Hey all, just to clarify for this video, the term Overrated can create a lot of toxicity, so I'm being very upfront when I say I LIKE ALL OF THE BOSSES IN TODAY'S VIDEO! Some of them are in My Top 5 of their respective games - Instead, the way I approached this topic was "Does it feel like the rest of the world likes this boss way more than I do?" It's less "Oh, this boss is overrated, it sucks", and more "Oh, this boss gets love I don't fully comprehend, but I'm willing to learn."

@chrislevack405

2 ай бұрын

*hums Britney Spears' "Toxic"*

@SonyStark12

2 ай бұрын

?? Just fckn own it. You said what you said. Don't try n play to everyone who gets pissy over a comment ..

@chrislevack405

2 ай бұрын

@@SonyStark12 ...oddly aggressive...

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

I own it, and I won't go back on any of my comments, but also I just don't care for aggression. I'm just clarifying ^^@@SonyStark12

@issi529

2 ай бұрын

You can better show the demons souls remake instead of the aged original. Btw i disagree a lot with Owl father and yhorm the giant.

Yhorm is a surprise pick to me because I've never seen anyone praise the fight itself. Like everytime I've seen Yhorm discussed it's as one of the lowlights in DS3 and one of the worst gimmick fights in the series, which I agree with, though it's not baddddd

@insert_apathetic6159

2 ай бұрын

He is kinda like the one reborn for me, amazing atmosphere and song but just wasn’t that good of a fight. (But his lore is awesome)

@miimiibeschde4818

Ай бұрын

I once fought him on ng+7 with someone without storm ruler and yhorms healthbar didn't move an inch while He oneshotted us

I like how we get a glimpse of the troll side of you before every reveal. Not malicious, just mischievous.

I think that Gwyn is more overrated than O&S

@hohepriestersulyvahn1749

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I think his moveset doesn't fit for DS1 and the game doesn't prepare you for him. 99% of time you fight against large and slow creatures, but here you get an unexpectedly fast and aggressive opponent.

@debater452

2 ай бұрын

​@@hohepriestersulyvahn1749You can judge Gwyn in two ways. If you have nostalgia for DS1 or if you don't like I do not. Gwyn is carried by lore and plin plin plon, but the actual "fight" kinda sucks

@hohepriestersulyvahn1749

2 ай бұрын

@@debater452 . Yes, I agree. The same I feel about Gherman . Fantastic lore, atmosphere and music, but I somehow can't enjoy his moveset (weird delays and timings), although one definitely can argue, that it's a great fight. I just never got into the fight itself, what I can't say about all the Old Hunters Fights.

@akechijubeimitsuhide

2 ай бұрын

And so is his basic ass piano theme. If they wanted a sad solo instrument, they should have gone with cello or English horn.

@rivertonrock

2 ай бұрын

After battling so many grotesque monsters, fighting my way through disgusting and hopeless environments, after reaching the end of the long and perilous journey… it’s just a guy, gone hollow, with sad piano music. To each their own, but I will never forget that boss fight. 10/10

Finally somebody who understands my frustration with Hoarah Loux. Having a moveset that is 75% one-shot grabs and 25% delayed attacks that are just meant to catch you rolling on mistimed inputs is very annoying. Feel like they could’ve really really polished up the 2nd phase better.

@jdrok5026

2 ай бұрын

The 2nd phase is better than the 1st phase it's all just in the positioning of the boss which takes a bit but the second phase while harder is actually the better phase of the fight. It comes down to the fact that he is designed to punish all bosses are that's kinda the point. Godfrey radahn morgott are all fucking amazing fights they all have plenty of 1 hit kills delays and morgot is literally roll catch the boss.

Damn I’d consider Lady Maria to be way more overrated than Ludwig imo. I don’t hate her fight (I love it, in fact), but I think it gets way more praise than it deserves when you can parry her ass to high Heaven and make it one of the easiest fights in the game, while not parrying makes the third phase feel like absolute bullshit since you often take a lot of damage you have no control over due to the wonky hit boxes of the fire. Love her lore though, and her music is incredible, but she’s far from the best boss in Bloodborne (Orphan and Gehrman for life, bitcheeesssss).

@Woedenaz

2 ай бұрын

Lady Maria's boss fight is carried *hard* by the VIBES. The build-up. The way she moves. Her confidence. The goddamn MUSIC. I will fully admit that her boss battle isn't the most incredible thing FromSoft has ever created but the vibes of that battle are off the goddamn chart. I adore her battle and always look forward to it on every replay.

@bigsmall2842

2 ай бұрын

Mechanically, lady Maria is easily the weakest in the bloodborne big trio. Phases 1 and 2 are a complete joke, and then phase 3 comes around and every attack that you seemingly dodge hits you. The lore, arena, design, music is phenomenal. But as a fight it falls way flat compared to orphan and Ludwig imo.

@NisseDood

2 ай бұрын

@@Woedenaz Kinda like the Ivory king in DS2. Not the best boss fight in the game (especially first part can be annoying depending on build) but damn if his presentation and build up isnt some of the best in the series. Also helps that he was the only king that wasnt a failure and an abssolute chad lore wise.

For me, in Dark Souls 3 I think that The Nameless King is overrated to a certain extent - and that purely comes down to the first phase. The second phase is brilliant, intense and really fun to learn. The first phase, in my experience at least, is just a battle with the camera most of the time and really brings down the enjoyment of the fight.

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Totally fair - I'd say I overrate the first phase of Nameless to an extent myself, as someone who knows how it works, attack timings, camera movements, etc. But the 2nd phase is just so good.

@chriscastaway

2 ай бұрын

I'd honestly say Phase 1 Nameless King is underrated, because I hear literally everyone criticize the whole fight for the camera alone. Personally, I never thought it was that much of an issue and I think people overreact about how bad the camera is because it didn't feel that different to me as it did against Midir

@spice_goat6649

2 ай бұрын

the first phase is easy and over in like 10 seconds tho

@thedarkroom6416

2 ай бұрын

Imo the first phase serves its purpose well it’s not the best but it’s uniqe and like a set piece boss done well😊

Billy, we're throwing hands with this list haha

Dark Souls II- People say Velstadt is one of the few good bosses in the base game, but his moveset is not at all interesting and neither is his arena. His weapon concept is really cool, but that's about it. Darklurker was a much better fight. Bloodborne- Lady Maria. She is just really squishy. I beat her on my 3rd try, compared to Living Failures who I died 20+ times to. And even my younger brother beat her on his first try after suffering against the Living Failures. She is still an S tier fight in my book, but this is a case where overhyping a boss (Maria) and underselling a boss (Failures) really hurt my expectations for these bosses. Dark Souls III- So on my first playthrough of DS3, I have been hearing that the final boss of the Ringed City is one of the best bosses in the series, one of the hardest bosses, and the perfect ending to the trilogy. And when I finally got to Slave Knight Gael, I liked Sister Friede better. She was harder and more interesting to me, and even Demon Prince and Midir were harder, whereas I beat Gael on my 8th try. I even liked Soul of Cinder as an ending better since, by huge coincidence, his pyromancy curved sword build was like my build with Quelaag's curved sword in DS and his mage build was like my mage + greatsword build in DS2. I think if I heard nothing of Gael, I'd like him more, but on my first playthrough I just felt blue balled by the fandom. Still solid, S tier, but my god is he overhyped. Elden Ring- Radahn. I never played him pre-nerf, but he couldn't have been THAT different. His gimmick is cool, but it also causes his health to melt so I don't do it. His attacks whiff me a LOT, and riding torrent makes the fight more fun for me anyways.

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Velstadt, valid point. He was considered, but I find his design & his weapon at least interesting enough to feel unique.

@toshless

2 ай бұрын

truth on elden ring

@seanoconnor5473

2 ай бұрын

Radahn pre-nerf was a whole different animal. It was absolutely brutal. That fight is just epic to me. I love Gael but I can see how people think he’s overrated. Sister Friede is way harder, especially solo. But with Lady Maria, she is truly the archetype of Friede and Malenia. I think a lot of the choices have to do with time and place and who you played first. Maria is definitely not difficult, even without parries but her lore, movements, the progression of the fight, and her OST are just incredible.

@namirakira7138

2 ай бұрын

@@seanoconnor5473 of course, I should have clarified in what areas they were overrated on. Gael and Maria are still S tier in my book from presentation alone.

@namirakira7138

2 ай бұрын

@@seanoconnor5473 what exactly was nerfed about him anyways? Was it his health, damage output, or was there something about the hit boxes?

Ornstein is so janky with that move where he flys at you. Sometimes he will get caught on a pillar then it will send him flying randomly all over the place. I’ve never liked that fight.

My personal reason for liking Hoarah Loux is in fact how insane his moveset is, it's a constant back and forth between you and him, his delayed moveset encourages you to sneak a hit or two before dodging and maintain agression, as well as giving you an opening to regenerate stamina. also, getting suplexed by this seemingly noble and rightous guy was absolutely hillarious when I first played this game. And I have to also dissagree with Owl (Father), It's hard to describe, but the Father version honestly feels sneakier than Great Shinobi, as well as much more intense. The teleporting, the switch up on his sword slam attack, the teleporting of the Inner version, and I love that his pet owl flies over the camera on Phase 2. It's almost like a song and dance between two powerful warriors, who are now on equal footing.

Because of the depth of lies of p, it would be cool to see at least some slight thoughts on their bosses imo. Like I'm super interested to hear what overrated boss you'd choose for it and for other souls videos as well. Please consider this!

@Schwagg86

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Even if you include it as a bonus section. The game and bosses are good enough and similar enough to stand with the FS games

Ludwig overrated ?? Terrible take

@AccursedHawk

2 ай бұрын

Not at all lol the fight itself is mid

Quick question, when are you planning to rank the best souls theme? ( take your time of course)

Lady Maria is surely more overrated than Ludwig! Her soundtrack is great but defo weaker and less memorable than Ludwig's or Laurence's, and she's just another hunter, when you've been fighting those all over the place and by the DLC you're prepared. And I've never met anyone who had any trouble with her and didn't kill her in two or three tries max. Over too soon to be as memorable as everyone makes her. Plus during the game you barely hear of her so when the DLC pops in you hear about her only in the lab right before her boss fight, whereas Ludwig is a name you hear about during the entire original game (Gehrman mentions him in his sleep, a sword is named after him with lore given in the description, etc.) So finally seeing him is peak lore moment.

Finally someone said what should be said about Ludwig

@mr_archer44

2 ай бұрын

Preach! Man is so overhyped

Rhadan. The buildup and anticipation are spectacular. And his visual design is sooooo cool. But I dont think his fight is that fun. The run-up is tedious. You have to get off your horse to dodge the purple arrows. You sometimes cant outpace the trailing arrows if you dont start running soon enough. And you cant outpace them on foot but you also have to get off your horse to dodge the arrow spread he shoots. I just really can believe this is what Fromsoftware intended. But worst of all he has the same problem all big bosses have... I cant see what hes doing. His moveset isnt complicated. But have the time ill get hit because his swords are off screen and idk when to dodge. I love and hate Rhadan

@jdrok5026

2 ай бұрын

You don't have to get off the horse to dodge the arrows even prenerf

@jdrok5026

2 ай бұрын

You don't have to get off the horse to dodge the arrows even prenerf

@austin0_bandit05

2 ай бұрын

@@jdrok5026 The purple ones? Show me 😂. You can hide behind the swords/spears in thw ground but you cant outpace them

YAAAAAS WE'RE AT 19.1K WERE SO CLOSE (also i love your content!)

How is Yhorm overrated when a lot of the community don't like him?

IS THAT FEEL FROM LIES OF P I HEAR???

Btw I think that Midier is kinda overrated in difficulty. Also the second phase is bearly any different from phase 1

@Awoken0

2 ай бұрын

Hmmm phase 2 is the same as phase 2. Truly a mystery.

@kos3167

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, cuz second phase should a completely different moveset to phase 2

@debater452

2 ай бұрын

@@Awoken0 Typo's go brrr

@sentinelslayer8328

2 ай бұрын

Beat his ass with giant Doors and a sniper crossbow on NG+7 to prove a point

@savary5050

2 ай бұрын

@@debater452…edit the comment?

Gael is so overrated its not even funny. He does like the same 3 moves over and over again for like 5 minutes. I get so bored fighting him. The lore and atmosphere is amazing tho

The godfrey thing killed me he is my fav of all time

@gamer_dino69yt

Ай бұрын

"Why do I like him?🤓" "Brave tarnished, thy strength befits a crown"🗿

Sorry Billy, but the Ludwig take was just jank ☠️ but I understand your taste for human enemies, however, BEAST GANG HERE

Imma be fr, for DS3 I’d say the Twin Princes, they were really fun but people praise them so much like they’re such a unique encounter, and yeah Lothric needing to die before the fight ends is cool but what else do they bring to the party?

I think the main reason Godfrey is hyped is specifically because of the transition scene. But for me it's because of the way I fought him. I went from using my sword in phase one to using the caestus in phase 2. Felt pretty awesome doing the 2nd phase as a slug fest. But that is my personal reason for loving it. I have a similar reason for why I love slave knight gael. How my victory over him played out. It leaves an impact. Definitely one of those cases where the way you play the game has a massive impact.

Ok here me out here, but i think Abyss Watchers are heavily overrated

7:15 for me, the more I die, the better the win feels. I died like 80 times to nameless and literally was crying happy tears when I beat him.

I've never played Demon's Souls, nor have I come close to finishing Sekiro, so I can't really say much on those games. But for the others: Dark Souls: Uhhhhhh, Manus I guess? I think instakill attacks take away from a fight, and Manus spams all his magic attacks at once, making dodging a massive pain. Dark Souls 2: Velstadt. Not a bad fight by any means, but as you said about The Lost Sinner, nothing really makes him stand out from the other knight bosses, and he felt too easy for when you face him in the game. Bloodborne: I genuinely don't know. I'd say the Cleric Beast isn't the awesome 1st boss people make him out to be, and the bridge can feel too narrow for a boss that big, but he's still really good. Lady Maria is another one, but that's just due to the fact that she was always less than 10% hp away from death before she inevitably killed me every attempt. Dark Souls 3: Dancer. That Phase 1 grab is THE most annoying attack in the game. If you're not embered, it instakills you, and it has a hitbox that makes DS2's blush at how janky it is. Funny story, I was talking to a friend about this while they were fighting Dancer, and they replied "just dodge" before immediately falling victim to the same attack the same way. Elden Ring: Malenia. It's just the fact that they gave her 3 mechanics to add artifical difficulty (waterfowl, lifesteal and the scarlet rot explosion). Even then, I think the difficulty of this fight is overhyped, I had more trouble against Orphan than Malenia. I hear a lot of people say she's their favourite fight, and I just don't get it. That being said, I do still really like the fight.

My list: Demons souls: Tower knight Dark souls: Manus Dark souls 2: LookingGlass knight Bloodborne: Lady Maria Dark souls 3: Abyss Watchers Elden Ring: Radahn

I love Yhorm for the fight WITHOUT the Storm Ruler. Yhorm goes from a blink and you'll miss it nothing burger to the single best designed giant boss in any Fromsoft game, including Elden Ring. Yhorm's legs are armored, taking reduced damage and low stagger damage. His left arm has a gauntlet, taking more damage but still not great damage. His right arm and head though, those take excellent damage, AND deal full stagger damage. If you stagger his legs or gauntlet, he kneels for a moment, allowing you to freely attack his unarmored hand. If that unarmored hand or the head is staggered though, he tumbles forward and exposes his head for both counter damage AND a riposte. This fight is one of minmaxing your time close to Yhorm to land hits in the brief windows his weak points are vulnerable, while staying alert to potential follow ups that could punish you for going in too early. My only complaint is that his fire roar doesn't hurt you. The first phase roar I'm fine with, it teaches you the timing, but then the giant ring of fire roar in the second phase also doesn't hurt you, and it feels so weird. Fire Giant and the Golems are pathetic in comparison. Fire Giant is just boring, and there is no strategy in smacking his leg. And the Golems are an insult to Yhorm, because they DO have the EXACT. SAME. MECHANICS. Except 99% of them have unarmored legs, and you just stunlock them to death in seconds, or they DO have armored legs and are placed in the worst possible arenas to fight a Golem (Laser Golem). Yeah. Yhorm is the best Giant foght From has made.

I'm not sure who I would pick for DES or DS2, but I agree with O&S being the most overrated for DS1. Bloodborne is hard to say, but I'll give it to Ludwig (even though he's my second favourite boss, lmao). I like Maria better, as she's geniunely way more enjoyable and also Ludwig traumatized me severely on my first playthrough by throughly pounding my ass for god knows how many times when I was underleveled for him. I'll take the 7ft tall vampire goth mommy over that any day of the week. DS3, it has to be Aldrich. Not because he's good, far from it. I just don't think his arrow spam is *that* bad and obnoxious to deal with unless you have an extremely low damage output- you can even punish it in the first phase. Sekiro, I'd say it's probably Divine Dragon. The first phase didn't need to exist, and the second is extremely cinematic...but other than that, it has nothing. Rykard (actually, almost every Elden Ring boss) has that in spades, *and* an interesting moveset to deal with, so I just don't understand how this is some people's favourite gimmick boss. Elden Ring, it is 100% Placidousax, and I could write a short story on why, but I've already done it twice so I won't bother.

I don’t care how overrated Ornstein and Smough are that fight is so hype. Love the music and the slow/fast contrast.

I still think O&S’ only real problem is it highlights camera issuess

Always love your videos I hope your channel grows more and more!

My nuclear hot take is that the most overrated Fromsoft boss of all time... is Gael. Why? Because even if he was the best From Soft boss of all time he would still be overrated given the way people talk about him. He's one of my favourite fights in the game, but people act like Gael can cure cancer. XD

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

See, you get it. Overrated bosses doesn't have to mean "bad." They can be some of the best bosses in the game, but if the fans get too overzealous over them, the hype can have a detrimental effect on new players ^^

@AccursedHawk

2 ай бұрын

Gael is god now don’t talk about him like that

I think that Ludwig is such a beloved boss for one thing, because even though he is not the boss with the most complex moveset, he represents the design philosophy of From Software and Miyazaki at its peak, how there can be humanity, elegance and honor even in the most horrible and decrepit situations that may exist, and the way the game presents it with its setting, its music, cinematic and its movements is simply sublime, for me Ludwig is an emblem of why these games are so good, when I think of Bloodborne, I almost immediately think of Ludwig, If there is something that cannot be denied, it is that he is iconic.

Uhhhh No Billy. Martyr Logarius is way more Overrated than Ludwig! Lore, semi weak, mechanics is the least fun, and finally, when you do a restricted/challenge run, Logarius is a brick wall! Oh and screw the blood knife storm attack.

Ornstein & Smough was a given before I even clicked. They probably earned some credence given that they were the first true challenge for a lot of Soulsborne players.

I respect your choices BUT ,why Godfrey !! 😂😭

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Like, I know he's good. But I just don't see why he's the best fight in the game? Kinda like I'm on the outside, looking in.

@yuvalmenahem800

2 ай бұрын

Okey thanks for the reply

@Arfadoz

2 ай бұрын

Because he didn't learn the fight. He outright admits it.

Ds1:Gwyn Ds2:Looking Glass Knight BB:Ludwig Ds3:Demon Prince Sekiro:Guardian Ape Elden Ring:Godfrey Ludwig is definitely the most overrated boss in the series imo. Still a great fight, but I don’t see why he gets so much hype.

Definitely has to be Guardian ape The 2nd phase fake out comes from a mile away (lady butterfly & Genishiro teach you to expect them), it's baffling that it shocked so many people He's a monkey that farts and poops on you, it's impossible to take seriously. All notes of intimidation and a imposingness evaporate when you realize your sword causes him indigestion Its a good enough fight, sure, but man does he get overhyped

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

He'd have been my other choice. I really love the fight, especially that Phase 2, but I agree it's a bit overhyped for what it ends up being.

Godfrey is designed to force you as player to use every mechanic the game offers. The difficulty in dealing with his delayed attacks are a result of you panic rolling and not actually understanding the attacks.

Since when was Yhorm overhyped? Wait when was Yhorm even hyped at all?

@osurpless

2 ай бұрын

By me personally sure, assuming that his appearance would be a direct tie-in to arguably the most intriguing plotline of Dark Souls II. But from the same game that gives us Quella the God of Sleep as well as Nahr Alma the God of Blood, that was likely too much to hope for…

For dark souls 2, I think Sinh is overrated because I just found him more annoying than entertaining, especially when using a breakable weapon and having it break about 5 times while fighting him. And not going to lie, I think Radagon is overrated in elden ring, a lot of people like to hype radagon but shit on elden beast but I feel like without elden beast, Radagon would’ve been forgettable because his moveset is rather simplistic, the only thing that would’ve been memorable would be when he parries a spell once in a blue moon. This isn’t really a defence of Elden beast but more stating that it makes Radagon look far better than he would be otherwise.

Black dragon kalameet is easily the most overrated boss imo. Really lackluster physical attacks (basic swipes, a dash attack that looks jank, and tail swipe.) His black flame attacks are also lame with one being a straight line that’s brain dead to dodge, a swooping flame attack that is also easy to dodge if you see the tell quickly, and his main sweeping flame breath that is insanely fast and feels like you cannot dodge through the fire at all (thankfully it doesn’t one shot you) I went in expecting a pinnacle for dragon fights/dragon difficulty and got a mediocre dragon compared to what we have nowadays that went down in three tries.

Some of these takes are INCREDIBLY spicy. Owl Father is my personal favorite fight in all of Sekiro. It’s the one I look forward to the most every playthrough. Love Ludwig, I think Laurence is beyond overrated personally. The Last Sinner is the only Lord fight I actually like in DSII, aside from The Rotten. I feel like O&S for the time was truly a game changer, over the years the fight hasn’t aged as well…but that’s about every fight in Dark Souls. They really perfected the gank fight and FromSoftware has been chasing that high ever since with no success.

@osurpless

2 ай бұрын

In addition to going for the last ending last December for completion’s sake, I relished the chance to fight him as well as the Inner version all over again! And to think I feared facing him since even before the DLC mod, thinking he would be far too frustrating to find fun? How wrong I was, but I guess that’s what comes from favoring cheese strats on exemplar bosses like Isshin; you can’t really learn to appreciate the fight if you want to just manipulate the AI?

@seanoconnor5473

2 ай бұрын

@@osurpless I died way more to Isshin than I did to Owl Father but I just feel that fight stands out to me the most. I love the final Isshin fight, easily the hardest final FromSoftware boss. Bar none. The inner versions are even better.

that bait with sir alonne

My picks. DES: Old Hero DS1: Kalameet DS2: Velstadt DS3: Sister Friede BB Orphan of Kos Sekiro: Divine Dragon ER: Malenia Fight me!!

I thought that Yhorm the Giant was properly rated. Either that or I saw how tedious and somewhat boring that fight was after coming from Elden Ring’s Rykard fight.

Someone calling Ludwig overrated? Finally, someone who I can relate to!

I wouldn't say that Yhorm is the most overrated fight in DS3. Many people seem to see him as a let down and I agree. I think that Iudex Gundyr, the Dancer, Abyss Watchers or maybe even the Demon Prince are the most overrated since a lot of people praise them and while I think they are all good, I just don't see them being amazing or anything.

For me it’s for sure Godfrey / Hora Loux Especially his second phase has the jankiest grab hit boxes I’ve seen since dark souls 2. Along with when he combos your mimic and has full invincibility for a full minute. I do like the Godfrey phase tho

@itsallenwow

2 ай бұрын

I wrote that comment before I knew Godfrey was your Elden ring pick lol

after learning every elden ring boss at lvl 1, godfrey/horauh loux is not the best fight by any means, its just that his design is sick. i think malenia is the most technically complex fight they ever done and learning her at lvl 1 is one of the hardest things ive done in my life

for no reason in particular, can the publisher of a video view dislikes? or are they entirely purged

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Lmao, I'm well aware this vid is going to get dislike bombed hard. You can check my pinned comment for my reasoning behind my picks - Most overrated videos try to be malicious about the topic, I wasn't, and I hope that came across in some way, shape or form.

The reason so many people love Father Owl is because of Inner Father. I think once you fight him you can see why he is the best fight in Sekiro.

This is a wicked tough topic. I admire your gumption in taking it on. Yhorm is a favorite for me just because of Onion Bro. But I really like most of these bosses.

malenia is overrated she just has the water dance that ends runs but if you get past it shes fine

I will admit, I am massively biased towards honorable yet tragic warrior men, leading to me auto simping for ludwig and Godfrey, but Midlenia is no doubt the most overrated boss imo in the entire soulsborne series. I feel like too much more modern souls discourse believes difficult=quality, which simply is not the case.

From the games I played: DS1: probably Artorias, his moveset is good but Kalameet snd Manus are still my favorites, i wish he had a second phase though DS2: Looking Glass Knight, his moveset is whatever and the fact he can summon other players can be really annoying DS3: Abyss Watchers are whatever in terms of moveset, a big skill check your first time through but on repeat playthroughs die too quickly ER: Placidusax for sure, good spectacle but he barely even attacks you in phase 1 and then starts teleporting all over the place

I do think youre a little disconnected from the general community here, and i'm not being rude. Yhorm is typically seen as among the worst fights in DS3 and Lost Sinner isnt exactly overrated

I think Billy's feelings while narrating this video showcase the problem with any "most overrated" or "most underrated" boss list in FromSoft games. Yes, it's easy to look at his choices on this list (O & S, Ludwig, Owl Father, Godfrey) and get angry because they are all such fan favorites. For my own part, Ludwig is my all time favorite boss in a video game, Owl Father is my favorite in Sekiro, and Godfrey/Hoarah Loux is my third favorite boss in the Soulsborne series, and I still LOVE O & S all these years later, but that's the thing....the FromSoft community is so huge and so diverse and our opinions are all valid because what should be most important is that we all LOVE these games. So, calling any boss overrated or underrated in these games just feels....off to me. Yes, you can take the pulse of the entire FromSoft community, get a general consensus, then contradict that consensus, but at the end of the day, I feel there will always be a very large and very loyal group of people who disagree with those points. Is there anything wrong with that? No. Discourse and engagement are amazing things. I just never liked the idea of these lists because sometimes people take the choices too personally when the reality is....WE ALL LOVE THESE GAMES AND LOVE THESE BOSSES!!! End rant

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Hmmm, I can see your point when it comes to overrated, but I think underrated is a different topic entirely. When you call something overrated, there's this negative stigma that comes with it, which is what causes a lot of toxicity and a lot of fights to break out in the comments (it's why I likely over-emphasized in this video that I'm not coming at this topic from that perspective). But Underrated videos are generally just a way to platform bosses that don't get discussed by the majority of players. Sure, you've got people who enjoyed those fights anyway, but there's no downside to calling a boss underrated, as the goal is to get more eyes on the fight, and to give them their flowers.

@williambeattie6478

2 ай бұрын

@BillySYT That's totally true. There's nothing wrong with giving a boss flowers that you feel not enough people give them. I think my point there is that, surely there are actually a very large number of people in the community who do actually love that boss and do give them flowers, no matter what that boss is. I think about Dragonslayer Armour as my primary example. Every prominent FromSoft content creator I follow loves that boss and puts them on their list of most underrated....which to me means they're probably just...properly rated. Although I think I'm just a DSA hater who finds the boss to be a bit forgettable and maybe that bias is showing :)

Finally someone talked about godfreys hoarah loux phase its actually ruins the fight for me in phase one you got some nasty compos and everything was so good and feels clean when you dodged it but then there is phase 2 which massively let down for me its attack are so spammy and he just won’t stop attacking especially once you bring his hp par on the last quarter

Alright everyone let's get the essential items: -Crucification pole -Whips -Crown of thorns Am i forgetting anything?

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

Kinky

@TheFrontLines955

2 ай бұрын

@@BillySYT You want kinkier, your next series playthrough you're only allowed to fat roll or in DS2 case no leveling up ADP. As for Sekiro no Mikiri counter

Mohg imo is overrated never like having to use a physic slot for a boss mechanic but idk if mohg is considered highly by the Souls community

@m.h.4907

2 ай бұрын

The boss is absolutely garbage. Need to do an obscure questline for getting the tear and on top of it the lord of blood is weak to bleed. But I could probably make a top 10 list just with ER remembrance bosses alone

@andrewramirez3998

2 ай бұрын

@@m.h.4907the boss is awesome imo and u don’t need to do the questline. u just go to the church and kill the npc

Placidusax in elden ring is definitely my pick. I feel like people just like him because of the cinematic aspect of the fight. I've tried so many times to fight him from the front, but the camera just makes it impossible to see anything, so I always resort to going back to his tail, which might be my problem. His moveset is pretty uninteresting in phase 1, just him breathing fire and a couple claw and slam attacks that always seem to miss, and in phase 2, he's just annoying with the constant teleportation and flying away, which just feel like artificial ways of prolonging the fight. He's still the best dragon fight in elden ring, but I have no idea how someone could like him more than Midir.

Most of the praise for Lost sinner probably comes more from its a boss with a gimmick you can influence from ouside the stage witch was unique and rare even in ds2 itself than the fight itself. Its a shame its so underused in the series with only Dragon Rider, Lost Sinner, Mytha and Fume knight ever havin some sort of such gimmick and well its probably Lost sinner then that does the gimmick the best. Dukes Dear Freja can also get a honorable mention for showing up early in ng+ and actually retains dmg done.

The Best Gank fight I've played in all the souls and souls likes is the FIRST Black Rabbit Brotherhood fight from Lies of P. I think that fight was pretty well done. Though I'm pretty biased as Lies of P is my favorite Souls game. (yes I know its not Fromsoft but its every bit as good and to me elevates it past souls like. Its Souls through and through.)

@BillySYT

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! You'd enjoy my Lies of P Boss Ranking, because I fully agree with you!

@spooky_boi6978

2 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. They’re my favorite fight in that game

Overall I like the takes, another great vid! Best of luck on getting to 20k asap! (Except O&S love that fight lol) My takes (of the games I've played) DS1 - Gwyn Bloodborne - Ludwig (agree! also in the comments is hating on maria thats my fav boss 😭) DS3 - Pontiff (so SCREW ME the second phase isn't that good) Sekiro - Not a boss (sekiro's bosses slap) but O'rin of the water is kinda mid tbh, not at all the best mini boss Elden Ring - Not done with the game but Godrick had a pretty annoying and unexciting moveset

Funny how everyone has a different experience with these games. I feel pretty much the same way you do about Ludwig, but with Orphan lol (still love them both though)

So refreshing to see Owl Father on this list. I always thought that he was overrated, and I get A LOT of hate for that stance hahahaha

I died on ludwig a few hours ago, now i am subscribing

DeS- I’d say false king is the most overrated because he’s the one that gets held up the most while still being a rather simplistic fight. His visual design is great but his move set is limited and the AI is pretty dumb. DS1- This is a hard one because, in general, the boss fights are typically overrated. O&S is a solid choice just because of the sheer amount of praise the fight gets while being out classed by many bosses later on but I’d say Sif and even Kalameet. Sif’s move set is very simple and is more about the lore than the fight at this point and Kalameet, while still quite good, is just not as good as many of the dragon fights in the later games and can be quite clunky. DS2- I’d say Velstadt or Mirror Knight. They’re both good bosses but only stand out so much because they’re in DS2. Very simple move sets and are just not as fun imo than later bosses, even later DS2 bosses like Fume Knight and Sir Alonne are much better. Bloodborne- I can definitely say it’s not Ludwig, who is a fantastic boss, aesthetically, lore wise, and most importantly, the fight is just amazing. I’ve played the game well over a dozen times and just don’t see there being a problem with the camera here. As for overrated, it’s hard because I think most bosses are at least near properly rated, bad ones are considered underwhelming and good ones are beloved with some variance so I don’t have an answer really. DS3- easiest answer of my life, Abyss Watchers. This is one of the few times I simply can’t understand the praise levied on a boss. The OST is great and they look cool, but the fight isn’t that good. The first phase is a complete mess and often defaults to them dog piling each other while you wait for something to die and then having a boring gank. The second phase is just discount Lady Maria. The arena isn’t as cool, the OST isn’t even as good, the aesthetics are lamer, and above all, the boss fight itself is simpler and less complex. Overall, it’s a fine fight but the overwhelming praise is lost on me. Sekiro- Another game where a lot of the general opinions I think are quite accurate. However, maybe the first Owl fight just because the arena is ass. Way too small for all of the area denial abilities but is still a good fight. Owl father is an amazing fight and easily top 2 in the game. Maybe Divine Dragon is a bit overrated because while it’s a solid gimmick fight with great visuals, the first phase is a slog and the second phase is painfully easy. Based on my experience, people seem to let the spectacle skew their opinion on an otherwise just pretty good fight. But perhaps all of these line up with the general opinion. Elden Ring- I believe the remembrance bosses are pretty amazing and, along with Sekiro, is the only time main game bosses stand firmly with the best of the dlc bosses in their previous games. I’d have to say Placidusax is slightly overrated though. I don’t really see how plenty of people think he’s on par or superior to Midir and again I think the spectacle clouds peoples’ opinions a bit here. He’s a great boss with amazing visuals and some of the most memorable attacks in the game, but is quite easy. This wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t for him just letting you sit by his ass most of the fight, continuously hacking at him until he dies which isn’t as fun or rewarding as Midir. I also find it bizarre at the hate Elden Beast gets while Placidusax is pretty similar in just having the player wait around for a long time to disappear, fly around, and teleport constantly for a brief period of time. He uses his disappear and dive bomb attack A LOT and it does take awhile. I don’t have much of a problem with it honestly, but it does amaze me how hated Elden Beast is even though Placidusax does the same thing for even longer.

great video ! I feel I can agree on most of what you said except Godfrey, I just like his pro wrestling moves in his second phase. I'm kind of upset with how Fromsoft did Sword saint Isshin dirty, with his runback being completely unnecessary for Sekiro

I don’t get what the big deal with Malenia is. Yeah, she looks cool but I first tried her every time. Just kidding, she’s hard.

Absolutly with you about Godfrey, rly dont Like fighting him except the cutscenes

Personally, Kalameet is the most overrated ds1 boss IMO. His attacks just feel unnatural and the fight is weirdly janky. It makes it hard to understand what everyone somehow sees in him, best ds1 Dragon boss is gaping dragon. Also I agree with the Godfrey one, he's good but he isn't as incredible as everyone says. I was so hyped for his right and was a little disappointed ngl. I once saw someone rank him above Artorias and I know people have the right to their own opinion but that's just wrong. Artorias's fight has possibly the largest moveset of any early souls game fight and it feels so simple yet perfectly satisfying, I was hoping for the same from Godfrey but alas, I was wrong :(

@evelinetheoofdemon6003

2 ай бұрын

*fight Sorry

Have you fought Godfrey with an unga bunga build? I think that’s why so many people like him. Way different fight (and way better) when running a STR build instead of a DEX build against him

Havent played all of the souls games but from the ones I played: Demons' Souls: Flamelurker (?) Bloodborne: Ludwig (great boss and top 5 in bloodborne but people saying hes the best in soulsborne is crazy to me) Sekiro: Lady Butterfly ( I see much love for her but I think shes boring) Elden Ring: Havent finished so cant't leave my opinion. Havent played any Dark Souls game

@_nenie

2 ай бұрын

Just saw your Bloodborne pick and I cant agree more. I think all the bosses you named + Marytr Logarius are better

for sekiro, my overrated boss is great shinobi owl. its the only boss that other people like but i despise. on a first playthrough he's fun, but on ng+ he's just a nuisance. i missed owl (father) on my first playthrough so i hadn't fought him until ng+, yet still took more tries on great shinobi than on father. i believe the only reason for this is the anti-healing bomb that he throws during the fight and disables your healing.

DS’s was funny for me. I played the original on ps3 and it was a fucking experience for sure. The boss was built up, the real boss came out of nowhere, all of the sudden “PENETRATOR”. And I kinda lost all seriousness for the fight. Good fight and I was (am) immature but cmon??!! Penetrator?

I hate Hoarah Loux but I love Godfrey so much he’s still my second favourite boss. Going after Ludwig & Owl (father) in the same video though, my goodness….you’re brave

Godfrey is in my top 5, however he would be in my top 3 if hoarah loux didn't ruin it. I'd say Malenia is the most overrated, if you search 'hardest boss in gaming', you'd see malenia at the top. however, i don't see how that's even possible, given even with summons, Maliketh is way harder. Malenia only took me less than 10 tries, i was expecting more than that.

Penetrator stand here… yeah I can’t believe I’m saying this, but believe it or not, his move set is more indicative of how great swords realistically would be used compared to how the player character uses them.

I appreciate you adding a boss from every game lol

Artorias is the most overrated in DS1, don't you dare @ me

Billy, I’m gonna die on the hill of Yhorm with you ❤😂

completely agreed on Godfrey. i just flat out don’t like that fight

Inner owl is something tbh

Ds1 was my first souls game and I've played the rest of them in order afterwards (other than Elden ring -havent gotten to that one yet) and I will say that I have never considered just quitting a game other than when battling Ornstein and smough. Sure, since playing the other games they are much easier now, but wow. I don't rage in video games, but I'm still triggered when hearing about Ornstein and smough. Haha

i love yhorm, but do get where hes coming from, siegbro should have mentioned his goal at some point. i always remembered yhorm as kinda easy, but fun. then i did my SL1 rune where i realize he is EASIEST BOSS by far update: no way he put godfrey tho im crying

I knew Ornstein and Smough would get the spot for Dark Souls. There's practically no other boss in the game that gets talked about to that degree. I love the fight, but I agree about the jank. My first time fighting them, I eventually had a death by stun-lock that frustrated me so much I had to put the game down for the day. Still, I enjoy the fight. Can't say I agree on Horah Loux. I guess his tells never bothered me. To be fair with the quip about Malenia, I feel like she's probably too polarizing to justifiably call overrated, lol.

I've never disagreed with one of your takes more than Ludwig 😅 and yet 100% agree on Godfrey

Ooh, good luck with this one. I can already feel the seething rage about to unleash in the comments

I agree with the Ludwig take. He is one of the best Bloodborne bosses for sure, but he isn't the best thing ever, that is completely untouchable, which is how many people talk about him. I honestly like Phase 1 more than P2, it is the best huge-beast-boss in the game, and has like an actual moveset that you engage with (compared to most others where it is just sit below their croch and win). But P2 is not as good as people say. Sure epic, bla bla (he doesn't do that much for me on an emotional level), but his moveset isn't that great. His sword animations look kinda akward to me and don't really sell me on the master-swordfighter- thing, who just regained his mind for his last fight. They are not very difficult, interesting to dodge, and don't feel super good either. In the end it is a pretty good boss overall, that is hard-carried by his presentation and lore.

Malenia and demon of hatred by very far for me, i dont deny that it feels satisfying to beat that does not mean they are good by any stretch, they are terribly designed mainly because they contradict the combat design of their respective games, malenia is basically a sekiro boss and demon of hatred is a dark souls boss, but if i had to choose one its definetly malenia because i always see her at the top of the best elden ring bosses which is always baffling to me.

Yhorm is underrated if anything

This truly is a video of all time

Im gonna have to mention malenia as my pick for elden ring. I know shes the hardest and all that and usually the harder fights in soulsborne are also the best fights of their game but in this case i dont think thats the case at all.

W on Godfrey