“And that’s why Jacob Degrom is the #2 Pitcher, #1 is obviously Edwin Diaz”

@fgtcg8078

Жыл бұрын

@Unsold Liberty this clown probably doesn’t even watch baseball bro 😂

@cristianmunoz2480

Жыл бұрын

@Unsold Liberty he's a Met to Marc

@mabmab6260

Жыл бұрын

This was some pretty big anti-Braves bias as a Mets fan from Marc. He hates on Ozzie Albies a lot, but I can see why. Max Fried just finished the season with an ERA below 2.48 and finished top 2 in NL Cy Young voting. Marc doesn't even count him as a top 20 pitcher? He was top 2 in the entire National League! Kyle Wright leads all of MLB in wins but doesn't even count as a top 30 pitcher? I'm sorry but a top 2 Cy Young finish and an MLB wins leader should never end up being counted as zero top 20 pitchers. I can see a world where someone might think Wright may never be able to replicate those wins, but he still should have been in the top 30 somewhere. I can't even slightly understand how Max Fried, as the 2nd best pitcher in the National League period somehow doesn't even crack the top 20. Both of those pitchers could have easily made the top 10 and no one would have a right to complain. Fried should have made the top 5 for sure. The fact that neither of them cracked this Mets fan's list of even the top 20 is total nonsense. Marc... I can get the hate on Albies. He was injured and didn't play much at all last season. Dumping on the MLB wins leader and one of the top 2 NL Cy Young finishers by claiming neither of them even belong in the top 20 is clearly either bias against the Braves after they have won your team's division every single year for the past half decade or favoritism towards other pitchers who are clearly just not as good as them. How do you finish top 2 in Cy Young if you aren't even a top 20 pitcher? How do you lead MLB in wins if you aren't even a top 30 pitcher? You don't. It's that simple. Both Max Fried and Kyle Wright have the stats to back up they are top 10 pitchers. The fact that you consider neither of them even top 20 pitchers shows clear and present Mets fan anti-Braves bias along with your bashing of Ozzie Albies. If those guys are as low as you rank them, how do they keep beating the Mets to win the division year in and year out?

@SanFranFan30

Жыл бұрын

Starting Pitchers.

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@Unsold Liberty He hates on Albies because Braves fans think he’s Jose Altuve. If he wasn’t so grossly overrated, Marc wouldn’t need to do that

Cease at 20 is CRAZY, “potential to be one of the best”, he just was!!!??

@TheMicklachey

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! He’s minimum top 10 and more likely top 5

@lukabuckets5435

Жыл бұрын

He’s top 10, but I’m a sox fan so I’m prob biased

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

As a jays fan I’d say at least top 15 like manoah should be

@goatmode7317

Жыл бұрын

Top 8 easily

@aias97

Жыл бұрын

Giraffe 🤡marc

28 for Manoah is insane. I don’t care if he doesn’t strike guys out, every since the dude came into the league he has been a stud. 300+ innnings of sub 2.50 ERA ball

@mkadoza

Жыл бұрын

Where would you put him.

@Luka_MK

Жыл бұрын

@@mkadoza Top 15 AT LEAST. Easily top 10 though

@trevorcarey3997

Жыл бұрын

I would put Manoah at # 12 and I would put ShoTime # 1 the Man is the GOAT 🐐

@daleftywizard9227

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorcarey3997 othani is good overall but if he would be pitcher only he would be just above average

@byInventus

Жыл бұрын

@@daleftywizard9227 Top tier K rate and 172 era+ is not "just above average" by any stretch of the imagination.

For a guy that finished Top 3 in Cy Young Voting to be at 28 is criminal

@xaviera6498

Жыл бұрын

I’m a die hard Yankee fan and agree with u 100%. How is Manoah so low

@jaydumon2784

Жыл бұрын

And fried was second in the cy young and was ranked 21st

@carterelkins7891

Жыл бұрын

@@jaydumon2784 and he mentioned everyone else's cy finishes and failed to mention Max finishing 2nd, lmfao mets bias is real

@greatnessdelton1381

Жыл бұрын

@@carterelkins7891 He didn't even mention Urias and had him at 17th? He and Max were finalists! Personally, I think Urias was better, but both should be in the top 10.

The disrespect towards Manoah is crazy. You said his stuff fell off near the end of the year is the furthest thing from the truth. He had an ERA under 1 in the last month of the season. Guy was the best pitcher in baseball in September. Just wow

@Patman0074

Жыл бұрын

These latest rankings have been pretty awful, relief pitching one was really bad too.

@aidencirelli970

Жыл бұрын

Agree especially the tigers cause they he’d one of the best bullpens and I can name five better the Gregory Soto

@PopOutPaulie

Жыл бұрын

Yea sometimes I wonder what dude is thinking. The fact Gausman was ranked ahead of the likes of McClanahan Urias Musgrove Manoah and others. It made no sense

@chesschad81

Жыл бұрын

Manoah's BABIP, HR/FB, xERA, FIP and xFIP all suggest he got lucky this year. This is rankings for 2023, not 2022.

@wildboar1911A1

Жыл бұрын

how did he do in the wildcard again?

Manoah at 28 is criminal. Also being behind Glasnow is ridiculous

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

Glasnow is way more talented, and will probably be higher by the time next year's list comes out, but yeah based on how good Manoah was last season, he should be higher.

@mr.trollincidents3588

Жыл бұрын

meh. i’m a jays fan and i can even say glassy is a bit better than manoah. however if you’re considering the 2022 season alone however then yeah alex comes out on top

@brandontong759

Жыл бұрын

Glasnow clears that regular season merchant

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely nuts that he even put gausman over manoah how is manoah so low 100% a top 10 pitcher

@metalmythology6282

Жыл бұрын

Putting Manoah behind Fried is what really annoys me

Max fried at 21 is wild… most underrated pitcher in the game

@gcubed5451

Жыл бұрын

No

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't agree with the 2nd part, but yeah what the hell

@RobbPanic

Жыл бұрын

He's not better than anyone ranked ahead of him

@ronmexico7256

Жыл бұрын

He values k rate and fip over basically everything which causes some issues.

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

@@ronmexico7256 But the thing is Fried has an amazing FIP for a guy with a not very high K rate.

28 for Manoah is criminal

No chance Manoah is only 28

Manoah was 3rd in cy young. having him at 28 is crazy

@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621

Жыл бұрын

Marc really botched this list. I get pitchers are hard to rank but still.

@fatasscarter8537

Жыл бұрын

How did this age?

Gerrit Cole has a 3.66 ERA since the updated foreign substance ban in 2021 and you’re telling me he’s going to be the 6th best pitcher in the league next year.

@choppacrewboysgaming6178

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 yankees fans must thrown him some money. cole is no where near that

@austinwoods5858

Жыл бұрын

Cole is elite

@choppacrewboysgaming6178

Жыл бұрын

@@austinwoods5858 when he cheated yup. he got taken to pound town by mutiple teams atfer he got caught

@austinwoods5858

Жыл бұрын

@@choppacrewboysgaming6178 no he’s still elite

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

yeah, I can agree on that. He's still maybe a top 15-20 pitcher, but the stats back up what you're saying and show that he isn't top 10 right now. I'd rank Rodon higher than Cole.

Julio Urias at 17 is crazy bro he had a Cy Young like year

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

So did 90% of these guys

@greatnessdelton1381

Жыл бұрын

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 It was barely 50%, lol, and Urias finished 3rd in CY voting after finishing 9th the year prior. He's a top 10 pitcher in the league, and Mark's going to look like a fool again like he did with last year's rankings.

@DannyGutzwiler

Жыл бұрын

He was better than Kershaw this year

@greatnessdelton1381

Жыл бұрын

@@DannyGutzwiler Technically true, but Kershaw had a 2.28 ERA with 126 IP and 137 K's. Had Kershaw pitched a full 162 IP, he would have been a top 5 pitcher in the league and definitely better than Urias. And Kershaw's supposed to be "washed". Hope he continues to pitch "washed" then.

cole over verlander is crazy

@thedragon7649

Жыл бұрын

No

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@@thedragon7649 Verlander destroyed him by every metric. Even when they were on the same team, Verlander outpitched him

@paulhopkins1905

Жыл бұрын

Cole over Valdez was stupid

@hxmcde

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhopkins1905 cole over anyone is stupid

@cavebabybeserkers2763

Жыл бұрын

As a Yankees fan Verlander has always been better than cole. But imo Verlander the best pitcher in baseball

Julio Urias is maybe the most underrated pitcher in baseball

@davidpacheco2780

Жыл бұрын

I came to see what spot he had him at. He had him ranked lower than Kershaw lol.. 2023 is Urias' contract year and he's a Boras client. He hasn't had a bad season in over 3 years...

@Sam_Baseball

Жыл бұрын

Bro he is the most overrated player in all of baseball. Look at the man’s fip

@GabrielMartinez-wo1vf

Жыл бұрын

he's not. everyone knows he's really good, but there are a handful of pitchers who are definitely better. dodger fans just loooove overselling their players, and ig the way they feel like doing this with Urias is by calling him "underrated."

@josefstein9062

Жыл бұрын

When he isnt getting into domestic abuse cases lol

@alfredolozano4773

Жыл бұрын

@@josefstein9062what does that have to do with his pitching performance or his ranking at all😭

Love the rankings videos! As someone who watched them all year, Manoah is WAY better than Gausman. Gausman gets lit up sometimes, but Manaoh always battles… just needs to figure out how to get lefties out

@travismanning224

Жыл бұрын

nah. gausman was unlucky

@doublersports2866

Жыл бұрын

Oof

@markdenn

Жыл бұрын

damn

Castillo at 18 is wild

@Iverson8811

Жыл бұрын

Should be within 15

How does Julio Urias go down? He had a better season then he did last year. He was also 3rd in cy young.

@PopcornChicken99

Жыл бұрын

Other guys just had better seasons

@jasonpaslean9771

Жыл бұрын

@@PopcornChicken99 I think the bigger issue is that he’s behind Nola who had an era over a full run higher than him and Nola is in the top 10 but he isn’t

@Ryan-xw2gm

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpaslean9771 outside of ERA Nola has better stats.

@contrast6140

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonpaslean9771Phillies have terrible Defense which doesn’t help Nola. Nola has a FIP over a whole run lower than Urias.

Having Verlander at 8 after the season he just had is criminal

@davidrusso6400

Жыл бұрын

He was trying to appease the people who would call him biased. Unfortunately...

@JawaPenguin16

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrusso6400 If he was trying to appear unbiased, having Scherzer that high doesn't help.

@aquarpioleonine3995

Жыл бұрын

@@JawaPenguin16 yeah... Scherzer at 8 was pretty lol

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@@aquarpioleonine3995 Verlander was 8

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrusso6400 But he was an Astro, so that’s hardly Mets bias

Kyle wright not being on this is criminal

@saquanbarkley734

Жыл бұрын

Fax. At the end of the day, when u put him on the mound, u get a win

@bryandevito5120

Жыл бұрын

Leads majors in wins, gets no respect from Mets fan. Sounds legit.

I’ve been ok with every list so far but I’ve got issues with this one

monaoh at 28 is crazy

@brandontong759

Жыл бұрын

Regular season merchant

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how did he even think to put him that low that’s crazy

@kaps1___785

Жыл бұрын

@@brandontong759 so is the panthers and the whole rays offense💀

@bockstaboi6638

Жыл бұрын

@@brandontong759 bro we have seen 1 playoff start

@choppacrewboysgaming6178

Жыл бұрын

@@brandontong759 so is shane McClanahan

Agree or disagree with where you have players, I love that this is becoming an annual thing. Hope to see it next year again.

@jimjames6990

Жыл бұрын

Julio Urias led NL in ERA 2.17 and 2nd in wins 17. He won 20 games last year 2.90 Era. Picked 3rd best pitcher in MLB by bleacher report. Giraffeneck is blind and dum

I’m a Mets fan and fried is criminally underrated. He doesn’t strike guys out at an elite rate, who cares! He doesn’t give up runs and he’s reliable

@gregdiamond6023

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@Insomniack

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been okay with most of Marc’s lists so far. Ofc having some picks here and there I would move a bit. But this list is by far the most I disagreed with, not just Fried (as a Braves fan), but quite a few that I just don’t see. But it’s all about “jumping off the page” I guess rather than game results I guess.

@gregdiamond6023

Жыл бұрын

@@Insomniack I want to know why he snubbed Kyle Wright.

@dannovikoff8454

Жыл бұрын

@@Insomniack yeah mostly agree. I’m somewhat biased bc I played with max a little in high school and always thought he was better giolito despite every scout being obsessed with Giolitos velo. I think urias needs to be higher too. I think fried puts up the same numbers for the next 10 years (sadly, as a Mets fan)

"He fell off towards the end" Manoah won pitcher of the month is september, during that time he pitched to a 0.84 era. That aint falling off

“And that’s why Kodai Senga is the best pitcher in baseball”

Marc still crying himself to sleep over the fact Strider dissed the Mets one time and then proceeded to dog walk them the next time he played them💀😂

@Wolf-lx9xo

Жыл бұрын

Fr, and all he said was that things weren’t going his way that game. I was at it and he can a terrible zone to work with and bullshit like basehits of the bag.

@jasonfondeur376

Жыл бұрын

Lmao why yall crying, Marc literally complimented him the entire segment 🤣 It doesn't take away that Strider always complains

@gregdiamond6023

Жыл бұрын

Marc doesn’t like his Mets questioned. He tends to get salty when his god squad isn’t being revered. Poor Marc.😂

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

@@Wolf-lx9xo Yeah, but that happens in baseball. As a baseball fan first, you want your young pitcher to learn that you can't make excuses for poor results in professional sports.

@davethewolf

Жыл бұрын

lmfao dog walk? he pitched 5 innings the next time out with 4ks, dude barley just qualified for a win innings wise. And with zero pressure, already having a 5+ run lead before he even took the ball.. Then in the postseason couldn't even get out of the 3rd. Y'all Braves fans got ur head so far up ur asses LMAO

Strider made ONE statement about the Mets and backed it up with those advanced stats that you love so much and he's always making excuses when he loses 😂😂😂

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

Believe me, if it was a pitcher on the Mets who made that statement instead, the entire world would NEVER let Mets fans or that pitcher live it down for the rest of his career. Regardless if its true or not, as a pro athlete, you don't make excuses. He's young, so he'll learn, but it never looks good. Even if what he said was true (really, it was, the mets did get lucky, but they also put the ball in play, to their credit), you just dont say it. You just dont.

As a Yankees fan, gerrit cole is not even a top 10 😭

Even though the O's didn't have a pitcher on the list I think for a "bend but don't break" starting rotation they did pretty damn well.

Manoah at 28!!!!!!! Blasphemy

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

Based on performance yeah he's too low, but his regression is very possible.

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanclark1450 have u seen his career so far 😂since he came up dominant he hasn’t peaked yet

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

It’s crazy he is top 10

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

@@meadalofhonor1234 He doesn't get whiffs but doesn't generate enough groundballs to warrant that. He's amazing and can get better, but peripherals project him regressing.

@CookieCrumbleKing

Жыл бұрын

I can make better rankings and this guy cares about strikeouts and strikeouts only

Call me crazy Kyle Wright should be on the list, he was top 10 in NL Cy Young 3.19 era, 1.16 whip, 174 punch outs, 21 wins in 180 innings in 2022

Generally agree with your rankings but this video was a miss for me, still love the content of course you’re awesome dude! My main issues were with Castillo, Cease, and Fried being so low.

@ezclabs6881

Жыл бұрын

and manoah

@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621

Жыл бұрын

Manoah was kind of unfairly ranked too. Lots of question marks on this list.

Max fried at 21 is wild he is better than both wheeler and Nola

@garyweightman5936

Жыл бұрын

I do not like Braves but tend to agree. Nola no where belongs in equation. Wheeler and Fried are both good pitchers but as a Met Fan. We always had more trouble with Fried than we did with Wheeler!

@samg5737

Жыл бұрын

Wheeler is better than both and belongs around 5, Nola around 10 is right, but fried should also be there too

@garyweightman5936

Жыл бұрын

@@samg5737 Wheeler is Good. Fried is too but Truthfully did not see that much out of Nola.Not consistent at all.

@samg5737

Жыл бұрын

@@garyweightman5936 Nola had a bad year in 2021 and was gassed in the World Series … dude has finished top 5 in cy young multiple times tho, doesn’t walk anybody, and strikes out almost a third of the batters he faces. I think that’s warranting of a borderline top ten spot

@garyweightman5936

Жыл бұрын

@@samg5737 OK Top 10 we will see. Sure 1 Bad Year could happen.As a Mets Fan more worried about Phils in 23 so LOL hope not so

Max Fried is criminally underrated

@gregdiamond6023

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

I can understand Kyle Wright not being super high since this was his first full season really being in our rotation, but he should have atleast been on the list. I know you don’t want to put 3 Braves pitchers on the list but you gotta give credit where credit is deserved. Wright was elite last year

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

Wright wasn't elite in any important category. He had a nice year and it resulted in a lot of wins, but K rate, walk rate, hard hit %, ERA, FIP...WHIP....he wasnt elite in any of it. To be fair, this list is a little strange. Wright had similar numbers to Logan Webb and Webb made the list. It's also his personal ranking. Just his opinion. The Braves certainly have a great rotation. I'm actually partial to Ian Anderson because he's relatively local to me. I hope he gets back on track. He has ridiculous postseason stats already.

The DISRESPECT on Max Fried Jesus he had top numbers CONSISTENTLY top 10 pitcher

@blairmcbride5437

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Max is definitely top 10

@spencerscott4336

Жыл бұрын

AND kyle wright💀

@blairmcbride5437

Жыл бұрын

@@spencerscott4336 exactly a 21 game winner with an ERA of around 3 is definitely top 30 material.

Dont understand how DeGrom ends up on top of these lists when he doesn't play anymore.

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

My guy, he ended the season healthy. This is going into 2023.

@alkukayen4150

Жыл бұрын

@@sluggernott641 he's ready to pitch lights out for another 40 innings 💪💪💪truly the greatest pitcher in baseball

“And that is why Justin Verlander is the greatest specimen to ever walk the universe”

Mad respect for aggressively ranking Burnes #2. Dude is an absolute beast.

@JawaPenguin16

Жыл бұрын

Over Verlander though?

@petekowalczuk4795

Жыл бұрын

And over Alcantara Rodon ohtoni and scherzer

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@@petekowalczuk4795 in fairness, at his best Byrnes rivals deGrom in terms of pure stuff, but I agree he shouldn’t be that high

“And that’s why Jacob deGrom is the best pitcher in the MLB”

@coltonottaway

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t he play for the Texans now?

@baseballthor346

Жыл бұрын

@@coltonottaway 😂

@legogandalf5453

Жыл бұрын

@@coltonottaway yeah they picked him up to play QB

@randommax2270

Жыл бұрын

Kersh as is the most underrated player in baseball

@benwolney4869

Жыл бұрын

He is

Marc, great rankings. Keep the content coming. I couldn’t take this list seriously after seeing Manoah at #28…AL CY young candidate, and after a stellar rookie season too? Lol. It’s clear you’ve literally never watched the jays play

@cpsea15

Жыл бұрын

overrated

@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621

Жыл бұрын

@@cpsea15 no he’s not. What’s your argument for not ranking him high. How much lower does his ERA and other stats have to be for you to admit his greatness?

I'm glad you noticed Framber Valdez, cause he's so, so good!

@aquarpioleonine3995

Жыл бұрын

So is Javier. These are top 15 SP

With Justin Verlander I swear he could still be pitching in MLB by the time he's 80 yet still pitch like he's in his prime. The dude is basically the fine wine ofMLB he just keeps getting better with how older he gets

I don’t think a pitcher should be ranked lower because they “don’t have the strikeout stuff.” Producing good results should determine if their elite or not

Romano and now Monoah? The Blue Jays pitching staff is getting severely underrated here. Marc must not like maple syrup, because this dude is making it his job to downplay Canada's team.

@jrdonaldson2053

Жыл бұрын

.

@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621

Жыл бұрын

Yet he says the Jays have one of the best rotations yet underrated them on these bad lists. And yeah, Romano was indeed underrated. Marc’s reasoning for ranking him low was because he didn’t strike out as many batters as year before. Who cares about strikeouts, getting outs is getting outs.

@jrdonaldson2053

Жыл бұрын

@@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621 Lol for real

In a time crunch? I got you. 30. Kirby, SEA 29. Cortez Jr, NYY 28. Manoah, TOR 27. Webb, SF 26. Musgrove, SD 25. Darvish, SD 24. Glasnow, TB 23. Javier, HOU 22. McClanahan, TB 21. Fried, ATL 20. Cease, CWS 19. Bieber, CLE 18. Castillo, SEA 17. Urias, LAD 16. Gallen, ARI 15. Valdez, HOU 14. Kershaw, LAD 13. Strider, ATL 12. Woodruff, MIL 11. Gausman, TOR 10. Nola, PHI 9. Wheeler, PHI 8. Verlander, NYM 7. Rodon, NYY 6. Cole, NYY 5. Scherzer, NYM 4. Ohtani, LAA 3. Alcantara, MIA 2. Burnes ,MIL (NOT better than Sandy.) 1. deGrom, TEX

@mrswizzlestickz2646

Жыл бұрын

This video feels very mixed and all over the place

@Tourszs17

Жыл бұрын

Burnes is better than alcantara

@SpectoRecto

Жыл бұрын

@@Tourszs17 🧢 🗿🍷

@Baseballify

Жыл бұрын

Worst list oat I My respect for Marc after this list:📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉📉

Love the videos Marc, Merry Christmas

Great video!

I knew we were in for something controversial when I saw manoah and Nestor at 28 and 29

@BooBoo_17

Жыл бұрын

I mean, at least both of them top 20. I mean cmon

@Wase616

Жыл бұрын

@@BooBoo_17 manoah is top 10 in my opinion

@samuelsteiner3854

Жыл бұрын

I don't understand how he ranked them so low they both had sub 2.5 ERA's and are always solid

@Wase616

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelsteiner3854 exactly same with fried he’s probably the most underrated pitcher right now

gonsolin and urias not being on here is crazy. Urias with 180+ innings and gonsolin with a sub 2.5 ERA and over 100 innings before getting injured after the all-star break

@big_gulp444

Жыл бұрын

Urias was on here but your right not even HAVING Gonsolin is crazy when your putting Yu Darvish instead.

nice video beast

Immediately so glad to see Kirby in the top 30

Would about Tristan McKenzie he is gonna be really good

As a Yankee fan alek manoah is sooooooo low. One of the best right handed arms in the pros. Time to put respect on that mans name!

Love the videos keep it up❤🎉

Great Rankings!! I have Burnes, Alcantara, Roden, Woodruff, and Webb in my yahoo fantasy pool and I won the league!

Shane McClanahan should be top 10. He is way too low. He was able to be the best pitcher in the AL for half the season, only falling off due to a shoulder impingement, and some extremely statically unlucky games (the average velocity of the hits he gave up in his Guardians blowup start was 78mph). He has a similar strikeout rate to Dylan Cease, yet half the walk rate. He has a better groundball rate than guys like Verlander who are stars, and has had way better peripherals than Alek Manoah, who all projections show regressing next year. McClanahan has 4 plus pitches, something most pitchers could only dream of. The only guys I would for sure take over him right now are deGrom, Sandy, Burnes, Verlander, Ohtani, Scherzer and maybeee Cole, although his stats have been better than Cole since being called up.

@graysonarnold768

Жыл бұрын

you know ball

bro strider said something one time after a bad game, only bc it was against the mets is why he had to bring it up

I'm surprised that you actually put Burnes at 2, as a Brewers fan I'm glad you can see it.

@williamsanchez8652

Жыл бұрын

The disrespect to Julio Urias is insane

As a Yankees fan, I’m so happy we got Rodon and I think both New York teams will be ridiculous this year. Merry christmas

Christian Javier will be in your top 10 next year. I guarantee it, he has Cy Young quality stuff

@grahamman80

Жыл бұрын

If he can improve on his efficiency he'll win the Cy Young.

@paulhopkins1905

Жыл бұрын

@@grahamman80 You mean the 2.5 era or the WHIP under 1 that he needs to improve? 😂

@grahamman80

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhopkins1905 No, I mean his pitch count per inning/game.

@paulhopkins1905

Жыл бұрын

@@grahamman80 he wasn't a starter the full year which is why his innings per game was so low

@grahamman80

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhopkins1905 His innings per start need to be more efficient.

Marc what do you want Cease to do? Win the CY? He just finished 2nd dude. This is really really bad

Manoah should be top 10, he finished top 3 in cy young and is straight nasty, your not changing my mind

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

Learn anything about sabermetrics and your mind will be changed.

@meadalofhonor1234

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@doublersports2866

Жыл бұрын

Has your mind changed yet?

@fatdingo8251

Жыл бұрын

I think your mind has changed rn 😂😂😂

I been rocking with a lot of these rankings but man this one was a little wild

“And that’s why David Peterson will win the 2023 NL Cy Young Award”

As an Astros fan, both rankings of the two guys HOU has in there are right on the mark, although, gotta say, how in gods name to you put Cease and Manoah so low?

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

And Verlander? He was the best pitcher in the league last year

@hmminterestinginterestingi3023

Жыл бұрын

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 I do appreciate him and what he did, and I wish him the best in Queens, but sadly he’s no longer pitching for H-Town

@paulhopkins1905

Жыл бұрын

If you were an Astros fan, you would know that Valdez is a top 10 pitcher.

@hmminterestinginterestingi3023

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhopkins1905 the way Marc ranks isn’t how I would, but he prioritized a high strikeout rate which Valdez just doesn’t have. If we’re talking about overall impact in 2022 and the 2022 postseason I think Valdez was #1

@paulhopkins1905

Жыл бұрын

@@hmminterestinginterestingi3023 Because Marc is a dumbass modern stat nerd that values theoretical stats instead of real world results

As a 5”2 125 pound 12 year old pitcher, Alex Manoah has been my idol ever since he pitched at WVU. Homie dominated in the All Star Game. Top 10 is what I was hoping for

@savagecabbage7208

Жыл бұрын

Why did you tell us your height weight and age💀💀

Was surprised Martin Perez wasn’t on here. He was nasty last year and consistent all year.

@BryanKuchta

Жыл бұрын

Who?

@cpsea15

Жыл бұрын

@@BryanKuchta your mom

How you bouta have degrom at one when he missed half the season

Manoah at 28 is actually insane

Why is Max Fried that low?

Congratulations Marc! This has been your best video! Now, Sandy Alcantara is number 1. Jacob was, Sandy is the current numero uno buddy.

Kyle Wright, the guy with the most wins in all baseball last year, not being ranked is a total joke.

@newaccount5172

Жыл бұрын

nah

Manoah at 28 for K rate might be the most asinine thing I’ve heard

Someting that’s import to note is that with the shift being outlawed next season, pitchers who pitch to contact will suffer more than those who have high K rates. Therefore I think pitchers who strike out a ton (like cease for example) should have been higher on the list. But overall, list is pretty valid.

@seanmccarthy5298

Жыл бұрын

Unsubscribed for putting Cease number 20. Yikes

@sluggernott641

Жыл бұрын

Cease also led the league in walks last year. I think the walk numbers hold him back a little. He also really just broke out in 2022. So he's had 1 elite season in his career so far. If he produces a similar season in 2023 and lowers his walk rate without much change in hit and k rate, I could see him being top 10 for sure.

Robbie Ray last year's cy young not on this list. I agree as well. Hopefully this makes him underrated in fantasy next year, I'll take those innings and SOs later in the draft for sures

“That’s why Justin verlander is not only the best pitcher of all time, but the best athlete ever born”

3rd in AL Cy Young... 28th... 4th in AL Cy Young... 4th!

@lukedeakin7124

Жыл бұрын

He put Fried in 21st, when he finished 2nd in the NL behind a guy who had *6* complete games

I didn’t even realize that was Rodon in the thumbnail 😂

I know it doesn’t mean much in terms of rankings, but Max Fried had an arguably better year that Corbin Burnes last year even pitching in Atlanta vs Milwaukee.

Keep Fried out of the top 20 because of a K rate? What about Cy Young finish? That’s a joke.

I think Manoah, McClanahan and Cease all need to be higher

@aquarpioleonine3995

Жыл бұрын

And Javier

@danieltrujillo5594

Жыл бұрын

@@aquarpioleonine3995 yea him too he was a monster

Merry Christmas

Can you make a list of every team's SP numbering?🙏

I think Luis Castillo should be at least five ranks higher

As a Yankees fan I love the respect you put on Rodon and Nestor they deserve it

@rhibrammii1153

Жыл бұрын

Stfu rodon doesn't count for the yanks dip

@Yankeesfan-il2he

Жыл бұрын

@@rhibrammii1153 Yankees paid for him so he is a Yankee Giants fans mad they can’t keep onto their signings

@ItsJaceYoutube

9 ай бұрын

Rodon ain’t doing too well

Gausman gets so damn unlucky with the shift last year, so with his good FIP I can expect his other numbers to improve with the shift ban.

There is definitely an argument for Martín Pérez in top 30, would love to see him run last year’s numbers back

@jaimelannister1797

Жыл бұрын

nah he's a one season wonder

@ian3740

Жыл бұрын

If he does it again then sure. But he’s a career mid at best arm coming off his only good year

I have agreed all rankings so far except having Justin Verlander at 8 he had a 1.73 ERA

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

While I’ll admit ERA is hardly the best stat to judge pitchers since it doesn’t account for the ballpark or their defense, you don’t get an ERA that low without dominating. Verlander was absolutely the best pitcher last year

@Josias27

Жыл бұрын

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 agreed

@lukedeakin7124

Жыл бұрын

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 How about having more complete games than any entire team in MLB last year?

@brendonbuffaloe8830

Жыл бұрын

@@lukedeakin7124 Yep

@lukedeakin7124

Жыл бұрын

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 I'm talking specifically Alcantara, dude was CY and he was like 4th

Super mets biased in my opinion. Love degrom but at this point his health has to drop him. Very much contradicting yourself by downing pitchers for “lack of innings” or “health” when degrom hasn’t pitched past 100IP since 2019. Fried and Julio should be higher. I praise consistency rather then upside

Just tryna figure out some pitchers to bet on besides ohtani 🤣🤣 this video definitely helped 10 outta ten recommend

28 was overly cautious for manoah but I feel like a lot of 15-30 could be diff places, and all of these pitchers are/should be elite. i feel like all of these pitchers have CY level talent and it’s hard in videos like this when ppl have to be higher than the other when more realistically so many of these pitchers have such similar levels of effectiveness

this list seems to be all over the place

I'm a Giants fan and Manoah at 28 is a joke, and Webb at 27 is a joke as well until I remember you're a Mets fan 😜

Javier at 23?!?! Your rating are pretty spot on but that one is just beyond, I also know people are mad about other rankings too

Hey Marc! I love your videos, I watch them all the time! This list was pretty solid, but there was just one mistake! How the heck is Dylan Cease at 20! The dude was literally 2nd in the cy young voting

Manoah was 3rd in Cy young votes ! Really 28?

Shohei is incredible, but not a top 5 pitcher.

@ryanclark1450

Жыл бұрын

You are tripping

It’s literally insane how bad your rankings are in terms of pitchers. I didn’t think it could get worse than the Relief Pitcher video but this one definitely tops it.

Javier getting love makes me happy