I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it in the comments but I'd strongly suggest you add an autoblock to your system. You just need a locking carabiner and a loop to make a prusik or similar. There are a couple ways to do it and you can find them online. The idea is that if you lose control of the rope the autoblock stops you!

@thegraffitiwriterknowsas6821

2 жыл бұрын

Aren’t auto lock and prusik 2 different things? If so which one would you recommend

@imaphxaznative

Жыл бұрын

​@@thegraffitiwriterknowsas6821 an auto block/lock could be a prusick or a michoacan or a distel or any other friction hitch that is connected to you and the rope and must be tended all the way down so if you lose control of your descent device the autolock aka 3rd hand stops your fall.

I bought a book when I was a kid that showed how to make a harness out of only rope, and I used padlocks for carabiners and as a figure 8. God knows how I'm alive. 😂

@PrepperAction

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That’s incredible. 😁

@bvrcavalera2786

3 жыл бұрын

@@PrepperAction Crazy more like. It did work though. Interesting to see how its done properly. Nice video. 👌

@PrepperAction

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@EthanAdey

2 жыл бұрын

Padlocks 😂 good idea

@EthanAdey

2 жыл бұрын

@Joas Vlott 😂👍

a lot more gear than was used at jungle warfare school in the early 80's. you were issued twice your height of dynamic rope and one nonlocking carabiner. you made your own swiss seat or went ranger style (a bite of your rope between the legs the trailing ends came around to the front making a bend through said bite in opposing directions went around you back to the front finishing with a square knot and a half hitch for both ends) in about as much time as it took to tie your boots. then without question or hesitation took two turns of rope around your carabiner clipped it to your seat with the gate side away from your breaking side hip and carried out your orders "getting the fk off his rock" as fast as you could with a loud and thunderous AIRBORNE!!

@m3528i

3 жыл бұрын

We got green webbing for a sling at least.

@hopet201

Жыл бұрын

Where was this??

I used to rappel a bit in my teens and 20s getting ready to start getting out again and this is the only video I have seen where someone did it the way I was taught. There seems to be a gazillion new gadgets out there that I have to look into.

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I rappel as much as I would like and this was the way I was taught as well. There are a lot of devices out there I might try, but I like to keep it simple.

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

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@RagedContinuum

5 жыл бұрын

@@davariyaamitkumar1003 haha no freaking way - alpine butterfly with a retrieval line will do it without the kamikaze part happening

Now this is military style! Great job!

I'll preface this by saying I dont climb so have no knowledge on the subject but... would you not want a prussick or something as a backup? Seems like there is redundancy in the anchor but not on your end of the rope! Maybe I'm missing something.

Another great video. Thank you for sharing.

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you and I may do another video here soon on rappelling, teaching with a few more closer views on specific techniques.

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

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A figure 8 end loop would be a more appropriate anchor knot to tie than a bowline. A bowline is acceptable for scenarios where time is critical, or the ability to easily tie the knot one handed is necessary. For any other scenario I would always reccomend a figure 8 knot. It is not an issue of security of the knot in as much as it is a matter of maintaining strength of the cordage.

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

+Chris Miller I will try out the figure 8 knot next time I repel, I learned from former Military guys that rely on the speed of tying the bowline knot and that it can be un-tied very quickly.

Wow thanks I'm 10 and I'm trying it for the first time u helped me out alot

@dustinblanchard900

6 жыл бұрын

Lool

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

Very Useful KNOT for SOLO CLIMBER kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmpnmNysqty9ktI.html

Nice, video. Good refresher for my skills. City of Miami Firefighter.

Do usally put the line around your back? Been awhile i remember it coming straight out to the right side from my figure 8

Great video, I learned how to rappel when I was in college. I loved it. That 1st step backward off the rock is the hardest.

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s pretty fun, and that moment you lean back and step down the rockface can give you butterflies.

Did anyone else notice his harness isn't double backed? I saw two pieces of metal showing when just one should.

Hey @prepper action, make sure you use the same carabiners when you connect the rope to your anchor. Using two different carabiners can put undue stress on one of your carabiner, causing it to fail. If it fails bad enough, it could inflict damage on another the carabiner next to it bad enough to hamper that carabiners performance. It's not too crucial to have the same carabiners connected to the anchor itself, but it is definitely necessary to use the same carabiners anytime you're doubling up carabiners on a rope!

@lifeontheriver

7 жыл бұрын

+Prepper Action

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

+Roman Bernal Good point. Also what I did not cover in this video is the importance of inspecting gear before and after use, to identify any potential future critical fail.

Thanks for the video! Where did you get the straps in your redundancy system shown at 3:52? What are the straps called?

@PrepperAction

5 жыл бұрын

Davis Mauldin They are called slings, or runners, some call them webbing, they have a few different uses, I got mine at Rei.com

@rainmakerat92

5 жыл бұрын

@@PrepperAction Thanks!

I'd like to comment that you should ALWAYS wear leather gloves when rappelling like this. The heat buildup can be rapid and can burn you (friction or rapel device) causing you to "reflex reaction" let go. No break hand = rapid descent into an early grave !! Also I'd also like to point out that if you rappel fast the belay device (8) gets really hot and it can actually melt your rope. Take it slow and let the device cool down if you're doing long rappels 😀

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

+pentachronic Thanks, definitely good advice!

@pentachronic

7 жыл бұрын

FYI, the rope melting will only melt the sheath but that is enough to damage your rope and cause you have to buy a new one (the rope integrity is OK but it's now core-shot which means retire the rope time!). Sucks if it's in the middle !!

@austingillem5312

6 жыл бұрын

That’s why you always want to use an autoblock (some kind of friction hitch: prussik, kleimheist, or autoblock hitch) to back up your rappel. And for most rappelling, a climbing belay device like an ATC will work as good, or better than a figure 8.

@KALUPO78

4 жыл бұрын

Its a walking Repel. Almost ZERO build up.

@teamcrooks6913

4 жыл бұрын

What he said. **GriN** Also, generally you want the gate of the carabiner up so you can see it and the lay of the line is on the shank side, not the gate side.

Almost 10,000 views ! Thanks everyone, I will have more videos of this subject soon, stay tuned!

@E3CB

8 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks!

@miracle1773

7 жыл бұрын

70,000 now, WOW!

@patriciamauricio7741

7 жыл бұрын

100,000 plus now, great job!

@daytona453201

5 жыл бұрын

Can i reppell 250 ft with a alluminum figure 8 or will it get so hot it will char the rope?

@PrepperAction

5 жыл бұрын

I have personally not repelled that kind of distance before, only 40-75 ft, so I couldn’t tell you.

Does anyone on here know if the rescue 8 will pass a knot 🪢through it? I'm sure it depends on how big the knot is but the hole is much larger than the figure of 8 I have. Personally I prefer a mùnter hitch on a carabiner for more rope on rope friction for a more controlled descent.

You need to use static rope to climb or repel right? Not dynamic lines? Or do I have that backwards

@PrepperAction

5 жыл бұрын

A static rope is better for rappelling because it's easier to pull and because it has less wear from rappelling over edges, etc., but dynamic ropes can be and are often used for rappelling. You don't want to climb with a static rope though, because as mentioned it doesn't stretch to absorb shock.

My first and last reppel I did the safety person dropped me about 6-8 feet before I got caught about 40 foot off the ground...it was a training tower(70 foot) also was the First, and LAST time.

I am curious to see what you anchored into. Also, how did you get your "anchoring system" back? I assume you climbed back up and then climbed back down?

@lux6896

4 жыл бұрын

You can see metal anchors in the rock in the background at 3:50 I believe.

Nice video....Forgot your rope the first time you climbed up there huh!

Do you have another video, showing in more detail you implementing a anchor system with your sling backup system as well?.. Cheers

@PrepperAction

Жыл бұрын

I do not.

There is a lot of redundancy, which is great, but ultimately if your right hand lets go of the rope there is no backup, right? Isn’t that a concern? Wouldn’t you want some friction knot tied from your harness to the main line somehow?

@PrepperAction

4 жыл бұрын

With the rescue eight you can create a lot of stoping friction by wrapping your line once or twice more around the top, but you are correct if your right hand let’s go, you will lose control of your rappelling speed.

A prussic auto stop and a stopper knot at the end of your rope, even if it reaches the ground.

What did you anchor to at the top?

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

+JC-Details I don't know who took the time to drill anchor bolts in the huge rock formations found here, but I am glad they did. I hooked up to some solid anchor bolts and tested them with a wrench before hand.

@NealD

7 жыл бұрын

If some lbs of torque from a wrench breaks them loose - they should be ruined? Shouldn't you always assume someone else messed with them or used a wrench on them before you were there?

@jeffgriffiths5945

7 жыл бұрын

an excellent question. lol all the greatest roping systems and gear in the world aren't very useful if the anchor points are no good....

Hi Prepper Action, I saw your YT channel on a mutual subscribe in Bushcraft survival and primitive skills I’ve just subbed to you now. Great film thanks, climbing is something I have very little experience with. How long have you been climbing? Have a great day and stay safe. James

Sounds like you've got the Indy 500 going on across the street.

Can you please give me the location of where you’re at so I go there. Thanks great video

Hi ! May i know , how high are the top , that you had be done for repelled! 5 m ?

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Approximately 20-30 meters

@codyglasson8695

4 жыл бұрын

There is no way that was 20-30 meters.

Looks like Santee Boulders, I noticed that your gate on the carabiner is facing down, any special reason? The gate I thought was suppose to face upwards!

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

That is Santee boulders. To answer your question, orienting the screw gate down is a popular "gym technique". Gym techniques are typically implemented in an attempt to eliminate human error and avoid common mishaps, particularly by new or inexperienced climbers, but they are rarely considered proper use by manufacturers or experts however I was told it really doesn’t matter as long as you make certain that the gate is locked down/screwed down. I see your point though, it would be easier to visually check the gate if it were on top.

What did you tie the rope to?

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Tied to fixed anchor points on the top of the rock face.

Prusik for safety??? just asking

Have you tried repelling the old corry west of the dam road?

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

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also close the system. Not that he didnt but its worth mentioning. Thank you. Love your channel.

Thank you.

Have you tried repelling the old corry west of the dam road? Subbed.

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

I have scouted the area up there, do you know if there are established anchor points at all? I'd like to try that.

@ArcanusLibero

8 жыл бұрын

+Prepper Action I have not done it in twenty years. It was one of the more challenging ascents and descents I have ever done. I used to use the rock bowl across from it for giving outdoor karate classes. Back before the Rangers created so many restricted areas.

Why no mention of the foundation of safe abseiling: the anchor point.....

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

This video was originally a local video, the rock site everyone knew had anchor points all ready installed so I didn’t cover that part aside from the carabiners and straps.

@illduitmyself

6 жыл бұрын

what if....you are alone....

A+ for redundancy!

Appreciate the emphasis on safety, not like some other cowboys on here. Lends some credibility

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate your comment very much!

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

+npr386 Thanks!

does anyone see the problem with where his brake hand is?

@mr.techaky7655

5 жыл бұрын

No I don't really... Other than perhaps getting tired of constantly holding up your arm?

@chrisbuonamici6248

4 жыл бұрын

Or maybe causing a friction burn in his harness.

@vladimirlopez7840

3 жыл бұрын

Normally I see the rope coming from the figure 8 to the right hand side for a right handed person. Not around the left side around the back to the right.

Hey, Prepper Action, can you give me a rough estimate to how much all the gear will cost, minus the rappel seat? I know those rappel seats are somewhere around the $80 range, but I can make a rappel seat on the fly with the right rope for less than half the cost.

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

Somewhere around $150-200, minus the harness The rope being the most expensive, don't cut costs there, I've seen guys use rope from a hardware store. (Not recommended) A decent harness is about $50 average. I have a video on how to make a swiss seat. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6qTk5ptd8LAlMY.html and here is a link to some climbing gear on-line. www.gearexpress.com/climbing.html

@libertyordeathfjb1618

7 жыл бұрын

Alright, thanks for the advice. I'll check it out.

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

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Cool video

If your braking hand somehow lets go, what is going to stop your fall?

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

This is military type rappelling techniques, if your braking hand let’s go, you are basically screwed. Case in point, do not let go until you have obtained the objective.

@user-oy2bz5wm2b

6 жыл бұрын

Yikes!!! I was thinking of doing some waterfall rappelling in Costa Rica with OCEAN RANCH PARK IN JACO BEACH. I was wondering what kind of devices they use. Hopefully something more like a GRIGRI. Any thoughts?

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like fun. A lot of people like the ATC guide belay, it is all dependent on your situation.

@user-oy2bz5wm2b

6 жыл бұрын

If they are NOT using something that has automatic braking like the GRIgri2 or the Petzl I'D, I'm out then. If your belayer spaces out or gets distracted or passes out, you're screwed.

@ROBGIO1003

6 жыл бұрын

996601 996601 that's what an autoblock or prussik is for

thanks

Wheres the anchor did u shoot it in boulder

@PrepperAction

3 жыл бұрын

This area has anchors already placed, I mean completely and solidly drilled into the rock, a lot of people come here to practice climbing and repelling.

You never showed how you ANCHORED the rope ...

@PrepperAction

4 жыл бұрын

My bad, it was anchored to expansion bolts and steel hangers that someone installed at these rocks years ago, they are all over the place here.

1:45 my RescueR8 is rated 52nK (11,690lbs)

no prusik back up?

I'm on a Search and Rescue Academy.. and we have to rappel today and I'm freaked out because the first time I rappel, I slipted from the top of the building.. that was a few years ago.. but I'm scary... :(

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

Most people slip because they don't lean back enough and their feet will slide downward , even if you slip, remember your harnessed in, you won't fall, trust yourself and good luck, it's really quite fun once you get use to it.

@j12delgado

8 жыл бұрын

+Prepper Action Yea.. that was the reason why I slip. Im here... watching the tower.. maybe 150feet... I hope everything be fine... I'm worried...

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

You'll be fine, trust yourself, trust your gear. This video might help. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4t3tc6sj6aropc.html

@j12delgado

8 жыл бұрын

+Prepper Action I hope so... if not, its a secure death.. 😂

@j12delgado

8 жыл бұрын

+Prepper Action Here is a friend that is afraid of height.. if he do it, I CAN!

You ever try friction hitches

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

Not yet but I've ordered one to test out.

@ryanwest7405

7 жыл бұрын

I have. They work good for ascending and as a safety behind your rappelling device. I haven't solely used them for rappelling, but i'd imagine 2 of them can be used like they are for ascending, just backwards (although not very safe!)

You can just use a heavy duty carabiner to rappel

@jacobdudley794

3 жыл бұрын

@Mastah Zen look it up it’s easy

Are you referring to LOCK THE GATE? Or lock the gate DOWN??? ALWAYS LOK WITH THE GATE UP.

@KALUPO78

3 жыл бұрын

@Mastah Zen So once again, LOCK THE GATE? OR LOCK THE GATE DOWN??? The gate faces Up towards the body.

So you just tossed that double reductant system down on top of the rock and then start rappelling? It must have an incredible amount of friction

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

I placed a mat under it, something that didn’t get filmed.

Not sure why you didn’t include tieing a bow line knot that you used. That should be part of a 101 video

Where's your backup?!?! If you slip and loose your grip you'd fall. You should add a prusik to your system. It's less than $20

@PrepperAction

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, that is a good idea to have a back up. These techniques were to taught to me by the military as a quick repel years ago, sadly due health concerns I can no longer do these activities.

Where can i get that rope?

@2000ViperGTSsubscribe

6 жыл бұрын

PREPPER ACTION: They need a good DYNAMIC rope, NOT static! PLEASE EDIT that link and comment-thank you.

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up, my bad, mixed up the rope types.

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-9.9-rope?CMP_SKU=BLD00NB&MER=0406&skid=BLD00NB-DUABL-S35M&mr:trackingCode=CFE6847B-F7A0-E611-80FA-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=t&mr:adType=plaonline&CMP_ID=PLA_GOt001&Google&PLA&k_clickid=774de6bd-61e1-428e-9c47-93fda2f57a7a&rmatt=tsid:1042790%7Ccid:292652677%7Cagid:20469783517%7Ctid:pla-386032869836%7Ccrid:92885922157%7Cnw:g%7Crnd:18315794639373831808%7Cdvc:t%7Cadp:1o1%7Cmt:%7Cloc:9031315&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg7L0qYy92QIVg0NpCh24kgePEAQYASABEgIdrPD_BwE

@2000ViperGTSsubscribe

6 жыл бұрын

No problem and a terrific video. I;m a prepper myself and new to climbing, so you certainly know more than me on this stuff and figured it was just a quick typing mistake. THANK YOU!

It's nothing like rappelling from the FBI building

普通のエイト環と使い方変わらんのか？

Brother, you did not cover your anchor system. With a title describing the video as basics 101, you should have went into more detail and depth. Take this as constructive. 1. How to choose an anchor point2. How to establish your anchor3. A close up on tying the figure 8. You kinda just breezed over it. 4. Anchor and rope Retrieval Thanks for the video

Why are you using the right side as your anchor arm? The way youre set up you want it to be left side anchor. Unless you like rope burn along your back. You dont need 5 ft of friction along your butt and back to slow or anchor the rappell. Thats what the design of the Fig8 is for. You will hurt yourself oneday man...

Sorry but not my cup of tea! Didn’t learn much really. Couple things. But I can’t believe you didn’t include your original anchor point that’s what I was trying to figure out where do you attach the rope?

@PrepperAction

3 жыл бұрын

The anchor points were installed years ago by someone, I just attached the carabiners.

is that mt Arapalies?

@PrepperAction

7 жыл бұрын

Santee Boulders. www.alliedclimbers.org/local-climbing/santee-boulders/

Adios Charlie

Goodbye Charlie

Looks scary to me.

@PrepperAction

8 жыл бұрын

+Patricia Mauricio It is, until you get use to it, then it's very exciting.

😮😮😮

if i ever become a billionaire the first thing ima do is become batman!!! 💯

Say it’s basic vid only thing u show is caribiner 3 line system which no beginner even knows what it is…..Don’t apply for teaching jobs

5:15 That's not how I was taught.

@Black_Reign

3 жыл бұрын

Nope... Not even close.

RAPPELING WITH FIGURE 8 AND NO BACK UP??? THATS BAD

it stopped just as it was getting interesting

I find this video repelling,...

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

A bowline is not an acceptable anchor knot

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

+Chris Miller ok I have been using it for years, as many others... including search and rescue, so enlighten us as to what is acceptable and tell us about all your expertise.

He could have just walked down

65 feet my ass lol

Where's your self belay?

@davariyaamitkumar1003

6 жыл бұрын

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What the heck very incomplete video bro???

Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you all know that some of the instruction and equipment used in this video is out-of-date/unsafe by today's standards. As the vast majority of climbing-related injuries occur during the repel, I wanted to quickly point out a few red flags for beginners. It seems that our instructor learned to rappel a few years ago in the military and has not bothered to stay updated on the safest rappelling protocols. Figure 8's are considered to be outdated as there have been instances of shock loads breaking the device. Also they twist the rope on descents and are a pain to tie-off or lock on your descent. Instead use any kind of ATC or tube-like belay device, pretty much just as cheap as a figure 8 and much safer by todays standards. Or use a self-blocking GriGri for an extra safe backup. Speaking of backups, while not technically necessary, friction knots such as the autoblock knot and prusik are typically a standard to backup your system in the event that you let go of your rope on your descent. The likelihood that this can happen is much higher than you think. As others also noted in the comments below: Our instructor didn't really mention how to build a safe anchor, thread the rope to insure you are at the middle of the rope (it would suck to be in the middle of the descent and have one end slip through your belay/rappel device... "goodbye charlie"), use back up knots to prevent the rope from slipping through the belay/rappel device, or create a rappel extension. Scary that this video has a couple hundred thousand views... hopefully people watched a few other videos to supplement this one... If you want to watch safer alternatives check our the instructional videos Outdoor Research, REI, or AAC put out. Much more modern, safety-oriented instruction. Stay safe out there!

good video but you should loose the fake shemagh

@desertsand4797

7 жыл бұрын

A real shemagh only comes in red and white, or black and white and are made in Egypt or Saudi Arabia, they are a religious head dressing worn by Muslim males, the tan,or o.d. or black stuff you buy from cheaper than dirt or Blackhawk for your "survivalism" whatever that means, are just cool scarves not a shemagh, and thanks for your douchbag remark, it adds lots of credibility to your statement

@desertsand4797

7 жыл бұрын

Brought back from the middle east? I thought you got a couple from rothco that are made in India. India of course being a Hindu country that wears turbans not shemaghs,they do have sweat shops that make cheap products but I'm sure you know this being a soldier that travels over seas to "combat environments". And since you brought it up, where were you in the middle east?

@desertsand4797

7 жыл бұрын

Afghanistan is not in the middle east,it is in south and central Asia, the people there aren't Arabs they are Persian and Asian

@desertsand4797

7 жыл бұрын

Only a fobbit working the dfac or a complete poser would call Afghanistan the middle east

@williepierce3933

7 жыл бұрын

I call it shit. So I win the prize for being the most accurate.

always use same carabiners for rappeling!!!this brake hand is wrong.

@PrepperAction

6 жыл бұрын

I can see the same type of carabiners for rappelling because of load bearing weight and what not, I will give you that but the breaking hand is NOT wrong, do some research first, many military fast rope rappelling use this technique to breach a contact area, and still use it today, just because you deploy a different technique with modern equipment, does NOT cancel out older techniques.

65' ??? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

you lost me in the first 30seconds