10:08 That transition from inkling boy to Villager was so smooth!

@Pascalk823

21 күн бұрын

You are right, it was so smooth, that I did not evev notice it when watching it the first time

3:39 I felt that “MID” in my soul

@Goji_Editzzz

13 күн бұрын

Me to

6:13 I rate this highly John nice one

Btw Baby class is the meta in Battle mode (small hitbox and great mts, speed sucks in battle) and they are the most aesthetic so use them in lounge pwease

@Matanumi

23 күн бұрын

No one really plays battle though

@Paperboy01234

23 күн бұрын

Which Baby Class, there are three of them.

@Ethan_Buchanan

23 күн бұрын

200cc as well.

@dramotarker1352

23 күн бұрын

​@@Paperboy01234 All of them, but mostly the dry bones class. Speed still matters a _little_ - and there's no real downside, since any handling past level 15 is basically useless. Lemmy class would be second place, and baby peach class third place. Acceleration has a small breakpoint at level 20, and the baby peach class is missing one level of acceleration compared to the other baby classes. Acceleration matters more in some game modes than others, but on average it's still better than the negligable handling and _litterally_ useless traction stat (only slippery terrain is the rainy section on the top of the mansion stage lol)

@Yoshi14838

22 күн бұрын

@@Ethan_Buchanannot meta on 200cc either yoshi class is still the best on 200cc but thier definitely better on 200 though than on 150

Ironically baby peach and daisy hold a ton of world records

@brycemkw

23 күн бұрын

They used to pre balance patch, but Yoshi is just better and took their spot. The babies only have 4 WRs left out of 192 categories now, and that number will only go down

@Adisonadibeba

22 күн бұрын

@@brycemkwthere are 192 possible time trial records

@brycemkw

22 күн бұрын

@@Adisonadibeba lol forgot the bcp doubled the records, shows the fall off of the babies even more though

This is truly a Ranking EVERY Character in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe! moment

@PlatinumGaming67

19 күн бұрын

WARIO

@konradl5736

19 күн бұрын

You pickWARIOOOOOO

The fact no one uses iggy when comparing to luigi and kamek is understandable because just like petey iggy's hair is covering you're screen just barely

@JPGiviner

23 күн бұрын

Hair too thick

@JavierLebron-le7yb

16 күн бұрын

Nah its because who likes iggy?

@sahaprocks7751

Күн бұрын

@@JavierLebron-le7ybI do. (I don’t play him much in Mario Kart tho)

As someone who normally uses Mario, Yoshi, and Peach, I’m completely satisfied to see they are relatively good or high tier. :)

just realized that Daisy hasn't left the meta since Double Dash 😭😭

This entire video for me was just praying for my favorite character to be in good or higher

"If your favourite character isn't Yoshi or Birdo, then now you know how good your favourite character is in MK8DX." Me, a Toadette enjoyer: ... (I am deceased) 💀

@SpiltMySquash

22 күн бұрын

Amen brother, we must stay strong 🙏

@ToadetteTails6969

22 күн бұрын

@@SpiltMySquash and you know what? Even if I am deceased, I still have it in my soul to agree with you, lol.

@user-sh7kw2qr3y

18 күн бұрын

Toadette supremacy

@istoleyunomilesbigmac

16 күн бұрын

uwu

*ANGRY TROY NOISES* Edit: Heavy Mii is actually in the same stat class as Dry Bowser, Wario, and Funky Kong, not Bowser and Morton.

@NationGiviner321

23 күн бұрын

That's just wrong Heavy mii shares same stats as bowser

@DBogie

23 күн бұрын

@@NationGiviner321For some reason heavy mii got moved between stat classes after wave 5

@HollowPass

23 күн бұрын

Nuh uh

@OceanBoardwalk1232nd

2 күн бұрын

​@@HollowPassIt did actually

Great tier list! One note: Heavy Mii now shares the same stats as Wario, Dry Bowser, and Funky Kong thanks to a change in Wave 5, Version 2.4.0

3:47 HEYYYYY I won’t accept this disrespect

yo !!! this video was awesome!!! the transitions from inkling boy to villager on 10:13 was such a nice touch !!

I wish in the next Mario kart game the characters stat doesn’t matter too much just so I can play as koopa troopa peacefully

@dervilagilchrist352

21 күн бұрын

Same

@bishpls4648

15 күн бұрын

Same, I love playing as Pink Gold Peach but the fact that metal characters are so heavy makes it difficult

@Puckmanfan

15 күн бұрын

@@bishpls4648 seeing someone who like play pink gold peach is so rare

@bishpls4648

15 күн бұрын

@@Puckmanfan its probably bc she’s heavy… or is there another reason? Lol

@Puckmanfan

15 күн бұрын

@@bishpls4648 mainly because she was over hated for being a peach clone and wasting the character slot

I find it funny that Daisy has been meta in two kart games

great vid man! super helpful as usual. would love a track ranking video as well!

I wonder if diddy kong was at the diddy parties 🤔

@JPGiviner

23 күн бұрын

Crazy LOL

Apart from one or two needless nitpicks, this list is solid, IMO! The only amendment I really think needs to be made is that the 'Cat Peach' class should be moved into the 'Good' tier with the 'Rosilna' class (and debatable in which order between the two), and the 'Mario' and 'Luigi' classes moved into the 'Borderline Meta' tier (or frankly just put at the bottom of 'Meta'). Short explanation: You've basically insisted that the 'Mario/Luigi' classes can only function on 'Mr. Scooty', robbing them of their natural higher Speed, rather than on 'Teddy Buggy'. Putting 'Mario/Luigi' on 'Teddy Buggy' means they trade off one point in Mini-Turbo for one in Speed whereas the 'Cat Peach' class trades off TWO points in Speed for only ONE in Mini-turbo (due to a naturally lower Speed/Mini-turbo ratio overall). But even if you insist on putting the 'Mario/Luigi' classes on 'Mr. Scooty' they still beat out the 'Cat Peach' class on 'Teddy Buggy' in a side-by-side comparison in every Stat except a minor one in either Handling OR Traction (depending on whether you pick the Mario or Luigi class) and a minor one in Invincibility (which you yourself, said was basically irrelevant). Check for yourselves on mk8dxbuilder.com/ if you are interested. DL;DR - 'Mario/Luigi' classes > 'Cat Peach' class.

one thing to note is that im not sure when this change occured, but large mii now shares stats with the wario class instead of bowser's

The most accurate tier list by far. And as someone who likes to stand out from the Yoshi class, Medium Mii and Inkling Boy have been my go to choices since this meta changed. It’s cool to know that the disadvantages to the best characters from the classes I’ve been using are little to none 👍🏽

this video is so well made, wow I absolutely love the way the character showcase on the right side turned out. Absolutely beautiful

john going from praising gla to calling invincibility unimportant the character arc i like to see

This is an amazingly structured video!

I'm happy to be a member today

I love this vid, thanks!

Very nice video JPG

Daisy is for sure the best character of this game!

@jimrdm71

23 күн бұрын

WAIT WHY IS YOUR COMMENT WAY BEFORE THE VIDEO UPLOADED

@saul_goodman15

23 күн бұрын

@@jimrdm71prob a big

@saul_goodman15

23 күн бұрын

bug

@4Banana_

23 күн бұрын

its because they are a member

@jimrdm71

23 күн бұрын

@@4Banana_ Does that mean early access to videos?

Yoshi practically has a harem while sitting at the top of 8DX's meta. He has Peach, Daisy, Birdo and Peachette with him at the top, while making himself the face of the weight class.

I stood Daisy for this video 🫡 Excellent job, John.

I'm still sad wiggler wiggler never got the time in the spotlight that it deserved

This is what I mean man! The character variety that's meta in mario kart 8 deluxe is GENUINELY so diverse compared to prior mario kart metas! People just fail to see it man! Even then you could win going off meta as well! It's what I love about this game and it's what I love most about comp mario kart! You should perhaps do a teir list of best vehicles and glider!

I think that the superheavies (Bowser class) and the Funky class were left severely underrated because if you are at an anti-gravity section, for some reason, Mini Turbo isn't always the way to go. There happen to be quite a bit of anti gravity sections in the game and some tracks don't have a single area without anti-gravity physics. This type of track also has quite a lot of boost panels.

Actually The heavy miis share stats with funky kong, not morton

I'll make my boi work, just you wait!

LET'S GOOOOO, my boy Mario is good! W tier list

Personally, I would rather use any of the characters in the good tier rather than Diddy Kong’s class. I feel that the lack of 2 speed is too much to sacrifice for the 1 mini turbo.

I like playing as Rosalina and the lightweights! Sometimes I turn myself off from the meta for a while but this is a good list!

We need this for the Kart Combinations!

One thing to consider and always remember: gear isn't skill. You can use meta combos, if you're not training offline and time trialing, you'll still struggle with finding success.

Finally, a legit tier list video based on the meta, and not by “do I like the character or not takes”

@G_come_Gelo

20 күн бұрын

i absolutely know where you’re coming from and i agree with you so much

Good day to be a member! (I was one in 10 that got gifted it)

If I hear another pop sound effect I'll go crazy!

Yoshi has been my favorite character ever since I started playing mariokart on the 3ds, so I'm glad it's one of the best in mk8 deluxe. 10:30

I really respect wr holders like Yerson to use the Tanooki class instead of the yoshi class when there isnt slippery road in the track.

10:14 that is one of the cleanest edist ive ever seen :O

I'm surprised Yoshi and Birdo didn't get their own tier since there is a difference taking them into competitive vs Peach, Daisy, or Peachette. The latter three will stand out on the minimap for things like target shocks if, suppose that the MVP is on one of those characters. Yoshi and Birdo by comparison blend in to the crowd so your teammate has to track which color you are using, but you don't immediately standout as someone who is safe to hit.

the fact that pink gold peach isn’t on “should retire is crazy

do more ranking videos i like it!

Can you make a tier list for the frames and wheels?

With how powerful peach and daisy are both in mario kart and smash bros, i’m surprised they aren’t both QUEENS yet

@theking8347

19 күн бұрын

Daisy has a dad that's still alive

Koopa was done dirty with the stats but I see people get a lot of success with this character online somehow

Daisy being high tier in smash and kart😎

Another Jpg banger

They really need to include the background stats in the visual comparison in game, especially one as important as mini turbo. This list would almost flip on its head if mini turbo didn’t exist, or, like me, you didn’t know it existed and you were going off of the game stats to make build decisions.

Thank you for not putting Dry Bones on Should Retire so I feel not as wrong using him (you cannot stop me btw)

in my personal opinion, peachette should have NEVER been a part of the yoshi class, and EVERYONE knows diddy does not belong in his class either. what nintendo SHOULD have done is place peachette in the cat peach class and put diddy in the tanooki mario class, that way the characters with them make more sense, and peachette wont be meta and diddy will. Win-Win

@Paperboy01234

23 күн бұрын

Nah, I think it does fine, after all Peachette is a very underappreciated and disliked character, and putting her in the Yoshi class was her only chance at getting used often, sure enough it worked. I do agree with Diddy Kong being in the Cat Peach class, as he would have fit the Tanooki Mario Class much better.

@h3r01cviii5

23 күн бұрын

@@Paperboy01234 yeah but thats the thing, why would you put a character in a certain class just to be used more, like you wouldn't put funky kong in the yoshi class cause he's universally beloved cause that would make no sense, and of any character to make more use of, why peachette? shes bland and boring, has no actual character in the mario universe LITERALLY just being the global image of a power up, and her voice lines are annoying as hell, normal peach and daisy are much better choices to play as then her and the only reason she DOES get used is cause the best mario kart player Kusaan uses her and japanese ppl always have been fanboys of him (also the reason excitebike gets picked so much) i could write multiple essays about why i hate peachette, but i wont do it here cause ik ppl dont take THIS much time to read comments so yeah

@Paperboy01234

23 күн бұрын

@@h3r01cviii5 Peachette has been commonly used a lot when she was released when Wave 6 came out, but it since died down, but she still is used here and there. And having Japanese people follow the “best” 8DX player in the game by doing whatever he does (Except for racing lines and item management) is kind of silly. It should always be noted that anything aside from Yoshi Teddy/Scooty will lower your chances of winning (If not in a lounge setting), and there has been times where he used off meta picks and still wins, but that’s just because he knows what he’s doing. As for Excitebike, so what if it’s his favorite track or something, it’s a very hard track to master, whether you’re bagging or running. Some may say it’s this game’s Russian Roulette track of 8DX for that reason alone. Baby Park and Sky High Sundae have similar layouts but the way the 3 tracks are designed makes the play-style of each track different. One’s a bagger, one’s a runner and one is both. To end this comment off, I get you don’t like Peachette at all, but sometimes you have to accept the reality of other people’s choices.

@Paperboy01234

23 күн бұрын

I should also mention that Kusaan is how Japanese players get their information to being better players, just like how everyone else gets their top information from JPG, Shortcat, Gyrodos, L1am and sometimes even Kusaan himself. I bet even Japanese players even follow the western side of top players provided of course they understand English.

@istoleyunomilesbigmac

16 күн бұрын

but why

Me, a Baby Rosalina main: *slightly depressed I'm still gonna try dominate Mario Kart online with Baby Rosalina

As soon as Birdo was announced I knew I had to use her exclusively since she's my favorite Mario character, and the fact that she's one of the best characters in the game is such a plus

Damn, Koopa and Dry Bones are two of my favorite characters....

As a diehard Lemmy main since 2014, this is unfortunate. At least Daisy is a queen here! I love using her as well

@ouch325

3 күн бұрын

I mean, it’s not your fault lemmy is the best koopaling.

It would not hurt me to swich the Mario class to the top of good

I'll never use teddy buggy or mr scooter ever

Seeing Lemmy at the bottom hurts😂. I main him on the varmint bike and was able to reach 10k vr in just a few days. Now, I just get my ass kicked every race now. You really feel his low speed (and weight) stat come into play with how others easily overtake him during races. Stuck at 12k vr currently and I'm thinking of switching to Green Birdo on Varmint.

As someone who mains Peach and Peachette, I see this as a massive win

Still Dry Bowser for life.

Petey and wiggler so hype they have their own class

YOU KNOW WHAT'S NEXT TO DO JOHN, YOU CANT RUN FROM IT FOREVER, WHAT DO YOU DO AFTER YOU SELECT YOUR CHARACTER AND COMBO?

This man never misses.

Never thought I'd see Wiggler & Shy Guy be put in the Decent tier. I always saw them as the Meta, in my eyes.

3:19 I felt that!

I’m going down the Mario kart rabbit hole on social media. I’m going to be great at this game again. Mario kart 7 was good but this is such a better game

INKLING BOY SUPERMACY 🛐

JPG could you link this tierlist since it's on tiermaker? I can't find another tierlist that uses the individual classes like you have here.

@JPGiviner

23 күн бұрын

I'm sorry to say that I actually put this all together in photoshop, so you can't find it on tiermaker :(

@oshawottcat

23 күн бұрын

@@JPGiviner aww ok thanks for replying!

4:44 Heavy mii has the same stats as Wario, Dry Bowser and Funky

Who cares about stats when you have funky kong

The meadow in my opinion in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is Lemmy on the moped with roller Wheels Cloud glider check its stats and it has full speed

It’s kinda sad to see that both of my favourite characters Koopa and Wiggler aren’t even good in this meta. But I’m also glad that I’ve dropped them both to become a medium Mii main, so I can keep the Wiggler suit while having more optimal stats! 🐻👍

If you place Baby Peach and Baby Daisy in last place, you know you have no idea.

So happy Yoshi is top spot. He's my main in every game

0:14 wait, l thought heavy mii=wario but it was wrong

You hurt my heart when you put baby princess retire tier

Shouldn't cat peach be in lower good or high decent compared to mario class they have -2 speed for +1 mini turbo which is not worth it so they should be ahead of king bop

As someone who never uses teddybuggy or mr scotty, I am very confused

I've found that using shy guy with average acceleration and speed works pretty well. I still don't know why they nerfed shy guy's Invincibility frames though, -0.25?

Vehicle frames ❤

toadette has swag so it's okay.

JPG, this video is absolutely amazing!!!! I loved every second!! ♥️

*sees koopa in bad tier* Angry koopa main noises

As someone who this is new to and doesn’t follow the meta it would’ve been nice to hear an explanation about why “this is 2024” makes a difference and how things have changed.

@fortunemuderhwa9318

14 күн бұрын

There was a balance patch back when wave 4 was released

I don't remember where I saw it, so I can't provide a reference, but I think each point in weight is not equal, and the single largest weight difference for 1 point of weight is the difference between Yoshi Scooty and Male Villager Scooty, so I think there is an argument to be made that the male villager class is slightly better on Mr. Scooty and the Yoshi class is slightly better on teddy buggy.

@axr1798

23 күн бұрын

You can change the glider to get better weight

Bro I love Baby Peach 😭

I miss the heavy weight meta, the characters felt so fast and powerful

W list

Yeah I am still playing baby Peach

I love Toadette. I feel bad for her :(. Imo, the best character is the one you love the most.

Bruh 😭 Lemmy is my favorite character.

@sahaprocks7751

Күн бұрын

As a Lakitu main, I feel the pain. But less

😼Nice. We got the Cat Peach propaganda 😹

Personally, I prefer the high speed characters. With low speed karts & stuff, they're handling is good, and have great speed & mini-turbo. Also, seeing Bowser on a tiny scooter is funny.