Absolutely disgusting that the state would take this man funeral money! 😡

@greenbyrd3665

Жыл бұрын

Right. No conscience.

@nephtys369

Жыл бұрын

The state fucked up. It’s theirs to own. It should not have taken a penny from them. Absolutely disgusting.

@marshachesbro5969

Жыл бұрын

Shame on them .!

@IVANMONSTER69

Жыл бұрын

And u know there living it up.😩

@inflation1139

Жыл бұрын

Democrats hired over 81k NEW IRS works , you think that was for no reason. 😂😂😂 yall get what you vote for 100000% of the time. 🤷🏾‍♂️

When it’s the states fault then the state should take responsibility for it. Period! They wouldn’t even let her bury her husband? What a disgrace our country has become! This makes me so mad!

@nicolleleney5299

Жыл бұрын

@@noahriding5780 - Did you watch the clip???? The STATE told them how much money they were getting. You are sick.

@ninjatarot

Жыл бұрын

@@noahriding5780 Do you think the State is doing this on purpose to steal from citizens later down the road? Because if that’s what your saying then yeah I could see that.

@MsFBell

Жыл бұрын

Pure evil

@velvetie1657

Жыл бұрын

@@noahriding5780 they literally sent them a letter saying they had made a mistake. Watch the video again.

@RBLACKPEARL7

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY 💯, This government has become so Ungodly but we have to ask God to Stop them and make the reimburse Everyone Asap in Jesus Name & believe 🙏 Amen.

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9 ай бұрын

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Cant they sue the state for mental distress or consumer fraud??!! There's has to be a law! This is sickening and it should be fought!!

@KSwizzleDrizzle

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. This was the states fault. The mental distress and the trauma the state put her through, she could blow this this up and force the state to settle because they are clearly in the wrong. The general public sides with her. I don’t see how any judge would rule against this retiree who couldn’t even afford to pay for her husbands funeral.

@leelee7731

Жыл бұрын

The government is exempt from lawsuits unless specific situations

@Airam_Legnar

Жыл бұрын

Should be but he chose to not fight it because the government can go for years in court meantime he would probably spend all his money paying lawyer fees.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

& The judge sides w/ State

@jamedlock83

Жыл бұрын

No, they cannot

The state overpaid my mother and didn't find the error until she died. They kept calling and calling daily. I finally gave them her new address at the cemetery and that's the last time they called.

@mikecarlton9000

Жыл бұрын

Correct Fk the state

@classicredwine

Жыл бұрын

Good for you!

@lisabrightly

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I hate those bastards so much . People who hold those jobs are demons.

@stevenroshni1228

Жыл бұрын

Good going

@chinaarlene7035

Жыл бұрын

Halleluyah

It's a shame! Meanwhile, Police misconduct cost North Carolina taxpayers over $6M in settlements but refuse to waive $241K on a 80 year old retiree.

@swgame2511

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!

@saltysouthernmomma9354

Жыл бұрын

How about all our tax dollars being sent to Ukraine, meanwhile illegals are staying in 5☆ hotels on OUR dime? 2023 & ole Bobblehead Biden is putting American citizens LAST!

@demeraragold4644

Жыл бұрын

Facts!!!!!

@IVANMONSTER69

Жыл бұрын

Exactly how they come to these crazy ass millions and millions on these cases is just beyond me.

@tima.478

Жыл бұрын

Taxpayers paying for the ill actions of police is just as much a damn shame.

The current treasurer saying "well its was the previous ones fault" says all you need to know how greedy he is

This is heartbreaking. The new state treasurer is a piece of work, "this is pre-Dale" and then the chuckle. Your predecessor screwed up and you chose the easiest way to try and repay it, on the back of senior citizen retirees. Joe didn't "age out," he died delivering auto parts, when he should've been out fishing or sitting at home reading the newspaper.

@gi4dtv

Жыл бұрын

But isn't he the one asking for the money back.

Unconscionable, I cannot understand the gall of the state to victimize this couple when the onus was entirely on the state.

@ninjatarot

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanbanner2766 We should do something about this so it doesn’t happen to someone else

Greed and dishonesty will destroy this world. If companies make mistakes, they should eat it.

@healing4thysoulministries453

Жыл бұрын

You are so right "greed and dishonesty". The things that the Lord hates. God help us! In Jesus name I pray. Let them have mercy as you have mercy on us.

@floridaviolets9601

Жыл бұрын

@@healing4thysoulministries453 I hope this means you vote for the politicians that support expanding Medicare, support universal health care, lowering the retirement age, free childcare for needy families, support unions, and in general support helping the people in need and not themselves. If not u are all talk.

@derricklangford4725

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it was an honest mistake. It sounds like good ole fashion southern Getcha Gotcha, too me 🤨

@eavymuturuh3717

Жыл бұрын

@@derricklangford4725could be

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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Жыл бұрын

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This story had me in tears. This is shameful how they treat hard working retirees like this. 😥

Interesting that the people who made the error aren't being held accountable by paying back the money.

@clementthurn1992

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY !!!!

@ChinkyChan

Жыл бұрын

Considering if I over paid a Contractor they would say that was my fault & would have to eat the loss.

@DeimosSaturn

Жыл бұрын

This ain't the monopoly board game, chump. There's no 'bank error in your favor' get out of jail free. If you were given money you know wasn't yours, it's your moral responsibility to return it. You don't just look around shifty and pocket the cash like everything's hunky dory. Nah, pay it back.

@Emation7

Жыл бұрын

@@DeimosSaturn Clearly you did not listen carefully and you are ignorant. The state initially verified that they were dispensing the correct pension amount. That is one of the first things retirees have to verify before they get any checks. That includes social security.

@alex46215

Жыл бұрын

@@DeimosSaturn Both Parties wrong, State made a mistake, retiree accepted mistake, so BOTH should pay for the error right?

The State should have completed an investigation to determine who made the mistake and why they made the mistake for every year for a total of 17 years. Given the total failure of the State, they should eat this debt and if they want to recover the money, they should recover it from the people that made the mistake for every year of 17 years! This family was not at fault and shouldn't be treated like they were! This is a disgusting abuse of power!!!!!!!!!

@cboy5oc

Жыл бұрын

They are evil and heartless people, sickening. So unrighteous.

@OkImJustCommenting

Жыл бұрын

I agree!!!!

@gbabylove8621

Жыл бұрын

They are not telling the truth. The previous treasure probably not a fact, stole the damn money and there trying to get it back from the elderly who they know want fight it. They will reap what the sowed. Vengeance is mine so say the Lord!

@josephhodges9819

Жыл бұрын

@@gbabylove8621 You have just slandered someone so you should hope he does not come after you.

@gbabylove8621

Жыл бұрын

@josephhodges9819 Thanks for enlightening me on my wording. I have updated my response as an opinion not a fact.

That funeral home man who donated the service is a gift to society.

This is disgusting! Making an 80 year old man pay back $241,000, when it was a mistake made by the state. It's also disgusting that this man's funeral funds were taken away as well. This literally brought me to tears. Shame on you North Carolina!

@VOAN

11 ай бұрын

Yeap and they won't fix their mistake unless both the couple died. They were planning to kill both of them from the very beginning. Every one working in the department of treasury of that state should be charge as a serial killer and sent to life in prison without parole.

The state needs to pay her back. Taking money from a dead man's funeral because of a mistake they made? That is Satan's work!

@michaelmartin8337

Жыл бұрын

It's also the "liberal" M.O. - OH, it's the same thing my bad

@gotyoutriggered.8644

Жыл бұрын

They are the dumb ones for paying it back. They could of just ignored it or filed bankruptcy.

@bkrgls

Жыл бұрын

Not Satan...just cold hearted low down greedy people.

I am a retired lawyer and find this shocking. This honest, hardworking retiree should have hired a good lawyer and sued the city for abuse of their authority and violating his civil rights. All the resulting bad publicity would have forced the city to mediate and resolve this for pennies on the dollar.

@characterchange6793

Жыл бұрын

I agree but remember these are older black people who have seen a lot of horrible injustices. They may have felt they were already defeated before they received the negligent letter. For many, the thought is, who will truly fight for us? 😢 I pray that this family and the others receive true justice.

@todayicelebrateme

Жыл бұрын

I agree! I hope his wife will hire an attorney..

@incognitonegress3453

Жыл бұрын

@CharacterChange n this right here is y we continue 2 go thru such vile injustices. N hey...where is this woman's gofundme? But, an ol white bag got early retirement after verbally abusing children on a school bus? Like, I fuxxxn hate this place so damn bad.

@Arkryal

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure you're a lawyer? There wouldn't be a civil rights claim here, they'd just be looking for injunctive relief. A judge can dismiss the debt. That doesn't mean they will, but they can, in theory. And the action would be against the state, not the city. The problem is the law is technically on the state's side. If a judge rules, it will be for the state. Their hands are tied by the law. This needs to go in front of a jury, and your play in court is "Jury Nullification"... that is (for any unfamiliar with the term) when the jury decides to disregard the law in their verdict. Juries do have that right, but it's very, very hard to pull off in practice. Most jurors don't even know they have that right and talk of it in a courtroom is typically barred, so it won't be part of the instructions they're given. No lawyer wants to take a case that hinges on jury nullification, they almost always lose. But she is sympathetic. That makes it possible (but still extremely difficult). However, I don't see this going to court, for reasons I'll discuss later. The other option is to amass public support and petition the Governor. What the President is to the United States, the Governor is to the individual state, they can make executive decisions in these matters. But they're elected officials, and if you want to take a chunk out of a state budget, the public really needs to raise the issue forcefully and relentlessly. They don't care about one headline or a 5 minute segment from a local news station. When people are talking about it for months, and they realize it won't just blow over, that's when they'll step in. Another way to go is to not address the debt at all, but rather make a claim against the state that the error (not the money, but the mistake itself) has caused significant damages to the family, and be able to show that the damages hopefully meet or exceed the amount of debt, and use any awarded funds to service the debt, or as leverage to settle without payment. That's a roundabout approach, but one that's likely to be heard at least. But that is not a route most lawyers would want to go. There would have to be some very compelling damages not mentioned in this report. I don't know that there are, but that's why she needs to talk to a lawyer. Any way you dice it, it's an extreme up-hill battle. A couple other options: Petition a Social Trust A Social Trust is a type of charity. The basic premise is that sometimes bad things happen, and nobody is actually liable, but someone is stuck with the bill. It's generally for things that one cannot be insured against, and would have no reasonable way to foresee. These are often set up by Churches, sometimes by community groups (various Lodges and commerce associations) etc. If she were Mormon, a Hassidic Jew, etc, those communities take care of their own, and likely would have chipped in and paid the debt already. Everyone would kick in $5-$10 if they could, and businesses associated with those faiths would likely donate more, or host some kind of fund raiser, etc. Police and Firefighters, for example, can often get those types of benefits from their respective associations and/or unions. There are a lot of private safety nets out there, but they're usually earmarked for specific groups, so I don't know if any would step in here. A Reverse Mortgage If she owns her home (it's all paid off, and the title is clear of any liens), she can borrow against the equity in the home. Basically, she's selling the home to the bank or an investment group, slowly over time. She can continue living there and gets a check every month, while a portion of the property's ownership is conveyed to the party paying her. That means she can't sell the house, and when she passes, it goes to the company, it's not inheritable. Let's say her home is worth $400,000. She could likely get $300,000 for it, broken up into smaller monthly payments. They're buying below market value, and assuming the value will appreciate. These are usually a last-ditch move for seniors who find themselves in dire straights. It's never a good deal for the homeowner, but it could give her some income to live on, if she can get an agreement for a low repayment plan on the debt. Given that they filed for bankruptcy, this may be a lot harder. Selling Life Insurance If she has a life insurance policy, sometimes those can be sold. Name the buyer as the beneficiary. When she passes, the insurance money is conveyed to them, and she gets a nice check up-front, which could be used to pay the debt. Some states have laws against these arrangements, again, see a lawyer. Simply don't pay it. Being awarded money is one thing, collecting it is another entirely. The state may technically be owed, but their ability to actually take it is limited. They WILL get it in the end, make no mistake about that. But they could be made to jump through their own bureaucratic hoops for years trying. Not to be harsh, but she's old, and probably won't be around for many more years, and stalling on payment for a few years is easy. But do so only under the advice of qualified legal counsel. Don't just stop paying and expect it to work out. The devil is in the details, and how you stop paying matters a lot. One commentor here mentioned "Qualified Immunity". That is true, the official and employees responsible for the original error could not be sued personally as liable. But the State still can be sued. The state itself has no such immunity. "Governmental Immunity" does exist, but is not in play here. She needs a lawyer. Discovery in this case is everything. What was the original source of the accounting error? That's what matters. Perhaps it was the result of a bug in their software, and the makers of that software may be liable. We're just assuming it was human error, but it happened to 40 other people. Or they may be able to establish that government employees were not sufficiently trained and qualified, or perhaps there was some fraud that occurred, and such errors were foreseeable, and this arose from institutional negligence. None of us know what would turn up in Discovery. And the fact that they likely won't be able to produce records going back 17+ years means a court could at least justify limiting the debt to a period in which records can be produced for verification. Make them show their work here. Get all the records, and if anything is missing from the production, fight them on it. This isn't the type of case that ends in a stirring courtroom argument from a talented attorney. These cases are won or lost by document requests alone. Realistically, this would never see a courtroom anyway. It won't be dramatic, it will probably come down to a sharply worded email from a paralegal, lol. Anti-climatic, but a win is a win.

@goshen7334

Жыл бұрын

Regular black peoples don’t have the resources to hire a lawyer. White peoples are clueless to what we go through everyday. Our lives are held in the balance everyday. I’m working really hard to never have to go to the hospital, because most black peoples don’t have a chance in the hands of a white Doctor. My son delivered his baby at home, because of the trauma they went through with other pregnancies. So buddy, easier said than done. We are an oppressed people on every side. Only our Black God can save us and his chariots.

Nobody can become financially successful over night. They put in background work but we tend to see the finished part. Fear is a dangerous component, hindering us from taking bold steps we need in other to reach our goals.

@donnabrannan1448

Жыл бұрын

I think it's not always about fear, Sometimes realistic factors discourage people from reaching their goals in life. For instance, I've tried investing in the stock market several times but always got discouraged by fluctuations of stock value.

@donnabrannan1448

Жыл бұрын

@arthurlester805 Oh that sounds good but how do i reach out to MARTHA ALONSO HARA ?

@donnabrannan1448

Жыл бұрын

@arthurlester805 OKay i just found her website very impressive and dropped a message for her.,. i hope she reply me.

Man! This is insane! That poor man! What a true hero! He REALLY tried to pay it back....i mean almost 5 grand working at O'Reillys?! Man..that was REAL EFFORT right there...this is hard not to get teary eyed i just feel emotional cuz it's not fair at all. They messed up the VERY end of their life together. Smeared the happiness and time together because he had to go to work and they obviously weren't ok on money. They stopped paying him since they overpaid. Right? Ugh

I cried when I saw this story. This is completely wrong. ANY AND ALL errors the State made should be PAID FOR, ie; ABSORBED BY THE STATE...shame on them. The funeral parlor that donated the services is a blessing for sure. God Bless this lady and her family, I will pray for them everyday 🙏 .

@amtravelingservice4400

Жыл бұрын

Don't feel bad , I cried too. These are good people , hard working people , honest and just. The supreme court of the the heavens will soon render it's verdict soon and this wicked earth will be cleansed. Rev 21:3-4

@gerilong7380

Жыл бұрын

I also cried ❤

@sbss924

Жыл бұрын

I cried also.

@afropuertorican8022

Жыл бұрын

Can somebody help her GoFundMe page or can we az people help

@_heycupcake

Жыл бұрын

I cried too. 💔

This is disgusting! And thank you to the Funeral guy that help Mrs.Penny out.

I'm about to cry 😢. These people are so evil. This is heartbreaking, devils, how could you do this to the elderly?

As a 67 year old retiree since 2020 at 65, hearing about this news story saddened me. Although, I worked in the private sector all my life, this could happen to someone in the private sector. Stress from this and Mr. Glenn having to go back to work in his 80's most likely took him on to glory. 😢 😭

WOW! Even in death, the state needs to be sued. Yes, statute of limitations! What a headache.

@jeanleteff1221

Жыл бұрын

It's not a headache our seniors are experiencing, it's a heartache. We have to take care of our seniors

@williamcope2652

Жыл бұрын

But I’ll bet it was fun spending that extra quarter million cash that they didn’t have coming to them. How does somebody not notice that they have an extra quarter million dollars in their retirement?

@eagna546

Жыл бұрын

@@williamcope2652 how does a highly educated accountant not see their mistake of allowing a quarter of a billion dollars into someone else’s retirement account? You’re only making this comment because of the color of the victims! You’d be dead silent had this been an older white couple. You piece of shit.

I'm under the impression that if the state made the error for 17 years it's their own fault and should take the loss.

@PRISCILLA_RHOSE

Жыл бұрын

Fr

This is sick. And then taking the families funeral money. That’s what you call true DEMONS. Business has no feelings or emotions.

This is just unconscionably evil. An 80 year old having to go back to work?

The State should be ashamed and WRITE-OFF this wrongfully incurred debt to ALL employees affected, due to it's error!!! 😡😡😡

The stress killed him. 😢 Condolences to his wife.

@kelvinmorris1991

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@trayrite4040

Жыл бұрын

I agree , it's a shame

@dallrevenge9256

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, He didn't live his last days in a relaxed state. At 80 you should have no worries, you made it.

How ridiculous! Just unacceptable that a worker should be held responsible for someone else's mistake! Someone should sue the state!

Alot of this is not an mistake. They change the algorithm/ formula to pay people less and they enforce it retroactively. Social security does it all the time and say they"over paid" but then say in the letter once their debt is paid, they will go back to getting the original amount.

He paid back $4,976.17 too much!

@justanotherday3969

Жыл бұрын

PLUS the $10,000 "Funeral Policy". So they were paid a total of $14,976.17, and the funeral home swallowed the cost of the funeral.

@lisabrightly

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable!

@gotyoutriggered.8644

Жыл бұрын

They are uneducated. They filed bankruptcy but didn't think to include the debt.

What’s sad is that these people worked their whole lives and did everything right and now she has to repay a mistake. Infuriating because the cops go out and brazenly violate civil rights with no worry because they know the tax payers will cover the cost. I think the taxpayers would rather their money go to forgiving the Glen’s debt to the state.

@Chicago48

Жыл бұрын

The state took the funeral money???

@magnusdunning6113

Жыл бұрын

Nice way you worked that anti-cop bullshit into this. It’s sad period. Why? It’s a State error, and morality says that mistake must be eaten by the state. The other garbage is your input and has no place here. Keep focused and stick to that truth. BTW, perps routinely violate police officer’s civil rights: life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

@sootuckchoong7077

Жыл бұрын

What is the mistake? Isnt the mistake to be paid by the govt for their own mistake?

@deannekliene2673

Жыл бұрын

Coos are not all bad people! They have nothing to do with this case!

@kellypatterson4412

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

This is so heartbreaking!!! My parent's are in their early 70's and both are retired. I never want to imagine something like this happening to them or anyone's parents. This is awful!!!

Very sad story. Thank you for sharing

Thank you brotha, for being so charitable to these elders!

This is unbelievable!! If the Treasury assured that man that the payout was right from the beginning and then they screwed up for 17 years and paid him the wrong amount the Treasury should be eating that cost! This is totally on the Treasury!!

Man said “pre-Dale” with a smirk. Like he’s proud of the outcome.

@rnhim2072

Жыл бұрын

He's quite the ass, hopefully this news story will get him to stop harrassing these poor folks

There are times when the state needs to eat their mistakes. They have this expectation that people can just pay them right back, like they're hoarding the money. I'm sorry, but if the tax date rolls over and the state hasn't found their mistake, tough cookies in my book. The state screwed up.

OUTRAGEOUS!!! I wish somebody would set up a Gofundme, and publicize this on national news. These folks did everything right...they're hardworking folks, and for him to have gone back to work in his 80's, to cover another person's error, is just appalling. If the state insists on being DESPICABLE, then maybe a Gofundme can give this lady a happier experience. Shame on the people responsible for inflicting so much hurt on this couple!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@truth4004

Жыл бұрын

They should all get a lawyer together for a law suit.

@chinaarlene7035

Жыл бұрын

@Truth yep. I wonder if they have children or grandchildren who can help because at that age it's easy to feel defeated. So sad 😞

@hermanrogers1325

Жыл бұрын

The state will take the go fund me money to

@hikingwiththedog6078

Жыл бұрын

@@hermanrogers1325 Yeah, that's fine, the state can take it to pay off the debt, and hopefully there'd be plenty left over for this lady. I don't know if she's got any relatives who can start the gofundme, but if not, maybe the news station can do it. I really hope somebody does it.

@noglenogle

Жыл бұрын

So set one up! Stop ""wishing""

This is unbelievable. They are elderly. They don’t have it. People need people. They needed help.

Damn even the government will allow you to pay a minimum payment. I remember social security setting up $10 a month repayment on large overpayments.

They need to create a new law that makes it illegal to collect overpayment when the state makes an error.

I don’t believe they made a mistake. They needed money and they decided to take it from people that don’t matter to them. The wife needs an attorney to look into this for her. This is absolutely a scandalous situation

@rgarri6396

Жыл бұрын

What are you smoking? If a bank puts money in your account on accident do you get to keep it? No, it’s a sad story but what’s the law say? Go fund me could help this lady.

@adaboy4z

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! It happened in Texas with teachers' retirement. They said the millions from lottery income would fund it. Now the money has disappeared.

@craigfelter

Жыл бұрын

I dunno...you know what your retirement should be. At least, if you had any sense, you should. You keep getting overpaid, and you never look into it? I feel bad for these people, but come on. Take a little responsibility. A quarter million in overages is decades worth of overages.

@ryanscott4866

Жыл бұрын

@@rgarri6396so the state can make a mistake for 17 years and that’s okay

@SuperKede

Жыл бұрын

@@rgarri6396 stop being a moron and blindly backing up the government like some idiot. Did you not pay attention to the story? They received a check and a letter every single year explaining everything was how it should be. Not everyone is some accountant not everyone can afford accountant to look at paperwork. The guy works for his local government in retired from there and have a pension the same thing that a copper fire fighter would have. Why would he go about questioning his pension with every single year he was receiving a letter, stating everything was good and they were getting the proper amount? If you truly think the family screwed up, then you’re screwed of the heading of a complete idiot. He didn’t pay attention to the video or hear any of the details. And hate to break it to you the government screw things up all the time. In fact, they screw things up more than private companies ever do. Look no further than $500 billion that was stolen from the United States citizens, and throw into Ukraine for a war that no one wants to be a part of

This is so egregious! Land of the GREED. A Couple in there 60’s and 80’s to pay back that Dept?!?! WHO DECIDED this all while they cower behind a Desk?

The guy at the funeral home is a REAL hero. He wasn't having any of the shite from the state. I know I am a little cynical saying he got real mileage from the advertising but he darn well deserved to do that. What a real gentleman......

This is elder abuse!!!! They needed a lawyer to fight for them, but so many elderly people may feel like this is a personal matter.😢

The city of Raleigh should be so damn ashamed of themselves!! This was THEIR mistake, perpetrated by THEIR employee, therefore, THEY should just suck it up, walk away and try to hire more competent employees going forward.

Judgement is upon that department. This is beyond demonic and heartless.

The state made the error and demanded someone else pay for it. Young people, please stay in touch with your older relatives. I think a younger person would have known right away to take the state to court and would have had the energy and fight to help them see it through. Some older folks get overwhelmed, intimated and taken advantage of. Serious corruption in that treasury department.

This hurts my heart. The state should waive the debts due to their error. So sorry for anyone affected by this situation.

Shame on this State Dept of Treasury. Hold the people who made the error accountable. This is unacceptable! Bless the man from the funeral home.

What about all that money they give to Ukraine

@microponics2695

Жыл бұрын

You trying to get your account banned going off the cult narrative ?

@banzy5387

Жыл бұрын

Ummmm I don’t think the State of North Carolina gave to Ukraine. 🙄

@XoxoMoot

Жыл бұрын

​@@banzy5387 Every state gave and keeps giving to Ukraine and now to the illegals!

@cherrelleg8276

Жыл бұрын

@@banzy5387everyone who pay taxes hence ever had a job paid for the money given to Ukraine. Where do u think it came from???

@gailmiller6333

Жыл бұрын

@@cherrelleg8276 👍🏿👍🏿EXACTLY! It ALL came from FEDERAL TAXES!

I don't have the words to describe how angry I am. So because of their screw up, they ruined this family. Imagine being in your 80s and instead of doing fly fishing or traveling to visit your great grand kids or tending to your garden, you're hard at work, trying to pay back a debt due to an error that was no fault of your own. How were they supposed to know the state screwed up? Usually with stories like this, I listen and say, "Ok, here's how I'll make sure that never happens to me". But in this case, I'm not sure if there's a lesson here. The man going after these people is evil, plain and simple.

This is completely indicative of the power of government, and how government will never admit that it was wrong. If government decided it made a mistake with everyone across the whole US, it can begin to take back when it believes it is owed. We need private markets serving private people.

Not counting interest accrual, $241K over 17 years is about $1,181 per month. The benefit letter shows $1,719.01 , that mistake = 68% of the benefit received. Joseph probably knew something because he contacted the retirement system and retirement system confirmed with that benefit letter. He did his due deligence and his widow should not have to pay back that money.

@timgomez14

Жыл бұрын

At least you caught the REAL issue! They were paying him SLAVE WAGES for a retirement benefit. What individual can live off $600 a month even with social security added?

Since the mistake happened over several years, they should be allowed to pay it back over several years. There is something unsettling about this because bookkeepers and accountants are well trained. How could this happen?😮

@lql1094

Жыл бұрын

Right. They fuck over people ON PURPOSE and hurt us for fun. DISGUSTING!

@healing4thysoulministries453

Жыл бұрын

They should not be responsible for the state's error. They should recup the money through other ways. This is inhuman.

@Mark-qv4bn

Жыл бұрын

​@@healing4thysoulministries453 It's also inhuman that an 80 year old man had to go back to work to try to at least pay some of it back. The stress of their mistake shortened his life. The family should sue the pants off the city.

@eavymuturuh3717

Жыл бұрын

@@Mark-qv4bnyep

@truth4004

Жыл бұрын

They shouldn't have to pay it back. Not their error.

This is heartfelt.

How sad… I can’t believe the state would even dare ask for money back when it was their error

That’s really low to take someone’s funeral money!! No sympathy whatsoever! Just sad!😢

@nicktalk8589

Жыл бұрын

We make decent money, but I don't see how we will be able to afford funeral services. My dad didn't have one either, worked his whole life, had insurance, homeowner. Life in the US is expensive. Pensions like this don't even exist anymore. My mom won't either. That said, I do feel it was greedy of them. It went too far, these things do mean something to some people.

This is disgusting! Should still get a lawyer and sue on behalf of his estate. This is their negligence in miscalculating. How would they know that the payments are wrong? Accounting malpractice

As a country, we suck!

What a sweetheart! I hate bad things happening to good people. Breaks my heart ❤️

Think about all the tax exemptions NC gives out to big companies and they stick it to the most vulnerable.

@truth4004

Жыл бұрын

And forgiven ppp loans for members of congress and they're millionaires.

@virtuaguyverify

Жыл бұрын

That's how it works though, go after the people who are willing to pay.

@michaelmartin8337

Жыл бұрын

"liberals" need to pay for their failed policies somehow - right?

This is beyond sad. They drove this man to his grave by putting stress on him to pay back a debt that was never going to be paid. 😢

The company I work for overpaid a retiree $160,000 for 20 years. It wasn’t discovered until after his death, when his wife started receiving a survivor benefit. Per IRS rules for qualified retirement plans, the company has to make an attempt to recoup the overpayment (plus interest). However, the company wrote off the debt by paying back the retirement plan trust the overpayment amount. There was no way his widow could have ever paid that back and the overpayment was a company error.

That is Truly very sad. The state of North Carolina should be ashamed of themselves. No respect or human decency. This was not the families error. Truly inhumane!

They need a Lawyer! To Re sue the State & the individuals that sent all those Statements! It's should not be the Couples Problem! Period! That's an internal issue! The State is showing now accountability for the Many Year's it Happily sent out their Own statements ! Then why send anything at all!; They should find a Major Law firm with a Law Suit for Incompetence, That Has nothing too Do with them! The Man gave Years of Honorable Service! Should Never have to pay back One Dime! What is wrong with these people!

@ladywithclasscarpenter1143

Жыл бұрын

Carl Allen • I agree 💯 I commented earlier before seeing yours.

@sarabrant723

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion after 1 year 2 years even 5 years if you haven't caught your mistake that's your problem not someone else's. I don't care if it happened under the last Administration or this guy's this is absolutely disgusting! How he sleeps at night I have no idea.

@home4life505

Жыл бұрын

Lawyers cost too much. That's the problem.

What a virtuous man. I bet the people that oversee these accounts get a big paycheck that goes unchecked.

These graphics are top notch. Shoutout to the reporter for their work and anyone else (if any) who assisted

These Administrators of the State need to be PUT IN JAIL !!! and then sued for wrongful death.

WHY did they pay anything back..this was a "mistake" NOT on their part and took way to long to figure it out..I am sorry I would have been on every news station,every magazine and I would NOT have paid..the GREED in this country is worse and worse every day!

@RonaldWilliams-qh7zc

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm saying there's no way in hell I would pay them back if I know that it was a mistake on their part yeah

@carolnewlands8630

Жыл бұрын

@@RonaldWilliams-qh7zc Plus I would sue them for the death of my husband..I am telling you some hotshot lawyer would handle this case no charge!!

@RonaldWilliams-qh7zc

Жыл бұрын

@@carolnewlands8630 👍👍

@mikecarlton9000

Жыл бұрын

Damn right.

@Unchainedful

Жыл бұрын

When you owe a debt to the government, your funds are automatically garnished. Any direct deposit is automatically taken out to pay the debt. The only way for her to get money would be to accept cash only, but if the state and IRS finds out she hasn’t been paying taxes or her debt with the cash then she’ll have to deal with both the state and the federal government. And in case people didn’t know the IRS has the right to sell your property to get you out of debt, it happens many times where the IRS will sell their house they owned for generations to pay a debt owed. We army soldiers deal with this debt crap almost every damn pay check where we get overpaid and then we get a debt that we pay back.

This is wickedness that debt should have been forgiven. That man died worrying about his debt.

This breaks my heart and makes me furious at the same time 😡

There is no way this should be legally allowed😤😡

We gotta watch the government because many of their employees don't know what they're doing

@Metkafu888

Жыл бұрын

Exactly a bunch of idiots who can't do basic math

@michaelmartin8337

Жыл бұрын

B-b-but DEI😢😢

@LilBrownieD

Жыл бұрын

​@@michaelmartin8337racist assumption, come onn

@crystaladams3972

Жыл бұрын

True

I moved to NC from Illinois. In Illinois there are no taxes on pensions, but here in NC I have to pay taxes on my pension. Really unfair in my opinion.

@rockon8174

Жыл бұрын

So leave NC!!! You can relocate and take your pension with you!

@SunshineFL

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there are states where the pension is not taxed

@SunshineFL

Жыл бұрын

Fortunately, there are some states that don't charge taxes on retirement income of any kind: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming.

@coffeecup3177

Жыл бұрын

@@SunshineFL Mississippi has a state income tax but I believe pensions, ira/401k and Social Security are exempt. Similar to IL.

@rememberselfcare

Жыл бұрын

How could they not know they were being overpaid? I'm quite sure they were surprised by the amt or thought it was more than they thought it should be. I think the debt should be forgiven. I just don't understand how they didn't know it was an error.

This is completely horrible! I can’t believe that NC would do this.

Hire a Lawyer , sue the City

There is no way for anyone to find out they're being overpaid. As the video shows the state had been saying for years the amount was correct. Who else would have any idea? The way retirement amounts are calculated are too complex for outsiders to rely on.

@freethinkinmelanin6795

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Wow😮😮 They should hv gotten a lawyer. Sounds like crooks trying to cover there self from wrong doings.

I retired early from teaching in North Carolina. The pension process is so unbelievably complex and confusing that ultimately you simply give up trying to calculate using their formulas and just fold to whatever the state says. I have no idea how they calculate my tiny pension check and don't get me started on the bizarre insurance coverage. My heart goes out to this lady.

I received a check every month from the VA for 5 years. I got a notice in the mail that my disability check should have never been approved. The next day I received a bill in the mail from the VA. I owe the VA 80 thousand dollars. The sum of 5 years of receiving the checks. I will be dead before the bill will be paid. I payed a big price for serving my country.

The people in the government is so money hungry and heartless at times. This story is so heartbreaking. May this man rest in peace and his wife gets justice. Life is so unfair at time It’s extremely sad they had to pay for someone else errors smdh.

How terrible!!! They made the mistake but they wanted their money back but if they shorted THEM, they wouldn’t have even bothered paying that poor couple back!

@chinaarlene7035

Жыл бұрын

Yup!

The state was supposed to take that as a LOSS since they made this error not go after the elderly like a debt collector 😣 #protecttheelders

Peak North Carolina government right here. The entire state is broken. And yet people are moving here thinking it wont happen to them.

Laws should have the debt taken out of the workers and their supervisors paychecks who created and approved this amount of errors.

All construction workers deserve a break, it's very hard work.

@coffeecup3177

Жыл бұрын

secretaries, janitors , and accountants don't work hard?

@hikingwiththedog6078

Жыл бұрын

@@coffeecup3177 I don't think the person meant other people don't work hard, the people you mentioned work very hard.

@toddaulner5393

Жыл бұрын

​@@coffeecup3177 not really.

@geraldboykin6159

Жыл бұрын

20 year man become 40 quick! That back goes out...

This is a disgusting behavior by American state

They need to sue the state. They need a class action lawsuit

Many people would know when payments are not correct but many do not. When the state tells them it is correct then this one is on the state and some a attorney should step up and take this case pro-bono. The state’s behavior is despicable, cruel, and down right evil!!!!!!!!! This woman is clearly unable to pay this back. If new legislation is required to make this right then the politicians should get off their rears and make this right. We all need to earnestly prayer this woman!!!!!!!

Heartbreaking, unfathomable!

I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for....

@Amelia-Elizabeth

8 ай бұрын

@rachealhubert74 That's actually quite impressive, I could use some Info on your FA, I am looking to make a change on my finances this year as well

It’s extremely unfair 😕

She should get a lawyer, there is no way for them to check accuracy. 17 years incorrect amount. This is disgusting, took the money for his funeral, absolutely not OK.

They know what they are doing. The State Department can then try to access or steal a person's home or assets based on THEIR MISTAKES.

@jestan01

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking. It seams it’s a ploy to take their home later in life.

This is a wild story man… and without no admission of fault or guilt they report it like it was the man’s fault the whole time… he died trying to live the life he thought he survived smh!

This is a disgrace… The state is so irresponsible with their spending and their money management… These poor people…😢