Tempest just casually rattling off EVERY Orton Wrestlemania match was impressive.

@coonurkan

Жыл бұрын

It's adorable that he remembered Mania 35.

@jtoby9715

Жыл бұрын

Goals

@absolutezero2-qk3ks

Жыл бұрын

His match with Seth on 31 was pretty good

@Bennyboi004

Жыл бұрын

next episode of Survival Series oncoming?

@zadafcb

Жыл бұрын

yeah it's impressive, but not as much as it seems. I think many wrestling fans could list every Wrestlemania Match for the top guys like Orton, Cena, Triple H, etc.

This hurts so much. As a massive bray wyatt and the fiend fan…man this hurts. I’m exactly with Pete.

@anikawilson1937

Жыл бұрын

Right! I looked at this on KZread and I was like, “ the ending was bad but it for Darn sure wasnt the worst!

@brandonuddstrom

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't possibly agree more.

You know what is even worse about that match? It was april 2021, so only 4 months after Brodie Lee passed away. Bray was in bad place mentally then and they did that to him

@reeseangle9621

Жыл бұрын

Bray sucks

@RobertJW

10 ай бұрын

Oh, God, you're *right*.

Not only was Randy done, but I think Bray was as well. I think with the crappy booking black hole Vince put him into and then losing his best friend back in December of that past year, Bray was just done. I really don't even think he wanted to do this.

@jormungaurd

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I have a feeling that both Randy and Bray were just done with it after Vince told them what he wanted. I think it especially affected them when they saw the box, because no matter how bad it looked that isn't something that you're going to whip up in a couple hours not with the size and painting they had to do on it. I think Vince had it all planned including the ending much earlier he just didn't tell Bray or Randy because he didn't want to give them time to come up with any counter arguments against this.

@Bennyboi004

Жыл бұрын

the Brodie Lee/Luke Harper “yeah yeah yeah” bit is probably the only highlight of the match

@mhuh

Жыл бұрын

Vince burying them together.

@1987TimeLord

4 ай бұрын

@@jormungaurd Just one of infinite reasons to be happy that Vince is gone now. Unfortunately its too late for Bray to reap the benefits :( RIP Windham Rotunda

You know what the most horrifying thing about this match is: It's not even the worst match between these two. I would argue the 'House of Horrors' match at Payback 2017, with the f*cking haunted tractor and Jinder Mahal being there and the dirty fridge and the doll heads and Bray screaming "Welcome to hell" to Randy (because subtly is something that Vince has no concept of), is SO MUCH WORST, and so much longer. Also for some reason its divided into two parts and just has Seth Rollins vs Samoa Joe randomly shoved in-between both halves of the match. Also it ends with f*cking Jinder standing tall. Just, just don't know.

@mayankshukla2056

Жыл бұрын

I don't at all remember Jinder being a part of that match 😂 😂

@MrGared22

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the one that not only got _immediately_ inducted into WrestleCrap, even though they have a rule of waiting one year to "see where it goes", but also was immediately awarded their Gooker Award, because they thought that there could not be anything worse the rest of the year (and then Jinder's reign happened).

This match is even worse in hindsight now because this was Bray's final wrestlemania match, and this is what they booked for it...

The fact that the fiend has shown up on this list twice and for very legitimate reason makes me immeasurable sad. What have they done to my boy. In my eyes, fiend had 3 feuds; Balor, Cena and Bryan. anything else ill pretend doesn’t exist

@paulgibbon5991

Жыл бұрын

The problem with a character like that is that he's only really got two types of matches--either he's an invincible monster (destroying other wrestlers and making them look like scaredey-cats) or he's losing, destroying the mystique and making everyone else who lost to the monster look a bit dumb.

@Shavinderyt

Жыл бұрын

@@paulgibbon5991 There is a potential third type of match, where the monster battles themselves. Sounds weird, but from the start Bray showed he had a weakness; the only reason the fiend came out was to "heal" Bray's past traumas by unleashing on everyone that wronged him in the past. Recall the "Man in the woods" story, from YEARS ago. Have Bray fight the Fiend. Not Bray vs the Fiend in a 1 on 1, but some opponent or situation that would prove Bray doesn't need the Fiend, exploiting that weakness. Everyone Bray came across wronged him, so have him feud with someone that helped him. Bray remembers they helped him, but The fiend wants Bray to destroy them because its a weakness. Like Sami exploiting Roman's weakness of Jey to destroy the Bloodline from within.

I’m really holding out for hogan vs warrior from haloween havoc 1998 That could genuinely top the list over the zombie match

Another great episode! Tempest saying "Hey look it's the Big Box Man" killed me hahaha. 2021 was when I stopped watching wrestling really. Empty arena era was tiring, Bayley not having anything to do AT ALL at Mania was annoying, everything just culminated in me ending my weekly wrestling viewing until Triple H took over.

@FloridaGuy53

Жыл бұрын

Big Box Man can also be used to describe 2010s Big Show.

@aztecwrrior1997

6 ай бұрын

That's kinda me right now I'm watching NFL Football on Mondays cuz yes the product is slightly better but not by much

To those who don't know, The Fiend's "Tunnel of Transformation" was originally used for the Weekend's Super Bowl Halftime Show, which was preformed several days before this Wrestlemania.

@aztecwrrior1997

Жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh that explains why it looked so familiar also it was February this was April so like two months prior to Mania

Tempest remembering every Orton match in Wrestlemania in the last 20 years like nothing is so impressive

I have so much fun watching these i hope this a series that lasts long term!

we need to have Triple H vs Roman Reigns WM 32 or Roman vs Undertaker WM 33 and Brock vs Roman at WM 34 in this list and lets add jerry lawler vs michael cole WM 27

@deathlyshuriken1540

Жыл бұрын

Mania 32 100%, but while Mania 33’s main event was disappointing, I don’t think it belongs on an all time worst list. It was just disappointing and decently bad.

@absolutezero2-qk3ks

Жыл бұрын

​@@deathlyshuriken1540 32 is pure boring.

@TyMarshall007

Жыл бұрын

@@deathlyshuriken1540 Triple H vs Roman is class as one of the worst main Events ever and I'm gonna add something else

@absolutezero2-qk3ks

Жыл бұрын

Only 31 38 is watchable. 39 didn't happen yet. Idk

@TyMarshall007

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezero2-qk3ks Brock vs Roman WM 32-34 was a Terrible Main Event WM 31 main event got saved by Seth Rollins

I'm noticing that one of the parameters that's (perhaps unknowingly) being used to gauge how bad a match is: How much do you actually engage with the match (i.e. how much do you end up talking about other stuff during it).

This was the first episode of this series that I actually did the watch-along and I had never seen the match before. I am now regretting my choice to do so.

@aztecwrrior1997

Жыл бұрын

I did Jenna vs Sharmell and the extreme Elimination Chamber those were big turds

@rr2637

Жыл бұрын

Same here man. Leaves a bad taste

There really are a lot of reasons for either this or Zombies to go over the other. A lot of great points from all three lads. But thinking about it more, I think I might have personally put this at the top. I always loved the Fiend and rooted for him. Even after Hell in a Cell 2019 and Super Showdown 2020, I still had faith in Bray to bring it back and always wanted to see what the Fiend was doing. After this loss to Randy, I couldn't have cared less about the Fiend. More than any bad Bray match, this one killed the character for me.

Still sad that Bray is missing Wrestlemania this year

“Box-like Structure,” 3 Orton draping DDTs (dammit, DLo!), red lights, and the irredeemable damage of one of your most over characters. And it opened a night of Wrestlemania! Woof, this one is for the dogs. At least the zombie match didn’t actively damage anyone or anything. Not even well booked in terms of in-ring spots.

Here’s the crazy thing about this series - I’m not even able to watch along and it’s still my favorite show of 2023!

What’s so funny is that WWE posted this full match on KZread the day you guys post this lmao

I love how four hours after this video went live WWE had the gall to make it free to watch on their KZread channel. Not sure if that means they love the series and did it in response? Also love how the first recommended video underneath is this one, with the thumbnail of you guys looking distraught and the big WORST MATCH EVER logo next to it. But thirdly, love you guys, keep up the awesome work x

You've GOT to do the Tag Team elimination chamber, where they were BREAKING UP PINFALLS IN AN ELIMINATION MATCH, and the Intercontinental Elimination chamber, where Mark Henry got out of his cell early and the match devolved into Ziggler openly calling out spots like TWICE

Was terrified it was going to be Vince vs. Bret next. You'll have to get to that one eventually.

@num1Jaysta

Жыл бұрын

Oh boy. I remember watching that one live. I was just glad to watch Bret again.

How about fiend vs Rollins HIAC as well... i mean vs Goldberg was also bad but THAT Match was so bad it got Fans to chant AEW for the first time at the end of a PPV

@absolutezero2-qk3ks

Жыл бұрын

HIAC2019 may be later

This is even more insulting now because it means Vince took away one of Bray's last years from us...

The Cavalcade of Crapness should be be rechristened as “The Box Like Structure of The Cavalcade of Crapness”

Watch King Mable vs Diesel!

Tempest running of Randy Orton's mania matches of the top of his head is the most impressive thing I've ever seen

@FloridaGuy53

Жыл бұрын

Gives me an idea for the next Survival Series challenge: Name Every Randy Orton Summerslam Match (in reverse-chronological order)

throwback to every single episode of the podcast where the same one guy would without fail always submit a comment about how great alexa's segment was that week

@cjjjjjjjjjj

Жыл бұрын

That guy was obsessed with her, in an unhealthy way

@Homerstar

Жыл бұрын

He’s still doing it, he’s only stopped at the moment because Bliss hasn’t been on TV but he’ll be back when Bliss returns.

Lmao I feel like the background music in the beginning fits you 3 as a group very well lol

Okay, matches like those next week are definitely better palate cleanser matches than my suggestion of just watching a really good match. Can't wait!

I can not wait to see the reaction to Jerry Lawler vs Michael Cole. Thats my pick for what's gonna be number one

This match is now really bad in hind sight considering the passing of bray wyatt

Box like structure kills me everytime lol

We need to appreciate these guys at WrestleTalk for sacrificing themselves watching these terrible matches to entertain us.

Not sure if they're in the box yet, but I gotta recommend: - WCW: Chamber of Horrors - Halloween Havoc 1991 - WCW: Hogan vs. Giant Sumo Monster Truck Match - Halloween Havoc 1995

Eagerly awaiting the first WCW entrant in this series. So many to choose from, my picks would be the Chamber of Horrors Match, Judy Bagwell on a Forklift, and The Doomsday Cage Match.

Pete - "this is butt ass". never a greater way to talk about The Fiend during the COVID era.

Wonderful series as always. Also Piper vs Hogan 97 is more beautifully horrible.

I was there live for this... everything was cool until the finish. After the finish, the crowd near me was ready to walk out immediately. There was a ton of pissed off people.

2021 truly a horrible year for WWE

@jacobandrews2155

Жыл бұрын

True but at least we didn't have to see that stupid Thunderdome anymore after MITB

@absolutezero2-qk3ks

Жыл бұрын

​@Jacob Andrews Roman and The Bloodline was terrible back in 2021

@FHJonesYT

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezero2-qk3ks bloodline carried 2021

I think Michael Cole vs Jerry lawler from Wrestlemania 27 should be in the box

Watching you guys have slight mental breakdowns while watching these matches is a great way to start my Monday. Thanks for the joy 😊

I watched this live,I should of known how bad this was gonna be when I got lost in the stadium,missing Orton’s entrance,and coming just in time for the big box

Hilariously the WWE KZread channel just put this video out half an hour ago so I can more easily watch the match with this video and I love it.

I have to say, I really want to see you guys review the match and the lead-up to Triple H vs Scott Steiner. We saw the death of the Fiend in this match and one can argue that the death of Scott Steiner in WWE was that match.

The weird noises never fail to get a chuckle out of me

For the next series, Hollywood Hogan Vs Warrior from WCW 1998. I forget the ppv it was on, but the failed fireball is so memorably cringe

@zackattack3867

10 ай бұрын

Halloween Havoc

As a huge fan of the fiend this was genuinely upsetting how the character was done so dirty and was deliberately set up to fail I was sat there gob smacked watching it live, nearly woke up everyone in the house at how annoyed I was

Wow! I mean, obviously the whole video is great, and Tempest starting the goofy intro was good, but Pete's funny voice this time got me snorty laughing, so you know it's the best part!

I’ll be watching all of these over the next 2 days since I incidentally ended up with Peacock. Great series and the best use of a free subscription.

Here's one that's a bit off the wall - Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner at Fall Brawl 1998. A marquee match that...yeah...

Saw a video from WWE on KZread posted yesterday that ranks this fiend entrance as No.6 of best entrances in WrestleMania history?!? As a fan of Brays character, I think his debut entrance against Finn was my all time favorite. This one falls a bit far from the mark in my book. Shame that “this” was the end of the fiend.

this was the payoff for a 5 year storyline

It's not a box. IT'S A BOX LIKE STRUCTURE

You know the irony is you posted this reaction the exact day WWE posted the full match in their KZread channel 😂

Absolutely love this show. Really struggling to believe that Fiend vs Orton was 2 Manias ago. Wild. I'm sure you've had a load of comments saying the same matches, but I'll try and suggest some that might be less common suggestions. Mr T Vs Kevin Sullivan: Starrcade 1994 Hogan Vs Rock: No Way Out 2003 Dustin Rhodes Vs Black Top Bully King of the Road: Uncensored 1995 Hogan Vs Andre: Wrestlemania 3 (it's kack) Boss Man Vs Al Snow Kennel from Hell Unforgiven 1999 (you've probably had this a fair bit) Brothers of Destruction Vs Kronik: Unforgiven 2001 Bray Vs Orton House of Horrors: Payback 2017 Buff Bagwell Vs Booker T: 2/0701 Raw is War. Hope this show goes on until every single stinker has been found and logged. ❤

Watching the live reactions as well, and Luke made the same point of "What was the point of crispy Fiend then?"

Following wrestling around that time...man, how low it all was. Bray, Alexa and a demotivated Orton was a painful ride for Wrestlemania. I'd also like to recommend Lillian Garcia vs. Howard Finkel in an Evening Gown/Tuxedo match on Monday Night Raw.

Vince visibly shitting himself when his own music starts playing because he thinks he's selling for Austin's music hitting is a laugh out loud moment

Can I just say that I like this feature - videos are great. But can you take out the part in the intro where Luke says he loves bad wrestling. It’s plainly obvious he doesn’t enjoy bad wrestling hence his anger during all these videos so far

This match was way longer than I remember it being. I remembered enjoying it at the time (until the ending of course) but watching this back, I think I was just excited to see the Fiend again. You know, until this match killed my excitement of ever seeing him again.

Honestly there’s a lot of fun in Mr. McMahon vs Pat Mcafee. I predict it’ll be near the bottom of the rankings but above Jenna and Sharmell

No no no no guys, it's not a simple box, it's a BOX LIKE STRUCTURE

12:50 Perfect delivery there Tempest 😂

I would like to suggest DX vs Brothers of Destruction Crown Jewel

Correction Luke. I think you'll find it is not a box, it's a box like structure.

Pete singing Rkelly had my dying🤣🤣🤣

In honour of this match it should now be called " the brewdog box like structure"

Love these vids! Has anyone suggested the truly dreadful "Four Doinks" (M.O.M./Bushwackers) match from Survivor Series 93? Keep up the awesome work. 🙂

@Darro85

Жыл бұрын

If so, I bet it was the OSW Review guys! :P

I said I wouldn't watch these matches again.............yet here I am...........support Wrestletalk 👍

I still remember this match like it was yesterday (plz hit me to forget it) but then thing I remember the most from being at Mania in Tampa is that after both Alexa and Fiend “disappear” is the loud boos from the crowd and just flat out told me that it was the worst match they have watched live. I couldn’t agree more but at least the main event of night 2 was a banger to forget it for a bit. Great trip down memory lane for my mania weekend but this match can go to the bin lol.

Pete, that was a great Weird Al reference

Tempest casually listing Orton Mania matches. I wish I had that skill

@scottmcclintock4923

Жыл бұрын

So how does the Sharmell match don't rank higher? I guess I'm still trying to gauge their logic on the top of list vs bottom.

@YourPal1

Жыл бұрын

​@@scottmcclintock4923 closer to bottom means best worst matches (something that's so bad but enjoyable) and closer to top means truly awful matches.

The closest thought i have is that Sister Abigail possessed bliss and looked down on the fiend which was a disappointing result to Bray Wyatt's journey twisting fate towards Orton. Thus screwing the Fiend out of returning to the world by taking away his victory and his servant in one swift motion. I say closest because if you made Brays story a video game it in my opinion almost requires as much research as FNAF to understand.

I don't know about worst, but most damaging? Strong case there.

You guys gotta put Vince McMahon vs Bret Hart (Wrestlemania 26) in the box.

Love these, so funny

Fun fact, the day you guys upload this, wwe made this free to watch on KZread. Lol.

Thinking back on this feud and the characters involved, I feel like Vince learned how popular Suicide Squad and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn was years after it came out, and tried to capitalize on it when it was way past it's time.

I can't wait for you guys to watch Taker Vs Gonzalez and Hogan Vs Warrior in WCW

On the topic of setting The Fiend on fire at TKC, I remember seeing that and I could not breathe I was laughing so hard. One of the most unintentionally funny moments in WWE history; probably the funniest thing since Snitsky punted the baby in 2004

@diabeticman2194

Жыл бұрын

The RKO while he was on fire was cool tbf

@Surv1vor1993

Жыл бұрын

@@diabeticman2194 I especially liked how after Randy hit the RKO, the fire went out. So if your house is ever on fire, just give the house an RKO

I just noticed the pen and Sharpe in the intro 😂😂, I thought they were a fork and a knife 😅

Some WCW Suggestions: Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs Warrior- Halloween Havoc 1998 Doomsday Cage Match- Uncensored 1996 Hollywood Hogan & Eric Bischoff vs. DDP & Jay Leno- Road Wild 1998 Randy Savage vs Dennis Rodman- Road Wild 1999 Junkyard Battle Royal- Bash at the Beach 1999

Love this series!! My vote would be for you to watch RR2003 Triple H vs Scott Steiner WOW ITS BAD

Tempest's face in the thumbnail sums up the match so well

I've never seen Roman/Bryan/Edge in the main event of this show because this match killed any interest I had in this show.

1. Vince vs Pat 2. Zombies 3. Fiend vs Randy 4. Gown Match 5. Oldberg vs Undertaker 6. Jenna vs Sharmell 7. Extreme Chamber

Luke taking trash on Bliss will never not be funny to me. Luke hates her so much and it's the funniest thing.

@YourPal1

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't hate her. He hates her fiend character.

I think as a treat we need to see them react to the Hardcore Triple Threat (if that’s not something already on like their patreon) :)

A few suggestions for Worst Match Ever: •The Miz vs John Cena Wrestlemania 27 •DX vs The Brothers of Destruction Crown Jewel 2018 •Kofi Kingston vs Brock Lesnar Smackdown October 4th 2019 • Undertaker vs Giant Gonzalez Wrestlemania 9 • Sting Vs Jeff Hardy Victory Road 2011

If you guys can do Doc Gallows vs Sylvester Terkay (the one where Inoki comes out pissed off at how bad the match is)

The best-worst thing bout that match is Michael Cole calling the Alexa's big cube thing a "box-like structure." A BOX-LIKE STRUCTURE. You mean like a BOX, Michael?

I would be very interested in a video regarding the worst Mania track records.

I got a good one: The Headshrinkers, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Bastion Booger vs Mo Doink, Mabel Doink, Luke Doink, and Butch Doink at Survivor Series 93.

I will say hand on heart that Maximillion Pegasus and his toon world monsters were more intimidating then this final death rattle of the fiend

If this is a quest for the worst match ever, then wouldn't it stand to reason that the person who shows up the most in these would be arguably the worst wrestler? Unrelated, where's Sid?

21:10 Pete watches Trapped in the Closet 🤣

I don't know how bad it is, but there's Octagoncito and Mascarita Dorada vs. Pequenio Halloween and Tigresa Caliente that caught some -5 star heat from Bryan and Vinny.

Glad to see you get to watch something next week that will not crush your soul again.