Mick always seemed like the least drama filled member. Definitely the most talented.

@SteveMcbrain

Жыл бұрын

The only real reason to see a crüe show in the modern age

@stephanea5364

Жыл бұрын

It's funny becaue back in the day, all I heard was he was awful and Tommy was the most talented.

@Michael-tn9wp

Жыл бұрын

Oh please. 30 yrs ago when this band was relevant, the drummer was considered the top talent.

@rodzillarox4882

Жыл бұрын

Great show! Well I am 55 and I have been listening to Crue since I was 15. I pretty much think that Vince Neil has sang that way that entire time except it’s gotten worse because he’s overweight like a lot of us in our 50’s and out of breath. I am more of a Mick fan because I play guitar because of what Mick brought to the table. I also really like Mick because he kind of keeps to himself and wasn’t in the drama over the years. He just did his thing and wasn’t a drama queen. I know it takes several members to make a band but in my opinion, Mick is the one that made motley Crue what they are due to tone and riffs on guitar. I am well aware that Nikki wrote a ton of songs , melodies lyrics and all but Mick was the beef Manhattan of that band :) I guess we’ll find out what happens but in my personal opinion when I saw Mötley Crüe back in 2015 for their final tour twice .. I truly respected them for leaving the party and I thought it was because of Mick and his health. When the movie the dirt came out, and when they started to tour again, I had no interest going to go see them on the final tour. There were tons of people that spent thousands of dollars to fly to concert dates and get hotels and see the band for the last time and then they pull this. I’ve seen Mötley Crüe three times in my lifetime and I’ve seen Vince Neil twice on his solo shows the first time I saw him he had Steve Stevens who is freaking amazing and the slaughter band with Vince .. on Vinces solo shows I really thought that he sounded really good and the show was live. Joe Blando is an outstanding player singer and Vince did great . I tend to wonder if they stadium tour was literally a track playing that they played to… a lot of people that I’ve spoken with, said that they went to the show and couldn’t hear hardly anything, and I don’t think it actually shld be blamed only on Vince since he was actually singing. Anyway, sorry to rant I just wanted to share my thoughts. And as a sidenote, I really do you like John 5… hes amazing .. I also really enjoyed John Corabi and truly thought that was one of the best Mötley albums ever… Anyway hope Bob Rock can pull out a DR Feelgood 2 but wo Mick I don’t see it. John 5 is incredible and will do an amazing job but wo Mick it’s not Motley

@filmaker256

Жыл бұрын

TOMMY Lee figured out who the real as$$holes were in the band in the book The Dirt and I quote: "TOmmy said the whole time people called Vince and a -hole when he was going through his daughters sickeness (basically because he couldn't be around , like he had a choice) and nobody, not one person called him to even see how he was doing or even visit him . Tommy asked : "sooo, who were the real a$$holes?" meaning pretty much all the other band members lol.

To be fair, although I know most here aren't fans of them, R.E.M. was a huge band throughout the '80s and '90s but in 2011 when they said they were done, they were done. They never toured, recorded or performed live ever again.

@michaelwalters3004

Жыл бұрын

Plus REM, seemed like they generally like and respect each other.

@YT-wg8vt

Жыл бұрын

Rush too. Did the farewell tour and said that's it. Geddy, Alex, and Neil had tremendous respect for each other and ended on a high note. No money grabs. None whatsoever. Decided to call it a day and stuck to it.

@GarganoA

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwalters3004 And for me personally, I'd much rather listen to R.E.M. at even their lowest ebb than anything ever done by bands like Motley Crue or Kiss. Btw, the guys in R.E.M. did admit they'd sometimes have disagreements over politics but any and all such disputes remained "in house". They really did and still do love each other like brothers.

@GarganoA

Жыл бұрын

@@YT-wg8vt Good point, Rush was another.

@nickvickers3486

Жыл бұрын

As Michael Stipe put it, 'we literally waved goodbye on the record cover!'

If Pete's shirt causes one person to discover "Ghoulies II", this channel has had a positive impact in the world. On the subject of the video, Mick Mars could turn into a literal stone statue and he would still be better at his job than Vince Neil is at his.

I'm a Crue fan but the truth is that they are the McDonald's of hard rock. You can yell (correctly) "why do people eat at McD's??? It's so bad..." but it just doesn't matter. People want nostalgia, a night out to drink, Tommy urging the ladies to show boobs, etc. Interesting fact: John Corabi said "we haven't heard from Mick. I smell a rat" back when Mick was ousted, before the latest brouhaha. Personally, I think Nikki is a snake and/or they have a management team that is pushing them to go for $$$ over any shred of integrity.

@michaeleaster1815

Жыл бұрын

It is quite rich that Nikki wrote "Bastard" about a manager that screwed them over in the early days.

@kevinsmith7-7-7

Жыл бұрын

Same and agreed

@spaghetti.lee-69

Жыл бұрын

I've been saying for years -" KISS" is the McDonald's Happy Meal of Rock n Roll... All that " Hair Metal " was A Successful Marketing Strategy by Labels, Bands, MTV , Hollywood Videographers etc etc... Spoonfed Mainstream Waterd-down FAKE Metal... sorry for venting ...

@jasongaylor2232

Жыл бұрын

Nostalgia? I only go to McD's for the McNuggets and breakfast. 😆

@chrisbooth478

Жыл бұрын

There is a parody channel on KZread VINCE MEAL F-ing hilarious a must listen lol. 🤘🤘

All bands should take a page out of Rush’s book. Honour, integrity, friendship and love for one another. The coolest band in the universe.

@treff9226

Жыл бұрын

Bullseye! Rush is the very definition of integrity, class, and brilliance! Couldn't possibly be prouder to be a huge fan of Rush than I already am! 2112 album cover is framed, under glass, and hangs on the front of my bedroom door - feels good just looking at it! RIP Neil "The Professor" Peart.

@rememberbeginning

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@juancarlosibarra3245

Жыл бұрын

and the most boring band in the universe too

@treff9226

Жыл бұрын

@@juancarlosibarra3245 who is the boring? You aren't talking about Rush are you?

@nightshift8249

Жыл бұрын

Rush is one in a million. We’ll never see their like again.

I'm siding with Mick. When Mick announced Motley's Farewell tour on That Metal Show, he seemed to mean it. It's sad what's happening to him. In their statement, Motley said that Mick was missing notes, and not playing his best. Kind of an odd statement to make considering that Vince Neil is their singer. Regarding the Who and Kiss, those were Farewell Tours. The Who's 1982 was the last with drummer Kenny Jones. When they did the reunion tour in 1989, Simon Phillips was their drummer, but I don't think that he was a full-time member. Neither is Zak Starkey. Although, Pete and Roger did attempt to make Zak a full member, but he turned them down. The 2000 Kiss Farewell was the last with the four original members. It's funny that Ace and Peter signed away their makeup rights, but then complained about it. They should have told Gene and Paul to F off. I know that Pete has accepted Molly Hatchet. I'm okay with Skynyrd going on without Gary. They were working on an album. I hope that they finish it, send dedicate it to Gary. They still have some long-term members, including Ricky Meddlocke, who was their drummer in the early '70s. Johnny has been with them for decades.

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

The way Ace talks he says he still gets paid by Kiss. I'm guessing by use of his image. It's confusing to me what happened. But hey, the dumbest thing I've heard was Robert Plant selling his publishing royalties to Atlantic for $3M in the early 80s. Now that is the biggest loss of income I've ever heard of in rock. Can you imagine? No wonder he's butthurt about Zeppelin. Probably why he toured with Page a couple of times. But now he's too good to look back.

Nikki can write lyrics but Mick made the Crue work. I saw them many times over the years and Mick was the only one that was good. On the Saints of LA tour I noticed Nikki was using Bass tracks and walked out. I threw all my Crue stuff in the trash.

20:36 John 5 is probably the best player but not necessarily the best writer. I don't think the Crue would be where they are now if he was in the band in 1981 (versus Mick). The weird thing is that, as a soloist, Mick wasn't trendy like his contemporary shredders (Warren DeMartini, Jake E. Lee, George Lynch) but his bluesy style has given the music more longevity as the hits don't seem as dated as the others.

@perpetualmotion357

Жыл бұрын

Mick's guitar riffs were the foundation and engine in that band that kept their music chugging along. I never even cared much for the band, but I've always told my ex (who did like them) that he was the only reason I would go see them. My mom had RA that pretty much turned her to stone. I was always amazed how well he could play given his limited movement. He was actually a great motivator for my own playing when injuries through the years almost made me hang it all up.

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

John 5 was an excellent choice but I bet he's kinda bummed that they aren't really playing live. Imagine finally playing with your heroes and youre playing to a tape. Theres a KZread video out which shows what Mick was getting fed into his in-ears. It's pretty sad. I think Tommy is using tapes because he recently broke 4 ribs. Doubtful he could play the way he normally plays with that kind of injury. I watched a concert and he didn't do his drum solo.

Part of the reason for the ticket sales is the whole bill, not just Crue. Def Leppard is still huge (and released a pretty great album last year), Poison has a pretty big fan base, Joan Jett has a little bit of a following but was a nice addition for an opener, and when the tour was first announced (pre-Covid and when many bought their tickets) Whitesnake was part of the bill, as well. This isn't just Crue filling up stadiums.

@tommyaddison6539

Жыл бұрын

I heard some horrible duet from that new Leppard record, so that turned me off from listening to the whole thing. Maybe I’ll check it out.

@jagsnumberone88

Жыл бұрын

@@tommyaddison6539 "Take what you want" is probably my favorite song on it (they play it in concert).

@tommyaddison6539

Жыл бұрын

@@jagsnumberone88 I’m gonna give it a listen right now , the whole album

@georgiarn3915

Жыл бұрын

Yep, saw Def Leppard in 2019 and they were great. I saw Joan Jett open for Billy Idol in 2018 and they were both great. So yeah a lot of folks went for bands other than Crue, and bands that still play live.

That was a great job by Dave and of course the legendary KING ALO Thx Pete for your time. 👍💯

Quick note regarding the mention of the Rolling Stones...the Stones never had a farewell tour and never said anything was their last tour. I think people often mistake the seven-year gap in touring in the 80s as a farewell, but nothing like that was ever announced. Each subsequent tour since then has been to support a new album or commemorate an anniversary....no reunions, no farewells...just an on-going band that has yet to stop.

@sbziel

9 ай бұрын

yea believe one member said gap due to being lazy on albums not tour--

Mick was outspoken on the Final Tour about not being happy for using backing tracks then. Mick did speak about it before just no one made a big deal of it.

I think it's just sad seeing all these old guys way past their best. People are basically just paying for a memory.

@RichAnthony77

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, you are spot on, bud. There are SO many bands out on tour that just need to retire & enjoy their later years with the money they made when they were at the top of their game. And these idiots that dish out BIG cash for concert tickets just contribute to all of these has been’ facades…..well…..here’s your sign.

Mick is a fantastic and very underrated guitarist. His guitar playing really gave MC their balls and power.

@stevetobin7495

Жыл бұрын

I remember an interview by the scorpions guitarist in 1988 where he said that his guitar tech was a better guitarist than MM

All I want to know is why would anyone pay to see Motley Crue 🙄

@treff9226

Жыл бұрын

Right Scott, people should BE PAID to see them.

@scottanderson4175

Жыл бұрын

@@treff9226 couldn’t pay me enough 😐

@treff9226

Жыл бұрын

@@scottanderson4175 I was thinking about how petty and selfish people can be, how completely unaware and without moral aptitude grown ass people show themselves to be! And these are folks who are reliant on public acceptance, on pleasing their fan base, and yet they simply can't even hide their own dirty laundry, in fact, they are now spotlighting their own immaturity and insecurities for all the world to see! Effing stunning! Trampling all over a once proud career over the almighty dollar along with the usual dick measuring contest, I am a big fan of Too Fast For Love and Shout At The Devil albums, but after all this bullshit, really don't need to ever spin em' again! The only way I'd ever attend a Crue gig was if I could bring in rotten fruit and vegetables to chuck at the circus act up on stage. Thank God for bands like Rush, who do everything with style and heart, are best friends and never fail to respect their fans!

Rush’s farewell tour had so much integrity that they didn’t HAVE TO bill it as such. It was well known it would be their final tour. None of us (fans) wanted to believe it, but we suspected it was true. No need to cash grab-they sold out every show without tricking people into a FOMO.

Motley Crue stopped concentrating on music after Shout took off and became more about the spectacle and their antics. Mick was the most “artistically balanced” one in the band. The other 3 are just caricatures at this point. I always thought they were phonies two weeks after I bought Shout At The Devil. I sold my cassette to a girl. There’s a handful of albums that I’m ashamed to admit to buying. Shout was one of them.

Well, since this is about Motley Crue, my guess is "all of them". But that's just me.

@danielcraig9666

Жыл бұрын

Beat me to it...

Motley Crue was past their sell by date in 1992. An absolutely terrible band, I wouldn’t pay a plugged nickel to watch those clowns. Alice Cooper? One of the best shows I ever saw, and that was a year ago. Worth every cent. Finally, to say Mick Mars went out “for the fans” is laughable. It’s always about the money, even when it’s not!

@toneman8478

Жыл бұрын

Always!! These guys need retirement money to stay living a luxurious lifestyle

At what point does a band become simply a brand? This is a topic for conversation.

@TocadaLeitura

Жыл бұрын

I'm afraid everything is becoming a brand. But yeah, that would be a good topic for conversation.🤔

@jcollins1305

Жыл бұрын

Excellent topic. KISS, Pink Floyd, MC, the Who, etc etc. the discussion on punk rock they had today (Friday 4/14 was awful)

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

These days? Immediately. If they're trying to become famous. But definitely once Walmart starts selling your shirts.

I find the whole situation really sad. Mötley Crüe made a big deal about retiring in 2014/2015 and then, they came back a few years later saying they're going to tour one more time with Def Leppard and Poison. And Mick Mars had health problems even back then, so it's amazing he still did the tour with them. When Mick finally retired, he and the band started going back and forward saying negative things about each other and it's uh, not good!

I have no interest in seeing old men attempting to perform on stage but I will continue to enjoy their studio albums.

To quote the immortal Half Man Half Biscuit - "Help Me, Mrs Medlicott, I don't know what to do I only have 3 bullets, and there's 4 of Motley Crue"

@rememberbeginning

Жыл бұрын

LOL!!! Shoot Vince 3 times? Just a guess.

I've been a Crüehead since '83, and I've never been as disappointed in the band as I am now, with Nikki's overdose coming in as a close second, 'cause that meant I didn't get to see GN'R before they got huge. I'm team Mick in this and I hope he releases his solo album during this shitflinging, he certainly won't get any better exposure than this. ;)

It was no secret they have been using tracks for years now. Motley is a nostalgia act and anyone paying to watch them pretend to play on stage are the reason these bands are getting away with this nonsense.

I saw the Scorpions on their "farewell" tour at Jones Beach on Long Island in the pouring rain. I sucked it up and bought floor seats because it was their final tour. Within a year, they decided to keep touring. I have seen them twice since then. Having said that, however, I must say that everyone in that band still sounds great.

@georgiarn3915

Жыл бұрын

Saw them in Vegas in 2022. Awesome show.

@fbettr2627

Жыл бұрын

Huge SCORPIONS/Uli ROTH/Michael SCHENKER fan here. I saw SCORPIONS's farewell tour in the summer of 2010 with CINDERELLA as the support act. I was disappointed with SCORPIONS' performance and the setlist. In my opinion, CINDERELLA stole the show that night. Still love SCORPIONS's body of work, especially between 1974 and 1993, but I've skipped the group's 3 or 4 concerts in my area beyond the 2010 farewell concert.

@ESUSAMEX

Жыл бұрын

@@fbettr2627 That's the same tour I saw. The Scorpions paid tribute to Ronnie James Dio who died a few days before that show.

@jazzcatjohn

Жыл бұрын

I saw them on that tour in Mexico City and it was an absolutely phenomenal show, even better than when I saw them on the Crazy World tour in 1991. As far as deciding to continue, at least they released a really good album with Rock Believer.

@fbettr2627

Жыл бұрын

@@jazzcatjohn Love 'Rock Believer'. Definitely SCORPIONS' best studio album since 'Face The Heat' in my opinion. Long live SCORPIONS.

This is a band i wish would go away

Team Mick. His guitar tone on Shout At The Devil made Motley Crue great

Great discussion guys. Like Dave, I also wish we could all pay more attention to giving younger bands a chance or to any band that still has their chops

I like King Alo's take on this👍

@chrisalo2989

Жыл бұрын

thank you!

Motley Crue hasn't been relivent since 1989 and hasn't been decent since 1983

I agree with "all of them", and I might add that it wouldn't come as a great surprise if it surfaces that they're all in agreement behind the scenes

If as you suggest, this has resulted in increased ticket sales then co-headliners Def Leppard must be laughing all the way to the band!

I saw them like four decades ago on the shout at the devil tour, opening for Ozzy Osbourne. They were entertaining but a lot of people were there just to see Ozzy and did not give a darn about the (then yet not super well known) opening act

@chetgreblowski7811

Жыл бұрын

I saw that tour also at Madison Square Garden, great show from what I remember, which isn't much.

@PaulThoresen

Жыл бұрын

@@chetgreblowski7811 I thought Jake e. Lee was awesome in Ozzie's band.

@chetgreblowski7811

Жыл бұрын

I agree

Not a huge fan of theirs, but frankly 5% for not actually showing up is a pretty good deal. Better to get 5% of a lot of money rather than 25% of a little money.

Already watching "The Dirt" made me dislike those people, hearing the mess between the 2 camps is just flat-out indecent. I don't need to hear about musician's dirty laundry. I wish they'd just play their music and keep their stories for themselves and their lawyers. Pathetic. Cheers.

I feel 7% is a good deal for doing nothing. Sucks he's sick and can't tour but 7% is better than 0. In any event, I'm not a Crue fan but will sit back with popcorn and enjoy the drama.

I stick with Mick.

This is a corporate issue, being played out in the public. I think Mick should at least get a good retirement package, for healthcare in the USA.

I can't think of a band I hate more than Motley Crue. The only good thing they ever came out was that book. That is pretty entertaining.

The masses might be with Mars but legally, he might not have a leg to stand on. I doubt Crue's legal team had Mars privy to 25% of touring profits if he excused himself from touring.

@tonyn3227

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Mars is great, but he did sign the contract,

Well if he’s not doing the tour why should he get paid? It’ll be like Bill Wyman suing Rolling Stones or ex members of Kiss for not paying them for tours they’re not part of. It really doesn’t make sense. I get it if they’re not paying Mars royalties for the albums he’s made with them then fair enough, but he’s getting 5% profit from the tours he’s no longer part of because he announced that he was retiring, he wasn’t unexpectedly fired. So to sue them for a bigger percentage is just sheer greed, & downright cheek. I’m siding with Motley Crue with this one, & I’m not a huge fan of their work.

@scottricci5063

Жыл бұрын

One word: CONTRACT

@floyd75dylan

Жыл бұрын

@@scottricci5063 Which they all signed an agreement a few years ago which was that if one of them retires then that person would forfeit any money made from future touring. Mars made that retiring decision so he must abide by that contention they all agreed upon.

@martymartin2894

Жыл бұрын

If he's a part owner of the co he may be entitled to a share of the profit just like a share holder in any other co. Just depends on what way contracts were written.

@brianallen8091

Жыл бұрын

Mars supposedly did NOT retire from the band-he just stepped away from touring, so under contract, he deserves the 25%. Shitley Crue are cashing in on The Dirt popularity, that’s why the bogus sham “contract” was used to wipe their a$$ with for more $$$ and “relevance” with the younger generation….”JUST ONE MORE TIME” 😂

Mick is the only one who has had his s**t together, despite all his health issues. I took my Mom to see the stadium tour when it came through Houston. He was the only one actually playing. He has been and always will be their best asset.

A GREAT example of an equitable situation like this is Joey Kramer and Aerosmith. Joey has to pay the Drummer $20k per show and $10k for the rehearsals. He stills owns the same percentage in Aerosmith. He got sick and he was told he had to audition for the band and was told he wasn't good enough. Your Tech is taking over on tour and they agreed on 20k a show paid by Joey alone and 10k for the rehearsals for the tour!

@jcollins1305

Жыл бұрын

Crazy! What a way to step into a nice gig.

bands are a funny old thing,as a youth ,i played guitar for a while in a band called aicumbrea,bit like jethro tull style,main guy was a total tull/anderson freak.played flute,did the standing on one leg thing,and wrote 90 per cent of the songs ,so really his band.i was meant to be martin barre,the guy who did the heavy riffs bit.along came a manager,who waved some gigs and money in front of him,so after a rehearsal,in the pub after about 6 beers,he told me they had decided to go in a more mellow direction,i later found out the manager didnt like my heavy guitar style,and for them to get the gigs/money.i had to go,and that i was no longer in the band.of course i was pissed,and suggested,are you sure this manager guy is kosher.well ironically i was right,he gave them 2 grand,lot of cash back then,but the gigs turned out to be shitty working mens clubs,where they werent appreciated at all,six months later they split up,and i got a call from derek,do you fancy a pint,so i went,ironically in the same pub they fired me in lol and he apologized,saying he shouldnt have fired me,and that the manager was a asshole,talk of getting the band back together,but never happened

Rock bands have been feuding since the Beatles onward and Motley Crue ain't the last either. 🤔🧐 🎤 🎸 🎸 🎸 🎹 🪘🥁

David Byrne said he’s never going to reunite “Talking Heads” which I was like I missed my chance and I always had it in the back of my head they will and it’s now obviously not going to happen. But his “new solo” stuff is hard to listen to. My only saving grace is there are some really highly edited live versions that I will forever enjoy. Now I saw Cruè on the DR FEELGOOD TOUR where they did the whole album and it was sooooo bad we all left 3rd song in that’s how bad it was.

Mick signed a contract that stated any member that didn't tour wasn't eligible for touring proceeds. The band has already sold their publishing rights, so touring is their only income. These seem like important points. I was Team Mick until these facts were revealed by Variety.

@elisacastellani4054

Жыл бұрын

Exactly and when Tommy or Vince left the tours years ago they didn't earn money. No tour no money.

@comikdebris

Жыл бұрын

They ( the group) also signed a binding contract not to tour anymore. Which Nikki ripped up at his earliest convenience.

Next RANT pre- meeting. Chris- " Hey Pete and Dave, I don't want to do the next RANT show. You guys go ahead without me and just put the 33% in my bank account". Pete and Dave " Sounds fair".

Fantastic video! Just one suggestion Pete, you really need to have more ads. Ten ads in a 28-minute video is just not enough.

Totally with Chris re the Corabi Crue album 🤟 that album still sounds great today

Dave is the perfect guy to talk about colorful feuds since he does a great job covering pro-wrestling too. 😄

I agree with Chris. 25% is a bit too much for not doing anything, but he should get more than 5%, which is probably what he's aiming for. I also agree with Dave- why is anybody going to see this washed up band? The singer can't sing. The guys aren't playing live. It's all on click tracks, so you get the same metronomic tempos and zero spontaneity, so what's the point?

19:30 Sharon will still cart Ozzy on stage even after he’s died! She will take the saying, flogging a dead horse in a literal sense. Sharon will outdo the Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral procession & have Ozzy’s specially preserved made glass class coffin & take him on many more world tours. All the legacy bands will still carry on even after the original band members have moved on because it’s a brand, & bands like Iron Maiden will employ a singer & band players to carry on the legacy. Otherwise the unofficial tribute bands will profit more from a defunct brand. So what better way than to make an “official” tribute band endorsed by the Dickinson/Harris/Murray estate & carry on bringing that money home. That way the younger generation can brag online that they went to the official tribute act, & showing off their official merch etc. I suppose one good thing might come out of it. We might get the official tribute act to play the band’s first 4 albums!

@fbettr2627

Жыл бұрын

LOL. Sharon will milk every penny from OZZY. Someone needs to pay to sustain a certain lifestyle.

I understand you don’t love the band and I respect it, But so far no one has mentioned the fact that in 2008 all of the band signed a business agreement that if anyone left the road they would not be entitled to anymore touring revenue. The band have sold their masters and publishing. And even with that agreement in place they stand to make 110 million dollars on this tour, of which they offered Mick 7.5%.

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

Truth. This whole thing has to be a negotiation tactic on Mick's lawyer's part. He can't win in court but he's winning in the court of public opinion. Crue is actually right in this situation but it doesn't matter now.

@georgiarn3915

Жыл бұрын

They also promised 2015 was the last tour. Who knows what the true terms of that so called agreement is?

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

@@georgiarn3915 , the terms have been released to the public to show that the Crue are being generous to Mick by giving him anything from the tour. I wouldn't know a link but I read it a couple of times and no member gets anything from touring if they aren't on the tour. It wasn't that interesting to me so I'm not sure where you can find it. Maybe a google search or something.

@captainkirk70

Жыл бұрын

@@georgiarn3915 I dont think Mick is married or has young kids. I think he'll get an offer of a little bigger percentage which lawyers and his manager will take most of. If I were him I'd take the money and go peacefully into the night. He's gotta be in bad shape. He's been in pretty bad shape for 20 years. Hats off to him for doing as well as he has but if he's not rich from Motley Crue then that's on him. Time to move to a beautiful country with a caretaker. And leave his heirs millions. It's really that simple. I'm sure he has money and a beautiful home, vintage cars and guitars in LA. Sell it all and move on and enjoy the rest of his life.Peace be with him, he's had a great run. Brought happiness to millions but I think he can barely walk anymore. Time to call it.

There’s earlier papers they signed that said if any of the four retired you forfeit your share of concert revenue? We think ? as it’s not confirmed but if it exists then it’s fairly straightforward and he deserves nothing from the band.

Slayer and Rush have retired and so far have stayed retired. Also I don't remember The Rolling Stones doing a farewell tour and then coming back. They just keep touring.

@chrisalo2989

Жыл бұрын

I love Slayer and I flew to final shows in LA. But it's too early to tell if they come back or not. Kerry King has already been second guessing that in the press. And RUSH never officially announced thier last tour as a "Farewell Tour".

Farewell tours are for saying farewell to the money you paid for overpriced tickets to farewell tours.

i really could not care less. i think "too fast for love" and "shout at the devil" are great records, but i haven't cared since. but if i were to pick a side it'd be with mick.

I already made my rant on my instagram post about all of this and spoken to a few people about it and they think it’s sad and understand my disconnect from the band. Forever the Crüe.

Led Zeppelin stayed retired with the exception of the 2007 one of concert which was a dedication to the Atlantic records guy who passed away

@JIF882

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They also played Live Aid in 1985, the 40th anniversary of Atlantic Records in 1988, and Jason Bonham's wedding

@baron_von_brunk

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@@JIF882 First rule of Led Zeppelin is that we don't talk about their 1985 Live Aid performance.

I saw crue 5 years ago, with Alice Cooper. It was great concert, they played great. Really great, and I disagree . they do have great albums, I think last one saints of Los Angeles is awesome,

@Starman2112ofKings

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That’s pretty funny that was 2008! Even though I agree it is pretty good but that was 15 years ago

@LarryFleetwood8675

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Alice always liked Crue, he said back in the '80s there's a danger to the band that attracted him, have a picture disc interview (circa Raise Your Fist era) where he mentions that.

It was a money grab. They knew after the 4 band Stadium Tour Mick was done so if we do just us and Def Lep we can TAKE Mick's % and split it 3 ways minus 5% to Mick. Mick spent 41 years building Motley Crue's value they should draw a Performance Salary per show, so they make SIGNIFICANTLY MORE then Mick, then you pay John 5, and after expenses and everything else all 4 owners - which is Tommy, Nikki, Vince, AND Mick - split the profits of the entity - which is Motley Crue..... 5%, and even 7.5%, is an INSULT and Corporate Theft!

Pete speaking hard truths! 🤯

Interesting rant could be tribute bands what's chris and pete's take on it could be a interesting topic to discuss especially with inflation jacking up the big arena and stadium shows even more now the tributes seems to be a really love hate debate.

Money, greed, time to pack it in should of did it 10 years ago it's a joke now sad people buy tickets to this.

I love Mick and I feel so bad for him during this time. But the band is doing great and selling tons of tickets. They seem to be having a great time. Mick can't continue touring. I don't see how he can expect to get 25 percent if he is not playing on the tour. The band didn't fire him, he quit.

Motley Crue is not selling out those stadiums alone. Def Leppard and Poison has been a big part of that tour’s success!!!

From the looks of Vince Meal (who certainly hasn't missed one lately) he's more into eating than singing. Can't believe I actually bought a cassette tape from them back in the early '80s way before CD's. I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see any of those washed-up bands..

Lines from a song by Half Man Half Biscuit spring to mind. 🎶Help me Mrs Medlycott, I don't know what to do. I've only got 3 bullets and there's four in Motley Crue."🎶

Yeah,honestly,I was going to buy tickets for their upcoming tour.But now,when this whole shitty business came out,I have changed my mind.I am not buying shit.And my friends,who were initially pretty excited to see Motley Crue again,are not going to buy tickets either.

A lawyer on KZread went over Mars' Writ to Compel for the Motley Crue LTCs, etc, to hand over records. And I don't mean albums. 🤣 It may be interesting to see the next step. Of, course, it might bore me or make me lose brain cells.

There is no definite answer as to how much a former member gets paid. As I understand it, a 25% membership in a company is exactly that: 25% of the profits. When bands are on tour they make money not only by playing but by selling merch and all the other stuff. A member that is not performing does not get paid per performance or per week but gets his percentage from all the other income that the "company" produces. He/she also gets performance royalties for the percentage of the songs he/she has co written or written exclusively that are performed every night live or on tv, radio, web etc. The case here or the case with Bill Ward and others that are involved with very savy and agressive managers, is that they have been asked to sign off or give away their initial percentage. This is how I understand it anyway.....

🌠Prince Vince...Chris Alo..calls him that..he's the Best !!!

Nikki Sixx was a musical hologram before musical holograms was a thing.

Not a Crue fan, but honestly, it does seem that the public is overwhelmingly in support of Mick Mars. From what I read and know, I tend to sway that way as well

Great episode. Next rant about the Powertrip festival please.

Mick definitely has had the most adversity in his life-- most of the adversity experienced by the other 3 members of the band has largely been self-induced. Mick was pretty much finished in early 2004-- he was a few weeks close to death, but Nikki and Tommy, quite frankly, and to give them credit, saved his life. They got him back up, got him in to get surgery on his hips, gave him a reason to live. He learned how to walk and play again, kicked opioids, worked out and got stronger, and BOOM, he was, by early 2005, ready to record material and go back on tour. Then he met Seraina and that REALLY made him better. Over the past 15 years, Nikki has become strictly business and a gatekeeper of his brand, and it has changed his behavior drastically. Tommy, being the youngest and the most influenced by Mick, used to worship the ground he walked on-- I think money and greed finally got the best of them and after Saints of Los Angeles they have been running on empty. Too bad they didn't quit after that album.

REM have never reunited and toured either.

I wonder if the unexpected return of Motley Crue was due to renewed interest in the band by a younger audience, that only knows them because of the movie adaptation of The Dirt.

I saw Motley Crue in 1986 they were crap then , I wouldn't touch them now with a barge pole.

Ghoulies II is a phenomenal movie.

Perhaps my standards are too high but I'm not paying a lot of attenstion and definitely not paying any money to the Crue until they put out new material, preferably a new album. Yeah probably daydreaming but that's my standard for my money.

I agree with David. I skipped the Stadium Tour because it was an obvious cash grab, now I am really glad I did when I found out it was all just pre-recorded anyway. I grew up on classic rock, old school glam and 80's metal, but I have no interest in seeing some band that is a shadow of their former self. I recently saw the Scorpions and Skid Row in Las Vegas and they sounded pretty good, but you could see they were feeling their age. To you guys point, there are a lot of other newer bands out there that could use support for their career. So I'm spending my money on Samantha Fish, Larkin Poe and Rival Sons.

Team Mick

Honestly? The band was relevant for me until after Theater of Pain … sadly this album gets way too much crit… and I don’t like the album for the singles at all … i enjoy Louder than Hell or Keep your eye on the money etc. However, they should have hung it up a long time ago! Vince Neil has become Mince Meal and the lackluster performances make it clear.

Oingo Boingo said farewell in 95 and that was it. Danny Elfman never looked back.

@katesjanice

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I went to that show and it was terrific! A very fitting goodbye.

Don't forget what Fleetwood Mac (Stevie) did to Lindsay

I'm a die hard Cruehead. Seriously this has me fucking depressed. I love all four members and the former members but yes Mick is entitled to some royalty.

Neil going to be singing about potato salad and cheesecake on the next album I'll bet.

@treff9226

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LoL! Vince Meals needs to lose the forks in his house! Won't be buying his new album, Tub Of Goo!

You guys forgot Rush, now I'm a young rocker so I might be mistaken but they didn't do anything after a farewell tour did they?

Theater Of Pain is still a Underrated Album IMO🤘

Pete, you won't remember this but a few years ago you were taking viewer's questions and you responded to mine, thank you again and it was why don't you like Motley Crue past the first 2 albums anyway that said they lost me after the 2015 debacle and it's just gone WAY bad, they should retire while they still have have a Legacy, oops Too Late, Cheers🤘

I wonder what John 5's price tag is and what part it plays in this charade... Great player but.

JP are doing the same percentage cut on KK. From 25% to 5%.

@sabbster1157

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Wrong. They always had 5 members. 20% would be the max

@MrSheymie

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@@sabbster1157 Check out recent interview with KK on YT. Have a nice day.

This Mick guy is in the wrong here. If they don't tour he gets $0 . If they tour he gets 7.5 percent of thousands of dollars without having to do anything. Whats wrong with that? He's being greedy and selfish. If he was suing out of principle because he is philosophically opposed to them touring altogether and ruining the legacy of the band then that would be a different story. But to sue over percentage? He's being a jerk!

Will always be a fan of the Crue, and glad I got to see them, but it’s time to hang it up now. Can’t believe they’re treating Mick like this after all he gave them over the years.

I see a lot of people talking about how Motley signed a contract that any non touring members wouldn't get paid... But do we really know the stipulations of that contract. We'll see. Mick Mars stated he was not retiring from MC, just the long tours. He said he fully expected to be in the recording studio and would do shorter tours and residencies. I tend to side with him considering that Motley Crue went around promising that the 2015 tour was the end, but after renewed interest in the band after The Dirt came out on Netflix... Nikki couldn't resist another cash grab. I think that there is a possibility that would void the previous agreement regarding touring, especially considering Mick's ongoing health issues.

The Stadium Tour only did big business because it had 4-5 bands, one of which was Def Leppard. And these "rich guys" who keep going after the prime, do it because they had big lifestyles and aren't rich anymore.

Elder abuse is when you're forced to listen to the Kiss prog album

@fbettr2627

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LOL