What’s you’re tier list? Include every series you’ve even started. This is the final video I’ll be collecting data for a future video going over all the fantasy data.

@berserker8884

5 жыл бұрын

We are tier list we are Bob. Wait..no. ahrm. Good list, happy you didnt trash Kingkiller too much leaving me with my sanity intact, I think.

@gracelingaccountant

5 жыл бұрын

If I included every book I've ever read I'd be here forever BUT The Faithful and the Fallen series by John Gwynne is by far S Tier for me

@astraliguana9485

5 жыл бұрын

I think the Malazan Book of the Fallen only really gets spectacular after you've finished them and you can appreciate the way he strings the seemingly unconnected narratives together into a cohesive piece. Some things that seem inconsequential and that make little sense early in the series foreshadow things which happen much, much later on. It's really, really clever. I still prefer Joe Abercrombie's writing style though. Especially during 'Best Served Cold' and 'The Heroes'.

@camanal404

5 жыл бұрын

@@gracelingaccountant John Gwynne is God Tier

@camanal404

5 жыл бұрын

@@astraliguana9485 Best Served Cold and The Heroes especially are utterly jaw-dropping

01:02 - The Riftwar Cycle - B 01:55 - Malazan - A 02:40 - Doc Savage - C 02:52 - The Powder Mage Trilogy - B 03:32 - The Dark Tower - A 04:08 - The Dresden Files - B 05:22 - The Witcher - S 06:04 - Lord of the Rings - S 06:14 - The Sword of Truth - D 06:16 - The First Law - S 07:59 - The Broken Empire Trilogy - C 08:42 - Harry Potter - B 09:51 - The Poppy War Trilogy - B 10:59 - The Licanius Trilogy - C 12:43 - Lightbringer Series - S 13:44 - The Stormlight Archive - S 14:40 - Gentleman Bastard Series - S 16:06 - Broken Earth Series - A 16:58 - Forgotten Realms - B 18:17 - The Kingkiller Chronicle - C 19:16 - A Song of Ice and Fire - A 20:19 - His Dark Materials - B 21:32 - Earthsea - A 22:02 - Black Leopard, Red Wolf - C (*quality A or S, enjoyment C) 23:47 - The Mistborn Era 1 - S 24:52 - The Mistborn Era 2 - B 25:34 - The Wheel of Time - S Alternatively, by tier left to right S Tier 05:22 - The Witcher 06:04 - Lord of the Rings 06:16 - The First Law 12:43 - Lightbringer Series 13:44 - The Stormlight Archive 14:40 - Gentleman Bastard Series 23:47 - The Mistborn Era 1 25:34 - The Wheel of Time A Tier 01:55 - Malazan 03:32 - The Dark Tower 16:06 - Broken Earth Series 19:16 - A Song of Ice and Fire 21:32 - Earthsea B Tier 01:02 - The Riftwar Cycle 02:52 - The Powder Mage Trilogy 04:08 - The Dresden Files 08:42 - Harry Potter 09:51 - The Poppy War Trilogy 16:58 - Forgotten Realms 20:19 - His Dark Materials 24:52 - The Mistborn Era 2 C Tier 02:40 - Doc Savage 07:59 - The Broken Empire Trilogy 10:59 - The Licanius Trilogy 18:17 - The Kingkiller Chronicle 22:02 - Black Leopard, Red Wolf D Tier 06:14 - The Sword of Truth

@tgm595

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this list. He tends to ramble a bit and I lose interest.

@DameDatte

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this! You missed mistborn 1 on S tier list :)

@username4261

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you❤️❤️❤️

@LankanLatino

2 жыл бұрын

@@DameDatte fixed thanks

@sammedcode2241

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! Given his latest review, we can add the Green Book Saga to S tier.

Terry must be pleased that he has a tier all to himself. He really is in a league of his own!

@fredrikgranstrom6743

5 жыл бұрын

sure is and full of himself too.

@cmmosher8035

5 жыл бұрын

Well of course The Sword Truth doesn't rank well on this list. It's not really fantasy don't you know?

@TheRazCooper

5 жыл бұрын

Cm Mosher It’s also complete garbage, which tends affect how well something fairs in a ranking video

@cmmosher8035

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRazCooper I have to agree but saying that is not as fun as being cheeky about how Goodkind doesn't see the series as fantasy.

@scottgarrison9483

5 жыл бұрын

It's decent.

I'm seeing a lot of back and forth with Name of the Wind, and I get how people say it draged, but I think that the way the story is told is the so new and unique to me with a character who is alone but not some dark depressed loner, one of my favorites but I see how it's not for everyone

@isaaka977

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@matthewbaer4031

3 жыл бұрын

Oh the dark alone things not new if you’ve been reading for a while authors think they have something ne but it really isn’t although name of the wind solid s teir

@JustScrapHD

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbaer4031 its kinda refreshing in fantasy though. Usually the main character isnt a prodigy who´s biggest problem is his overconfidence

@vector3366

3 жыл бұрын

To keep it simple the MC had everything going for him and more and he was a perfect person and everyone praised him and for me I got tiered of that and I stopped reading the book Sometimes everything was going for him that it didn't make sense like how much his friends loved him

@frandaart

3 жыл бұрын

@@vector3366 i didn't feel it that way at all. Sure, things worked out at the end, but he had plenty of problems (scrounging money, the blond rich guy, etc). He was a really social person, that's all. He had plenty of social circles: the other students, the teachers, Denna, the bar attenders. The dashes of pretentiousness we do see in the book are in fact due to how the story is told: from his own point of view. A veil is drawn over all scenes which forces us to see him in a good light. The role of the reader is im fact to realize that he is really sure of himself, and can't see when he's gone over the edge. In fact, I believe in Day Three there'll be a present-day event where he realizes that, and humbles down.

Name of the Wind is such a pleasure to read. So subtle, yet memorable. Its an S in my list. Maybe the best I've read in this genre.

@trenchking08

3 жыл бұрын

Subtle? What was subtle about it? Kvothe is perfect at everything lol

@lionandhippo

3 жыл бұрын

It's awful. It's pure wish fulfilment, and he cannot write women. The only good thing is the quality of prose. It's like every fantasy trope stacked on top of one another.

@BetaJim22

3 жыл бұрын

@@trenchking08 I don't understand the people who say Kvothe is perfect at everything. He constantly gets himself into trouble with his temper and trooper tongue. His pride is a major fault that has changed potential powerful allies into powerful enemies. Yes, he is intelligent and skilled in many things to such a degree that he could even be called a savant; but he wastes his potential more often than not due to very human failings. I'd be surprised if you didn't know someone IRL that seems like everything comes easy to them but fails to realize their potential.

@trenchking08

3 жыл бұрын

@@BetaJim22 I guess, for me, the second book was what solidified that thinking for me. He had personality flaws that were glaring and then some fae shows up and in his first time he is amazing??? Come on. Pride is his only flaw. Literally. And for characters like that having pride be the downfall is pretty overdone. You would be surprised? You are telling me you know someone who is a world class musician, scientist, engineer, poet, and porn star? Because that is basically what Kvothe is. I dont know a single person that would meet one of those categories much less all at once.

@BetaJim22

3 жыл бұрын

@@trenchking08 It never says Kvothe is amazing in bed. That Fae is basically just a Nymphomaniac and only actually becomes infatuated with Kvothe after their "battle". It was his naming ability and his bluff of indifference to her sexual prowess that intrigued Felurian not him being a god of sex or anything. Even after spending what was probably years with Felurian none of the many girls he was with seemed to mention him being particularly gifted at sex. It is mentioned a couple of times that his fae experience intrigues girls but none of his relationships last long often ended (by the girl) after sleeping with him. People assume he's gifted at sex because he talks confidently about the subject and it's told in the first person view, but if you actually look into how others react after the experience and what they say it's nothing more than some expected embellishment and bragging of someone talking about their own sexual exploits.

Me, new to fantasy: S tier looks like a good reading list

@B00STERG01D

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@siddhartha894

4 жыл бұрын

A song of Ice and Fire should be S but i kinda get why he puts it in A, the style changes in the 4th book, focusing only on one part of the world, many didnt like this but i think it works better as we see more back and forth between characters but i still kinda get why people dont like the 4th and 5th book compared to the first 3 but i think the opposite but yeah, Read A song of ice and fire

@muskatDR

4 жыл бұрын

Start with wheel of time Bite the pillow that book aint gentle...

@satana8157

4 жыл бұрын

@@siddhartha894 Martin himself didn't like that either. His book was too big, and they had to do something about it. Publisher suggested to him they do a volume I and a volume II, but martin said if it's 2 books each of them should end in a satisfying way which it wasn't. Finally someone told him to divide it geographically, and that's what they did. But most of the good povs ended up in one book, and they had to bring some Aria chapters to other book to make it better. But eventually Martin didn't like it very much and he said he would never do that again. It could be one of the reasons it's taking him that long to finish the series.

@regarded9702

4 жыл бұрын

Can’t recommend The Witcher enough if u haven’t already read it

S- Difficult to pronounce letter for some people. I say it's D-tier. A- King of the alphabet. First and one of the best letters. Easy S-tier pick. B- Also a strong letter. Gonna assign it to A-tier. C- Somehow, I'm just not really feeling it with this classic. Gonna put it in B-tier. D- Well this one was fun for a while. Now it's lost much of its charm. But, for nostalgia alone, I'll put this letter at C-tier.

@merlin2k6

5 жыл бұрын

Don't know if this wins best comment but it did make me chuckle. 😂😂

@jevonscantlebury9834

4 жыл бұрын

what about D's meme potential, it is by no means the best but it always a good time A-tier

@zachgranat5518

4 жыл бұрын

@@jevonscantlebury9834 D's meme potential has unfortunately been eclipsed by H in the current meta.

@RexusprimeIX

4 жыл бұрын

C is a shit letter, it's trying to be a jack of all trades, not knowing if it wants to be an S or if it wants to be a K. Z-tier, I wish that letter never existed.

@KingJames-nb9jl

4 жыл бұрын

S is the easiest letter to pronounce

Name of the wind is one of my top five fantasy stories ever LMAO. I love the writing style so much. It's the series that finally inched up above wheel of time for me, or at least tied it as favorite. Wheel of time, name of the wind, and Robin Hobb's books in Fitz's world

@agustingomez9875

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 100. Absolute bangers that will give memories for life. Do you know if Hobb is writing anything after assassins fate? I hope she does. Cheers!

@ruthanneperry1623

2 жыл бұрын

I liked those authors too have you read Howard Fast?

@radianthealthmassage

2 жыл бұрын

Robin Hobb connected me to my emotions as a reader than any other series, scene by scene...

@queengoblin

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, yes same for me. Fitz is such a beautiful character.

@richardrahl1001

2 жыл бұрын

Name of the Wind is easily better than 1/2 the books on this "S" tier list. Rather disappointed with the listing.

Im surprised you hadnt read Eragon. I thought every fantasy loving teenager read that book.

@filipzajac4104

3 жыл бұрын

He had, but it's not his favourite fantasy book

@PaulW50

3 жыл бұрын

Loved Eragon in my youth, but now, having read some real fantasy like Sanderson, I think it definitely can't compare

@calebh101

3 жыл бұрын

They are fantasy for people that don't like fantasy

@BrentLooyenga

3 жыл бұрын

Eragon, heard great things. Did the whole series. Easy C tier, maybe D. So hard to get through, so unimaginative, such a small world.

@corrinecorrina213

3 жыл бұрын

i tried, but couldn't get through it. was kinda boring

You should make a tier-list of your tier-list videos.

@stepheneveris5920

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Please.

@HarveyGinger

5 жыл бұрын

Please do this!

@tobs1433

5 жыл бұрын

i would love to rank this video

@davids2735

5 жыл бұрын

Tier list inception

@xcBlackDiamond

5 жыл бұрын

Might as well at this point lol

Daniel: "I know there's a lot of S tiers. there's going to be less!" Wheel of time logo slowly appearing from under his face

Me thinking he was going to put “The Name of The Wind” in S Class without thinking

@sandman2794

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon sanderson better than patrick rotfhus

@isaaka977

3 жыл бұрын

i’m sorry but name of the wind objectively is better, it’s just not really fantasy like Brandon Sanderson is

@kyuujinyetto6228

3 жыл бұрын

@@isaaka977 you can't say it's objectively better, it's all subjective. To me Brandon is better

@VarjoFilosofi

3 жыл бұрын

Aye, he doesn't like The Name of The Wind-books. He thinks there's a lot of weirdness in the series's characters. I can totally see where he's coming from, but still would personally put it into... B probably. I liked both books, but can't go higher than that. I don't have problem with the characters that much, but I just hate the style where plot is jumping between future and past. *cough* I would say Brandon Sanderson is OBJECTIVELY better than Patrick Rothfuss. He's literally a fantasy writer, who writes his books like those were examples how fantasy should be written from characters to magic systems and the world. Sanderson does it so well that some people could even say that's his weak point in a sense... Rothfuss frankly isn't in the same league.

@matthewbaer4031

3 жыл бұрын

I’m 11 and I loved the series even though the 3rd book hasn’t come out and if your wondering yes I did skip the delirium part but I know enough to know what was written but it amazed me how he put that in c teir and no I’m not a pervert I skipped all the bad parts but I have 2 brothers so I know what they were doing cause my brothers have friends ears and mouths and like to share gross 🤮 information

I was at a Barnes and Noble with some friends looking at the fantasy section, and it was fun to see how many series I recognized from your videos. While there, I remembered your Recommendation for The Lies of Locke Lamora, so I hunted it down and bought it. I have consistently read to around midnight each night, and spent three hours this morning reading. It is legitimately so good, that I might put as one of my favorite books, even though I’m not done. Thank you so much for recommending this EDIT: I am now finished with the book, and disregarding the Stormlight Archive since that will always be my favorite, this is my new favorite book/book series (though I hesitate to say series, since I have yet to read Red Seas under Red Skies or the Republic of Thieves yet)

The Name of the Wind is the best book I have ever had the pleasure to read. The writing style is beautiful.

@Raphael-xb9co

4 жыл бұрын

The first one was good, but underwhelming. A few poetic quotes here and there but idk, sometimes I felt bored of the plot pace. And I dont blame Patrick, he was really young when started writing that book. But Wise Man Fear is stunningly awesome, an insane improve from the first one.

@Raphael-xb9co

4 жыл бұрын

​@Vernon Roche His time in Tarbean, when he goes to Trebon and finds Denna, witness a living Draccus. Those parts of the book, I felt it was so slow or overused. I was like: "Okay, I see, he had a hard time in Tarbean. Can we get through this already? Oh well, he's fighting Pike again."

@Alguien1717

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raphael-xb9co i thought kind of the dame with the "Last" part of the first book, that part with the draccus. Tarbean was excellent in my opinion. However, everyone has they're own perspectives on this matters

@Alguien1717

4 жыл бұрын

Their* sorry

@ChrlzMaraz

4 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Patrick writes with eloquent pose that oozes lyric.

This is both a good and dangerous list.

@mrvulture8981

5 жыл бұрын

*Very dangerous*

@avekatumba4794

5 жыл бұрын

/* Potterheads are on their way!

@hassamkkkk5721

4 жыл бұрын

Maester Gryphon nah it’s not as good as the lord of the rings or the witcher, for me at least

Seeing the kingkiller chronicle going all the way down to C broke my heart. It impacted me in such a way i cant spend too much time without going back to it

@6ic6ic6ic

11 ай бұрын

Hard for people to like an anti-hero. Most notable antiheros are cast in a pleasant light and descend into darkness. The Kingkiller series is unapologetic about it. The post apocalyptic science is magic premise was really well done imo.

@Martellus89

6 ай бұрын

He goes down seriously as a writer in my mind due to how bloody long its taken him to write each book. He wont even talk about when the third book is coming.

@manuel5114

6 ай бұрын

I read only The Name of the Wind and I think it's so terrible I can't even wrap my head around the fact that it got published in the first place, let alone that people actually liked it.

@GrandHighGamer

2 ай бұрын

@@manuel5114 I think we should call that the 'Ready Player One Effect'.

Name of the Wind a C tier? You broke my heart, Fredo.

Series I forgot! Inheritance cycle, John Carter of Mars, Discworld, Narnia, and I should have broken up forgotten realms by story.

@spencerryanmusic

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel Greene I know you’re not a huge fan, but where would you put Narnia?

@DanielGreeneReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Spencer Askew forgot. I am ashamed.

@juliabozzino288

5 жыл бұрын

no realm of the elderlings? damn!

@redwho1587

5 жыл бұрын

What about the other book series from Brent Weeks - The Night Angel, have you read it?

@fredrikgranstrom6743

5 жыл бұрын

eragon is b-a tier have not read the new though

FINE! I´ll read The Witcher dammit

@Logic105

4 жыл бұрын

Hear hear

@gabrielcaetano6318

4 жыл бұрын

Sucs, its like percy jackson or ranger the author just made a lot of books with no intention in telling a linear story.

@Isoweb1000

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha, enjoy. you wont regret it. I dont read much fantasy, but i couldnt put the books out of my hand once i started reading.

@KeytarArgonian

4 жыл бұрын

They’re amazing you won’t regret it.. plus it releases on Netflix this Friday woo!

@bora4879

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielcaetano6318 the story is linear from 3rd book to 7th book

Never watched a video of yours before. I have read 6 of the series you ranked here, was worried you were going to disappoint me when I saw the Wheel go all the way to the end. Then you said it is your favorite and I clicked subscribe, lol. May you always find water and shade sir.

Surprised not to see any Robin Hobb on here, based on the series in your list that I have read, and how you ranked them, I think you would enjoy her work. I kind of see her books as a sort of middle ground between ASIAF and Stormlight. Her characters are put through the absolute ringer, and she is a lot more graphic than Sanderson in some ways but nowhere near as graphic as martin. Her stories are very character and perspective driven too, which both Martin and Sanderson do well. I'm sure I am not the first to recommend her books but i seriously love them more than any other series apart from stormlight. Obviously everyone is different though Edit: I've just realised this is an older video and you have now read Farseer because you included Fitz in your favourite characters video lol

name of the wind on c is a crime

@felixswip7730

4 жыл бұрын

Fr i loved it

@Jason-ip6li

4 жыл бұрын

Should've been D

@jakelytle2624

4 жыл бұрын

came here to say this

@LuckyDragon289

3 жыл бұрын

Nah; I think it deserves its place there, unless there was a C+/B- tier. The second book really disappointed me mainly due to the pacing. Kvothe as a character really doesn't resonate with me.

@rasaecnai

3 жыл бұрын

I could not finish it for some reason. so its a c for me too. well maybe better if i eventually get to finish it

Puts Mistborn, Stormlight Archive, and Wheel of Time in S tier. You've earned yourself a sub good sir

@Blosteroid

4 жыл бұрын

Right

@levipeterken4020

4 жыл бұрын

But Magician in B

@cantrips

4 жыл бұрын

But Name of the Wind in C tier ... ruins my opinion of this guy.

@Whiskeyjack27

4 жыл бұрын

Love those books so damn much. You should check out the Graphic Audio audiobook versions of them, they rock.

@cantrips

4 жыл бұрын

Kyle Creamer yep I think that’s what I listened to. I listen to audiobooks while driving.

As a fantasy writer myself, I feel like it's a level of praise when you include someone's books in your tier list

@mr_indie_fan

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of journey of the soul but the trilogy looks interesting and ill definitely have to check it out now that I've looked up your books!

@mr_indie_fan

2 жыл бұрын

Read the introduction now, definitely got me hooked on the story with sword and magic training!

Shocked at your Kingkiller ranking, Dan! Its in my top 5 favourite series of all time alongside the likes of Wheel of Time, Lord of the Rings, Gentleman Bastards...

@herseyolsun505

Жыл бұрын

same reaction

@BookishEmperor

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Kingkiller just feels lazy. Also, it's never going to be finished because Rothfuss can't be bothered lol.

Taking disagreements for granted... was super surprised by the Rothfuss treatment lol. I’ve read much of the same stuff that you have, and it’s one of my favourite books in the genre.

@monnfinst

4 жыл бұрын

absolutly agree

@BryceChristiansen

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Highly disagree with this ranking for Name of the Wind. Some of the most beautiful writing in fantasy.

@saraforney3940

4 жыл бұрын

Bryce Christiansen Kingkiller chronicles right? I’m waiting for the third book. The first two were SO GOOD

@johnkirk1772

4 жыл бұрын

@@BryceChristiansen loved the books but i get it.. I usually skip the entire present when rereading because it's boring and hasn't been tied into the story at all - i too believe that rothfuss doesn't know how to finish it - he created characters i love but sometimes story elements seem a little all over the place and perhaps that's what makes it hard to tie together.. And since we are rating series not individual books it takes a big hit..

@NICOLOKS83

4 жыл бұрын

It seems like his issues with Rothfuss as a person are the true reflection of his Kingkiller ranking.

Daniel: Harry Potter is B Tier Harry Potter gatekeepers: "Avada Kedavra!"

@alphabah49

5 жыл бұрын

It's like I knew he was going to do it. 😂😂

@deanryanmartin

5 жыл бұрын

No. We need someone like Daniel Greene in the Booktuberverse.

@jonm4206

5 жыл бұрын

I consistently tell people when comparing Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter that LOTR is the better book series and Harry Potter is the better movie series. The story is great, the writing is only good.

@meurer13daniel

5 жыл бұрын

@@jonm4206 Harry Potter is definitely NOT a better movie series. That's a very strange take

@sparkoceanic

5 жыл бұрын

@@meurer13daniel agreed

Just found your channel yesterday, and it's so interesting seeing this list. I loved LOTR, currently reading Mistborn and loving, huge fan of ASOIAF but was totally shocked how you ranked the kingkiller chronicle. I absolutely loved those books.

@_nixxie_

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. It is one of my all time favorite fantasy series

@shubhamozha6702

3 жыл бұрын

I think they are very interesting but compared to the likes of ASOIAF & LOTR it feels little crude in terms of story flow & character development.

@_MARSyt

2 жыл бұрын

Hard to recommend to people when you remember there's several chapters in a row in book 2 on kvothe having sex with a fairy

@johannilsson6395

2 жыл бұрын

@@_MARSyt Kvothe being in the fae, the story getting some interesting lore, with the sex being a byproduct to get him there.

@_MARSyt

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannilsson6395 True but you can't say it makes recommending book 2 to people like say, your mom, kinda weird lol.

*His Dark Materials* is A for certain. Its world-building and best characters deserve it.

@widdershins5383

3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t read the fourth book because it came out a couple years later or so, I didn’t even realize there was a fourth book for years lol

@perpeder4370

6 ай бұрын

@@widdershins5383 it is more of a second series following Lyra as she is a bit older, as far as I remember

I skipped to the end just to see The Wheel of Time placed exactly where I expected it to be.

@fredrikgranstrom6743

5 жыл бұрын

if its not S tier i wil use balefire on Daniel.

@sea5063

5 жыл бұрын

@@fredrikgranstrom6743 Daniel knows what he's about, don't worry

@llskywalker6337

5 жыл бұрын

Yup 😎

@adamkelly7387

5 жыл бұрын

All the braid tugging should have at least pulled it down to A

@llskywalker6337

4 жыл бұрын

@PushandillPushback I disagree but it just depends on the readers own taste and what to them makes it a good book. And me and. Daniel Greene both agree on it. While others might bot

Name of the Wind and Ice and Fire ranking triggered me.

@EpicRewind

5 жыл бұрын

me 2 xD

@bigboy9153

5 жыл бұрын

Mistborn trilogy over ice and fire ?! I mean come on

@Byssbod

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigboy9153 I really love Sanderson but in a thousand years I can't understand having Mistborn in the same tier as Stormlight. One is clearly better in pacing and characters as well as voice. And the difference is enough that they shouldn't be on the same level. Brandon got better at writing as he went on, and it shows greatly.

@schmidth

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigboy9153 Ice and fire is fine in rank A, but Mistborn shouldn't be in the same tier as Stormlight no matter what.

@omnitheus5442

4 жыл бұрын

@@schmidth He'll shift Malazan atop all once he reads book 5... Greatest book of all kinds ever written!

Dude, you really need to read Silverthorn and A Darkness at Sethanon to finish Feist's original trilogy, The Riftwar Saga, a solid S from me as I feel it evolves to add other realms, planets, cultures and magics - especially given when it was written. I would also throw Sara Douglas' original Axis Trilogy and Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow andThorn in there for my faves

@stephenbetley9596

Жыл бұрын

Add to that read the Empire Trilogy at the same time.

@charlienix9230

8 ай бұрын

thats what im saying. And continue witht the series after

@dantonperiah

5 ай бұрын

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ JEFFS COMMENT! YOU NEED TO FINISH THIS!! One of the best series of books I have ever read!!

Witcher is king when it comes to character dialogue exchanges. Those emotional conversations between Geralt and Yennefer are so gripping.

@joedatius

3 жыл бұрын

mhm its interesting to see how different kinds of approaches can be great in their own way, Tolkien is no where near as good as Sapkowski when it comes to character dialogue but he personally shines with world building and long term events

@HBG313

Жыл бұрын

plagiarized story

@jillbill7752

5 ай бұрын

Ngl I’d rather watch paint dry. The author has some serious momma issues that come out in that. Geralt in general just comes across as the fantasy manifestation of a loser. He’s basically a hobo and his job isn’t actually important anymore but watch out! He’s a badass!. I feel like it was written by an aging electrician that hates his apprentice because he can tell he’s already going to be better than him. Idk how or why but I got to the fourth books third chapter before I finally said I can’t do it anymore. Also. He cannot write compelling women and I say this as a man that will openly admit I know nothing about women.

so for the book to be in S tier its title has to start with "The"

OMG!! Who is this masquerading as my son?!?!?! No way would the real Daniel Greene, a sopn of mine, rate Harry Potter only a "B." We could debate "A" vs. "S," but no son of mine would rate Harry & Co. a "B." WHO ARE YOU????

@st4rbuk

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I was wondering whether Daniel would put HP as S or A and then when I saw him put it as B AND rank Broken Earth Trilogy above it I was...speechless :)

@germanikusxxxraphaelmoreau2369

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes a son has to revolt against his elders. He will see the light of truth in time.

@Southpaw128

5 жыл бұрын

@@germanikusxxxraphaelmoreau2369 i literally thought the exact same thing but with different wording. "see the light of truth in time" was a good touch haha

@patrimcauthon478

5 жыл бұрын

I think he is on the POT

@timpeterjensen2364

5 жыл бұрын

For me Harry Potter is only C tier, but i read it when i was about 25. Im pretty sure if i had read it as a kid, the nostalgia effect and having read it with the wonder of a child to bring it to a completely different level, it could likely have been S tier. Like I see Naria as solid A tier, because of nostalgia, but if i put a more critial eye on it, i can find alot of issues.

When you put Patrick Rothfuss that far down, I was shocked. It makes me question the rest of the rankings.

@kevnas8250

2 жыл бұрын

I cannot agree more. I was so captured by the first time I listened to the two books that I instantly went to listen to it a second time after finishing. Immediatly. Although because of Daniel I read Wheel Of Time completely, and them two times more, this choice is conflicting to me.

@Marscandy1

2 жыл бұрын

I was shocked when he put it on C too…but I kind of understand. My feelings aside on Rothfuss though, he’s dead right on almost all the others with the exception of, in my opinion, The Witcher. That is my personal choice, I don’t enjoy translations and I think The Witcher wasn’t a great book.

@generalmod

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marscandy1 same. I love the Witcher world through the games but I cant get into the first book. I blame it on translation

@justind4448

2 жыл бұрын

You just have mid taste.

@thehelmsfamily5397

2 жыл бұрын

Right! Also Hp, an ASOIAF? This the kid that ate glue

I've always found The Ranger's Apprentice and The Iron Druid Chronicles to be two of my favorite book series ever. I'd highly recommend!

@ajavierb2078

Жыл бұрын

The rangers apprentice is great but went on for way to long.

@benjaminroe311ify

Жыл бұрын

@@ajavierb2078 Yeah it's really good. But only the first 8 books or so. Can't quite remember but it starts to drag at that point...

Daniel: And I’ll put Malazan in... Me: S-tier! Put it in S! Daniel: ...A, solid A-tier. Me: *YOU FOOL*

@gloom_slug

5 жыл бұрын

Critic Corner Cut him some slack. He's only read 3 books yet.

@aesrys

5 жыл бұрын

@@gloom_slug Funny, the further I got into the series the less I enjoyed it. Loved the first few books, but after 5 (I think it was 5 anyway) it just seemed to feel like more of a slog and less of enjoyment.

@oggedask

5 жыл бұрын

@@aesrys for me number 1 was the best... i loved the tempo... number 4-5-6-7 was very good also but the rest is sooooooo dragged out and tedious

@aesrys

5 жыл бұрын

@@oggedask Yeah, I agree. I really wanted to like it more because it started so strong and interesting but I just couldn't make myself finish the series. Got to book 9 I think.

@cointreau6377

5 жыл бұрын

Malazan diserves a S+ !!!

You putting Lightbringer in S tier makes me very excited to continue with the series myself. I really enjoyed The Black Prism and I think the series has potential to be in my own favourites!

@PaxIesus

5 жыл бұрын

Every book in that series is a solid, enjoyable book. I'd argue each one is S Tier, but the latest is a LITTLE weaker, in my opinion, maybe a B+ book. But overall, I loved it.

Ranking all the Fantasy Series I have read. I've read so many it's hard to remember them all lol! S: Lord of the Rings, Cosmere (Overall), Harry Potter, Wheel of Time, Stormlight Archive A: Kingkiller, Artemis Fowl, Percy Jackson & The Olympians, Song of Ice and Fire, The Witcher, Gentlemen Bastards, Mistborn, Bartemeaus B: Dresdan Files, Dark Tower, Malazan, Lightbringer, Temeriare, Obsidian Chronicles, His Dark Materials, Earthsea, Narnia, Farseer C: Inheritance Cycle, Shannarah, Charlie Bone, Redwall, Dragonriders of Pern D: Wizard's First Rule, Broken Empire, Dragonlance, Thomas Covenant

I'd be interested to see where Daniel would place Discworld now...

Without a doubt Malazan will move to S tier once you’ve progressed a bit further. It’s magnificent and I’ve been reading and rereading them for a decade and never been disappointed.

@RJtheCoolGuy

3 жыл бұрын

The end of malazan was not great, easily the worst part of the series in my opinion

@deano2506

3 жыл бұрын

It's even more rewarding when rereading the series

@widdershins5383

3 жыл бұрын

@@RJtheCoolGuy what heresy is this?

@timswabb

2 жыл бұрын

@@RJtheCoolGuy I respectfully but strongly disagree.

@paulring9246

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s a bit boring tbh . I’m on the 5th book rn . I really liked book 3 but I think for me it’s just not work the time

Old classics to recommend: Anne McCaffery’s original “Dragonriders of Pern” trilogy (each book is its own story) Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman’s original “Dragonlance Chronicles” trilogy David Eddings “The Belgariad” (very influential on Jordan) Each of these authors had written many more books in their respective series.

@jemsterr

4 жыл бұрын

Strongly agree on all counts.

@stephanb90

4 жыл бұрын

I also really like "The Death Gate Cycle" by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. But I could be influenced by nostalgia since it was one of the first fantasy works I read.

@LoyaFrostwind

4 жыл бұрын

I grew up with Dragonlance! It's like comfort food, for me.

@simonbellamy67

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. To mention a few. Here's a few more. Dragonlance legends, A blackbird in silver trilogy, everything by Terry Brooks, The mallorion( sequel to the Belgariad ).....

@LoyaFrostwind

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonbellamy67 , DragonLance Legends was my first foray into that world. I read Legends before I knew about Chronicles.

His Dark Materials done dirty. That’s the only series in this whole list which deserves to talked about in the same breath as Tolkien. I say that as someone who loves many of the series here, but I enjoy them for what they are. And they are not on the level of Pullman.

I get so much direction from your recommendations. I really respect what you have to say about these series some of which I have already invested so much of myself into. King killer being one of them. It grieves me to hear what you and some others have to say about it and it’s conclusion because I hold your insight in such high esteem. But I totally get it. Thank you Daniel and for where I should go next after I finish Lightbringer!!

If these are all the series you've read even one book of, you've missed out on (among others): - Peter V. Brett - The Demon Cycle - David Eddings - Terry Pratchett - Gormenghast - Stephen R. Donaldson - The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - Dragonlance - Michael Moorcock - The Eternal Champion - Conan

@jemsterr

4 жыл бұрын

I was surprised Forgotten Realms was there but not Dragonlance

@katuhullu

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why is Dragonlance nowhere to be found on any lists?

@mosart7025

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Covenant... would that qualify as Grim and Dark? I think so. But boy were we into it in art school in the early 80s!

@jemsterr

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why I could mever get into it. I felt depressed just reading it.

@kinglar

4 жыл бұрын

great pics

His Dark Materials was absolutely written to be an instructional fantasy for young readers. It's explicitly an atheist/humanist answer to Narnia.

I'm absolutely in love with the Powder Mage universe, and I hope the TV adaptation gets picked up and becomes successful.

*cough cough* We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you No, I'm never gonna give you up No, I'm never gonna let you down No, I'll never run around and hurt you Never, ever desert you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you No, I'm never gonna give you up No, I'm never gonna let you down No, I'll never run around and hurt you I'll never, ever desert you

I guess I'll have to take a lunch break now to watch this video.

for me, the name of the wind feels like a fairy tale. I either dont recognize the flaws people point out or just dont care. It is one of the most enjoyable books i have ever read. Having said that, stormlight is probably on the top of my list, given that there are still books coming out.

"I'll put The Name of the Wind in D tier." Wait,what? What happened to you. "Just kidding." Ok

@matthewbaer4031

3 жыл бұрын

No name of the wind is s or a teir unless new to fantasy

@JeantheSecond

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewbaer4031 No. I’ve been reading fantasy since 1984 and I hated Name of the Wind. Fun fact: what people like is subjective.

I highly recommend you read daughter of the empire, which is a sort of companion trilogy to magician, it's a fantastic underdog political drama with an awesome female protagonist taking place on the other side of the rift war. The audio book is great, the lady's voice is super soothing

@cruisingwithoutsail6585

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you stressing out on the point that the protagonist is female? Do you need to announce the gender of the protagonist to get your message through that book is now worth more reading just because of that fact? Why is that information so integral for you to convey in the first place when in fact no one cares what gender a protagonist should have to build an actual story? Would you phrase what you said similarly if the protagonist was male?

@stephenbetley9596

Жыл бұрын

@@cruisingwithoutsail6585 Jeez. He's being descriptive. Breathe.

Magician and the world of Midkemia really needs to be read in full to appreciate. There are 30 books in the extended series but there are a few side stories you can go without so it's more like 20. Very good read.

Name of the Wind (and The Wise Man's Fear) are two of my favorite books ... I do wonder sometimes if Rothfuss knows how he's going to end it. But I love his writing style and I think his books are more character-driven than plot-driven, which is something I really dig. And Harry Potter a B?? Come onnn, lol. Also, I hope you're right about The Lies of Locke Lamora because I'm finding it hard to get into so far. But I'm going to read it to the end! :P

@stefanovitali2925

4 жыл бұрын

I swear, I forgot how many times I got angry at Locke while reading the book. Dude doesn't know when to fold 'em. I know it's part of the character, but... C'mon man, when everyone and everything tells you to bail out, you bail out. Else bad things happen...

@goldeviolets4314

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh I’d say I agree with the Harry Potter rank of B. It’s pretty good but I wouldn’t say it’s in A and certainly not in S

@Gary-yq5hx

2 жыл бұрын

@@goldeviolets4314 Harry Potter is C at best, the world building is weak and the fact that each has the exact same pacing to all neatly tie up each story in a year is just silly

@UnreasonableOpinions

2 жыл бұрын

I get it about those two books. While the moment-to-moment writing is quite good and the story within each chapter is usually good, the actual plot is meandering at best and doesn't really have much structure. You could comfortably cut a third of each book out without it substantially changing the plot or the narrative, and that is a very real flaw- you just don't notice it while you're reading the book because it just reads so well. I also get it about Harry Potter. They're not great books nor particularly well-written, but there was something special about them any book series that you read until the books physically start falling apart.

@max-eb2wc

2 жыл бұрын

He Said that he already knows the ending

My favorite fantasy series: 1. The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit and The Silmarllion. 2. The Witcher 3. The Wheel of Time 4. Legend of the Seeker/The Sword of Truth 5. Earthsea Cycle 6. Ranger's Apprentice 7. Dungeons and Dragons 8. Elder Scrolls 9. Hercules and Xena Universe 10. The Chronicles of Prydain 11. The Shannara Chronicles

Dark Tower were my first audio books and what made me realize I actually can keep reading as an adult. I'd say it's S tier in my heart. I've never felt more connected to a group of characters before

@josephhirning2642

2 жыл бұрын

I love Dark Tower.

@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness

Жыл бұрын

finished that series recently. god that last book hurt

@gostydaboi4274

7 ай бұрын

@@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness in a good way or a bad way? (i just started the first book)

@theyescapedtheweightofdarkness

7 ай бұрын

@@gostydaboi4274 good way.

I love how casually you nonchalantly threw Terry goodkind in "D" tier.

@xogdo5260

3 жыл бұрын

@Domagoj Čović Well, he did review SoT, he just hated it, and also, he doesn't want to speak about the guy to give him any kind of publicity or spread negativity, so he didn't speak about it and he just put it in D

@eno2870

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. I don't get why SoT just went straight to the worst tier. That was the first epic fantasy series I ever read, and while it wasn't outstanding by any means it wasn't terrible either. I rate it about the same as The Wheel of Time personally - generic and full of tropes, occasionally not so outstanding entries, but all in all still mostly enjoyable.

@ClaeFace

3 жыл бұрын

@@eno2870 I’d recommend giving it a reread if you think it’s even close to Wheel of Time. To each their own, but I think you’ll have a different experience reading it as a more experienced fantasy reader

@hotshingles

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClaeFace I personally read all 13(?) books of SoT and can't even bother getting past book 6 in WoT. I do get why SoT gets so much hate, and I can't make many points against the hate it gets. I will also say, WoT drags on and on and on. I even say that knowing I haven't gotten to the book regarded as the slowest in the series (book 8). I just wish someone could condense or abridge the middle section. Halfway through book six I wanted to give my eyes papercuts if I ever saw another braid tug or skirt smooth again. Personally, I've never stopped reading a series until I was done with it. WoT has broken that habit. Yet here we are arguing nostalgia and substance between two books regarded oppositely.

@ClaeFace

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotshingles Oh no doubt the middle slog is real. In my opinion the payoff more than makes up for it, but I absolutely understand not wanting to commit to thousands more pages to get there if it won’t be enjoyable for you.

Ranking magic systems next?

@DanielGreeneReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Albino Deer actually yes.

@keeprockin69

5 жыл бұрын

Nice. Looking forward to that :D

@charlesnyana

5 жыл бұрын

Sanderson's gonna dominate that list's S and A tiers; never seen anyone draft magic systems as dynamic and cohesive as Brandon's.

@tovekauppi1616

5 жыл бұрын

Charles Nyana yeah, I was about to comment that. He’s the king of magic systems. The only system I know of that might rival Sanderson’s systems is Nen from HunterxHunter, but it’s a manga/anime so they rarely get compared.

@albinodeer7449

5 жыл бұрын

@@tovekauppi1616 Daniel will proabbly put WOT there as well. And Lightbringer has a cool one too

A Wizard of Earthsea was probably the book that drew me in the most.. ever. I was so absorbed I failed Spanish class because of it. 🙄😅

@Duncanate

Жыл бұрын

Read it twice during my childhood. No regrets!

My favorite fantasy book is the Bible…it’s probably the most famous fantasy book in the world

@TheSwedeMcCoy

Ай бұрын

The world's most sold fairy tale..

The Magicians trilogy never gets any love. I think it's really unique within the genre in that it's sort of a meta fantasy, or a fantasy story about fantasy stories themselves

Dam i thought you where joking when you put "The name of the Wind" in C-Tier! i thought it was S-Tier!

@arte0021

4 жыл бұрын

Why does everybody kiss that book' s ass so much? I havent read it cause the series is unfinished but i read the summary and it doesnt sound that exciting. Can it really be this amazing masterpiece and the best thing that ever happened to literature that some say it is?

@rw9161

4 жыл бұрын

@@arte0021 Meh. In my opinion the book was quite enjoyable to read and has some beautiful prose, but is kind of ruined by a few jarring weaknesses. It's weird because it's hard to believe that an author as talented at writing as Rothfuss could be so bad at some basic things. The worst part about the books IMO is 1. The main character Kvothe randomly being amazing at sex and banging the equivalent of aphrodite for like a week straight and 2. The story dragging on needlessly and nothing actually happening (especially in the second book)

@arte0021

4 жыл бұрын

@@rw9161 yet everybody still praises the shit out of it. I think a book should not only have good prose but also have an exciting storyline. Does the Kingkiller series have that?

@rw9161

4 жыл бұрын

@@arte0021 somewhat. The story is compelling for the most part but definitely falls short of being epic because the author likes to go on tangents and the main character is so overpowered.

@jakebishop7822

4 жыл бұрын

@@arte0021 I think its mostly solid, and written in a gripping way, but it slips in the last third of a Wise Mans Fear and it seems like there is 3 book of questions to answer and there is only 1 book left so I have my doubts about Doors of Stone having a satisfying conclusion. Overall the worldbuilding is mostly good but it has some things that just don't seem to make sense, The magic system is fantastic, the writing style is great, it's very descriptive, and easy to follow at the same time.

Dude, plz keep updating this list! This is your best rank ever!!! Update this for Christmas plzzz

Ah yes, I loved the lies of Locke lamora and was hella suprised no one really talks about it, solid series defn subscribed

The name of the wind is the best book I have ever read and I read so many, but taste is different I get it

@Glorc72000

4 жыл бұрын

I really liked the book at first. But after I read the second book something didn't sit right with me. After a long time of thinking I realized that its beautiful prose wonderfully masks the fact that the book that the main character is a mary sue (his only flaws are scarcely story-relevant), arrogant, pretentious, and unlikable little shit, and the plot is meandering and shallow.

@EthanRayburn69

4 жыл бұрын

Glorc72000 I agree that Kvothe is an arrogant little shit but I think that the plot has a lot to offer. I can’t say yet but we’ll know when the third book comes out. Personally I want to know how Kvothe became Kote.

@anonimuso

4 жыл бұрын

It's not the best book I've ever read, but it's certainly up there.

@1GOBIRDS1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Glorc72000 I agree he seems like an arrogant Mary Sue but someone pointed out the fact that Kvothe is re-telling his own story and anyone who tells their own story is going to make themselves sound better.

@mn-le5zp

4 жыл бұрын

@@Glorc72000 yea I really started to notice in the second book. I was very drawn in the first book, but it was downhill from their. I still somewhat enjoyed the second one, but kvothe personality def came through more. Very self absorbed. At the same time though, I can't blame him too much just because he IS a performer. Hes an actor on stage.

You should read The Farseer Trilogy, and other stuff by Hobb. Very enjoyable.

@joaofarias9986

5 жыл бұрын

This shit is z

@JakeTaco83

5 жыл бұрын

Does it bet any better after The Assassins Apprentice? While it wasn't a DNF, it also didn't compel me to go on. Everytime there was a part that seemed like it would be fun and interesting it would skip that scene like it was omitted from the book by a rival editor that didn't want the book to succeed. I know lots of people love it, but it was pretty uneventful in my mind.

@keithwing3743

5 жыл бұрын

Good book but old school fantasy. Old school doesn’t get the love but I get it.

@GreeneZonee

5 жыл бұрын

I got to assassin's quest and put it down. I'll eventually finish it but I'm on book 3 and I still don't care about a single character.

@terryhampso5800

5 жыл бұрын

My favourite series of books.

Name Of the wind was awesome, The First Law trilogy 1 and the second trilogy is by far the best and you have to add all the stand alone books because they all add to the overall story.

So glad The Stormlight Archive is S-tier. 100% my favorite book series ever.

I know Fool Moon is a little rough but the Harry Dresden series is one of my favorites. As you get deeper in the series you can see Jim Butcher evolve as an author and the books just keep getting better. I have Dresden in my S+ tier, next to WOT.

That’s a lot of damage

Name of the Wind and Harry Potter is S tier without question.

I just came to see where he put The Kingkiller chronicles so that I get to understand his taste on fantasy books, I got my answer

Damn you stabbed my soul with putting Harry Potter at B 😭 I’m just so nostalgic because it’s the series that first got me reading for pleasure. I just can’t look at it objectively. But definitely agree with Witcher. It’s an amazing series

@stupidandre

2 жыл бұрын

To call HP generic is an insult.

There are a few series you really need to read: The Belgariad, The Malorean, The Elenium, The Tamuli by David Edings The Codex Alera by Jim Butcher The Runelords by David Farland The Saga of Recluse by L.E. Moddesitt The Tales of Alvin Maker by Orson Scott Card

@DinksOver9000

5 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely seconding the David Eddings series. Those are great reads.

@alienbob5690

5 жыл бұрын

Codex Alera is great... I should re-read it

@PaxIesus

5 жыл бұрын

Codex Alera is a solid series, but the last two books are pretty weak, imo. But "Cursor's Fury" is one of my favourite books of all time.

@ridingwilding760

5 жыл бұрын

Codex file is the series that introduced me to fantasy beyond YA. I was reading various YA fantasy to my kiddos and decided to try fantasy books for my personal reading. When one of my daughter’s got beyond YA Codex was her first “adult” fantasy she continued to be a avid fantasy reader.

@isthou

4 жыл бұрын

Also the Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone, Greg Keyes The Black Company, Glen Cook

You're quite generous with the S tier my brother.

@admiralbyrd7047

3 жыл бұрын

@brandotendie gg

Am I the only one who doesn't think LotR is S tier? I started reading it (before the movies cam out)and had to push through a lot of the book. (bc it started to bore me with all the overly wordy descriptions of things that did nothing to carry the story along) Then when I was at 30-50 pages left in the book, someone saw me reading it and started talking to me about all the character development, then said "can you believe blah blah blah happens at the end?" without knowing this is my only time reading LotR. (can't remember what the specifics are anymore of what he said). I was so pissed of that I had wasted 2 long months of struggling to read this book (that I didn't really like anyway), that I said "thanks for ruining the the book for me" and to emphasize my point i dropped the book on the ground next to him and walked away never to finish those last 50 pages. So maybe my experience soured me on it but from some of his other S tier pics i only really agree with wheel of time.

@zube410

3 жыл бұрын

I believe it is good enough to be s-tier, but it also gets s-tier for the same reason sports figures like Babe Ruth, Micheal Jordan, Mohammed Ali, or Tiger Woods might be ranked s-tier in their chosen sport even when many better players may exist now. Tolkien decided elves are tall and graceful, so everyone now knows that's how fantasy elves are. Not just LotR Elves, FANTASY elves. Elves in fantasy don't have beards and prefer bows or light swords in combat because tolkien said so. Orcs are his creation but a fantasy staple almost unchanged from the lotr version.Hobbits are still trademarked by the tolkien estate so instead, peace-loving HALFLINGs are widely accepted in fantasy. Etc, etc, etc. There is an argument that LotR is not the best fantasy, but also an argument that fantasy is "Lord of the Rings genre"

@zube410

3 жыл бұрын

(Also, it was written by a British professor long enough ago that it's a bit older version of English for sure.)

@Markus314159

3 жыл бұрын

@@zube410 are you trying to convince me that LotR needs to be considered S-tier? Because the way you just describe LotR, it is an encyclopedia and as far as I can tell no one has put an encyclopedia in a S-tier just because it is used as reference material. But, if I were to consider a tier list, the only way to calculate which series/book is best is by how many times I have read it. PS i know that you are passionate about Lord of the Rings, but it is not its own genre.

@zube410

3 жыл бұрын

@@Markus314159 no, I'm just a VERY overly explainitory person. I like LotR, but it's certainly not my favorite fantasy series. It's just enough of a fundamental fantasy icon that it kinda gets its own place in the genre, and my point is that humans give that kind of "reverence" to people and things across most genres, activites or anything else we do.

@zube410

3 жыл бұрын

@@Markus314159 also, awesome name numbers...2653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105 etc

Do a scifi one. Need to add more 'to read' books to my already huge list.

@nordick7951

3 жыл бұрын

Neuromancer

@thomasray

3 жыл бұрын

Enders game (If you haven't already read it but you probably have)

@Justheory11b

3 жыл бұрын

The honor Harrington series

@manimercury7960

3 жыл бұрын

Dune series Foundation series

@squngy0

2 жыл бұрын

House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds.

A little (or perhaps not so little) request.. In the future in the lists videos could you please add the details of the books mentioned?? like the title of the book, the series, and the author..makes it easier to search for them.. Thanks..huge fan..keep up the good work..

I am so happy that you and I have the same taste in books. Bless you for where you put name of the wind

“Alright now we’re gonna put Wheel of Time in D tier” PANIC

Putting Kingkiller Chronicles in C is a crime imo! Easy S tier for me. This is one of the best book series I've seen in a while and I've read most series on your list... Although I do agree that I very much doubt he is going to finish this series with just a third book, since there is just too much questions still unanswered. Prince of Thorns is a hidden gem of a series! It's very dark, but I like these kind of books. I would put it in A-tier at least! Lightbringer had awesome first couple of books, which where just incredibly good! But my hype for the series went down quite a bit since the last book. We'll have to see where it goes from here. Also not the biggest fan of Mistborn (would still put it in A at least). The rest of the list is good. Maybe try also Codex Alera by Jim Butcher, the first book isn't great, but the series overall turns out really good. Raven's Shadow by Anthony Ryan is also quite good. P.S. sry I'm bored :P

I love Rothfuss and Islington. They're some of my favorite books. But that said I think your criticisms of the books are incredibly valid for the most part. There are some really incredible shining moments in those books that carry them through some pretty glaring flaws. Rothfusses prose lets me forgive all else. And Islingtons general plot and the conclusion to Caedens storyline and character arc lets me overlook the fact that he completely whiffed on the climax for the big baddie of the series. Both are incredible books with incredible flaws. But the fact that they are still so highly regarded despite major glaring issues just goes to show how amazing some pieces of the stories are.

First time I heard of "The Name of The Wind" was in one of your videos, you ranked fantasy books and you openly -as always- gave your not so favorable opinion of it. Read the comments and people were actually defending the book, so when I was bored I read the backcover introduction and decided to give a chance. Boy was that the best I have ever read. And I've read a lot. I've read Nobel prize winners, philosophic novels, classics, adult fantasy, sci-fi, poetry, science, etcetera. This book was so pure and so surprising, it was nothing the introduction promised. It was a joy, it is art. I enjoyed it even more than Hermann Hesse's books, or Ayn Rand's or Steve Job's biography or Harry Potter or Lord of Rings or whatever other book from whatever other genre. It truly is a masterpiece, I don't care about the "Mary Sue" critique of Kvothe or the lack of blockbuster-like plot twists. The fact the Rothfuss wrote such a "pure" and simple story about a guy with a lute and made me cry, laugh, shiver, rage and basically feel every emotion with a single story for me is GOAT.

So in all honesty Prince of Thorns is all about putting you into the mind of a psychopathic teen scarred by his past and you really get to see why he's like this and how he breaks free of it in King and Emperor. Honestly, though It remains extremely dark and never leaves you with a good feeling when finishing these books since he is truly a psychopath. Really recommend reading them all the way through.

@brunosoares6151

8 ай бұрын

So true , not everyone enjoy these kind of evil characters, I've always had more fun with them.

Strike 1: Puts Name of the Wind in D-Tier Strike 2: Says in "Good conscious" instead of good conscience at 19:40 Strike 3: HE PUT NAME OF THE WIND IN D-TIER!

@mralireza931

4 жыл бұрын

I know, he should have had a F tier for it.

IMHO, Harry Potter definitely deserves a solid A. The impact this series had on a wide range of readers transcending generation gap was unprecedented, something so monumental and ground breaking which no other saga barring LOTR could achieve in the past. It wouldn't be exaggerating to say that Rowling made reading books cool again when their popularity was dwindling and was definitely responsible for fantasy as a genre to grow and enter in a new modern age. Besides, the novels are superbly entertaining(I was hard pressed to find filler chapters in all the seven books) and although not as complex as WOT or Malazan, it does have its charm which I'm sure you won't deny. I mean it's Harry Potter man :)

@DanielGreeneReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Lokeshwar Singh fair point.

@karkatvantas9557

5 жыл бұрын

I was one of those kids that Harry Potter got into reading. Now though I find so many issues with the plot and worldbuilding that I just can't enjoy it anymore.

@grewkit

5 жыл бұрын

I feel that having Mistborn above Harry Potter is a big joke. As much as you enjoy Mistborn, I think everyone can be objective about how Harry Potter is a better rounded saga: better writen, better paced, better constructed characters, and further better introduction of an entire new world. In Mistborn things either feel rushed or they happen because they have to happen so they get to the next great plot twist or ending Sanderson has planned. Mystery is soooo better handled in Harry Potter, maybe because in HP everything feels more organic, palpable, natural. I'm not even that big fan of HP anymore but I'm sure that if it was released now it would be again an intergenerational major success. Of course now we know every twist and spell, but I think we need to look at these sagas from a virgins eyes perspective. I'd like to see what people have to say about Mistborn in 20 years time. Anyway, everyone to their own taste. Keep up the videos ;)

@davemehew6259

5 жыл бұрын

Having success doesn't mean being critically good

@Lokeshwar22

5 жыл бұрын

@@davemehew6259 Which critic panned HP?

I am 5 seconds in but there better be a Terry Pratchett book high up there.

Wheel of Time and Malazan are just a bit daunting for me to start reading with 10+ volumes. especially when not having English as my first language. And a Song of Ice and Fire is easily an S+ for me.

@InTrancedState

2 жыл бұрын

Malazan was difficult for me and I usually read long and dense books. Malazan works if you hsve the time to do some studying on the side and keep attention to really dig in and read it over a good period of timr

@jonathanhighland4507

2 жыл бұрын

Wheel of time is worth it. It’s a journey, and once you finish it’ll be a part of your life forever

Name of the wind is so well written. I feel like sentence for sentence, Rothfuss may be the best writer. But the high level story telling leaves some things to be desired. Great list.

And here I thought I'd read a good amount of fantasy. Can't wait to start reading most of these series, thanks for the advice! Of what I've read, Song of Ice and Fire was definitely stronger in the beginning and slump in the middle of the series. Mistborn trilogy was and still is amazing. And Harry Potter, for me, will always be an amazing series.

My top 10: The Hobbit, Earthsea, The Witcher, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, Mistborn, Name of the Wind, Gentlemen Bastards, Way of Kings, Rage of Dragons.

brandon in 2022: wrote four extra books because he had extra time

For me KKC books by Rothfuss is an easy S series. I agree with most others of those I have read. Others to include not on your list would be Belgariad by David Eddings as A or boardline S. Raven Shadow series by Anthony Ryan as a solid B. Terry Brooks Shannara series is a solid B as well. I have yet to read Malazan or Bastards, but I keep hearing good things so those will be on my soon to read list.

@Whiskeyjack27

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Freedland I cannot recommend Malazan enough. My favorite series by a mile and so rewarding.

@ramana4330

4 жыл бұрын

Malazan would literally break this scale with its absolute insane plot

@kaliah1494

4 жыл бұрын

Goes down one tier for every year Rothfuss delays publication

@arpakyna

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder when you read Belgariad, because I read it when I was young teen and tried to go back to it recently. Boy it was rough to read.

@MrTheNoradin

3 жыл бұрын

@@arpakyna I think due to the progression and the evolving fantasy genre the Belgariad is one that didn't age the best, but I did enjoy it for what it was. It had cliche elements, the whole special child to save the world ploy but it had enough to stand on it's own and I loved the characters especially. Not S tier but certainly a series worth reading I think.

You should definitely read some stuff by David Eddings, particularly the Belgariad. The Demon Cycle by Peter V Brett is also amazing.

@pyneface5415

5 жыл бұрын

I agree the demon cycle series was excellent!

I agree with you! Glokta is SUCH AN AMAZING CHARACTER AND I LOVE HIM SO MUUUUUCH!

Dark Tower is definitely an S tier. But respect for being conflicted about putting it in A.

A Song of Ice and Fire is an A???!!!! Just an A??!!! OMG this series has such amazing character dynamics, dialogues that are to die for, has the ability to twist your emotions into a variety of shapes and is so strongly written! It doesn't follow conventional tropes and has plot twists that hit you harder than a freight train. S tier, man come on!!!

S - Malazan, LOTR, Stormlight, WOT, First Law, Gentleman Bastards A - ASOIAF, Witcher, Mistborn, Dark Tower B - Redwall C - All the ya books i read and dont remember very well D -

@MM-xm5vx

4 жыл бұрын

Chubmunky126 I feel like storm light is a

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