Until the prices come down 50% , I'm going to keep my 2015 running until the wheels come off. The manufacturers are living in BS land

@saltoftheearth60

2 ай бұрын

With you on that one ,on the money

@peteadolay5299

2 ай бұрын

Exactly - I keep hearing over and over - great deals - 4k to 6k off? It’s a joke. Pricing is an essential and critical component of marketing any product. What were these manufacturers thinking when they adjusted their pricing sky high?! It’s pathetic

@paulharsh78

2 ай бұрын

Agree keeping my 2014 Tundra. Every time I put $1000 into it. I remember that would be the monthly payment, every month for 6-8yrs.

@stevestillplaysgames5732

2 ай бұрын

That is what happens when weak minded people who get the taste of the millionaire and billionaire life and the taste of money. Those greedy wealthy ass holes only care about lining their pockets with gold and i can not support the scumbag owned companies like dodge Chrysler jeep ram aka stilantis

@roddycreswell8613

2 ай бұрын

The reason is building new factories and retooling old ones for ev is expensive. Ev isn’t selling like the government said it would so they put mandates on car makers to make them anyway, their only recourse is to raise the prices of what is selling which in turn makes the vehicles people actually buy go up in price. bidens ev mandates and his war on so called fossil fuels are why our economy sucks. FJB.

47k for a compass? I wouldn't give them 27k for that thing. pathetic.

@johndoe122able

2 ай бұрын

It's an 18,995 car all day long maybe 20-25 for a fully loaded "nice" one but you're right it's ridiculous.

@MrGomjabber

2 ай бұрын

@@johndoe122able totally agree, I don't know who is keeping these jokers afloat at this point. No one should be buying anything from them at these prices.

@Geoff-vd6lu

2 ай бұрын

Compass is a turd on wheels!

@christopherc4814

2 ай бұрын

Your generous, I’m thinking 22K

@JA-zh5xi

2 ай бұрын

Given the horrible quality it’s an $18k car

Wow, 57K for that base model with a 6 cylinder! 😮 that truck should be 30K, max!

@ludeman

2 ай бұрын

26K max

@diegoharo7943

2 ай бұрын

Trucks were low to mid 30k but had less tech….they were a “lower trim”

@bobman717

Ай бұрын

And it's an old 6 cylinder, only available with their questionable e torque hybrid system, that gets out performed by the Ford and GM 4 cyl turbos.

@robertrichards4718

Ай бұрын

22k max.

@davidsteckley8846

Ай бұрын

@@bobman717I would never want a turbo motor from GM or Ford. The only turbo engines that are good and reliable is from Toyota, Nissan, and Honda. Go back to the inline 6 2JZ, capable of 1,000 hp on a stock block and crank.

Adding turbos to every vehicle dosent appeal to most people

@CJColvin

Ай бұрын

Exactly mate, infact it only kills reliability.

@lawrencethornbury8081

Ай бұрын

If the turbo quits, then what do you have?

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

@@lawrencethornbury8081 Bypass it somehow!!!

These "stealerships" that are infected with the sickness of greed have made me lose my desire to buy a new truck ever again. Shameful.

@jjpark1989

2 ай бұрын

I agree. My hate for them outweighs my want for a new truck.

@JT-ko3rv

Ай бұрын

Do you even have a clue how the process works. The MANUFACTURERS are in control of the pricing. Yes if there's high demand they can mark up other than that they make most of their money in the Finance department. MANUFACTURER sets the prices the dealerships have to BUY everything on their lot generally through a finance company. Everyday the vehicles are on the lot it costs the dealerships $. The manufacturers screw dealerships about every which way they can and come away looking like saints because they are not who the customers see. Fords PROFIT in 2023 over 25 and half Billion, Stellantis 18.6, Billion GM 19. 1 Billion, Toyota 61.7 Billion. Tell us again how it's the Stealerships 😆. So somehow they will stay in business selling products for less than they HAVE to buy them. Sounds like a hell of a business model 👍. Maybe customers should demand the manufacturers build cheaper vehicles but they want all their gadgets that cost $ 🤔

@ShawnHays

Ай бұрын

Yhe dealerships have NOTHING to do with stealing Most are selling below invoice which is what the paid from the manufacturer Blame it on the manufacturers NOT the dealerships

@daMillenialTrucker

Ай бұрын

Yeah yeah, you'll buy another one 3 years from now at sticker price 😂

The Mercedes dealer near me has a new GLA SUV with an MSRP of $43,000 and a second one with an MSRP of $44,000. Who on earth would pay $47,000 for a Jeep Compass when you can get a new Mercedes SUV for less money? The attempt by Stellantis to go upmarket and reposition RAM and Jeep as luxury brands has been a complete failure.

@cornelcharles9872

2 ай бұрын

100%

@hgonz14

2 ай бұрын

Stellantis are the same idiots who are trying to sell Wagoneers at over $100k as if they were in the same league as Lexus and Acura.

@RAS4915

2 ай бұрын

Good luck finding one of those low end MB's at that price. They generally have another 25k in upgrades. I agree with you that the Compass is overpriced and the Renegade is a bigger joke. That's why they aren't selling very well. People buying the cheepo MB products do it for the curb appeal. When they hit 80k the repair bills will bankrupt them

@ozzierabbit587

2 ай бұрын

A Jeep Compass for $47k? Wah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!

@UTBanjo

2 ай бұрын

The compass will need more repairs, but you don't have to pay a $500 surcharge just for passing the dealership like with a Benzo.

RIP STELLANTIS

@cantwealljustgetalong2

Ай бұрын

stellantis will be fine, huge company that does a lot of different things. they bought chrysler cause they were bored, if it fails it wont affect them

The prices are ridiculous and ignore the economic realities of the country.

Nobody can afford a new truck when they cost as much as a house

@rayrussell6258

Ай бұрын

My house cost $19K.

@user-si4ic4fd2c

Ай бұрын

100k for a house? Where? Try 5 times that around here

@dyer2cycle

Ай бұрын

@@user-si4ic4fd2c Yes, houses(and rent for that matter) are as out of line in pricing as vehicles....

@lordxandalf

Ай бұрын

@@rayrussell6258geez my guy! When did you buy? 1920?

$100k+ for a vehicle. No, it’s time the consumers start to walk away.

@zeus014

14 күн бұрын

$100K is airplane money. Or cottage money. Or houseboat money. Or sailboat money. Or classic exotic sports car money. Or classic rare numbers-matching muscle car money. Or (in some rural areas) primary home money. FCA is cordially invited to go f*** themselves.

Turbo charged and supercharged trucks are money maintenance pits.

@doctordetroit4339

2 ай бұрын

Yup....

@CJColvin

Ай бұрын

Exactly mate, No V8 means no thanks for this Redneck, I'll stick with my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it.

@joshsteward1488

Ай бұрын

That's why ford's are always in the shop, that's why I wish they would still offer the hemi

@joshuaarmand5236

Ай бұрын

Steaming pile of 💩

@everss02

Ай бұрын

they need trucks to not last, to sell more

I particularly do not want to play these dealership games where they try to rip me off and steal my hard earned money so i stay away

@christopherc4814

2 ай бұрын

I’m so fed up with dealers I’m scared to buy anything, you know you’re gonna get ripped off.

@dyer2cycle

Ай бұрын

Used to be, you couldn't go look at vehicles at a dealership without 2 or 3 sales guys making a bee-line for you with a sales pitch even before you got out to look...I don't know if they still do that or not, it's been a very long time since i looked on a new car lot...not only because of pricing, but also, it just got to where I didn't care for anything they had to offer anymore, none of them suited my needs/likes anymore, and the styling...it has made me re-think whether the styling on a 1961 Plymouth was really that ugly...far better than 90% of what you see on a lot now....

Market forces demand 40% at the least discount, if you want to move your Lot Rot!

@rayrussell6258

Ай бұрын

50% ---- at least.

@dyer2cycle

Ай бұрын

@@rayrussell6258 They'll never sell them for that..I guarantee it... if they can't sell them, they will cry to the government, and the government will buy them..or, rather than mark them down 40%-50%, they will just scrap them or "part them out"to get rid of the glut and "re-create" demand...then, ask the government to help them out with the losses they incurred...Ford and GM will do that too....

Money doesn't go as far as it used to. Myself and a lot of other people don't want a luxury vehicle. We just need a simple, basic truck.

These truck prices should be between $40,000 to $60,000.

@thelonewolf666

2 ай бұрын

in australia they are over 200k

@nexusapp

2 ай бұрын

@@thelonewolf666 $200,000 is too much money for not a so much reliable truck.

@vernon44427

Ай бұрын

​@@thelonewolf666But you have bad ass utes that we can't get

People are asking for a basic truck, manual transmission, 4x4,rubber floor, single cab, hand wind up windows etc….only option I want is A/C because I’m in Texas.

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

It’s nice to have some simple trucks and for those wanting options, it’s nice to have some options. But prices accordingly

@tk7171

Ай бұрын

That’s a little too stripped down. A few features would be nice.

@Braggie69

Ай бұрын

Good luck finding a manual transmission in a pick up 2018 was the last year of a manual

@allanhood4397

22 күн бұрын

Nobody wants stripped trucks , we're fat , stupid, lazy and have 84 month loans for these cowboy trucks

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Ford Maverick, but they're small and all are automatic transmissions. I think they're 30K.

I remember when they moved from,V8’s to turbo engines in the 90’s. Not too many of those vehicles around, not like the non turbo V6’s. But paying a premium price and getting a smaller engine with a turbo, no thanks.

@CJColvin

Ай бұрын

Agreed 100% brother, no V8 means no thanks for this Redneck.

The Dodge dealer texted me numerous times in the last 4 months to trade in my jeep for a New truck. Offer up to 25% off. I told them I would need 50% off plus the use of my employee discount to even consider crunching the numbers.

@Kevin-mk6jo

2 ай бұрын

Let them sit on them. 50% off is the number that would get me to a dealer. I'll keep what I have...

@TATERNUTS1

2 ай бұрын

Same here brother

@mulletheadtv

2 ай бұрын

Exactly what i told them

@michelle-lz8tg

2 ай бұрын

@@Kevin-mk6jo you just watch...to increase sales a some kind of law(s) will be passed to make it hard to keep a vehicle on the road if it is x number of years old.

@BlackRam17

Ай бұрын

@@michelle-lz8tgJapan has this

No v8 no v8 prices

When in your wildest imagination did you ever think you would see a pickup for 117k. And the dealers talk to you like its chump change

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

That's too big of a truck for a small engine. Everybody is going to smaller engines with turbos. They can keep them.

@lawrencethornbury8081

Ай бұрын

The 5.0 Coyote in my F 150 will outlast the 3 and 4 cylinder crap.

I don't want to be seen driving that blacked-out, plastic filled excuse of a base truck, much less pay more than $50K for it. I'll keep driving the truck I currently have with 225K miles on it. You are absolutely right, all the automakers need to take a hard look at where they want to be 10-years from now, and that means they need to take 50% out of the MSRP or they might be out of business. There was no justification for keeping the 100% price increase they all took during covid and supply chain issues. They should never have agreed to the wage increases they gave in the recent contract. People couldn't afford what they were selling BEFORE that new contract. A full-size well-equipped truck ought to sell for $30K + tax, or else I won't buy it. AND NO TURBOS!!!!!

News alert Stellantis, A truck isn't supposed to be a challenger with a box. Keep your justification and stop telling the customer what THEY need. You are supposed to listen to the customer. Stellantis: Huh, what? Did you say something?

Bought a used f150 2017 4x4 supercrew cab for $16500 161k miles got 5 year extended warranty $374 a month. That I can afford.

Ford, Chevy and RAM: You want to move trucks? Slash prices by 50% and you'll have to increase your operating hours to handle the sales. But while you do this you'll need to tackle your dependability problem because all 3 of you have some major issues going on with quality.

@mr.monitor.

2 ай бұрын

They are already losing money at these prices.

@Barneyrubble241

2 ай бұрын

@@mr.monitor. No way they are losing money at these prices. Complete nonsense. If they are losing money at these prices, then they DESERVE to go out of business.

@mr.monitor.

2 ай бұрын

@@Barneyrubble241 When you talk EVs, Ford posted a 1.3 billion dollar loss in the first quarter 2024 and over 4 billion in 2023. Where is the massive profit coming from? 🤔 Acting like they could cut prices 20-50% is a pipe dream.

@mr.monitor.

2 ай бұрын

@@Barneyrubble241 Ignore the financial statements they put out if you want to, but what I said is far from nonsense.

Dam look at all of those 4xe Wranglers and not a single ICE Wrangler.

Quality on all these new 70+ trucks with little ass motors are going to be there downfall.

overpriced garbage. You're a tool if you spend this type of money.

@nimrodrebirth7703

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely right only reason these prices are this high because fools kept Buying when there wasn't a demand Idiots

I want less a lot less technology , I want 35 mpg Gasoline , I want the price between $20,000 to $35000 , I had to spell it out so the car company’s can’t get wrong .

It's part of the Green New deal. Pike up to the prices so much that the middle class can't afford it. And that way less cars on the road and better for the environment. Car business will still thrive through their ESG scores. But the consumers will lose.

@PumpkinKingXXIII

2 ай бұрын

Scary thing is all the new union labor cost haven’t even been rolled into these. Once all that get rolling they have to raise prices just like the fast food in California

@user-tb7rn1il3q

2 ай бұрын

Pickup trucks are pure profit. The increased wages are a drop in the bucket. Most of the labor is automated or in low cost countries.

I used to buy new every 3 years until about 10 years ago the prices began creeping up and the quality going down i could not justify purchasing another and am still waiting. I guess i will just have to keep fixing the older ones as the newer vehicles seem to have to much technology and i am not about to pay monthly subscription fees on top of car payments and insurance

Sport trucks are as daft as off-road Lamborghini

To be able to afford these $100K+ trucks you need to be working on Wall Street and making $300K+. A $100K truck is not an Investment Banker's vehicle.

@mouthbreather280

Ай бұрын

Well, people keep buying them…

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

With the high gas prices, we don't need high hp vehicles

Even when they lower the prices don't forget the high interest rates, keep in mind the taxes and reg for a new vehicle along with the insurance will go up! They just cost to much for what you're getting, not worth it!

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

Lots of dollars on top of use invoice prices

56k for basic work truck is hilarious! That's a 25-30k truck tops.😂

Funny, does anyone remember that the TRX ALSO launched at $70k? See how long that lasted? Lol Something else, all grills on rams have been plastic for at least 30 years, my '94 had a plastic grill, it was just nice and chrome, but still plastic 😉

I don't care about trucks but I'm here anyway. That's how you know you're doing a good job lol

Luv your channel….Thnx !!

"Luxury" off road, that's the problem right there😂

I remember my dad saying “ if I pay $40,000 for something, it better come with a mail box 😂 . I’m beginning to feel the same way about spending $100,000

@markholubetz

20 күн бұрын

Interesting comment. Smart man.

I love the ram. I’ve had all the big three but the only ones I’ve had minimal probs with were with the ram. The prob is that they jacked up the prices so much it’s non attainable. Crazy.

Most people don’t have enough disposable income to buy a $50,000 let alone $100,000 vehicle. These dealerships are crazy. These manufacturers are crazy. Everyone knows that the only people buying these things have enough disposable income or get themselves upside down and it gets repossessed anyways. I Have accepted that I will never buy a new car again. Good luck dealerships

I like the rams. Bought a big horn in 2019 for 42,000$ great truck. It was basic. But I don’t want leather seats. Just a work truck to tow and grab materials. The tradesman box is 5.7. Making it useless. With the 6.4 box. I can legally grab 12 foot materials with the tail gate down.

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Now it'd be 90K. Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

I grew up in the days when all you could buy was regular cabs with an 8 foot bed. Manual windows, door locks, manual transmissions for the most part, and am/fm radios. High end meant you had AC and cruise control with a V8 engine. To the old schoolers, a truck like this is worth about $25-$30K... These people that are going out and buying these $60-$120k trucks ruined the market for everyone else, for people that just want a daily driver that you can put to work when you need to. Not put 10 lifts on them, squat the rear ends, and put underbody LED lighting on them because it's "cool".

I bought a new ‘23 Ram Big Horn Hemi Equip Gr-1 on 3-22-24 with a MSRP of $61k for $49,329 OTD. 26% below msrp, I visited 4 dealers in Indiana and Michigan. Bought near Kalamazoo MI. I did use the 1st Responder and Employee Choice incentive from my cousin who works on the Jeep line in Toledo. I’ve been looking since September of 23 and watching Mark, Brandon and the Car Edge channel was helpful.

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, I really appreciate your feedback.

I think the people that can afford a truck has bought them. The next few years are going to be painful for car business

yeah, well when people stop buying them for over priced... they will have no choice but to reduce the prices by a lot... most people complain then buy anyway.

In a Biden Economy who can afford a 6 figure pickup truck?

@user-tb7rn1il3q

2 ай бұрын

This is in Canada, Trudeau is way worse.

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

People that make 6 figures a year?

@pacificdragon1

17 күн бұрын

@@metalmike570 Most people who make 6 figures a year are not buying trucks. They are usually buying high end vehicles like Teslas, BMW, Porches, Mercedes, etc. That explains why Full Size Trucks are sitting on Dealer lots.

@metalmike570

16 күн бұрын

@@pacificdragon1 Agreed!!

It will do nothing to bring people in……..people have been so soured by what’s gone on, getting them back will be very difficult at best…….

Im currently looking at dumping 20 grand into my 2015 gmc 2500 (used as a tool and gets beat on) and buying an import suv for daily driving. That will be 40000 i dont have to spend and have 2 reliable rides.

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

40K is a lot of money too.

These jacked up prices on gas vehicles are meant to cover for the losses manufacturers are being forced to deals with on their EVs, which are continuing to lose $$$.

47k for that tiny thing LOL that’s a 25k vehicle 🤦‍♂️

@markholubetz

Ай бұрын

Cheap unit that is overpriced

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

No, they lost their fan base when they killed off the hemi(s). Trying to force overworked 6s and 4 bangers along with extra computer junk was the downfall. No reviewer can see nor will they mention the buffalo in the ballroom.

CRAPSTELLANTIS isnt luxury.... maybe in a different universe... but in mine, hard negative.

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

I was about to go from dodge to toyota. Then came the 4 cylinders. Sadly im still a dodge man still. 😂

@vulcanman64

2 ай бұрын

Dodge hasn’t made a truck since 2009.

Ram, Ford and GM have all priced me out of the market, I just bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma last year out the door after trade it was $14,000 dollars and I paid it off in 6 months so I own it free and clear. Until prices come down to reasonable levels like starting at $25,000 dollars for entry level I am out of the market for Ram, Ford and GM.

when a $75k Ram is marked down to $47k I will buy ... I have a '21 Wrangler that I bought right before things got crazy ... got it under msrp out the door including all fees and taxes ... I own it free and clear and I'd like to get out of it for a new truck but I just refuse to do it for the price of these trucks.

Sounds like the same people that wrote the Hornet sales pamphlets.

I’m so. Tired of the smaller engines, I want at least a 350 8 cylinder, looks like all my future vehicles will be 1990 model year and older. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@CJColvin

Ай бұрын

Agreed 100% no V8 means no thanks for this Redneck.

What a mess!

Exceeds everyone paycheck

I bought a hatchback in 2008 for 13k no taxes out the door. Ive made peace ill never own a new vehicle ever again in my life. Born in 1986 this is a very sad fact for me unless things seriously change.

Here is the problem. If you go too far down the performance pathway, it is no longer a truck but a form of race car. Which is fine if that is all you want, but why even call it a truck at that point. The biggest problem they will run into is that the solid H frame of a truck has it's horse power limit. Eventually you will have to move to a tube frame cage to accommodate the ever increasing suspension complexity and intake plus exhaust systems. A race vehicle is built from the cage up, not from the engine out. That will be the limit and then who are you really targeting? Dodges biggest problem is that they are shoving all this horse power into trucks that cannot handle it. Yes you can move the wheel hubs out a bit and put larger shocks on, but that will only soak so much HP and lower its usefulness as an actual truck. You also have the limits of the transmission. These things are designed to take only so much torque before they have to be completely overhauled to no blow up from all the power. Dodge isn't doing that, no one is doing that. They are just slapping bigger and bigger numbers on the engine while hoping the rest of the truck stays together.

Everyone knows wait until discounts then buy. Love my hemi sounds like victory…

Chrysler is pricing themselves out of the market, I was at the dealership getting my 2020 truck service and checked out the showroom and saw a jeep vehicle with a 88,000 dollar sticker price and wondered who would pay that much for such a vehicle

They will NEVER lower prices to consumers in a meaningful way. NEVER

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

You are likely correct, incremental drops in pricing. Think ratcheting effect.

They'd have to do closer to 50%, Not a couple thousand dollars.

I picked up a Ram 1500 for 42 000 here in Canada during covid first year into it. It was ordered in by another customer who cancelled. Base truck in 2019.

I wouldn’t buy anything that said Warlock on it period!

@1969bones69

2 ай бұрын

I don't know about that. Doro Pesch back in her younger days was the desire of many a man. Warlock says All we are... we are, all we need.

I gave up on Rams when they went from the column shifter to the dial shifter. Something just feels so untrucklike without that steering column gear shift

The guys on CarEdge the other night was saying in the past 5 yr Ram MSRP has have up 50%.. that is super high.. the other are like 20-25%.. If you want to buy a new truck from Ram you have a price that is 25-30% off MSRP and make that the Out The Door price.. "not a penny more ,, not a penny less,, unless you get it for less. ""

If they are sitting on the lot for longer it doesn't mean people are not buying. It sounds like they get sold eventually as the right sucker comes along.

what is the recall on the Etork?

2025? Broke.

No way… im not spending more than $50k for a truck. Not happening.

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

That’s a lot of cash indeed

Ram needs to be selling at a 30% discount compared to Toyota to compensate for their pathetic quality.

@metalmike570

17 күн бұрын

Stellantis is a scumbag company. Scotty Kilmer 2023

chicken tax was initiated by foreign countries first, the US hit back and trucks along with some other things were in the reaction. i have relatives in Germany, they are farmers, for them the chickens are generally worth more alive for eggs than for meat. to keep it simple, when whole chickens are like at $23 and all of a sudden they appear at $5-7 the EU/UK farmers reacted, and protection tariffs/taxes were imposed. of course the US over reacted, by adding all trucks from EU-UK, but added Asian countries too.

@N20Joe

2 ай бұрын

The chicken tax is absolutely killing affordability for Americans

@Ledman301

2 ай бұрын

Who knew the chicken tax was the problem.🤷🏼‍♂️

For a V4…..more than 40k is a ripoff

Your video is right on!!!

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

Thank you

Are these price cuts on 2024 models or 2025 models the article doesn’t specify and the msrp for the 2025 models has not come down.

Unless a truck looks like it isn’t street legal, it probably isn’t really an off road truck. And where are these people driving “off road”? 😂

@BillLaBrie

2 ай бұрын

The Costco parking lot is, in a sense, “off road.” So there’s that.

My 2019 Big Horn blackout has 122k miles and going strong. I like no payments.

Mark needs to talk about the CumminsTD. I absolutely live Dodge Trucks. My first Truck was a Dakota with the Magnum V6 - 5 speed.

just bought my 2020 Ram which was a lease I have owned 5 since 2011, this one I purchased was the silver night edition 5.7. I have tried the 4.9 v8 the 6cyl before and the 5.7 hemi is the best truck they have and 2024 or earlier version in my opinion will do better than these turbo ( easily breakable) motors are cool and quite fast but not as cost effective when you have to replace that part.

In 2020 I paid 44,400 for my level 2 crew cab rebel. It sticker for 55,000. I love the truck and I feel like I got a good deal. I’ll keep my hemi.

I'm glad I nabbed my 2017 Ram 1500 for the price I did, gonna drive it until the thing literally breaks in half.

@markholubetz

Ай бұрын

For sure run it as long as you can or at least until prices becomes little more reasonable

Those crazy prices are before you have to play the "gotcha" game where they add fees and club prices for things like Nitrogen in the tires, etc.

are these in USD or CAD?

I’m looking for an $18500 triuck that’s stripped but runs well. Crank windows, 6 cyl, manual, no air, radio delete option.

i have not watched past videos on pricing of new autos and the current prices. not sure if there was discussion on what affected this sudden jump? - the Cov pandemic, and supposed chip shortage was played to it's fullest extent. trucks could be made, GMC/Chevy got MPG exemption/permission to use older no chip/computer fuel systems, the other manufacturers did not. these trucks were actually cheaper - economic impact /stimulus checks, people bored and spending - banks were told to give loans to boost economy, they sorta got into same situation like the real estate boom crash where they covered loans plus market price adjustments (speculation) - PPP was over generously given out in the US, businesses popped up out of no where, many businesses added all their family members as employees, alot of fraud, there were buyers who miraculously bought cars cash. this created a boom for new and used cars. once manufactures saw what the market can pay, this established a new base. when cars/trucks started rolling it continued. buyers and loans still paying these prices in 2022 and start of 2023. once the manufacturers and dealers have experienced this new base, they are reluctant to cave if they do it will be a small percent in comparison the current price. gasoline is the simplest example, when it is $3 a gallon, then jumps to $7, the lowest after that will be $5 and immediately creeps back to $7 in a very short time.

I bought basically the same $56k truck in 2013 for $36k I'm still driving it ..i just looked at a 2023 bronco with S11k in extras plus $2k mark up ..they wont budge off the price and I couldn't even take it on a short test drive ..

@theprodegypk

2 ай бұрын

You can get a bronco for invoice at least for the raptor trim

I want to get a 2500 Cummins but realistically I cant see myself getting one till prices come down at least 20%

Hello, RAM CEO! We're not looking/interested in technology!!! There's wayyyy too much technology in modern trucks as it is, and it = expensive repairs! How about something that is inexpensive, simple, easy to work on, yet powerful enough to tow with? No variable displacement BS! No 6 cylinder engines. Simple. Easy to work on. Got it?????

With Ram reliability and durability, they should pay you to take one off the lot. These POSs are the poster child for ridiculously overpriced garbage. Once your warranty lapses, your mechanic will be on your Christmas card list. No thanks!

People were already sounding the alarm on truck MSRP prices 5 years ago. I’m glad consumers are finally revolting. Prices need to freeze or drop for a few years for incomes to catch up.

Is this in Canada? Here in Georgia that tradesmen average is $34k

Doesn't hurt that you can purchase a couple year old Ram truck with a V8 and around 30k miles for under $40k. Not only have Rams gotten very expensive, they depreciate a lot faster than the other companies as well.

@markholubetz

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. The value proposition is quite weak

@SegoMan

Ай бұрын

I can sell my 05 5.9 3500 for more than I paid for it..

These prices need to come down to pre 2008 levels which would lower the prices around 70% roughly. You’ve got to remember the UAW retirement bailout was already cooked into the price before all these current price hikes. They should have long since sold enough vehicles to cover that cost. There deal seems to be if they keep the price hikes in place the consumers will eventually adjust to it. The problem with that thinking is they’ve literally priced them to the point we; the consumers, have completely quit looking. I know someone that bought a 3/4 ton pickup recently that could easily afford what they cost before 2020. They knew they couldn’t afford it but just decided to do it anyway. Three months after the purchase they took it back and told the dealer that couldn’t afford it.

It was a stupid idea to kill the V8. It's what made the Ram the Ram... I'll keep my 07 and 14. There's no reason to trade down.

@CJColvin

Ай бұрын

Amen Brother

@GoodAfterNoon

Ай бұрын

Towing with a supercharged 3.0 sounds like a recipe for disaster