Rammstein - Deutschland (Official Video) - OldSkuleNerd Reaction

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  • @fernandorodrigues1939
    @fernandorodrigues19392 жыл бұрын

    No country has only nice and pretty history... we must embrace the good and learn from the bad not to do it again!

  • @TzahiAlexandrovich
    @TzahiAlexandrovich2 жыл бұрын

    im a jew born in israel , most of my family died in auschwitz but when i heard that song for the first time i cried its one of rammstein best song ever

  • @michaelfinck7487
    @michaelfinck74872 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people do not understand the scenes with the dogs. This breed of dogs are not German Shepards, but Leonberger. This breed of dog narrowly escaped extinction during the First and Second World Wars and is symbolic of the German people, whose existence was also strongly threatened in those wars - both now have a second existential chance. The whole Video will understand only Historians and Germans and these people also have to watch the video several times. The song is about the ambivalent relationship of Rammstein and many Germans to their country, because of the violent and cruel history with extensive human crimes, especially in recent history. Therefore the video features various events from German history, including Roman times, the Middle Ages, witch hunting and burning, Protestant Reformation, the November Revolution, the "Golden Twenties" and hyperinflation, Nazi book burnings, the Hindenburg disaster, the First and Second World Wars, the Holocaust, the Weimar Republic, the Red Army Fraction (violent anti-capitalist terror alliance of young people and students against Nazis in high state and economy positions in post-war Germany), and the division of the country into West and East Germany including the Uprising June 17 in East Germany. The black woman represents Germany, sometimes as a victim, but mostly as a perpetrator. With her black skin she is also a provocation to all stupid racists The Holocaust was for this reason the greatest human crime because it was the first industrially organized mass murder in human history, by a country that was culturally at its highest point at this time in the world and called itself the country of poets and thinkers. But it is precisely the high cultural and scientific level of Germany that unfortunately caused others to be viewed as subhuman who can be killed without pity, just like animals. Seeing other people as inferior has always brought a lot of suffering to people

  • @malibustacys80085

    @malibustacys80085

    Жыл бұрын

    I am german, but I didn't knew that about the Leonbergers. It is always nice to learn new things.

  • @spring_in_paris
    @spring_in_paris2 жыл бұрын

    I'm German and I'm seriously impressed about how much you know about German history. Very impressed. Nice reaction. Kudos. Love the song so much, because it touches my German soul and how I feel about my country: a love- hate- relationship. With love from Germany 🤘 😎

  • @MaxMustermann-on2gd

    @MaxMustermann-on2gd

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ich hab kein love-hate relationship mit Deutschland. Sorry

  • @spring_in_paris

    @spring_in_paris

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MaxMustermann-on2gd ja siehste. Ist doch schön für Dich. Jeder hat da so seine Einstellung. Deshalb ja auch nicht Alle, sondern Viele.

  • @HerrMatom

    @HerrMatom

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mir gehts ganz genauso. Dieser Song trifft mich immer an einer ganz speziellen Stelle irgendwie. Kann es nicht mal wirklich erklären. and: Yeah, nice reaction. and, and: OldSkule should have used subtitles for the lyrics because the imagery and the Text go hand in hand in my Opinion.

  • @walther89

    @walther89

    Жыл бұрын

    not so many dont listen in history class :D specially in US also are not interested other side of world

  • @TheSniatch
    @TheSniatch2 жыл бұрын

    Germania is a personification of Germany and Germania was always portrait as a female.

  • @kusten-kind2392
    @kusten-kind23922 жыл бұрын

    the youtube chanel "three arrows" did a pretty good historycal analysis on this musicvideo. i mean its worth to look at

  • @maikganz9266
    @maikganz92662 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Germany so let me give you some thoughts from someone who's born here. First of all, first time I watched the video I was shocked and deeply moved. The song/ video takes a very deep look into our german souls and how most of us feel about our country. It's a love- hate- relationship. The video is loaded with tons of symbols, that as a German you catch onto. Let's start: in the intro you see Germania ( Personification of Germany) during roman/ germanian tribes time. The red Lazer represents the "red thread" of the story/ history. Astronauts from the future bringing Germania in a glass coffin (snow-white) so she can lead through the/her german history. Next you observe the twenties(Weimar Republic).The prison scene representing the rough, violent times especially for the majority of the population struggling to survive. Money raining down/ the great depression. And Germany's first try as a democratic state. In between Germania is dressed in knight's armor awaking her knights/band with the Lazarus spear. Next Germania is pushed in a wheelchair by the band through the Berlin Holocaust Memorial with burning bodies. Next vignette the office scene showing east Germany and west Germany reunited (1989). Then you're being taken back to mideveal times, monks/ church are feasting off of Germania. In most scenes you'll see some church man involved. No coincidence. The concentration camp scene in the background you see V2 rockets ignition. The inmates are wearing different types of stars on their chests and a sign on the gallows reads: no photos. Germania wears an eye-patch first on her left, than on her right eye. Than a quick shot of Germania dressed modern with lots of gold leading german shepherds., representing Germany's wealth. The 70's scene shows the RAF- extremists holding Germania/ Germany hostage. Next vignette is the witch burnings shifting to the book burning. If you have a close look, at minute @ you see a church man holding up a cross hugging a Nazi, symbolising the churches over all position to the horrific events happening during 1933-1945. The birth scene. Germania is giving birth to dogs respectively "Leonberger" a breed preferred by Kings and Queens. The Breed almost went extinct during WW1 and WW2. A cardinal helping (dressed in red) a new Germany being born. At minute @ you see the riots against refugees homes in the 90's in Hoyerswerda. Molotovs are being thrown and a car is being pushed over with the help of a man dressed in Nazi uniform. Than the scenes/ time vignettes start shifting faster and faster, showing how many times, when circumstances becoming to extreme everything is falling apart and Germania ( dressed in knight's) armor is crying. The outro is the piano version of the song "Sonne" which completed how we feel thinking of our past: a sense of sadness. To sum it up. Germany has a long, wild, violent, unique history, because we as a state of today exist only since 1989. Yet the roots go back a very long time. "Young and yet so old" I hope that helped a little to understand the video and with that us Germans. We don't have a strong feeling of patriotism, but a strong sense of unity. It's complicated. With love from Germany 🤘 😎

  • @onetom2222

    @onetom2222

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also like and it's worth mentioning that it's the band members being the soldiers fighting, the priests that feast upon germany, the DDR men pulling shady shit in secrecy, the Nazis burning the books and the jews, roma, gays, communists and disabled being executed. The video is kinda isolated, sparing no glance at what atrocities and what burden germany has inflicted upon non-germans, but the song is by and for germans, so it kinda makes sense.

  • @asvagar8163

    @asvagar8163

    2 жыл бұрын

    we learned. something other nations should do

  • @natti8729

    @natti8729

    2 жыл бұрын

    DANKE! Für deine super Erklärung! Paar Sachen hab ich sogar nicht gewusst. Aber es du hast die Zeppelin scène vergessen :)

  • @johnvanhal2450

    @johnvanhal2450

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the Prussian uniform that Germania is wearing. An important era în German history.

  • @purpleelephantdebh

    @purpleelephantdebh

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you for this explanation. i have seen many explanations for the video but yours is the most concise. thank you.

  • @JoseRodriguezBaby
    @JoseRodriguezBaby Жыл бұрын

    I love how you caught many of the references unlike other reactions. Great video.

  • @neildewestelinck6639
    @neildewestelinck66392 жыл бұрын

    The woman (forgot her name) is so well cast for this role!

  • @eladiobardelli3001

    @eladiobardelli3001

    Жыл бұрын

    Es cosa de ver el video de nuevo y ves su nombre al final de los créditos ( Ruby Commey ) cuando termina la canción, no es mucho trabajo hacer eso , saludos desde Chile donde acogimos al nazi Paul Schäfer y al comunista Erich Honecker, no es casualidad que Chile sea un experimento social

  • @mrm7058
    @mrm70582 жыл бұрын

    Regarding feasting on Germania - the most convincing interpretation I have read is that this was a reference to the 30-year war, catholic against protestants, 30% of the German population was killed. It was kind of a "cannibalistic" (aka civil) war.

  • @pyrointeam
    @pyrointeam2 жыл бұрын

    If you look closely you can see the Black girl (Germania - Symbol of the German Motherland and Unification) wearing something Golden and Red (lipsstick, contacts, armor, chains) in every scene (except WWII). That's because the german flag is Black, Red and Gold.

  • @andreasklopper3412
    @andreasklopper34122 жыл бұрын

    Hi Guys, the old Factory you can see in this Video, it's not a Requisit, it's real. The Name was "Phosphatwerke Rüdersdorf" (Phosphatworks Ruedersdorf) near Berlin, abandonded since 1989. Quentin Tarantino was even there to make Scenes for his Movie "Inglorious Bastards". Many Greets from Germany to the U.S. 🙂

  • @andreasnordin9023
    @andreasnordin90232 жыл бұрын

    The masterpiece.

  • @AggressivelyLoving
    @AggressivelyLoving2 жыл бұрын

    I can't find this on any reaction to this video and I find it very important to know: Whenever he says "Deutschland, Deutschland über Allen!" (Germany, Germany over all!) they use a clever way to say that phrase legally because that sentence is highly illegal to say out loud in Germany because that's what Nazis used to say. Although the forbidden phrase uses "Alles" instead of "Allen" which translates to "over *everything*" instead of "everyone" used in this song. I love that so much.

  • @TROUBLESOME.87
    @TROUBLESOME.872 жыл бұрын

    I think i have seen like 30 reactions to this song, and you are the first person to mention the U Boot in Space lol. THANK YOU ! I can rest now. :D

  • @huba3885
    @huba38852 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that u guys watched ze "Outro" ... many people just skip it but I think it is an essential part of ze song

  • @DJ.1.
    @DJ.1.2 жыл бұрын

    ich liebe und hasse mein land so sehr.... jeden tag ein bißchen mehr ❤💔

  • @herrjemine9567
    @herrjemine95672 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! I'm German, and i saw maybe 25 reactions to "Deutschland" since yesterday, but none oft them approached yours here by far. I was amazed after your first break about your knowledge and your sheer ability to recognize all these hints and sceneries. You were also the first one to see the u-boat. I'm lost and rootless in this country since my birth 50 years ago. The 80s' Zeitgeist in which I grew up to some kind of supposedly thinking being, was so unreflected, carried of "No Future" and cold war and fear of nuclear war and of nuclear energy as well, all those protesters on the streets seemed not more than being selfish, raising themselves above anyone before, protest as self-purpose. There was no proud at all, with everyone always refering to the cruelties of the Nazi regime (and this got only worse till today!). So I had not a bit of interest for any kind of German history prior WW2 to this day, stumbling indifferent through life as not much more than a nihilist. Watching all these reactions and especially reading all the excellent analysis, breaking down this huge history to me, changes nearly everything. Until yesterday, I was only "happy" to be born by accident into a National State of wellfare and into a time, where I could have reached a financial status of not missing anything and therefore a mind-set of not appreciating any values, just right before we all will have to face a huge downgrade coming up to us. Maybe now I can find some roots for me too, and hopefully a healthier mind-set as well.

  • @johnsullivan659

    @johnsullivan659

    2 жыл бұрын

    i saw the hindenburg! im sure the girl with the beads in here hair is playing josaphine baker

  • @nikkinoise1
    @nikkinoise12 жыл бұрын

    There is confusion about Brazilians too. Everyone thinks that all Brazilian women are black and dance samba. Here we also had a lot of European colonization from different countries. I'm 1/3 German, 1/3 Italian and 1/3 a mix of Basques, Hungarians, English and Irish. I'm blonde, I have blue eyes, I'm crazy about metal and I don't know how to dance samba. Nobody believes I'm Brazilian.

  • @Pops-km8xt

    @Pops-km8xt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lines on a map. We are all one.

  • @riploljustforfu9929
    @riploljustforfu99292 жыл бұрын

    5:17 She's representing the Germanic tribes, not the Gauls. The Gauls were West of the river Rhine and predecessors to the French.

  • @martinguandjienchan7525
    @martinguandjienchan75252 жыл бұрын

    The entry scene takes place several years after the Roman defeat in the Teuteburg forest. The Roman legionary with a bandaged head is Flavius, the younger brother of Arminius, the victor of the battle and "national hero". He was fighting on the Roman side. The head the black Germania cuts off the body is NOT the head of a Roman, but the one of Arminius. This symbolises the birth of Deutschland: It started as a war amoung brothers, one in favour and one against Rome. Throughout the clip the theme of brother war is constant. As is the the contrast between positive and negative. Astronauts are featured as well as the V2 rocket of WW2, which is the mother of civil space flight as well as nuclear ICBMs. In one of the first scenes a crippled Germania is roled in a wheel chair through the burning holocaust memorial in Berlin. The film is so full of symbols, even snowwhite is included! (The glass coffin put into space).The entry scene takes place several years after the Roman defeat in the Teuteburg forest. The Roman legionary with a bandaged head is Flavius, the younger brother of Arminius, the victor of the battle and "national hero". He was fighting on the Roman side. The head the black Germania cuts off the body is NOT the head of a Roman, but the one of Arminius. This symbolises the birth of Deutschland: It started as a war amoung brothers, one in favour and one against Rome. Throughout the clip the theme of brother war is constant. As is the the contrast between positive and negative. Astronauts are featured as well as the V2 rocket of WW2, which is the mother of civil space flight as well as nuclear ICBMs. In one of the first scenes a crippled Germania is roled in a wheel chair through the burning holocaust memorial in Berlin. The film is so full of symbols, even snowwhite is included! (The glass coffin put into space).

  • @michaelmiller6924
    @michaelmiller6924 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I'm from Germany. Rammstein is playing a classic "Industrial Metal" style. A 50-50 mix of synthesizers and hard metal guitars. A big part of the German history in one video. The black woman as Germania. Germania is the personification of the German nation. It isn't and wasn't a goddess or Joan of Arc. The glass coffin: It is Little Snow White from the Grimm-fairytales....and from their own video "Sonne". Only with black skin and in space. The piano song at the end is the song "Sonne", too. The line in this song "So jung und doch so alt" (So young and yet so old) means: Germany as a unified state is very young. A unified German nation is only existing from 1871 onwards. Before that year of unification Germany was made of countless, little mini-states and the people identified first and foremost as Prussians, Hessians, Saxons etc, etc, etc. and only in a second line of thought they had a lose sense of being somehow Germans, too, as a kind of unifying second identity. So the area & the landscape where the Germans are living and the Germans themselves as a people...are thousands of years old. But only recently, in 1871, there was a unified Germany as one single state. So Germany as a unified state is very young...and at the same time it is thousands of years old. The battle of the Teutoburg forest against the Romans (and Rammstein as Roman soldiers and Germans alike). That battle is of ABSOLUTE importance for the German history. The hanged bodies in the trees were the beaten Roman soldiers, who were gruesome sacrificed to the Germanic gods...and were partly nailed to the trees. The Varus-(Teutoburg)-Battle was already in 9 AD. In 16 AD were the vengeance campaigns of Emperor Germanicus. Therefore we see here the arrival of the Roman troops of Germanicus and they are watching their dead comrades hanging in the trees or getting their heads chopped off (for nailing them to the trees). In reality the Romans under Germanicus found only the bones of the Varus army in the various ways they were slaughtered, sacrificed and displayed at the trees. Slaves were liberated even decades after the battle. After the scenes with the Romans we saw the Hindenburg Zeppelin disaster (the burning Zeppelin in the background). The moustaches and clothing from the fight scene are from WWI and post WWI years. From the working class people in WWI and the roaring 20's. In the WWII years later on this kind of big bushy moustache was already out of fashion. The falling banknotes in the prison are not about corruption. That scene is about the hyper-inflation of the 1920's, that took away the savings of the Germans and left them in deep poverty and desperation. One had to pay a loaf of bread with a handcart full of nearly worthless banknotes back then and it hit the German people deep down inside and in their souls. Especially the poor ones and the simple workers. The V2 rocket (first manmade object in space) as technical triumph of the German spirit...and at the same time the killing of the concentration camp prisoners in the bunker factories below the mountains during the production of that rocket. This scene in the video could be a representation of a very specific concentration camp. It was "Mittelbau-Dora" below the Kohnstein mountain. A mixture between a big, huge bunker factory for V1 and V2 rockets and a concentration camp. The concentration camp inmates had several different markings for different kinds of convicts and their "crimes" sown to their chests, like it was in reality, too. A pink triangle for homosexuals, the star of David for Jews and two of them were marked with the double-triangles for Jehovas Whitnesses. The book burnings of the Nazis and the burning of the witches of the church. In the same scene with the book burning there is EVEN MORE going on. The cooperation of the church with the Nazis, when the priest with the cross embraces the Nazi SA-man. The scene with the sign with the Hammer and a pair of compasses in a circle of wheat is the sign of the GDR (DDR). The socialst German state in the east that existed before the German reunification. Therefore it was Karl Marx in the background in the scene with the tank (not the scene at the concentration camp). The scene with Rammstein wielding guns (the pumpgun) and taking Germania hostage was about leftwing terrorism of the 1970's. The terrorists were called the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion). My interpretation of the red scanner-like beams: There are two different kinds of beams. The massive straight red light beam that goes up into the heavens AND there were those smaller, thinner "scanner" beams. Aliens (or humans from the future) are scanning the whole German history. Like some real scientists are scanning and excarvating ancient Mexican or Egyptian statues, for example. The massive red light beam is the red ribbon of time that ties together all the historical events. PS: As for the dogs: Germans are fanatical dog lovers. We are a dog-owner nation. The dog is a firm part of Germany. PPS: They didn't eat the body of the woman and her inner organs, even if it really looked that way. They were eating the national dish of Germany, that was put on the body of the black woman: Sauerkraut, Kassler & sausages. In my opinion it symbolizes the church eating itself fat on the goods and values and food of Germany during the simple people (farmers, simple workers etc) lived a long time in a kind of hell of poverty and serfdom (the red fetish area below the table with Germania on it). But that eating scene could indeed have a double meaning. It could represent the 30 years war, that was fought for religious reasons and depopulated large areas of Germany. It forced the people to commit canibalism because nobody was there anymore to produce food. Except the fat, wealthy people of the church, of course. They were still able to eat enough. Only the simple people at the bottom (farmers etc) died from hunger and had to fight and die in that war. The 30 years war was the biggest catastrophe in Germany until WWI happened. PPPS: The short scene with the dogs and their gas masks = WWI, where in reality animals (messenger dogs & horses) AND soldiers were wearing gas masks, too. PPPPS: The puppies at the end are Leonberger dogs. The Leonbergers nearly went extinct during WWI and WWII. PPPPPS: The black woman in the prison was dressed in a Prussian uniform with a Prussian helmet. Till sings the famous, often misinterpreted, line of the "Deutschlandlied" (Song of the Germans), that is not forbidden in Germany but simply isn't sung anymore in our modern national anthem. Till sings in his version the line "Deutschland über allen" (Germany above everybody) What is a BIG change to the real line in the orginal Deutschlandlied-song. In the original Deutschlandlied song it is written as "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above everything). The real, whole line of that old Deutschlandlied goes "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles. Über alles in der Welt" (Germany, Germany above everything. Above everything in the world). This line is often misinterpreted by many people as chauvinism and as a looking down upon all other countries on this planet. But that is wrong and not many people know about that in Germany and elsewhere. The writer of that famous line didn't meant it in a chauvinistic way. When that song was written, Germany was divided into umphteeth mini-states, what made Germany relative powerless and defenseless. Therefore the task of German unification was the goal above any other goal for all Germans (at least the writer of the song meant it that way). So the main goal for all Germans had to be the united Germany. The goal of "(united) Germany above everything else". That was, how that line was meant by the writer of the song. The line isn't forbidden, like many people wrongly think. It's simply not sung anymore and not part of the official anthem of modern Germany anymore. This has NOT its reason in the seemingly chauvinist meaning of "Deutschland über alles", like many people wrongly think. This whole stanza of the Deutschlandlied isn't sung anymore, because in other parts of the stanza are borders and landscapes mentioned, that aren't German borders and landscapes anymore. We want to live in peace with the people and countries, who are now living in those former German lands and therefore we don't sing about those old borders and landscapes anymore. It has nothing to do with the "Deutschland über alles" line in that stanza, like many people wrongly are thinking. Finally: The scenes I'm now talking about are pretty dark and low light. The WWII submarine in the submarine bunker during the astronauts are walking by with the glass coffin. I think, the choice of the black woman as main actress was made, because: a) it makes any accusations of racism and fascism against Rammstein useless b) she represents one colour of the German flag and she is wearing the rest of the colours of our German flag as makeup and jewellery and clothes on her body: Black, Red and Gold c) it provokes many people EVEN MORE 😄 Greetings

  • @maikbe9169
    @maikbe9169 Жыл бұрын

    best react i've ever watched. greets from germany!

  • @arnodobler1096
    @arnodobler10962 жыл бұрын

    Nice to listen to 2 intelligent educated people Greetings from Germany 🤘🤘

  • @alexeylukyanov3361
    @alexeylukyanov33612 жыл бұрын

    For me, this video is a masterpiece. Just listening to the music and song - it is good, but the visual image make it hundred times deeper. I watched it at the day of release and I was stunned. Rewind, stop, watch again - to realize the images and their meaning. What did musicians wanted to tell and and director wanted to show me. the best clip for many yeras, for me. One more small thing - quotes of Rammstein's own previous works. Sonne, Engel and so on. Masterpiece Thanks for your reation

  • @cptaubrey
    @cptaubrey2 жыл бұрын

    Stumpled upon your channel some months ago. Not every band you're talking about is my cup of tea (not talking about Rammstein here) but l have to say that i enjoy every Video i've watched so far. Your reactions are intelligent, your way of talking about things is charming and you're kind of cute - keep up the great work! :-)

  • @johamlett27
    @johamlett272 жыл бұрын

    One of the best reactions I've seen to an incredible 'music video' (though of course its far more than that). I've seen one KZreadr state they don't like to read what it's about before they give their reaction then spent the while video thoroughly confused because they didn't know what was going on and another who thought Germania was Joan of Arc! Thanks to you for actually doing your homework first!

  • @sonjaleesloth
    @sonjaleesloth2 жыл бұрын

    My new cat is from Folsom, LA! We named her Mala which is Mandarin for "spicy!" Rammstein is touring the U.S. so look them up! I have tickets for their Boston Massachusetts show in September! 💥

  • @ReadingOne
    @ReadingOne Жыл бұрын

    Might just be the mood I’m in, but as heartbreaking as certain images in the video were already, it’s somehow even more heartbreaking if you rewatch it with the English lyrics on.

  • @hendrixxxm637
    @hendrixxxm6378 ай бұрын

    One of the best reactions‼️

  • @fionadowdeswell-simmons4968
    @fionadowdeswell-simmons49682 жыл бұрын

    From the first time I watched this video and heard the song, I've always thought that both were brave. It takes courage to confront your country's past, recent or historic, and to do so in such an unflinching manner. There's so much layering in both and so many easter eggs hidden in the video that you have to watch Lord knows how many times to get them all even if you're German and a Rammstein fan. I'm not German, I'm from the UK so I was on a hiding to little as I knew very little about Germany pre-WW1. Post WW1, I was OK on the history as my son studied this for 7 years at school and I was interested as well. Even now, I'm still picking up references to songs. I'm Welsh first and foremost and British second because I know what happened to Wales in the past and it isn't pleasant. We have to acknowledge our past, learn from it and make every endeavour not to repeat the mistakes. It doesn't always happen sadly. Should the UK cease to be Plague Island at some point soon, I might get to see Rammstein in the summer. Who knows right now as our government are making the same mistakes over the current crises time and time again. Interesting reaction from you both, guys. Thanks.

  • @rodscheck9480
    @rodscheck94802 жыл бұрын

    Love the Leonberger puppies. The dog of German royalty

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali102 жыл бұрын

    The video basically jumps around German history, like the scene with the monks describing how the church at one point "picked the bones" of the country while the general population suffered and fought for table scraps underneath. The song describes how one wants to have national pride, wants to like/love Germany, but can't because of the dark phases. The imagery with the astronauts and the lasers is basically a group of aliens/time travelers finding the ruins in the far future, and scanning various things showing them the different eras. We (germans) have a difficult relation with our past, which is summarized this video/song, including "your breath is cold at such a young age" about how the country "died" so many times after so few years. Germany died in/after WW1, after WW2, and in a way had another "rebirth" after reunification. Germany has some of the lowest national prides in the world, and "Vergangenheitsschuld" (a sense of guilt and shame about past atrocities) weighs heavily on the population even today. People feel ashamed to say they are German/like Germany, people won't easily say they're proud to be German, because of what happened some 80 years ago. In Music, that's why it's weird to see something like "No Bullets Fly" by Sabaton, because we're not used to being pictured positively, no history teacher in germany will talk about good things that Germans did in WW2. You can't speak (too) positively about Germany, especially not 1930-1945. Because it gets equated with downplaying naziism.

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali102 жыл бұрын

    One thing to note: In germany, if you want to make a movie with Nazi insignia (or even just want to release it in germany), you have to get it specially evaluated to get a special permission saying it's true to history and not glorifying Naziism/their atrocities. This video got the permission, despite the outcry some of the scenes caused. Also, the woman is meant to be "Germania", a godess the pre-german group of tribes ("Germanen") were named after. Casting a dark-skinned woman in that role angered A LOT of conservatives/right wing groups, and further worked against the constant claims that Rammstein is right wing (they're not, they're from the DDR/GDR for crying out loud)

  • @riploljustforfu9929

    @riploljustforfu9929

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Germanic tribes were named that way because the Romans called the area East of the Rhine "Germania". The name "Germania" was also used for the personified representation of Germany/the idea of a German nation. This (obviously) came much later and she was never seen as a godess.

  • @sisterhoney61
    @sisterhoney612 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I didn't realize that you hadn't reacted to this song. Rammstein are fucking awesome! And yes, it's stein, like what you use to drink German beer.

  • @poczytajmycos
    @poczytajmycos2 жыл бұрын

    They don't eat the woman. She's covered by typical german food (sausages for example) and while she represents Germany (Germania) it seems like the monks (the church?) is eating the country (that's how I understand it).

  • @Hellion73
    @Hellion732 жыл бұрын

    At the start, its the Teutoburg forest battle, one of the more horrific but "awesome" historical battles ever...at least from the germanic side🤷‍♂️. I am not german, but know that many of them, considere the events around that time, as the birth of their "nation" in the sense that many tribes unified against a common enemy.

  • @mariorosko1808
    @mariorosko18082 жыл бұрын

    Nice Reaction. Greetings from Frankfurt Germany... ;)

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali102 жыл бұрын

    In case you two care: The old convertible they ride in is a 1939 Adler Trumpf Junior Cabriolet

  • @OMK8744
    @OMK87442 жыл бұрын

    You have cried a lot In the mind apart In the heart united We have been together for a very long time Your breath is cold The heart in flames You I Us You (plural) Germany My heart in flames Want to love you, want to damn you Germany Your breath is cold So young And yet so old Germany I I never want to leave you One can love you And want to hate you Overbearing Superior To take over To surrender Surprising To assault Germany, Germany over everyone Germany My heart in flames Want to love you, want to damn you Germany Your breath is cold So young And yet so old Germany Germany Your love is a curse and a blessing Germany My love I cannot give to you Germany Germany You I Us You (plural) Superior Needless Übermenschen Weary The higher you climb, the farther you fall Germany, Germany over everyone Germany My heart in flames Want to love you, want to damn you Germany Your breath is cold So young And yet so old Germany Your love is a curse and a blessing Germany My love I cannot give to you Germany

  • @erod8479
    @erod84792 жыл бұрын

    Hello gentlemen, I'm new around these parts, really enjoyed this reaction video, I'm a fan of Rammstein, I'm relation to your conversation at towards the end regarding the "Spanish" conversation, reminded me that a few years back RAMMSTEIN did a song in Spanish called "Te quiero puta" you should check it out, I find it very entertaining

  • @Sharinator
    @Sharinator2 жыл бұрын

    Great reaction! Greetings from Germany

  • @markengelson9051
    @markengelson90512 жыл бұрын

    The song is Engel where he wears those wings at Madison Square Garden

  • @joh3383
    @joh33832 жыл бұрын

    The symbols for east-germany (known as DDR = German Democratic Republic) are hammer, sickle and wheat wreath (= Hammer, Sichel und Ährenkranz). It hurts because there is no compass. ^^ greetz from a person who grow up in the DDR

  • @stijnoudelaar4808
    @stijnoudelaar4808 Жыл бұрын

    compliments for your sharp insight

  • @ExploringWithBenandSam
    @ExploringWithBenandSam2 жыл бұрын

    Rammstein is supposed to come to San Antonio this summer in September... but has been postponed twice... I've had tickets for almost two years for the main pit. Alamo Dome here I come... hopefully haha

  • @emiliajojo5703
    @emiliajojo5703 Жыл бұрын

    Tom and Rammstein how crazy genious would that be.

  • @jensbinder3148
    @jensbinder31482 жыл бұрын

    It's hard to understand for a non-german. Because of our past we find it weird to wave flags and be proud of a country. It's weird for Americans, but I find it positive that you don't define your personality about were you are born, instead what do you do for a better future. I'm not proud to be german, i'm lucky to be born here in this time.

  • @sanjadjordjevic2537
    @sanjadjordjevic25372 жыл бұрын

    Great reaction ❤️

  • @Pops-km8xt
    @Pops-km8xt2 жыл бұрын

    The statue head with the eye covered is Armenius.

  • @jessicam.245
    @jessicam.2452 жыл бұрын

    You should definitely do their video "Angst" which is pretty new or a older one called "Mein Herz brennt" (original video) They are just so awesome!

  • @Peter_Cetera
    @Peter_Cetera2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent reaction!

  • @neoxperson7858
    @neoxperson78582 жыл бұрын

    "Wer hoch steigt, wird tief fallen, Deutschland, Deutschland, über allen." "The higher you climb, the further you'll fall, Germany, Germany, above all". The best line out of the entire song in my opinion. From the moment where Germany as a nation was born, it was the strongest power in Europe. We fell after the first world war, we climbed our way back up, conquering half of Europe, only to fall yet again, now we're one of the, if not the strongest political power in Europe, and one of the strongest powers of the entire world. It's such a short line, but it says a lot.

  • @azorazul007

    @azorazul007

    2 жыл бұрын

    "über allen" means "above Everybody"... above all is "über alles". Bitte.

  • @Mart687

    @Mart687

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a reference to the ww2 German national anthem which was forbidden. Deutschland, Deutschland, über alles was changed to Deutschland, Deutschland, über allen.

  • @IR4TE

    @IR4TE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mart687 the anthem is older than the ww2 times, it was written that way before the german state existed, and all the little kingdoms and duchies still existed, but overall a longing for a unified german state was growing. That line just got misappropriated by the ns shitheads like so much other stuff.

  • @RadarLightwave

    @RadarLightwave

    2 жыл бұрын

    And France fucking hates it!

  • @danielfahrion2603

    @danielfahrion2603

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RadarLightwave yeah, but it's France 🤔🤷

  • @claudiarichter439
    @claudiarichter43911 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much.

  • @orangeblack1285
    @orangeblack12852 жыл бұрын

    16:33 Hey hey hey there. I am from Germany. And I totally know what a foot is. In fact, I have two of em.

  • @philipp0209
    @philipp02092 жыл бұрын

    little mistake: gaul is not the germania region though it would be where france is today haha

  • @dallesamllhals9161

    @dallesamllhals9161

    Жыл бұрын

    ..well, that's just 'cause ROME got ya! WAIT! ..there was a tiny little village... ;-)

  • @retowalti9227
    @retowalti92272 жыл бұрын

    Hi this is a copy paste and i think it really helps to understand the meaning of the song= German is my first language - so as a native pls let me explain as concise as possible many of the hidden symbols and meanings in this great song: In advance - please apologize the mistakes that I have certainly made as English is not my first language :-) Before I go through it just some general remarks: the black lady’s persona in the video is “Germania” and she represents Germany (the nation / the people) and in many scenes where she appears the colors black, red and gold (colors of the German flag) are dominant. The video as well as the lyrics are a critical review on Germany’s history. Main scenes of the video: The first scene with the roman soldiers refers to the battle of Teutoburg forest, the first time the German tribes untied under Arminius against the Romans and ambushed them on their march back to their winter camp + completely annihilated several legions - the romans would never return and fortify at the Rhine - this could be seen as the birth of the German identity. The red laser beams throughout the video I think are guiding thread (German expression “roter Faden”" translates to “red thread” and translates to guiding principle / guideline of a story) When Germania (black lady) in golden armor (black red gold as main colors of the scene pushes the standard into the ground she raises all the dead medieval knights - a reference to the strength of the German people who recovered time after time throughout history from catastrophes (especially, but not only) in the middle ages (crusades, Hunnic invasion, plague, etc.) - the additional meaning i think is the fact that German people several times followed their countries call for War - even if they were already beaten up (e.g. after WWI going into WWII) Next scene (fistfight) is from the roaring twenties, the period between the two world wars where upper class society was decadent on the backs of ordinary people + entertainment industry was born. Next scene shows the Hindenburg disaster (famous German Airship which blew up in flames) during a time of growing industrialization 1930s. Next Scene is from the communist elite in eastern Germany who was indulging in party and Champaign while ordinary people were poor and the main idea of communism should be equality of the people. Then the scene in the middle ages - where the monks (representing the church) feast on Germania (the land) and suppress the common folk (underneath the table). The scene in the prison again refers to the roaring twenties, as Germania is dressed in a Prussian uniform suppressing the German people. Additionally money is thrown away by everybody, a reference to the big inflation in Germany after WWI. Then the rockets (Nazi German was working on the first warfare rockets called V1 and V2 (V standing for “Vergeltung” which translates to retaliation - fitting to the picture with the rockets, the lyrics are an alliteration on “über” a german pre-syllable/prefix meaning over. “Überheblich (overbearing / presumptuous), Überlegen (superior) Übernehmen (taking over), Übergeben (handing over), überraschen (surprise), Überfallen (ambush), „Deutschland, Deutschland über allen“ (Germany, Germany above everyONE). The line „Deutschland, Deutschland über alleN“ (Germany above everyONE) is a reference to one of the verses of former national anthem of Germany which was in use from 1922 to 1945 and got excluded after WW2 for being too nationalistic. In this verse there was a line “Deutschland, Deutschland über alleS“ (a subtle difference to the line in Rammstein’s version translating to “Germany, Germany above everyTHING”). The actual verse with this line was already written in 1842, long before the formation of Germany as a Nation (which only happened in 1871) - therefore “Germany, Germany above everything” was relating to the importance of uniting the several German ministates, kingdoms and Duchies into one nation. After WWI this verse got taken into the national anthem of Germany as it spoke to the patriotism of the German people but later officially excluded fomr the anthem since it was deemed too nationalistic. Today this verse/line is generally frowned upon and would be associated with Neo-Nationalism. Using this line in the scene with the concentration camps including the subtle change from “Germany above everyTHING” (which has already the nationalistic connotation) to “Germany above everyONE” which carries an even more nationalistic / racist meaning is a very clever double-reference to the doctrine of racial supremacy in the Third Reich. The Concentration camp prisoners have symbols sewn on their jackets for the groups the Nazis hunted and killed (yellow star for Jews, Pink triangle for Homosexuals, red symbol for political adversaries (communists). Germania is on the side of the Nazis and has an eyepatch (representing the blind eye that many Germans turned on the atrocities of the Nazi regime. The Scene where Till is dressed as a woman refers to the left wing terrorist group called “Rote Armee Fraktion” - a terrorist association in the 1970s responsible for several political assassinations and murders as well as a famous kidnapping of German Diplomats in Stockholm. Then there is the scene with the stake at which books are burned by the Nazis and people are burned by the church (inquisition). Later the monk (church) and the Nazi soldier hug (as the church did not go against the Nazis when they came to power and both organizations were responsible for a lot of intolerance and suffering in their times. The scene where Germania is dressed in white with a Halo I think refers to the positive, the strength of the German people who recovered time after time from several catastrophic disasters in their history. Later she gives birth to puppies representing the German people. The puppies are from a rare breed of dogs (Leonbergers) who’s population got almost extinct in both world wars (symbolized with the dogs wearing gas masks) but recovered after the wars. In these scenes the band members wear space suits - in my view a reference to the (hopefully) better future of the German people. In the very last scene of the outro you can once more see Germania with national colors (black, red gold) with black lipstick, red eyes and golden armor before a red/ black background holding an eagle, the heraldic symbol of Germany. Finally, please find below the lyrics of the song as the perfectly convey the message of the problematic relationship many Germans have to their homeland, wanting to be proud of it but not being able to due to it’s difficult history: One further remark to one of the more important lines of the lyrics: The line in this song "So jung und doch so alt" (So young and yet so old) refers to the fact that the German people with their idenitify have been around for thousands of years, however the actual state of Germany as a nation was only founded very late (1871) thorough the unification of several mini states (Prussia, Hessia, Saxonia, Bavaria, etc.)

  • @salvadormaciaspulido641
    @salvadormaciaspulido64111 ай бұрын

    That was German history in ohne Song.

  • @Watthexe0815
    @Watthexe08152 жыл бұрын

    The piano part is the song Sonne. Please do it from Berlin 2019.

  • @reinerfunden3205
    @reinerfunden32052 жыл бұрын

    Youre first one was literally perfect: "Rammshtine"

  • @haitolawrence5986
    @haitolawrence59862 жыл бұрын

    Lining up to be a hot lunch. Good luck.

  • @CavHDeu
    @CavHDeu2 жыл бұрын

    Nice you got some of those very little details they placed. But one thing i have to criticize: it's Wednesday not Thursday 😁

  • @CavHDeu

    @CavHDeu

    2 жыл бұрын

    To understand the video of the song 'Haifisch' you need to know the videos of 'Du hast', 'Sonne', 'Amerika', 'Keine Lust' & 'Ohne Dich'.

  • @digitalmouse3314
    @digitalmouse33142 жыл бұрын

    Old germany is amazing proud of out pre roman history in germany is very honorable after ugh.

  • @dirkspatz3692
    @dirkspatz36922 жыл бұрын

    The red robe men when the puppies are born could be a representation of the constitutional court (they wear red robes) who examines the Puppies and help to give them bird. Maybe a reference that the puppies represents the new Germanies after WW2 (rebirth of the nation) this time under "observation" of judges and the new constitution(s).

  • @madrabbitmax
    @madrabbitmax2 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, check out the group from Russia, Amatory - knife (Amatory knife), Gray - Tread of winter (Gray - Tread of winter).

  • @helenhoward5346
    @helenhoward53462 жыл бұрын

    How the hell did he notice a u-boat in the space station. I have seen this video many times and never caught that. I dunno. Maybe I'm confusion.

  • @Metalphysicalpodcast
    @Metalphysicalpodcast2 жыл бұрын

    Best concert you will ever see.

  • @herm7566
    @herm7566 Жыл бұрын

    Ich mußte das Video mehrere male ansehen um einiges zu verstehen und ich bin Deutscher.

  • @Christopher50now
    @Christopher50now2 жыл бұрын

    It’s named after the Air Force bass RammStein.

  • @KimForsberg
    @KimForsberg2 жыл бұрын

    No matter what country you are from, there's likely a lot of bad it has done through history. That is just simply a part you can't shy away from. It's such a critical part of the understanding of the whole, including all the good, and especially the progress you've made as a nation to better yourselves. Without that basic understanding, you are denying yourself and your nation a way to grow into the future.

  • @Turbo-ic8lw
    @Turbo-ic8lw2 жыл бұрын

    I really think you understand the symbolics in this video. But I am courious: 1) Will you watch the piano outro or do you destroy the art? 2) Or do you watch the version with English captions

  • @zanderalex2463

    @zanderalex2463

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are versions with English subtitles in ugly cheesy writing. This also destroys the art of the video. It's best to watch it in the original long version without subtitles. If it must be with subtitles, then please the version in completely neutral small font, where the chorus is not written in large letters, like a poorly made PowerPoint presentation.

  • @Turbo-ic8lw

    @Turbo-ic8lw

    2 жыл бұрын

    So now I was able to see it. You kept the art You recognized a lot I am proud of you.

  • @estherbartholdy
    @estherbartholdy2 жыл бұрын

    I am german (but live in Guatemala) and I really don't like Rammstein, but this video is great. Nice reaction too. Iputalike!😁

  • @annaricci4686
    @annaricci46862 жыл бұрын

    Rammstein 🔝❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @markengelson9051
    @markengelson90512 жыл бұрын

    Had me wondering about kids growing up in Germany and who they view as their country's heroes or what they are learning in history class.

  • @wolfgangengel4835

    @wolfgangengel4835

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is not much heroism teached in german schools. And no patriotism. Way different than in the US or other countries. Basicly we learn a lot about the evil figures in german history, like Hitler or Erich Honecker (leader of former east germany). So they teach us how shameful our history was in parts, and that it never should repeat itself. They even visit former concentration camps with classes and tell the kids in all details what happened there. And some feel very sick or sad after that experience. On the other hand there are a few people that are seen as "heroes" or sort of. Like Charles the great "769-814". Or Konrad Adenauer our first democratic chancellor after WWII. Also Otto van Bismarck (1815-1898), who introduced a lot of social reforms like social security or health care. Or even Arminius in ancient times, who is often called the first german. He lead the germans into war with the romans, 2000 years ago. And then there are some great german inventors, engineers and scientists. But of course not those who served the nazis. At the end of the day we even discuss the negative aspects of those heroes. We germans learned to be critical about everything. So heroism is actually something we never really completely fall for. Even Stauffenberg (played by Tom Cruise in a movie) who planned to assassinate hitler and failed with it, is seen critically, because at the end of the day he was also a Nazi with the same awful ideologies. He just disagreed with Hitlers strategies in some points. You don't see that in russia, where they still have Lenin and Stalin statues. Or in the US, where they have a lot of false heroism, or don't discuss that even people like Lincoln had bad aspects. At least that is the picture we get here. Maybe even there is generational change. He wanted to reunite the north and the south, but it's a myth that he cared a lot about slaves. He was rooted in the same racial prejudices like most people of these times. Germans bring all of that to the table, without mercy. 😄

  • @gamingvalue372

    @gamingvalue372

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey i grew up during the 80/90 in Germany. In School WW2 was still a difficult Topic we didnt Talk much about it at least in my School. As i grew up it was also difficult because of our Past we always got called Nazis just because we where German by foreign people that live in Germany sometimes we even got spit on by them while we walkt on the Street. There is not really a Hero for me since like in the Video there is so much bad in the past especially the last 100 Years. To this day there is not much Patriotism in me and a lot of Friends and people i know its mostly shame because of what our Grand Grandparents did. And even if we want to be Patriots you need to be very careful because if not you get called a Nazi. Thats also a reason why you want see many German Flags hanging somewhere except its World Cup Time. Greetz from Germany

  • @topangamariewolfe
    @topangamariewolfe2 жыл бұрын

    @OLDSKULENERD you need to react to violet Orlandi's cover of Nickelback how you remind me if evanescence sang it. She put it up this past Sunday and I have been waiting for your reaction lol I love your reactions to her stuff! I love your shirt(have the same one lol) and I love your channel!

  • @jorgmehring2660
    @jorgmehring2660 Жыл бұрын

    In Germany we had Soviet / Russian troops until 1994.

  • @tigeriussvarne177
    @tigeriussvarne1772 жыл бұрын

    Wow! I think this is the best reaction to this song that I've ever seen, Kudos to you guys! Slava Ukraini!

  • @TheOtherPetard

    @TheOtherPetard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Героям слава! (it's hard not to reply)

  • @haitolawrence5986

    @haitolawrence5986

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nazi.

  • @D-ragon-S
    @D-ragon-S2 жыл бұрын

    Fuck, your SOOOO fast in analysing. VERY IMPRESSIVE !!! And eyes like a spider that can see and absorb the whole screen and what's happening. Much Love and respect 💙💛💙

  • @huba3885
    @huba38852 жыл бұрын

    RAMMSTEIN >. . .

  • @thedoctor5268
    @thedoctor52682 жыл бұрын

    Till when he has long hair I think is the Bader Meinhof gang from the 1970s

  • @huba3885
    @huba38852 жыл бұрын

    in ze first scene we can see Germania as she cuts off ze head of a roman intruder ... this symbolizes ze birth of ze german Identity ... it refers to Hermann/Arminius ... a german general in ze roman Army who betrayed ze romans and stood with his Brothers in Blood in order to fight off the roman invaders ... in ze so called "Battle of the Teutoburg Forest" ... to this day germany helds up a huge statue of him holding up a sword ... Arminius is like the one thing every german can agree on

  • @eco999
    @eco999 Жыл бұрын

    From all the symbolism and such I am missing the falling of the Berlin wall that divided east and west Germany. Is it there somewhre?

  • @Finkele1
    @Finkele12 жыл бұрын

    Every country has history. Maybe worst thing is not to know it rather than remembering the recent things. If so I think UK would be the worst...depending on scale. Spanish were pretty bad and portugal was too...so were dutch. USA recently, Russia...this could go on and on but come terms of your own history is good thing. Not to repeat it...

  • @olexandrtyazhlov9301
    @olexandrtyazhlov9301 Жыл бұрын

    Классный обзор оформил подписку. Моя благодарность за поддержку 🇺🇦👍

  • @paulfranklin4276
    @paulfranklin4276 Жыл бұрын

    You were so innocent Alas

  • @Sascha_Germany
    @Sascha_Germany2 жыл бұрын

    We have no problem wh2n we wre confronted with the past . Its nothing to deny and it shows that a whole nation can follow a stupid leader by telling lies and simple propaganda. People should live with the past to avoid thst shit again. We can watch ww2 docus the whole day. Great reaction

  • @ARM_THEAS
    @ARM_THEAS Жыл бұрын

    The space scene is obviously a reference to nazis on the moon

  • @MaTu-kt9qn
    @MaTu-kt9qn2 жыл бұрын

    This Song in a Leopard 2 Tank near Russia..give em Hell!!!🇩🇪👍

  • @Shadowsmurte01
    @Shadowsmurte012 жыл бұрын

    i think they all survived in Auslander

  • @mathiastemmen5265
    @mathiastemmen52652 жыл бұрын

    By the way: that lady impersonated Germania.

  • @kozgoodgaming7177
    @kozgoodgaming71772 жыл бұрын

    До этого всем было все Почему ., почему что. При все

  • @saika4043
    @saika40432 жыл бұрын

    GUYS, WHY NO SUBTITLE. pretty sure you wouldve undersatood it much better with subtitles

  • @walther89
    @walther89 Жыл бұрын

    its like Links- 2 3 4, hates and not hating. Poetic and carefully chosen words, videos are just for fans to just think what they want, jump on the Lügen it say all.

  • @erikahollomon5208
    @erikahollomon52082 жыл бұрын

    React to Moon Child by Iron Maiden, sounds exactly like this song!!!

  • @luiscaldeira4758
    @luiscaldeira47582 жыл бұрын

    Yes Germany have an .....

  • @dallesamllhals9161

    @dallesamllhals9161

    Жыл бұрын

    Name a country(older or younger) that do NOT?

  • @0Super0Manuel0
    @0Super0Manuel02 жыл бұрын

    Just wanna mention. No not Gaul. Gauls were around France and Switzerland. It is a far more different people then the Germanic people. In a lot of ways Gauls are far closer to the Romans then they were to the Germanic.

  • @Zeylo89
    @Zeylo892 жыл бұрын

    i think its cool you adapted the ukraine flag for solidarity into your logo atm

  • @Sizzlik
    @Sizzlik2 жыл бұрын

    Question for native engish speakers, as it seem everybody got a problem how to pronounce the name. Wich words contain "ei" and you pronounce it just as "i"? Its not Rammstien. For example the word "height", you dont pronounce it "hieght". No offence, im just wondering..neither "ei" nor "ai" are pronounced just "i"

  • @vendettaakabecky610
    @vendettaakabecky610 Жыл бұрын

    The black women represents Germania means she knows and saw everything bad and good what was going on in Germany Historycly! She actualy stands for Germany! The Outrosong the Piano Version "Hier kommt die Sonne" translated "Here comes the Sun". It´s like lighten up Watchers understanding and Heart after watching and listening to the Song "Deutschland" which is very dark they wanna show everybody like "look , this is our history and we know it and except it and the most German´s are in the Spot of the Sunlight except some lost wanna be Nazis!

  • @wolfgangengel4835
    @wolfgangengel48352 жыл бұрын

    Rum Shtine

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