Mike Clay putting the Vikings at 8 in the NFC is Insane. Justin Jefferson, TJ Hockenson, Jordan Addison and Aaron Jones. Not to mention Christian Darrisaw who is a top 5 left tackle in the NFL

Great episode, love the content stream this summer and props to the team for constantly finding guest mics for the show! I do find the confusion over *guest list* vs. *Robert's list* continues to slow the convo a bit on these kinds of shows. I think a better format may just be completely ignoring Robert's list completely until *the very end* and then you can milk a few minutes of compare + contrast as a segment with the guest. I think it sometimes with these episodes feels like the guest is coming on to have their list judged by Robert and immediately told *they are vaguely wrong* before they even get into the meat of their argument, which is probably not the flavor you guys are chasing for the conversation.

It's insane how much more knowledgeable Mayes is over any guest he brings on, shows the difference between people who actually watch film and the people who just stat watch to create false narratives

It had alot to do with Seattle's defense never getting the offense the ball

That giant hand in the foreground 😂 excited to listen

Hey, it's where's Waldo The dude on the left

You can watch your #2 Rams get crushed on first Monday night football by the Lions!!

Mays is a self hating bears fan. So who is his 2023 Falcons? I highly suspect it’ll be the 2024 Packers.

@josephpayton7522

4 күн бұрын

That's just good analysis. Don't need to be a Bears fan to see it.

*_MY_* self-important list would be WAS, Cardinals, Giants, Saints, then there's a leap. But to a mish-mash. Since this is about Sup[porting Cast (around the QB presumably) my doubts surrounding play-calling are going to inform most of the rest of this. I agree with Rob for instance that Waldron didn't do Great Things with Seattle. While this doesn't drop the Bears down much, the fact is the great passing game relocated to Tampa with Canales. _But_ Waldron was there *with* Canales, saw what he did _AND_ had JSN, Bobo & Charbonnet a great receiving RB added to only the two High-End yet still, only 2 WRs Canales worked with. _How_ did he do less with that much more? So, 12) Falcons. Who can I rank lower? They're trying to buy a winning roster & haven't gotten anything above mid except Cousins & they were maybe a QB away from winning the weakest division, but not from being true contenders. & they have a VERY unproven coaching staff. So my 11 is the Bucs who improved their roster slightly but whose biggest stars are aging & they lost Canales to the Panthers. 10, the Cowboys. They already under-performed with last year's roster & coaches & have a worse roster & lost their DC. 9, Panthers, 8 Bears, 7 Seahawks. I can't put any of those above coaching staffs who have proven to get more either with less or with their current rosters. So Vikings, Rams & Packers all have to rank higher here. Then maybe the Lions are 2 or Eagles, but yeah, San-Fran still beats them. With one thing: the Eagles may plummet due strictly to play-calling. Fangio? Also Kellen Moore has for two years stuck with a Favorite Pass Play that neutered Justin Herbert & helped Dak lead the NFL in INTs back in '22 *despite missing 5 games.* Herbert actually regressed more under Moore than the previous dog-water OC & Dak was in the MVP discussion _without_ him. I can see them descending to 10th easily.

I was fine with lions being 3 until I heard the explanations lol. An assumed better but still unproven secondary makes way more sense

rob going to need the id on that overshirt shirt youre wearing

You can tell Mike Clay is not as knowledgeable when it comes to football as Mays. Robert was factoring in the playcallers and offensive systems which is very important to a supporting cast’s overall success where as Mike was just going off of name recognition and analytics to determine which supporting casts he thought were the best which is a bad way to look at football

1. 9ers (Tier) 2. Vikings 3. Rams 4. Lions 5. Packers 6. Cowboys 7. Eagles (Tier) 8. Bucs 9. Falcons 10. Bears 11. Seahawks 12. Cardinals 13. Panthers 14. Giants 15. Commanders 16. Saints

@lerrato6027

3 күн бұрын

Bears at 10 lmfao stop talking football you’re clearly a biased Vikings fan

2 years ago the Giants had a very easy schedule which they took advantage of and beat nobody good

Arizona at 16 isnt bad but I consider the giants and the panthers below them

Keep hating on the Rams Mike Clay. They need some more fuel for that "nobody believes in us" fire.

You should change the name of your show to "The ShittyTakes Football Show" by the Athletic

Robert tries his best not to come off as a biased Bears fan and it’s cringe. Bears have a great supporting cast, nothing wrong with admitting it.

Tagline is misleading. The mustache guy talks more about schemes than supporting casts. disappointed

@josephpayton7522

4 күн бұрын

First of all, there was no tagline. The Title of the video is "Ranking the BEST Supporting Casts in the NFC." If you watched the intro, you would have heard the explanation of the parameters defined by "supporting cast," and you would have heard that coaching is a big determining factor in tiebreaks between teams. If you had done that, you wouldn't have misled yourself, and you wouldn't be feeling so dumb and disappointed right now. Better luck in your next video. P.S. Both guys had a mustache.

@markfein462

3 күн бұрын

@@josephpayton7522 Mustache can redefine "supporting cast" whatever he wants to. It's his video. In sports the term "supporting cast" does not typically include the coaching staff. But like I said they can redefine it if they want to it's his video. On the AFC video counterpart everyone has the same opinion as me.

@josephpayton7522

3 күн бұрын

@@markfein462 wrong again knuclehead. Supporting cast almost universally includes coaches, but I'm fine if you don't want to for your videos.