Rally's Most Successful Manufacturer | Full Story

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

Lancia is the most decorated manufacturer in WRC history, this is the story of how they got there.
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  • @automobilistic
    @automobilistic7 ай бұрын

    Full Story is an automobilistic series with each video containing all previous videos on a single topic, compiled into a single marathon video. There is only small amounts of new content so no, its not deja vu, you may well have seen some of it before. I hope you enjoy nonetheless!

  • @stevenkelby2169

    @stevenkelby2169

    7 ай бұрын

    Don't change a thing! You're hilarious and creative. Thank you for these gifts!

  • @gerwinterharmsel3626

    @gerwinterharmsel3626

    7 ай бұрын

    As much as i like the shorter ones, i do like the longer and comprehensive video's. In short: i'll watch everything you post. Love the content. Keep it up. 👍🏻

  • @Splarkszter

    @Splarkszter

    7 ай бұрын

    Love your work!

  • @mioszantas4462
    @mioszantas44627 ай бұрын

    Lancia got quite a legacy with them, it's a shame they haven't mad any "fun" cars in a while now

  • @theant9821

    @theant9821

    7 ай бұрын

    Lancia was the then struggling Fiat groups sacrificial lamb, in order to justify saving Alfa Romeo, which inherited much of Lancias best bits, like the motorsport team etc. Who were merged into Alfa Romeos own motorsport department and created the 155 dtm. The Lancia name may only be an echo of the past but some of its spirit carried over into Alfa Romeo atleast.

  • @asdqwe_9381

    @asdqwe_9381

    5 ай бұрын

    they havent even made any cars

  • @sebastianahrens2385
    @sebastianahrens23857 ай бұрын

    It's so sad to see Lancia nowadays, just a shell of their former self. Many manufacturers have left their mark on Rally, but to me, Lancia stands above them all.

  • @perfectman3077

    @perfectman3077

    7 ай бұрын

    Above Subaru?!?

  • @Metallurge

    @Metallurge

    7 ай бұрын

    @@perfectman3077what Subaru did in the 90s and 2000s, Lancia paved the way for in the 70s and 80s, group B most notably.

  • @perfectman3077

    @perfectman3077

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Metallurge The Impreza is so amazing though. The Delta is a bit boring in comparison.

  • @caledonianrailway1233

    @caledonianrailway1233

    7 ай бұрын

    @@perfectman3077yes

  • @sebastianahrens2385

    @sebastianahrens2385

    7 ай бұрын

    @@perfectman3077 The Impreza is a great car for sure, and a Rally icon, but the Delta would go on to dominate the sport like no other car before or since. And then there's the magnificent 037, the only rear wheel driven car to ever win a championship against a field of four wheel drives. An achievement to which the Rally God Walter Röhrl himself would make a significant contribution. He later stated that the car felt as fitting as a shoe, and that if he thought about driving a section, the car had already done it. I can hardly imagine a higher praise.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh75447 ай бұрын

    I was 14 when Henkka and Sergio died. We had so manty great pilots, Alen, Vatanen, Kankkunen, Mikkola, Salonen.... but Henri was my hero. I saw group b cars live when I was a kid

  • @robertrishel3685
    @robertrishel36856 ай бұрын

    Oh man, that 037, just 😍😍😍 to me it’s the perfect car in every way.

  • @gapistan2335
    @gapistan23357 ай бұрын

    What a legendary manufacturer the gran tour segment of the 037 by Clarkson is always something I got back to an amazing story

  • @user-mx5gr1yd6u

    @user-mx5gr1yd6u

    5 ай бұрын

    Whodoyoudo

  • @Nightmaretyrant
    @Nightmaretyrant7 ай бұрын

    The most impressive thing about Lancia and the Alfa DTM team was Sergio Limone admitting they had only a fraction of the budget their competitors had, also tons of the " smaller race parts " were just road car bits taken from the Fiat line up because development had to be reserved for big stuff.

  • @edh7492
    @edh74927 ай бұрын

    Your choice of subject matter for your videos shows a certain level of culture that few people of your age have. Top work my good man 👌

  • @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT

    @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT

    7 ай бұрын

    Oh shut up boomer.

  • @demonmonsterdave

    @demonmonsterdave

    7 ай бұрын

    What an epic insult.

  • @josesammut9396

    @josesammut9396

    3 ай бұрын

    you old fucks don't even know how to work the computer

  • @louiandrews7
    @louiandrews77 ай бұрын

    20:44 always hits hard it's shows that this was a statement of people going to far to be the best not matter what it means for safety

  • @TamTran-vw7zm
    @TamTran-vw7zm7 ай бұрын

    I was on s rallye team of Datsun 510s, at Press On Regardless, when the 1st, marlboro liveried stratos showed up. Next to out chest high cars the knee high Stratos looked like a spaceship! That year they had just won the Ridieu Lakes Canadian rallye, but something electrical let them down in Michigan. Still, I was in love--and have loved all things Lancia ever since. Thank you for this.

  • @hugoagogo9435
    @hugoagogo94357 ай бұрын

    I was a huge lancia fan from 87. Lancia rally and Ferrari f1. Still supporting Ferrari for my sins and desperately want to see Lancia back where they belong.

  • @alexshank1414
    @alexshank14147 ай бұрын

    I think the Peugeot 205 T16 was showing it’s championship winning potential, with a small commercial hatchback car(homologation) plus a powerful mid engine layout & 4wd, that Lancia decided to go down that route.

  • @rmamon2554

    @rmamon2554

    7 ай бұрын

    205 T16 you forgot the 4x4 its also in its name. Joan Todt wanted all its features in it's Name. And what a world beater this thing was. 2 Drivers Championships + 2 Constructors Championships, small, endlessly nimble, and more power than a Cosworth F1 Engine. And if I say small, I mean it 205: 3,70m Delta: 4m Audi S1: 4,16m. My only love this car.

  • @davidvitan3590

    @davidvitan3590

    7 ай бұрын

    The "commercial" 205 was NOT the homologation version of the T16. As with all other Group B cars, there were 200 road-going mid-engined cars that were sold to the public.

  • @alexshank1414

    @alexshank1414

    7 ай бұрын

    You’re both right. It was just a broad scope of the car. Basic layout. My bad for not being diligent enough on the fine specifics.

  • @davidvitan3590

    @davidvitan3590

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@alexshank1414the 205 t16 was a prototype race car that shared absolutely nothing with the regular 205. The Audi was literally the only one of the top group b cars that was based on an actual, mass produced road car (hence why it had the engine in the front)

  • @alexshank1414

    @alexshank1414

    7 ай бұрын

    @@davidvitan3590 Breakin’ my balls. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @reisling664
    @reisling6647 ай бұрын

    These thumbnails are cool af

  • @driver46
    @driver467 ай бұрын

    Very nice video , Lancia was really the biggest legend of rally racing. Those Martini Racing colors will stay with me for my whole life due to Lancia rally team .

  • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

    @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

    18 күн бұрын

    The Porsche factory backed Martini team had just as much/more success then Lanica. Both automakers own those colors more then Ford, lotus, Alfa who also wore the strip.

  • @bernardoberner4
    @bernardoberner47 ай бұрын

    You asked for feedback? Didn't watch the video yet but already want more, your "short" videos are already so good, the long ones will be even better

  • @kevindavis5693
    @kevindavis56937 ай бұрын

    This experiment worked, at least for me. Keep this format it’s perfect.

  • @christycullen2355
    @christycullen23557 ай бұрын

    Your production levels are crazy. You tell one hell of a story

  • @stephencain3467
    @stephencain34677 ай бұрын

    Man I absolutely love your videos it’s like you took the absolute most forgotten automotive gems of the past and add all GT elevator music absolute classic

  • @MachineintheMonkey
    @MachineintheMonkey7 ай бұрын

    I thought I’d seen every bit of footage of group b but the red 037 video is new to me and bloody awesome! I wonder if Sir Walter was at the wheel.

  • @ReboyGTR
    @ReboyGTR7 ай бұрын

    *I would love to see a video on the Audi Quattro.*

  • @magibagi3881
    @magibagi38817 ай бұрын

    Who makes your thumbnails? They look amazing, would love to see them as posters or merch!

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    I make them myself - it takes ages! Maybe there will be posters in the future...

  • @sebastianahrens2385

    @sebastianahrens2385

    7 ай бұрын

    @@automobilistic The investment of time shows, they're simply awesome. Thank you for putting in the effort!

  • @BigDumbMeRC
    @BigDumbMeRC7 ай бұрын

    Love this larger combined video. Thank you for all the work you put into this

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg78437 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this wonderful video! Again, amazing footage and excellent research.

  • @Pjb93
    @Pjb937 ай бұрын

    Incredible mate you are the best out there. Thanks as always. Still on my "watched every second you've uploaded" streak. Would love to see a Subaru Mitsubishi rivalry video!

  • @1982valeriu
    @1982valeriu7 ай бұрын

    Great video yet again, mate! I was 6 or 7 at the end of the '80s, and I still remember that Martini Delta in a large centerfold picture of "Autoturism" (Romania's then car enthusiast magazine) - loved that car ever since!

  • @ciliberti96
    @ciliberti967 ай бұрын

    One of the best automotive content on the platform. Keep up the good work! I would love to hear the history of LeMans

  • @mr.highground9566
    @mr.highground95667 ай бұрын

    Love your videos bro!

  • @lilhaxxor
    @lilhaxxor6 ай бұрын

    I just love the way you told the story. Thanks. ❤

  • @kozi1918
    @kozi19187 ай бұрын

    I really love these rally videos, but I do miss the ones you made on DTM and 90s Group C prototype era, please make some more! If you plan to make more rally videos, I would love to see some footage from the other side of the iron curtain. There isn't much but I would love for you to go deeper into group B subclasses, where cars like Ladas or Skodas often competed. Cheers!

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    More niche rally stuff would definitely be interesting. RE: DTM and Group C - I released a Group C video just 4 days ago! And I definitely plan on covering more DTM in future too

  • @tacklefatkids
    @tacklefatkids5 ай бұрын

    Nobody could make better cars than Lancia for rallying. Don't care about what Subaru fan boys say. Lancia's road racing, prototypes and rallying cars are all special for a reason.

  • @berserkfuryyy6798
    @berserkfuryyy67987 ай бұрын

    I love the long format videos.

  • @ThePussukka
    @ThePussukka7 ай бұрын

    absolutely loving the content

  • @AutySim
    @AutySim7 ай бұрын

    Superb as usual.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh75447 ай бұрын

    I recon it was Saby who drove past accident, and shortly after turned his car around and drove on to oncoming traffic, one of the biggest no no`s in the sport. You can see him standing next to a fire with his helmet on 20:56

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg78437 ай бұрын

    Just pointing out: In the 1987 Rally New Zealand Possum Bourne came third driving a Turbo 4WD Subaru Leone RX, scoring Subaru's first podium in the WRC. Unfortunately such a car was not as extensively campaigned as the Delta, which also won that event.

  • @Ottobon
    @Ottobon7 ай бұрын

    i dont know if its better or worse to label things as such these days but its practically a podcast, love it

  • @phillipstewart2031
    @phillipstewart20317 ай бұрын

    Deserves more subs unreal

  • @FCT8306onTwoWheels
    @FCT8306onTwoWheels6 ай бұрын

    This video is great :) stuff of dreams those Lancia group B rally cars were. Looking sharp with the shades and fit

  • @JohnCharb87
    @JohnCharb877 ай бұрын

    Cool. I notice your new subscribe emblem with orange shades on black background. Eye catching.

  • @Arkham_UK
    @Arkham_UK5 ай бұрын

    Fascinating ❤ thank you.

  • @noahcaroppo6264
    @noahcaroppo62647 ай бұрын

    Quality video mate, surprised by the low view count

  • @SMlFFY85
    @SMlFFY857 ай бұрын

    It's a crime what Fiat did to Lancia in the past 30 years.

  • @profemeritus534

    @profemeritus534

    7 ай бұрын

    That opinion is somewhat ignorant of the fact that all the 10 Lancia WRC titles was actually financed by Fiat. Lancia was just not a brand name worthy of further motorsport financing as they never delivered in showroom sales, it works much better as an Italian grandma's shopping trolley.

  • @stevolarry420stevenslozz3
    @stevolarry420stevenslozz37 ай бұрын

    This was ok mate, I quite enjoyed it. Keep it up an I may sub 👍😎

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling22017 ай бұрын

    The Portugal incident was the beginning of the end of Group B. Sadly. Corsica just finished it. Toivonen's fatal crash. 😢

  • @fauxvier8519
    @fauxvier85197 ай бұрын

    Love to relive ur videos!

  • @jhypyro
    @jhypyro7 ай бұрын

    Man, I love lancia.

  • @DMC_Motorsports
    @DMC_Motorsports7 ай бұрын

    Lancia, one of the greatest car brands to ever exist, the all time best manufacturer in rally (fight me if you disagree) ita such a shame how it's fallen from grace but theor history will forever be known

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh75447 ай бұрын

    Thanks for a quality vid. 80% of the material is from my home rally, 1000Lakes Rally Finland.

  • @northiann
    @northiann7 ай бұрын

    My favorite motorsport source

  • @firstbrotherDK
    @firstbrotherDK7 ай бұрын

    Amazing video! Hope one day you can do a series on Hyundai, kind of from zero to hero, thanks bro!

  • @moncefecw3131
    @moncefecw31315 ай бұрын

    Bro the intro was beautiful

  • @miaouew
    @miaouew7 ай бұрын

    I will NEVER understand why Rally didn't take off here in America. It's got everything

  • @clayongunzelle9555
    @clayongunzelle95557 ай бұрын

    They put a f1 level engine on a frame with a couple panels.... Crazyville😅

  • @CathodeRayNipplez
    @CathodeRayNipplez6 ай бұрын

    The world is a lesser place without Lancia bonkersness.

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb24707 ай бұрын

    Back in early 90's I got a Lancia 2000HPE Coupe , prettiest wee Thing and totally Super fast..

  • @laletraf5568
    @laletraf55687 ай бұрын

    Great video! Can you make a video about the Pescarolo Sport C60?

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    Would love to cover Pescarolo - I'll get to it eventually!

  • @Rentta
    @Rentta7 ай бұрын

    There was also ECV 2 which looked nothing like Delta :P

  • @themrwinston9570
    @themrwinston95707 ай бұрын

    8:21 my ears are ringing. preserving nostalgia is genuinely super cool, but im pretty sure nobody's asking to be reminded of the way their CRT would hiss at them. i couldn't focus on a word you said the whole time this clip was playing.

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    apologies! I clearly need some new headphones because I didn't pick that up while editing - thanks for letting me know

  • @themrwinston9570

    @themrwinston9570

    7 ай бұрын

    @@automobilistic ❤️

  • @brdllc
    @brdllc7 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah it’s automobilistic long form video time

  • @rmamon2554
    @rmamon25547 ай бұрын

    I have never heard someone calling the O37 the zero37 except in this Docu.

  • @rodeduivel1000
    @rodeduivel10007 ай бұрын

    i can see lancia making a comeback with e rally or whatever it is called i really hope they bring back the delta in its old form

  • @bobibest89
    @bobibest894 ай бұрын

    5:18 How the hell this car took those corners??? Absolutely unbelievable.

  • @kexcz8276
    @kexcz82765 ай бұрын

    Now I see why its always the Delta S4 or integrale 😅😂. Not my favorite in terms of beauty (I liked the wedges more), but still- glad that Lancia, despite not seen often today, has its earned glory 🙂

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh57416 ай бұрын

    The 037 engine was a developed Fiat 131 Abarth engine - vital point. That 16V engine started life in 124 Spider Abarth Rally in 1974 and ended in Lancia Delta S4 in 1986. Which was a developed from 037, code named Abarth 038. Then they put a ”Delta silhoulette” body on it. It seems Abarth bullt at least 150 cars as over 100 factory new ones was for sale ”cheaply” in 1987, as reported in my swedish magazine Teknikens Värld in period.

  • @NunoRamos100
    @NunoRamos1006 ай бұрын

    In the Rally of Portugal 1986, the driver of the Ford RS 200 who had the accident was a portuguese driver, who's name was Joaquim Santos.

  • @SilentKillerPrince
    @SilentKillerPrince3 ай бұрын

    What's unbelievable about Lancia history is that Lancia isn't some big manifacturer. It didn't have the infinite cash flow Audi or Toyota or Peugeot had, it only won because of sheer talent and, most importantly, passion. Those were the years where manifacturers still tought "Can I afford to race? No. Do I want to race? Hell yeah", times where you sold cars to make enough money to be able to race, not the opposite.

  • @mhh7544
    @mhh75447 ай бұрын

    Firts time Alen tested the group A car he said to his co-pilot, look, I can drive this with one hand, its going to be a long year....

  • @charlespriestly7613
    @charlespriestly76137 ай бұрын

    Is the a high pitched noise from 8:00 to 8:31?

  • @thetruthspeaker1978
    @thetruthspeaker19787 ай бұрын

    That co-driver walking away from a fatal crash raised my hair..😮😢

  • @doggSMK
    @doggSMK6 ай бұрын

    This is one of (if not THE) best car channel ever!

  • @tommytllefsen3863
    @tommytllefsen38636 ай бұрын

    The Delta looked great compared to affordable family cars today😓

  • @TheDf2med
    @TheDf2med7 ай бұрын

    Can you make a video covering development and competition of amazing french maxi (megane and 306) kit cars?

  • @Pabig93
    @Pabig936 ай бұрын

    You have a mistake in the video concerning the 1986 season. You mention that all the results got annulled but that is not correct. Only the Rally San Remo got annulled for controversial reasons. The rest of the seasons points stood and Juha Kankkunen won the 1986 title.

  • @joaovictorcesa9443
    @joaovictorcesa94437 ай бұрын

    Lancia, gone too soon....

  • @TheDf2med

    @TheDf2med

    7 ай бұрын

    They pulled the plug just in time. Just look at Sainz nightmare 1993 season.

  • @joaovictorcesa9443

    @joaovictorcesa9443

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheDf2med well yeah, but wish we could at least have gotten some more cool road cars

  • @theschnurrbart2260
    @theschnurrbart22607 ай бұрын

    babamäßig

  • @alaricbragg7843
    @alaricbragg78437 ай бұрын

    Ironically the Renault driver who won the 1986 Portuguese Rally nearly got incinerated in a crash in the Azores Rally later that year. He retired on the spot!

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling22017 ай бұрын

    Any videos on Group B and I'm watching!! Unfortunately Group B was a victim of it's own success and developments in the cars. The cars were getting faster and, in the end, were too fast for the places where they were racing. The crowds didn't help, along with the lack of safety. So it was definitely a victim of it's own success. The cars were amazing. Lancia Delta S4, Audi Quatro, Peugeot 205 Gti etc. It was the golden era of Rallying for me.

  • @tomdtom5407

    @tomdtom5407

    6 ай бұрын

    Peugeot 205 GTI wasn't in group B. It was the 205 T16

  • @mrkipling2201

    @mrkipling2201

    6 ай бұрын

    @@tomdtom5407 yes you're right, my mistake.

  • @Boa74
    @Boa746 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why Audi competed with the 200 when in facts the Quattro was a Coupè with 4WD. More than 11000 Quattro were made and it was a perfect Group A

  • @ramadhanisme7
    @ramadhanisme77 ай бұрын

    Lancia really knows the best time to quit from rally

  • @SpacedOdyssey
    @SpacedOdyssey6 ай бұрын

    Now it's Toyota's Turn, Two titles back to back

  • @stroganis
    @stroganis7 ай бұрын

    i wist lancia will make another new fun car

  • @robertkenney7122
    @robertkenney71227 ай бұрын

    Yaaaaassss! 😂

  • @michaelhirst5072
    @michaelhirst50727 ай бұрын

    I would of thought the ford escort would of had the the biggest legacy

  • @watanabeisamu1461
    @watanabeisamu14617 ай бұрын

    Lancia ラリーCar エンジンがハイパワーラリーのF1 マシンー 最強グループB が廃止になってしまった😢Lancia S4 ヘンリートーイボンネンが事故で亡くなってしまった残念

  • @falt.a7350

    @falt.a7350

    7 ай бұрын

    Hey Samurai... TOHIVONNEN😂😂😂 GREETS from Italy 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

  • @luiwammes4193
    @luiwammes41937 ай бұрын

    Here's a man telling us about the history of Lancia in Rally. The Lancia Rallycars. I would then think you would kinda know the competition. Walter Rörhl drove an Opel Ascona 400; not an Opel Asconda.

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    just mis-spoke. it happens from time to time

  • @window469wow3
    @window469wow37 ай бұрын

    hi

  • @marks7197
    @marks71977 ай бұрын

    For me and many others at the time Lancia's reputation was tarnished by their Group 6 entries in the early 80"s, I lost a lot of respect for them as a result.

  • @zephyrod7307
    @zephyrod73077 ай бұрын

    8:00 ow my ears. Why’s there a dogwhistle

  • @oskark312
    @oskark3127 ай бұрын

    8:00 i hear a hum from the video?

  • @owen_vlogs706
    @owen_vlogs7066 ай бұрын

    I forgot there's 2 Carlos signs.

  • @Bozar069
    @Bozar0697 ай бұрын

    For some strange reason every time I watch old racing clips I have an urge to smoke cigarettes.

  • @derrickstorm6976

    @derrickstorm6976

    7 ай бұрын

    Sir, that's called an addiction trigger

  • @captainsmartass3368
    @captainsmartass33687 ай бұрын

    I hope you can do a video on the Peugeot 205 T16

  • @marciocarvalho8975
    @marciocarvalho89757 ай бұрын

    A Família Fiat destruiu algumas das mais importantes e icónicas marcas de carros italianas. Jamais compraria um carro Fiat

  • @jaevindear2272
    @jaevindear22725 ай бұрын

    Not twin turbo twin charged.

  • @giuseppemaggio5894
    @giuseppemaggio58947 ай бұрын

    Most successful brand in F1 --> Ferrari Most successful brand in Rally --> Lancia First brand to win a race and a title in F1 --> Alfa Romeo First driver to win a race and an F1 Championship --> Farina First driver to win 2 championships in a row ---> Ascari The bike currently dominating Moto GP --> Ducati The rider who won last year and probably this year --> Bagnaia The two most successful riders in history --> Agostini and Rossi The car that dominated German DTM on debut --> Alfa Romeo 155 Think about this next time someone tells you that Italian engineering is not the best Finally, keep in mind that the VW group was saved in the late 70s by a genius Italian designer.

  • @noobsaibot7006

    @noobsaibot7006

    6 ай бұрын

    I hope people respect Italian cars more and Italian engineering. Italian cars may not be perfect but they are winners.

  • @radman4006
    @radman40066 ай бұрын

    Sorry man, the rose colored glass thing went away in the 70's

  • @LucaBlightOfHighland
    @LucaBlightOfHighland7 ай бұрын

    And it was eventually forgotten as a maker of hideous overpriced AF subcompacts.

  • @renoultrenoulli2322
    @renoultrenoulli23227 ай бұрын

    Toyota 1993 win must feel very hollow when you consider they won because the 6 times consecutive champion just bailout from the sport

  • @fireraider2428
    @fireraider24287 ай бұрын

    Is this a repost?

  • @automobilistic

    @automobilistic

    7 ай бұрын

    check the pinned comment / video description

  • @derrickstorm6976

    @derrickstorm6976

    7 ай бұрын

    The other video is clearly only about the Delta cars...

  • @chriskappert1365
    @chriskappert13656 ай бұрын

    Lancia should have only built rallycars .......and Alfa only racecars . Their biggest mistake was selling cars for everyday use year in year out !

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