all day.

Just curious was the Garmin R10 unit up to date as well as the app itself.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Josh, yes we were using the latest version of the app/device for this test.

@onsloughtgolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@Golficity Nice I am a R10 owner and you see a lot of people complain that it’s inconsistent. It was nice to see the comparison.

Can I buy the garmin off you??

I'm interested in seeing this exact same test but indoors. That's where I hear these MLM's have a hard time with accuracy.

If you're using these at the range & have an average or lower swing speed, you'll get inaccurate readings because range balls are harder than normal balls so your distances likely aren't true readings because you can't compress the range balls as much. You can count on 15-20 yards less carry distance even with a good strike. Spin numbers will likely be off as well. This will happen whether your monitor was $100 or $50,000. I don't use a monitor but I can still tell the difference between range ball distances & the balls I use to play.

right left bias?

Love my Rapsodo, but it becomes unusable in the heat because it relies on your phone.

setting up the devices can vary the results. its a factor not considered, the human factor. I would imagine the first statistic to be flawed from an unlevel setup is launch angle where the R10 got worse marks. I'm sure both are wonderful units though.

@ 7:18, your actual shot went right, but Garmin went left. The other 4 Garmin test shots seem to match reality. I know 5 test shots is a tiny sample, but that's being wrong 20% of the time about left/right direction!

Does the rapsodo finally have the android compatibility?

@lemoneleven2179

2 жыл бұрын

I would also like to know. This was my only reason for not buying cant believe it was only available for ios, who even uses that bullshit anyway

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the Rapsodo is iOS compatible only.

where is the other guy?

However - the R10 has more data points - such as Path etc

Was the garmin updated, or strait out of the box? Update showed huge improvmets.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

Not updated. This was shot a while ago before the update

Is the Rapsodo compatible with android yet? 🤔

@MaFaKeys

2 жыл бұрын

keep dreaming….been waiting for almost 2 years now.

Best Buy has garmin r10 for 499

... its easier for a rhapsodo to be level as the base of the device is less service area... that being said the R10 kicks the socks off a rapsodo just for the simulator factor alone!!!!!

R10 any day as distances don’t matter too much. I’d purely take it because of the Sim features it has.

One major drawback of the Rapsodo is you have to be using an Apple product. Whereas the R10 works with Android, Apple and Microsoft.

@Golficity

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure Android is on the way for them. But yes, only iOS right now

@aarona5269

2 жыл бұрын

@@Golficity I reached out to the company about this in the summer of 2021. If Android was coming I suspect they'd have it out by now considering their product has been available since 2019. Good product but shortsighted to only target apple users.

Just a little over the top

Don’t matter if you can’t find the Garmin till 2026

Rapsodo is trash. Used to have one. Complete garbage.

Terrible test. Only 5 shots, with one club. And you compared with 2 different people that have a pretty large distance difference. Obviously the error margin would get wider the longer the shot travels. Hope nobody makes a decision off this video

@rhiley36

Жыл бұрын

yeah, the driver is where both drop off kind of bad more so the r10 i believe, but garmin has put out updates that are making it better at it every month

Forgot to mention the rapsodo needs a $1000 cell phone to make it work

A major feature I think potentially sets this apart from others is it’s accuracy with what Rapsodo calls “launch direction” - initial direction (right, left, straight) that the ball starts relative to the target line. I see that verbiage on their website but never hear anyone talking about it, what was your experience or anyone that has one have a comment?

Rapsodo cheaper? Yeah right, you need an iphone to run with rapsodo. NOT cheaper. Wake up and smellnthe maxwell house.peeps.

I think something to consider is the garmin seemed to underestimate the carry distance consistently, which isn’t a bad thing in my opinion since amateurs (target market) tend to be short rather than long. I think the benefit of some club data with the garmin also gives you some feedback as to how you are striking the ball. Still the more complete option imo