Nice explanation of the video, but my critique is having that grainy moving background took away from looking at how each film looked. They all looked the same because of that background in my opinion.

@thejerkyshack8040

9 ай бұрын

Yeah legitimately unwatchable tbh.

@DanielFewchuk

8 ай бұрын

100% agree - love the analysis, but I found it so hard to concentrate on the example images because of the background, as well as their relatively short time on screen and also looking down at the username of the photographer, but really good comments otherwise

@metalfingersfilm

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, noted for the future!

I'm new to film photography and this video is one of the most straightforward videos I've seen regarding film. Love this, thanks for this feedback and will try Lomo soon.

Lomo 400 is literally rebranded ultramax. Data sheet comparison shows they are the same stock, but you have put one in S and the other in C?! 😭

@emmanuelalvarez3926

2 ай бұрын

Sheep tier 🤷🏽‍♂️

@totesmacgrotes

Ай бұрын

hipsters man

@RAYY_WILD

Ай бұрын

based lol

@emilbuchberger50

21 күн бұрын

but why Lomo 400 is more expansive here in Austria?

@emmanuelalvarez3926

19 күн бұрын

@@emilbuchberger50 import taxes and transportation?

I can't with these price increases. A single roll of Portra 400 would send me back over $30 (I don't live within the us, and film labs love charging more for importing) so I shoot film sparingly I'm afraid. I agree with majority of your tier list and love that you mentioned colorplus 200 - such an underrated film stock.

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's crazzzzzy out there now

Awesome video man, love the descriptions as someone who goes to the store and is bombarded by all these brands and numbers. Thank you.

For non professional work I’ve found Kodak gold 200 and fuji superia to basically be A and S tier respectively for me. A 3 pack of each is $27 and $24 respectively iirc. I stocked up slowly whenever I saw them in stock during 2022 because I was learning the ropes of film shooting and wanted something cheap to practice with. I find superia 400 looks so nice when I shoot it with 1/2 to 1 stop more light and gold always looks solid for me when I’m aiming to shoot it at box speed or slightly slower. HP5 plus and Portra 400 are the other stocks that I have mainly used and I find it hard to disagree with those ratings you did because they’ve consistently provided amazing flexible results for me. It’s made me wary of trying many other film stocks because they are so good for their prices. I’m going to try seeing if I can get my hands on lomo 400(800 is impossible to find for me). Provia doesn’t exist in my area anymore but my first roll came out fantastic so I’ll miss it. I agree that ektachrome is a bit overpriced(but has had great results for me). I’m interested in trying some respooled ektachrome because I’m assuming it should be the same thing as ektachrome but cheaper? Also agreed on ektars skin tones being whack. I thought it might work well on brown skin but I shot some at sundown and my wife looked like an Oompa Loompa…. She was not entertained LOL

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

lmao Oompa Loompa!! that's ridiculous haha, thanks for watching, homie!

@benjaminbuljevic7977

4 ай бұрын

I used to buy 3 packs of Kodak gold 200 for 8 Euro 😭

@kenyelxo

4 ай бұрын

Kodak Gold as a D tier is laughable. I love KGold.

love this list and your notes! pretty new to shooting stills on film, but really enjoyed the results i got with lomo 400 - glad to see i’m not alone! :)

Kodak Colorplus was $13 a week ago, now it went up again to be $16-17 a roll. It is insane, why would someone shoot it over portra?

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts; not sure where their logic is heading lol

@YanGuly

Жыл бұрын

Hipsters

@phabio7839

Жыл бұрын

It was 3-4$ a few years ago

@thanhhuyvo6540

11 ай бұрын

I think Kodak raised the price because their old machine isn't upgrade for more than 20 years, so it can't produce enough rolls to meet the demand from all over the world, and also they just came out of bankruptcy so investors, bankers, who are only interested in profit are not willing to risk money for Kodak to upgrade the machines. So Kodak decided to balance supply and demand by raising prices until demand fell to equilibrium.

@kleanish

11 ай бұрын

Have seen it for 10 recently!

Awesome review! Really helps!

Great tier list! I'm getting into film photography and this helped a bunch! The only tier list where I didn't just skip to the end to see the results! :) Thanks

Portra is $25 a pop here in Norway, plus $25-35 to get it developed. So it basically costs me a mint Nikkormat camera to just shoot and view a single portra 160 (which is insane).

@michaeljohnson8825

11 ай бұрын

Hello other Michael Johns(e)n, that is absolutely brutal. If you want advice, you should look into getting a scanning set up with an older mirrorless or DSLR. It has saved me so much money, alongside at home developing (BW only). Cheers!

@MichaelJohnsenOslo

11 ай бұрын

@@michaeljohnson8825 Thank you fellow MJ, I did see a video from grainydays detailing how to do this, so I might use my sony a7r3 as a scanner in the very near future :)

@RraMakutsi

9 ай бұрын

Uff Da!

@Nitidus

3 ай бұрын

​@@michaeljohnson8825C41 developing at home is incredibly easy if you use a sous vide machine to keep the chemicals at the perfect temperature in a water bath. And it's really fast as well, but you can also develop more slowly at lower temperatures. Some people are afraid to do it at home, but it's really not scary at all!

@malypavel25

3 ай бұрын

Same in Czechia, but i’ve never seen a camera that cheap.

That double exposure image at 11:13 is SO COOL!!!

First of all, it's good to see this list being updated for 2023. Some things have changed since the last one was put out a few years ago, and I mostly concur with where you ranked these. Thanks for the work that went into putting this together. I do have to say that I'm wondering about your placement of Ektachrome on here. No, it's not the easiest film to shoot; it's definitely not for the run-and-gunners. It's expensive and you have to meter carefully. For those who can slow down and take time to get a good exposure, though, even bracketing occasionally, the payoff can be well worth it. Have you seen David Hancock's excellent review on this film? He makes a strong case for E100 being one of the best films on the market, objectively with faithful color renditions throughout the spectrum. It's possible that we're using different criteria, but even with cost and exposure latitude factored in, it deserves no less than a B on the scale here. In strict terms of quality, it belongs right up there with Portra.

Bulk load Vision 3 500t for color and Double X for BW - those two are my go to film stocks I use the most.

A solid watch. Loved it. Cheers!

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Thanks for enjoying and supporting!

Good summary! Ektachrome is a real 'photographers' film, hard to tame, stretches every ounce of skill you have, but when you get it, IMO it's epic. I have a bugbear with Cinestill though. To me it's a marketing gimmick. The ONLY selling point is this halation but that can be easily achieved and better controlled with just a bloom filter. The advantage of the remjet being removed means it must be compared against other c41 films and when it is the value proposition goes away. Better to find a good lab that can handle ecn2 and buy the repackaged motion pic films with the remjet on and a bloom filter 😂

On thing to note is that I've seen Portra 400 go for $79 in a 5-pack, which has been a stable price for the last few months. If you're outside the US it may be different, but here that comes out to $15.80 a roll

@catoi6324

Жыл бұрын

Also just other stuff I'm noticing, not sure if I just live in a pocket dimension or something, but over on B&H Fuji C200 is more expensive than Gold 200

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Hmm interesting!

I love Ilford 3200..great to have on hand for low light photography..

Holy shit! Just a few years ago Portra 400 was $5 a roll 35mm. I hate this inflated price.

Did a double take when I saw the pictures of the vintage gas station with the Sinclair dinosaur. Cool to see you visited Oshkosh haha.

Just an old photographers perspective, not a criticism. Boy have things changed from when I started when there the main choice was between orthochromatic and panchromatic - the former the choice for home development because you could develop it under a red safelight. I suppose panchromatic was considered more professional. For color there was Kodachrome ASA25. So for me both Ektachrome and color negative films were welcome innovations. For perspective I bulk rolled just outdated Kodak XX ASA 200 for a penny a shot and put a roll of film a day through a Leica lllg to train myself to recognise the moment in that dim little viewfinder. Just re-engaging film a bit and delighted to see such renewed interest. Exercising the Nikkormat FE and Kiev 4. Otherwise very happy with m4/3 Oly and Pana cameras and lightweight lenses.

I would love to know where you would place the Rollei Retro series films. 80s, and 400s. My personal favorite is the Retro400s. (Edited to fix the film names)

It would be nice to see a summary of this tier list

excellent video man!

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

thank you Justin!

thanks 4 the list

I usually get Fuji C200/Gold 200 for colour, and Kentmere 400/HP 5 400 for black and white. Film prices have increased like crazy recently. Here in India, back in 2019 the prices were : Fuji c200 : Rs200 Gold 200 : Rs 500 Kentmere 400 : Rs 500 Ilford HP5 : Rs 800 Now its all much more expensive, sometimes 2x or 3x the price. Insane.

@amaan9842

7 ай бұрын

I got Gold 200 for 1200 from Amazon 😭

@mrnobody3952

6 ай бұрын

​@@amaan9842lut gaye bhai 😂

For what and how I shoot: 1. Rollei Retro 80S 2. HP5+ / Kentmere / PanF+ 3. Fomapan 100/400 (just cause of the price and abuncance in EU) Other film to me is too expensive and/or too much work to develop and scan at home.

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

This is a great, and responsible list!

@KNURKonesur

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm that's what happens when you start photography as a teenager in a country where you can't work until you're 18 and the country has been occupied for over 150 years so you have absolutely no money :D

I picked right time to start with film photography

i don't agree on kodak gold 200, in europe its possible to buy it for 8 euro per roll(i bought a few packs of 3 for 25 euros each) and for this price its amasing

@kackenderkevin

Жыл бұрын

gold 200 ist 6euro at my local store

@toxotis70

3 ай бұрын

@@kackenderkevin here is double that price!!!

@planeteatrr

3 ай бұрын

Lately I paid 19€ for a 3 pack. Much cheaper than fujifilm.

Great video and tier list. Odd that the only film stock I can ever find at Walmart, CVS, or Walgreens is XTRA 400 which I do personally enjoy quite a bit.

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I agree on most of your choices. Although I would switch Fuji 200 and 400.

Any one got good recs 35mm film stocks ? I got just a point and shoot , looking for something has a lotta color and somewhat high grain

Kentmere PAN 400 just launched in 120 and it's super cheap here in Canada. Not as flexible as HP5 but it's usefully punchier at box speed. Less than six bucks a roll...(USD)

I like Ektar a lot for half frame because of the contrast, resolving power, and fine grain.

I recognise some of these pictures as Durdle Door, in Devon, England. nice

I handled all these films in a commercial lab and know them inside and backwards. Fuji Pro400H, or NPH outclassed all the others. Drops Mic. It did everything superbly, and in 120 format was astounding. However, no commercial photog before dSLR would be caught dead shooting color print for landscape. Provia 100 rules for this. The one print film that needs to be brought back is Kodak RG-25. Dude, you would soil yourself if you Royal Gold 25 for landscapes.

Current prices in my country: ColorPlus 200 - 9,50€ // Portra 160 - 16,99€. One roll of Portra therefore costs 7,50€ more, pretty much 80% more. I stopped buying _any_ new film last year, but if I needed like one roll here and there, I could not justify paying almost twice as much for a roll of Portra. At the end of the day I now spent _significantly less_ money on film than before, all due to Kodak's insane pricing policy. They shot their own foot with that one and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Funnily enough, what kills film off eventually might not be a lack of interest at all but just another case of common corporate greed.

Great video. RS. Canada

B&W side i really rate Ilford FP4, nice and contrasty and also super tight grain. Probably wouldn't use it in a 35mm as its quite restrictive ISO wise, but with interchangeable backs its brilliant or if you blow a full roll in a day.

your portra 160 and 400 look so grainy? mine seem way less grain. 1:34 looks undercooked

Priced 5 rolls of portra 400 and 5 of c200 and they were the same price??

I don't know why CineStill is so low, I never used to be able to shoot colour film outside handheld at night before this came out. Were is Tmax?

I think ranking c200 as the gold repack version isn't super fair. You can still get REAL c200 on the market if you're lucky. So I'd do new c200 (gold) rank it as just discount gold and then real c200 as an actual fuji stock. I personally love gold, be it in an orange or green package

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you're right, but I can't seem to find C200 anywhere reliably, and eventually that will run out, and the new stuff will be all that's available, I presume,.

@segarallychampionship702

Жыл бұрын

Also they're two different films, at least in Europe. Fujicolor C200 is the original stuff while Fujifilm 200 is the Gold rebrand.

@catoi6324

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm from what I've heard, Fuji is planning on moving back to their own film, but these are strange times we live in

kodak gold >

I think you did the Black & White films an injustice in your ratings. There is so much more to Black & White photography than popularity.

Lomo 400 my now go to. I used to shoot with Portra 400 since I shoot portraits most of the time but the continuous price increase is too much for me honestly

The photos are so impressive and beautiful.

this was great! are you able to rank 120 film stocks? 🙏🏼

The only thing I would have swapped is superia and c200. Superia can be hit or miss, but sometimes those vibrant colours really hit.

Personally shoot Hasselblad v system and really love Kodak Gold, actually prefer the results I have got from Portra 400... By far my favourite colour film to date. Don't currently shoot 35mm so can't comment on if the resolution would make me change my mind.

I would disagree with you on slide films ---- they make an excellent treat. I've used a mix of ektachrome, provia and Ultramax for holidays (And Velvia 50)

Would have been nice to see you compare Velvia 50/100 to e100

@randy25rhoads

5 ай бұрын

Seriously.

The best thing is where I live the "overpriced" Kodak films are like one third of the "cheap" Fujifilm version. Interesting indeed.

So glad i can still get Gold for around 6€ per Roll regularly and Ultramaxx for 9€

I've shot both kodak gold 200 and fuji c200, and they don't appear identical to me 🤔 kodak gold still has its goldish warmer tones, which are really noticeable when i look at the clouds on my kodak gold 200 pictures versus my fuji c200 ones May i know where you heard that both rolls are the same?

@chimmychungus

Ай бұрын

He messed it up, fujifilm is kodak gold, and fuji c200 is different

fuji Velvia 50 makes your Ziess lens shaper.

Damn, i'm new to analog film and haven't used it since early 2000's. Just bought 2 rolls of Kodak UltraMax because i was gonna get some nice retro photos and now it's almost at the bottom of the list, lol! Really sucks that our local store doesn't offer any other film than Kodak Gold, UltraMax and ILFOCOLOR Vintage. Maybe i should have bought the Ilford after watching this video.

Fuji xtra 400 has been replaced as well! Maybe it’s now repackaged Kodak 400 speed film

Beneficial video for someone who is just entering the film world (me), thanks! Also, many shots are from Maine, I believe. I recognized the Cutler Shore and Moosehead Lake area, wish I had a film camera there too

Not sure how to download the completed tier list…

you did kodak gold dirty. in countries outside the US its pretty hard/very expensive to get fuji c200, so gold is by far the best value for money. its both cheap and has decent colours

Kodak gold 2 here is actually 7-8€ per roll. It's the cheapest film I can find in germany but then again yeah not sure how it's like over there in the US

Damn lol I got baited with the Luminar 100 boxes on the thumbnail.

You left out the best two Colour Films available today. Velvia 50 and Ektachrome E100

New 400spd Fuji film is repackaged Kodak stuff I think.. Pretty decent. Have found it for $22 for a 3 pack.

An interesting look.

B&H still has a 400H for sale, over a year after being discontinued.

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Is it super expensive or not too bad?

@goldenhourkodak

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm As cheap as Kodak Gold

Oh, hey, they make mic stands and mic clips now. Think they came out only a few months ago. You should check them out so you don't have to be like everyone else and hold your mic.

Just any fyi, Ilford HP5+ can be pushed to 3200 and still look beautiful

I been getting great results with Ektar 100 (portraits) on my medium format cameras, I really don’t see no value for it on 35mm. Fuji 400 has been my go to for the past year, I am sad they changed up and it looks like it will be a Kodak film with Fuji packaging. It better not be Kodak ultramax

S tier video

What about Kodak ProImage 100?

Fuji Pro400h my favorite.

What about Velvia?

Well, I guess I got lucky when I bought a few Kodak UltraMax 400 for 5.99€ (~7$) earlier this year when I see all these price hikes now😅

Tri-X is my favorite. HP-5 I shoot sometimes but it doesn't grab me.

@kjak94

7 ай бұрын

I'm an HP5 enthusiast, but ONLY when I push it at least a stop. Otherwise I'd agree, it gives a pretty flat look.

I remember when ColorPlus was $7 per roll

i was under the impression that kodak gold 200 gave warmer tones while fuji c200 gave cooler tones. this this an inaccurate statement?

yo we have the same fridge. the gaps on the bottom of the door shelves are super annoying

@metalfingersfilm

3 ай бұрын

lmao wow; real ass comment.

Generally agree, but the list is incomplete. Many currently available black and white films are not covered: Kodak T-Max series. Ilford Delta 100, Delta 400 and FP4+, Fuji Neopan Acros II, Fomapan…

Don't agree with Delta 3200. I think its need to be at least at A. If we are talking about situations, where you NEED bigger ISO for making dark pictures normal, the Delta 3200 the best choice. It is good for specific goals (you wouldn't buy Gold 200 for making pictures in night-evening, innit?). Also, I don't agree with Gold 200 and E. For price of Gold 200, you can make VERY good pics (saw that even pros using Gold 200 than Portra at all). So, I think Gold 200 should be like an B at least.

The pro400h on ebay is crazy.

Is S the best and D the worst?

So hard to notice the difference with the grain background it’s like a optical illusion

Ferrania P30: tier S++ 😱

I am surprised you didin't mention halation with the 400d. Don't dig highlight halation on landscapes. I would consider this more of a niche film.

Wow... LOMO 800 is an S tier film fooo shooo blood

12:13 "being that pretty much anyone has a Walmart close to them" - not sure man, 3280 miles in a straight line to the nearest one :P

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Where tf do you live..!?

@KNURKonesur

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm Scotland :D

@alexw335

Жыл бұрын

~6500 miles as the crow flies for me here in New Zealand

@alexw335

Жыл бұрын

Though I think the crow would be long dead by the time it could fly that far

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Haha, my bad. I have this perceived notion that mostly Americans watch my videos. SO COOL to see people around the world commenting!

Those are very different film prices compared to what I am seeing. Lomography branded films are more expensive than kodak films in Europe.

bruh where are yall getting these prices

i like C200 but i dont know why it's more expensive than kodak 200s in my country

where is the Silbersalz35 Filmstock?

Ektar has a strange extra blue taint touch that I find quite annoying.

I wouldnt say ektar is the best landscape film ever. That praise goes to kodachrome 25 and the film you can still buy, velvia. Only issue with velvia now its basically $40 a roll which is ridiculous

Putting Ektachrome 100 in C-tier because of user error is odd.

Hi metal fingers i wanted to ask you which film camera should i buy that takes really sharp good quality film photos??

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

Hey Stefan! I have another camera tier list coming out Sunday, so stayed tuned for that! Otherwise, I'll link some videos I made previously taking about the best 35mm cameras.

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

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@stefansalvatore3628

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm roger that will wait but what about contax t2? does that fit in the description i mentioned

@metalfingersfilm

Жыл бұрын

@@stefansalvatore3628 it does, but that's quite an expensive camera for the description, I think the OM10 would be good and is only $100 or so

@stefansalvatore3628

Жыл бұрын

@@metalfingersfilm yeah i know it’s expensive i’m saving up for it as long as it takes sharp and high quality photos i’m ok with it although i see other people’s photo samples of the contax t2 and they aren’t very impressive and others show their photo samples and those are impressive so i don’t know if it actually takes high quality and sharp photos or not? does it?

I LOVE kmax400 it deserves at least B tier. It’s the film of our childhoods! EVERY grocery store camera came with this shit and every point and shoot would get spooled with this. How can you say a cultural icon is c grade?

@metalfingersfilm

7 ай бұрын

hahaha, fair, I guess I added the +1 nostalgia for gold but not kmax

me cont. to stock up on fujipro 400h in the freezer

Haha I guess its different for different countries because fujic200 is around $20 for one roll here💔

Me when I exclusively shoot with Kodak Vision because im poor