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@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

RogerPierre the rafale was doubt of course cause their is a radar on it but the weapons like mica do not. The mica ng will

@KarthikSoun

3 жыл бұрын

I accept about the Gripen, without BAE and GE the Gripen wont exist.

Shssh! You can't tell people the French don't always surrender or run away. Americans won't know what to think!

@Karl-Benny

3 жыл бұрын

Rafael is the Best as long as you dont mention the Gripen

@citoyendumonde9083

3 жыл бұрын

@@Karl-Benny If you don't even know it's name is "Rafale" and not "Rafael", why would we listen to you?

@TheLoxapac

2 жыл бұрын

@@Karl-Benny it is not comparable. The Rafale is way, way better at almost everything, but also way more expensive. The grippen is nice for its cost and weight, and is good to operate from expedient airfields. It is an excellent choice too for small countries. By the way... Rafale = burst of wind , or burst of bullets from a machinegun. It is not Rafael.

@sosobel5843

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLoxapac yeah Rafale is a monster but the Gripen is very good for its price : Brazil had the choice between the Gripen and the Rafale and they chose Gripen cause Gripen was enough lol

@TheLoxapac

Жыл бұрын

@@sosobel5843 Yes that's a good choice. Very capable and cost effective airplaine. In south america it makes sense and i think Brazil made a good choice with the Grippen. (Unlike Switzerland with the F35...)

This aircraft is good, ok. But, man, it is also gorgeous.

Thank you for your amazing videos. Being French, I’m certainly biased with the Rafale (amongst every single other topic...) but I think that the first minutes of this second episode say it all about this masterpiece of an aircraft. Omnirole. Autonomous. Spectra. So, many people have complained about the cost of the whole project, and the cost of every single Rafale, but I think that they don’t realise how much a pair of Rafales can do, and that we simply couldn’t afford not to have them.

@jamesfallon9758

4 жыл бұрын

Here in India also there were lot of political issues emerged on Cost Factor. But Indian Airforce Force & Gov. was absolutely sure about what masterpiece they are purchasing. Thanks for the wonderful 36 Rafales. I hope it will get selected in 114 mmrca of IAF & 57 mrca of Indian Navy tenders as well.

@zeljkoljiljak7256

3 жыл бұрын

Tell us something about money that Sarcosi get from Gaddafi. Lucky Sarcosi, now he can keep the money. At least that is what I heard. Is it a true?

@fabiena1787

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeljkoljiljak7256 I don’t know the truth of the matter. But here is a fact: Gaddafi was invited in France right after Sarkozy was elected president. And that was odd (...) Now, the inquiry seems far from being over, with witnesses changing their minds, and so on. If you’ve got anything solid, I guess that French justice would be happy to hear you ;-) anyway, a trial will probably take place at some point on this specific matter. So I cannot tell you if this is true or not at this point.

@zeljkoljiljak7256

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabiena1787 it would be nice to hear Gaddafi's side of story. Anyway, his visit was strange. There is some smoke but we're not sure is there a fire. And unfortunately, I don't know anything more about that.

@fabiena1787

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeljkoljiljak7256 I agree. At the time, there were negociations about the Bulgarian nurses who were held hostages, and this visit (the guy was given outstanding and very disturbing honours) could have been seen as a part of the deal leading to their freeing (which Sarkozy obtained by the way). Yet, all of this was shady, and depending on where you stand, politically, in France, you will lean towards one version or the other... As I wrote, the investigation is undergoing. If you want have some fun, you could check on a man named Claude Guéant, and how he came to get odd amounts of money for paintings he said he sold for his own benefits. It is related. The same guy was found to have lived for ten years without having used his own bank accounts for his expanses. This is still a mystery, and one could guess that lots of cash would have been of some help in making such a strange living...

This is an évidence that a good fourth generation plane could be a better plane than a bad fifth generation one but don't tell this to LM......

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

I will keep my mouth shut 🤣

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

What Is 5th gen ? please get the USAF's definition, you will then understand the rafale is 5th. the only problem is currently the rafale's stealth vs AESA is no existant will be fixed soon. then against a multispectral radar network, the RCS of the rafale need to be lowered of the active cancellation to work properly (specially the load), on the other hand the F35 needs to develop an active system to counter the said radar. Rafale and F35 have what the other need. If need Dassault has developed the DEDIRA stealth kit so the rafale is good very long time.

@MonMalthias

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeanvaljean9293 5th Generation is an arbitrary American specification that does not mean anything and merely puts together a set of requirements stemming from the ATF project some 40 years ago. These requirements were products of their time, and indeed a whole _human_ generation (30 years) has passed during that period. Why people still consider "generational" classifications of aircraft to still be relevant is idiotic. The Americans wanted an aircraft that could supercruise to catch up with Soviet bombers (now no longer a real threat). They wanted an aircraft that could penetrate Soviet IADS to fight Soviet fighters above their own airfields, hence the stealth. (a battlefield scenario that no air force commander would ever risk unless he knew he had already won) They wanted an aircraft that could engage and destroy Soviet fighters at some ludicrous kill ratio, even in the dogfight, hence the supermaneuverability. (In dogfights, particularly as the number of participants exceeds 1:1, exchange ratios increasingly trend down 1:1 regardless of technological or skill superiority). Put simply, these "requirements" no longer exist and indeed, while they are nice to have, the battlefield of today frankly revolves around imperialist countries stomping third world countries into the dirt. You don't need a stealth fighter to penetrate a non-existant IADS or fight other fast jets. And if major state-on-state warfare did erupt, nuclear weapons would render conventional forces useless. So let's call stealth fighters what they really are: a vanity project with no deterrent ability, and that which most of the time winds up employing million dollar smart weapons against insurgents driving $1000 Toyota Hiluxes.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@MonMalthias Agreed but even with that looking at the US definition the F35 doesn't have hyermanouvrability nor super cruse. If you look at it the rafale checks more boxes then the F35. And yet the F35 goes above the 5th in connectivity and sensor fusion (if it works as intended).

@konfunable

4 жыл бұрын

@@MonMalthias Seeing Turkish - Russsian clash over Idlib shows that your thinking is 10 years old. With China emerging, conventional warfare is back on the table.

Hi 8.20 You say the Rafale has two sensors, the Radar and the OSEF camera, but it is not really exact. There is also a radar monitoring and listening device, a laser screening detector. The merge system can also take data from any other source. The Rafales always fly with 2 IR mica missiles at the wing sides. It is the minimum configuration (even for air-ground with 6 gbu bombs and 3 tank) And the fox 2 Mica IR missile has the same core as the Mica EM missile, (Although with a lower range a Am 120 b/C/D, it is still a core of Fox 3 missile, which goes very far) Its missiles therefore have a powerful infrared sensor. To be able to follow the target at realy large distant. The sensor of missile stay open and in warning in the wing... It's can point and scan all the sky in various positions as do the eyes of a chameleon. Of course this is less powerful than the OSEF in the noze, but this points in another direction and that considerably extending the angle of vision. Missile sensor head rotates almost 90 ° of angle. (I think is 88° but I not sure) This is 2 Another powerfull detectors. It's also possible to merge all tactical information from an Awac or other planes by the link 16 network. The Rafale can fire a Fox 3 without needing to lighting up they target with the radar. Im not sure, but I think, the F22 can not do that, and this fonction should be added on the F35 but far in time. But this technologie are operative in the first Standart (F1 for the Rafale) 20 years ago. Sharing all the sensors of the combat group is the very essence of the Rafale concept. for exemple :: A Rafale pilot fired and shot down a target behind him with an IR Mica. The target was locked by his wingman behind him. A world first. With the Rafale Plateforme, you cannot speak aboat aircraft sensors, but you need to speak aboat the group sensors. Because some will have designiation or surveillance pods (same damocles) and share their all data. All like OSEF cameras and IR missile heads, evry pod, evry laser detector, or Awak and naval and sol information are merged and shared for all groupe of Rafale. Best regards

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information!

RBE2 is PESA and AESA. the single link is explain by the French tactics until now, a two way date link will come with the F4 in order to create a network within the weapons of the rafale. A secure directional MADL like is also planed for the F4 and a satellite connection as well, allowing multispectral (IR only) targeting system, allowing the use of mica without using the telemeter, full passive. rumor : the rafale uses spectra's electronic on the chuffs to create an equal solution to the towed decoy. An throwable decoy demonstrator exist LEA. The fr gov and Dassault publicly talked about the radar having a radar signature of a sparrow back in 2014 (with out mentioning active stealth of course). It's not currently working against AESA but a fixe is in the work of the F4. THE best explanation of the rafale ever ! congrats !

@lordtemplar9274

4 жыл бұрын

FYI - Rafale is equiped with Israeli Rafael X-Guard towed decoy for the Indian Air Force, not on French planes though AFAIK - Rafale has satellite antenna (SATCOM) since F3R you can see the "shark fin" antenna on the back behind the cockpit - Rafale has fully integrated Meteor with two way datalink since F3R. Just some bullshit made up by Typhoon fanboys that has spread like wildfire on internet, but never any source or explanation on why Rafale would be unable to do that. France is part owner of MBDA and one of the developpers of Meteor missile, it makes no sense they would not utilize the full capability of Meteor. Especially since they spent lots of money to integrate the missile on the Rafale F3R standard, which is more advanced than Typhoon or Gripen, ie Rafale software has 10 million lines of code (F35 only has 8 million) Furthermore the AD4A seeker on Meteor is based on Thales MICA and ASTER seeker. In fact Meteor on Rafale is more effective than on Typhoon since it benefits from superior detection capability and targeting data from AESA radar as opposed to Typhoon's PESA. Also the data can be sent from another Rafale (ie not the one carrying the missile). Datalink mid course updates are also available on MICA, especially usefull for MICA EM since those would typically be used at longer ranges than MICA IR.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordtemplar9274 - Indian specification are specific so I'm not talking about it, France will put the LEA, DRFM lunch much better then towed. - A civilian SATCOM is on a few rafale since 2015, it's not part of the F3R. A real military war SATCOM will be part of the F4. what you are talking about was an emergency demand and a tech try. Will never be allowed in a symmetric war. - the data link, france didn't care about the 2 ways, the mica have just one but the meteor have two more communality with the europeans. They are not currently used, they will be and the MICA NG as the HAMMER will get it as well. - sources on the rafale's software ? i remember it to be 1.5 million (but I could be wrong). - both meteor and aster are based on the mica em and the futur MICA GN seeker will go on the meteor and possibly in EM and IR. the ASTER 3 NT1 will work in ku band. the next sept is in the twister program. - Gathering the data on l16 for targeting purposes was part of tragedac that is the key system in the multi static IR and radar but nothing to do with two way data link. the AdA was never interested in what the seeker of a mica or meteor would be 15km a head, the radar is supposed to see even further. The current idea is to create a network / multi static using the plane and the missile's sensors to achieve better situation awareness.

@piotrd.4850

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordtemplar9274 In terms of lines of code it makes sense only comparing the same programming language and ... actually, the fewer LoC (Lines of Code) THE BETTER.

@lemmer89

2 жыл бұрын

@@piotrd.4850 ... few lines of code can also mean fewer functionnality. Only if Rafale and F35 source code was public could we check code efficiency and so on

Very impressive aircraft. Also one of the most beautiful.

When some aircraft manufacturers make publicity spots, some make wars...

Please reduce the volume of the intro so as to not tear your eardrums when you have headphones on.

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

Adjusting the music is turning out something tormentingly difficult. It sounds radically different in each system and I don't know why. I will keep your comment in mind.

@cj_singhh

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Thanks!

Hands down, my favorite of your videos. That said, i like 95% of your content

Fantastic quality quality video, thank you

Dear Millenium 7, you have given me more than 4 big knowledges today (I have been binge watching a number of your episodes starting with the Deltawing and fore-wing - Canards). This is bigger than the first time I saw the Gripen go backwards in the air (I have it on video - 1992) where the canards did the major work. I think this is the reason why he crasched - but using this manovearbility the right way would really maker dogfighting - or flarefighting a bit more entertaining... Best // Olov

Great video. Thanks

One of my coworkers worked on the rafale's simulators more specifically simulation the data fusion and priorization for example which source to prioritize if a target was Link16'd by multiple planes. About active stealth, in electromagnetism in school i saw that to electromagnetic radiations could cancel one another however to me it seems very hard to put in practice against an AESA radar.

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

This is very interesting, do you have any reference or material tha could be shared?

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

It's very hard to make it confusion against a AESA radar but this radar cannot use all the frequencies at the same time (the radar would jam itself), so the modularity of the radar has some limits. Thales the radar maker of the rafale and jammer are aware of the problem, has well as extra frequency radar and are fixing it, on the F4. They first wanted to had computing power of the rafale's jammer but it seems they found new simpler more effective calculation methods. hardware changer will increase the filed on frequency of the jammer with GaN tech.

@piotrd.4850

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech "active stealth" is - not to put finer point on it - bullshit. Spectra is just advanced EW suite, but no magic here. If you "theoretically" cancel wave at one point, you actually reinforce it in many others. Basic propagation. Also: unless your calculations and emission takes _literally_ zero time, echo you have generated will arrive at illuminating radar return with some delay. Therefore, such radar will likely ignore it (in more sophisitcated post processing, identify it as jammer and act accordingly). Basically, not only AESA radar, but any modern radar with semblance of digital signal processing, will be strirred by it. Also, note that emmiting sophisticated, radar like signals by aircraft can lead to what plagued B-1 EW system: some of this will get reflected from terrain back to aircraft, recognized as new radars, jammed.... you see where this is going, right?

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

RogerPierre hardly jammable because lpi but at the same time thales is now making spectra capable to jam aesa radars. Its a question of computer power, number of modules (thats where the gan is so much better then gaan) and algorithms (soon ia). So of course it is jammable that is also why the irst always confirms the pesa and will soon be needed to confirm the aesa. Listen MY plane is the rafale any day of the week but right now the gripen has an advantage GaN and an electronic attack pod thats all i’m saying. May be the computing power and algorithms are still enough to face anything that flies today (at least i hope so). But still we’ll have to wait 10 years to get those 2 (except for spectra that will get GaN in a few years with the f4).

*Rafale's SPECTRA makes it next to invincible* *Welcome to the Indian Air Force fighter family* *India love France* ❤

@szenith4975

4 жыл бұрын

Jf 17 is ready to shoot them out.

@greenglitch1390

4 жыл бұрын

@@szenith4975 ur another Chinese servent

@szenith4975

4 жыл бұрын

@@greenglitch1390 ur israeli servent.

@MrBravo143

4 жыл бұрын

@@szenith4975 you mean Junk Fighter 17?? The only Chinese made thing really worked is Corona Viruses.

@jsthereforfun1648

4 жыл бұрын

@@szenith4975 you think jf 17 can shoot Rafale It is just a copy of cancelled Mig 33 project of Russia and a weird combination of F16 it can't even stand against Tejas India's indigenous aircraft

This channel is a gem

Australia is in a similar situation to France although that may seem surprising, we need one aircraft type that can do multiple tasks without necessarily having any support at all. Plus we need two engines and a long range. Yet we buy the F-35 which ensures that we will have to rely on the US for additional support, the F-35 is a one trick pony.

When you don't have infinite ressources like the US military, you learn to use what you got to the fullest, and get creative when you don't have the ideal tool for the job.

The best of the viedos I have seen on your channel is at @12:50 as you recreate the spirit ro mind of afrench fighter pilots. Quite good.

Thank You Sir for sharing and Introduction this Topics of Technologie.

Great video

An impressive and beautyfull plane! I really like that they have keept the colour in thier markings instead of a low visabillity grey.

The Rafale: 4th generation aircraft, which outclasses almost all 5th generation aircraft. Which, thanks to the F5 standard which is coming soon, as well as the F6 and F7 standards which are in the drawers of the French Air Force and the Dga, the Rafale is therefore approaching the 6th generation aircraft.

Very interesting to see a different way to meet the requirements of the new battle field. I had no idea the start of that war happened like that, we always see the cruise missile stuff followed by some kind of carpet bombing in the news. So information integrating AND making it easy for the pilot to understand is the way to go then.

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

It is interesting indeed. There are many ways to skin a cat ...

@jay1st1st

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre well, does not keep radio waves from bouncing back to the radar antenna i guess

@unepintade

4 жыл бұрын

@@jay1st1st well yes, it's even better, they know it's there but they can't do anything to it !

They should be able to differentiate by different bells and whistles in the pilots helmet. Furthermore, missiles shpuld have their own type of chaff and flare depending on the type of missile, IR or radat guided.

Suggestion: put a link to part 1 in the part 2 description.😃

Perfect

Dear Sir, Greetings!! Love you for the content of your videos and I really appreciate the ground work done behind the scenes.your videos are really educative and are easy for combat aviation understanding. I have 3 questions or say scenarios.... 1. Can Rafale be matched with capabilities of F-35 .... leaving stealth behind? 2. As india is working rigorously for AMCA as 5.5gen indigenous stealth Aircraft....can some fusion of capabilities of Rafale can be done with it OR it might be of help if India develop AMCA with France as french are a bit ahead in EW then USA as you mentioned in this video of part2. Kindly advise as I am eagerly waiting for your reply. Regards,

@eshankulkarni2843

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, USA are way ahead in EW. He was talking about data fusion which is now in the F-35

This has been a very informative video about the Rafale, nicely done. Will we see a similarly in depth take on the Rafales "brother", the Eurofighter Typhoon? It would be interesting to have that comparison

@Millennium7HistoryTech

Жыл бұрын

It is in the pipeline. Just be patient because it is not imminent.

Awesome video, like quoted material not found anywhere else. I now like the rafale despite it's slightly weaker kinematic performance to the eurofighter and f16 block 60/70. I think its a much needed force projector for the Indian airforce.

@tiber64

Жыл бұрын

The eurofighter is also a good aircraft and even if it is inferior to Rafale as multirole fighter it is a good interceptor

Our defence procurement office here in Switzerland is currently evaluating 4 aircrafts to replace the F-18, the Rafale being one of them. Let's hope they choose wisely, without too much political interference.

@Tetemovies4

4 жыл бұрын

I believe they already chose the gripen a few years ago, a lot of the report was released and the rafale was rated the highest in most domains but at the time French president Sarkozy very publicly placed switzerland on a list of essentially tax heavens they had to take actions against, dooming any chance for a deal (ultimatly it's the government, not the army that has the final word).

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

You can download the leaked final report from the internet. The Rafale turned out the best performing platform, the Gripen the cheapest. I put my money on the cheapest...

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@Tetemovies4 the gripen is out this time and from the start.

@jimc1654

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech The cheapest to buy is the f-35. Also Gripen is no longer in the switzerland evaluation. Saab was not able to get it Gripen E for testing.

@piotrd.4850

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Switzerland doesn't need long range ground attack aircraft, but maintainable thing for air policing. Gripen is basically talior made for them.

ello Millenium 7 (Sorry don't know your name already...), You're probably the best fighter jet chanel on you tube and it's too bad for people unable to understand English. Your programms are the most complete and interactive and for an American program (as far as I guess it is: I don"t know your original background as where you lived before US according to your accent) It's probably also the most neutral point of view about the abilities of others countries aircrafts than US (a lot of you tube American Chanel are pro lockeed or boeing and so on and they sound really not objective ) . Your information about Rafale's ability to perform thru enemy air defense system in Lybia is better than what I heard on French night 20h tv info programms so congratulations and thank you for your honnesty. If it's not done already I suggest an idea of future you tube programms for Millenium 7: The professionnal Track from all the big fighter corporation foundators from today: as the Dassault Familly leaders are both dead we had on French tv a review of what those creator were made off : These people are Giants !!! (Marcel Dassault has created Dassault Twice in one life , from Scratch (Before and after second world war after German Domination on France) : His personne story is Fantastic despite France has not always deserved him !!! it's probably the same for US, Russia, England, Germany, Japan, Sweden: Will You talk about those Giants and who they had to fight in their own countries to prevail in Business ? regards from Disneyland Paris Alain

The Dassault Rafale is a wonderful plane, and the latest version is a contender in the Finnish Air Force HX programme to replace the F/A-18C/D. To be fair though, sensor fusion and datalinks are nothing new, FiAF:s HN fighters have a pretty interesting domestic version.

@maotyrias

Жыл бұрын

It has never been a contender, everyone knows Fins would buy US planes no matter what

Please review which plane will better for MMRCA program for India. Give your opinion.

I think u should make a video on Square nozzles and why are they so costly.

Will you have a part 3 covering the marine rafale ?

@Millennium7HistoryTech

Жыл бұрын

No, I don't think so. Sorry.

You forgot to show the serrated saw tooth Stealth feature that Rafale possess exactely like 5th gen stealth fighters. You can see them on the canard, bellow the fuselage, back on the wings, in the air inlets etc...

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

True, they are a particular point of interest that I did not mention in any detail.

@daytonadiavel2656

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech that's fine. You should maybe make a video on the story of stealth aircraft and also a story about RCS utility on modern warfare and so on. Inclueding the 5th and 4th gen fighters than possessed it. I Wonder if Rafale is not the stealthiest 4th gen fighter in service, since F-15 Silent Eagle is not yet in service or so..

You will make a comparison between Eurofighter and Rafale ?

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe a short one focusing on the operational concept rather than the technical differences. They look similar but they are rather different planes.

@abrahkadabra9501

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre Thanks for that link! 👍 Too bad the sales did not reflect the capabilities of this aircraft. Politics again!

@brodieboy3

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre with deference RP - things have likely changed respecting all the competitors since Dec 2009. Lots of advancements respecting all the jets - including the Rafale over the last 10 yrs.

@brodieboy3

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre agree that the consortium has held back Eurofighter development. Certainly, however, A2G capabilities have been added even to the Eurofighter and the Captor AESA radar is at least available & Germany now seems committed to buying additional jets with AESA radars and additional A2G capabilities to replace its Tornadoes. The EW version of the Eurofighter is, however, up in the air. Upgrades re the F35, Super Hornet & Gripen have not been as constrained & all appear to have added/ be adding additional capabilities on par, at least on paper, with the Rafale's Block/ Tranche 4 upgrades currently in the works. As you note, it will be interesting to see how the ongoing Finnish HX and Swiss competitions turn out though I think it's clear that political considerations often play an outsized role in the ultimate selection of a fighter.

@giuseppeguerrieri4946

4 жыл бұрын

With new upgrade both fighter are pretty equal, but I agree that the Rafale is a better omni-role but as always, for me, it's the pilot that make difference

Just delivered to India. Seeing how things are heating up with China on the border lately, things could get interesting

3:48 What is stealtish? Can someone please explain that to me =)

😂😂😂👍👍👍👍...WELL DONE BRO.. GOOD INFORMATION. LIKE WISE PLEASE GIVE US MORE DEATAILS ABOUT INDIAN DEFENCE NEWS CURRENTLY ON TALKING ABOUT MMRCA CONTEST FOR 114 FIGHTER FOR INDIAN AIR FORCE ALSO PLEASE CONTINUSELU UP LODE INDIAN DEFENCE NEWS WITH GOOD EXPLANATION LIKE WHICH YOU DID THIS VEDIO. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK...😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍✌✌✌✌

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I accept about the Gripen, there will be no Gripen without BAE and GE. You will have a partial airframe with no tires. They claim ownership for everything which is dishonest.

Is this not too sophisticated for IAF used to MIGs.

I never knew much about the Rafale, seems like a great aircraft, be a great platform for Ukraine or maybe the Gripen. If we ever get any F-16 they'll be old hand me down garbage that don't even have EW capability and a way higher RCS.

You said the Rafale shot down a plane, which plane exactly was it?

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

Probably a Soko Galeb

@oinossolo6219

4 жыл бұрын

The Lybian G-2 Galeb was violating the 'No fly zone' during the Lybian conflict and was detected by an AWACS. It was destroyed on the ground just after landing at the Misrata airbase by an AASM released from a Rafale. This is not counted as an air victory by the AdlA.

7:26 Windows tablet. :) Configuring Windows updates Do not turn off your computer

US cannot do it alone either

Vive le baguette!

Gripen E....

NO CREDIT TO THE IDF?

So true! Here the BBC footage: kzread.info/dash/bejne/loltt8p6qcexmaw.html

I want a delta wing jet fighter of my own...they seem to be in short supply:-(

@anands5661

Жыл бұрын

heh same here!!

the rafales is a 4th generation airplane

@Fabio-om4kb

4 жыл бұрын

oui et fière de l'être :D omnirole, combat proven, navalisé, fiable et disponible pas comme certain gen 5...

Love your encyclopedic knowledge of things aeronautic. Your videos Should ( but won't be a wake up call to USAF blue suits ) who tried to make the F35 into a Swiss army knife That is not very good at anything,. Huge egos and sunk costs prevent the USAF from throwing in the towel and starting over with specialized aircraft that are superior at their missions. The failed effort to turn the F111 into a universal fighter should have been a lesson. The skunk works way of quickly designing specialized aircraft that do not get to far ahead of technology the U2,P80, F104,SR 72and f117 are instructive examples of game changing planes that were created in short time frames. Did the USAF learn any thing from the F35 disaster? Only time will tell.

@andreabindolini7452

2 жыл бұрын

The problem I see with the F-35 is not that they tried to make a jack of all trades. The F-111 times are in the far past and technology has improved A LOT in the meanwhile. The problem I see is that, to make a convincily flexible machine, you must provide some space in it, for growth and for customization. You must make it big. The F-35, on the other hand, is probably a bit small.

Audio not 10/10 ...but all ok

This aircraft has not been tested in battle

This plane would spank a typhoon and gripen

@calgar42k

4 жыл бұрын

this plane spank anything that fly in the sky ^^. and please dont speak about f 35 and f 22 they both dont have a BVR missile !

@oxcart4172

4 жыл бұрын

@@calgar42k it helps that u can't detect those 2 until it's too late!

@calgar42k

4 жыл бұрын

​@@oxcart4172 that s pure US propaganda ! to be able to fire on a Rafale BVR you d first need a missile superior to the Meteor and you dont have that it s public knowledge Raytheon is struggling with the AIM 120 D and not just a little ! Secondly to get a fire resolution you d need to activate your radar at the very moment you d do that the Rafale would just have to press two buttons to send missiles at the F 35 or the F 22 And lastly it s more than probable that the Rafale would escape the said missiles and most likely the F 35 wont be able to do that due to inferior agility and overall better performance of Spectra to Jam incoming missiles !

@oxcart4172

4 жыл бұрын

@@calgar42k it was based on an article by a man who was on F-16s but now flies F-35s. Argue with him!

@calgar42k

4 жыл бұрын

@@oxcart4172 all day every day it s an US pilot , he says as ordered !

I heard you talk about stealthish design, data fusion, AESA, IRST and advanced datalink. But I think all of these are also featured on other 4+ generation fighters like Typhoon, Gripen, J-16, J-10c, etc. I get that Rafael is a very successful aircraft, but I don’t see why a combination of these traits makes it uniquely better than its competitors.

what accent is this ?

@unclejoeoakland

2 жыл бұрын

@@yusufn7467 no the narrating gentleman is a Milanese in Italy. His accent is Lombard.

@yusufn7467

2 жыл бұрын

@@unclejoeoakland Oh ok

Maybe Canada should get the Rafale.

@qanniqtuq

4 жыл бұрын

Dassault said no because the Canadian next plane need some 2 eyes special communication system to be compliant with NORAD and since it's US made well the US govt will veto the sale of those equipment (France is not part of the 2 or 5 eyes agreement).

@tulockthewerewolf9744

4 жыл бұрын

The best plane for canada would be the newly upgraded f15x

@qanniqtuq

4 жыл бұрын

They need a plane with an arrestor hook to operate on the Forward Operating Locations and other remote airfields with short runway.

@calgar42k

4 жыл бұрын

you would have spared a lot of money for a plane that actually delivers !

@abrahkadabra9501

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre It's a little more complicated than that but you have most of it correct. There's the problem of compatibility with the AFIC Tactical Data Link system that is shared with all the "5 Eyes" members. Also Canada does about 70% of its trade with the US and it is part of the US military supply chain. IMO Canada, Mexico and the US will become one free trade zone with a common currency (something like the EU) in order to better deal with the threat from China.

The French don't want to use that technique on a advanced enemy that is competent in the Air Defence role.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

Gar Whittaker just like the us uses luneburg lens on f35 and f22 not to give to much information. That goes for friends and foe. Secrets are secret

@scalpscalp2922

4 жыл бұрын

Is it why the Brits always stay in the backside these days? Lol

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@scalpscalp2922 please do not attack the brits like that they are our only serious ally in Europe, the scalp is a joint production, they just prolong chinook in Mali and so on. They like to posture (as much as we do) but they are hear when it counts. Give they hell when they do posture at our expense but here your talk is just cheap shoots. Please be smart !

Is it time for the french to build a stealth fighter?

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

The FCAS is expected to be stealth and, having France a lead role, we may say that they are already doing it.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

It's just active and not passive stealth, both are needed against multistasic radars, basically the rafale and F35 have what the other needs, the SU57 is also on the same path.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech ... I doubt the program will go very far, germans are too problematic, the MALE RPAS is already in big trouble.

@MonMalthias

4 жыл бұрын

With advancements in standoff weapons and multistatic radar, as well as ballooning costs of defense contracting, I think that the rationale for stealth fighters are diminishing every single day. Simply put, there is no more strong need to have an onboard pilot to make snap decisions over an airspace or battlefield, given how cheap drones have made dropping ordnance on target and how much risk they take away from the operator. So the capability of a fighter to both carry large amounts of ordnance as well as have snap decision making has been countered by the fact that drones are generally cheaper and easier to operate, and have less risk if shot down. On the other hand, the need for an IADS is increasing, and European and American armed forces have been neglecting this for years outside of their navies. Nap of the earth cruise missiles with stealth coatings, hypersonic weapons, and ballistic missiles, have reduced reaction times from hours to minutes, if not seconds. This calls for radar networks that extend not just across the surface but also dipping into valleys as well as looking over peaks so as to minimise blind spots, as well as multistatic radar that can get tracks on missiles that are stealthy. Frankly, stealth fighters are a romantic concept that tries to maintain the role of a pilot and his skill and autonomy in a time when automation and standoff weapons are eliminating that. And just like heavy cavalry that relied on a cavalryman and his horse, it would be just as antiquated and just as unreliable in a future conflict as the cavalry were against pike and shot. On the other hand, the need for AWACs or some other battlefield controller to integrate all of these assets are more important than ever. So perhaps the future of the stealth fighter is not as a replacement for frontline fighters in their current role as imagined, but as a mini AWACs, that is less vulnerable, and that is capable of snap decision making so as to avoid incoming missiles. These engineering requirements - survivability through stealth and agility, are directly counteracted by the needs to have massive radiating power and area for AWACs suites, so the FCAS concepts or F-35 "plans" to have them operate as drone directors and battlefield co-ordinators are frankly irreconcilable and may end up blowing out the budget for these projects from impossible specifications alone.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

@@MonMalthias Nop, to avoid multi static radar you will need a spectra like system. And that system works much better with a small RCS. SU57 is made to cut the connections and therefore will kill the networks (mutistatic radar as well). Only the F35 is a problem, because like F117, it's not a fighter ! the USAF knows it and accepts it but LM for exports reason keeps on calling it like that and of course the USAF let it. By is the F35 so bad ? because they tried to make the F35 compact for stealth and budget reasons except sacrificing the speed and manoeuvrability. then the 3 variant became more and more different driving the cost up. the program has failed in the fact that the F35 is actually 3 different planes with 3 time the R&D budget.

I looked for it and i saw that lybia didn't have a modern air defense systems, only old soviet relics, if u want to see the art of entering first then look to israeli pilots bombing with impunity in syria, you will have a good image

..most advanced delta wing....what about Gripen E?

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

There is a video about the Gripen but I will cover EW in part 2 (next week). However, it is a close call between the two.

@JorgenPersson-jo4sc

4 жыл бұрын

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Well I think Gripen has some strongpoints over Rafaele...one huge one is the avionics. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIOur5eGmKbaZ6Q.html ...which makes it's much easier for Gripen E to be ralavant over decades..... The other one is the flying cost.... stratpost.com/gripen-operational-cost-lowest-of-all-western-fighters-janes/ ...but then of course you have the AREXIS EW suite (only one built on latest GaN technology), saab.com/gripen/news/blog/gripen-blog/2019/gripens-mfs-ew-system-is-made-for-tomorrow/ data link www.flightcommagazine.com/single-post/2019/03/05/The-Gripen-data-link and the turnrate... www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/11/boeing-and-saab-are-making-fighter-that.html (P.S Gripen was also in Libya) theaviationgeekclub.com/former-swedish-air-force-flight-engineer-explains-how-the-saab-gripen-can-dogfight-and-win-against-almost-any-dissimilar-aircraft/amp/

@Millennium7HistoryTech

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the documentation, it is mostly known but it is a group of useful readings and I invite you to replicate the comment here kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYWspclrlpeYl8o.html where we are already talking about the Gripen. In term of comparisons, I am not a fan. Here we do not cheer for anyone, we just want to understand as much as possible. If the term challenged is "most advanced", I am open to confrontation but we should both agree on the definition of advanced and I am afraid most of the details that could move the gauge are well guarded secrets (at least for me).

@lordtemplar9274

4 жыл бұрын

Gripen E is not operational, it's work in progress. It is immature and not proven and that is why the Swiss removed Saab from their bid. Rafale is the most advanced of the Euro canards. Gripen does not even have an AESA radar yet. Rafale has had it for almost 10 years and been continuously improved over the years. F4.1 is coming starting in 2023, with also include GaN antennas for Spectra EW suite etc.... F4.2 in 2025, and then F5. There is a roadmap for Rafale evolution until 2040 when FCAS will entr service. So Rafale will continue to be modernized and always a step ahead of Gripen. Rafale is combat proven. Even vs S200 in Lybia and has done very well in exercise vs Slovakian S300 (S400 is just an upgraded version of the same design). The S300 could not get a lock on the Rafale. Rafale has also demonstrated its dogfighting capability vs Typhoon and F22 during exercises in Solenzara and ATLC2009. What has Gripen actually proved? Just a lot of talk, no actual missions or proven to reliably operate in real combat conditions (so operational costs and rates are to be taken with a pinch of salt). You say Gripen was in Lybia, that is so misleading it's laughable. Sweden did tourist flights after the battle. A Cessna could have done the same. All of Khadhaffi's air threats were decimated by the UK, US and France who were the only participatants in the actual combat phase in Lybia. Gripen E is not operational and just vaporware at this point. How effective are its systems is pure speculation on powerpoint presentation. Concerning EW, Arexis is primitive and an old EW design. It is very similar to the F18 Growler pods. A comparison would be to hide your footsteps by carrying a bullhorn to drown out the noise. The enemy is well aware of enemy presence and will scramble. Rafale EW is much more sophisticated and can do active cancellation so it remains discrete not alerting anyone of its presence.

@JorgenPersson-jo4sc

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordtemplar9274 Gripen E is much more advanced then current versions of Rafale. The first serial production Gripen E was made in december 2019 and Gripen E will be fully operational in 2020. saab.com/gripen/news/blog/gripen-blog/2019/first-serial-produced-swedish-gripen-e/ First you complain about that Gripen E isn't ready yet and then you talk about Rafale versions 4-20 years in the future? Are you serius? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Gripen E has the latest ASEA radar and IRST from Leonardo. AREXIS EW suite which is the only EW suite so far built on latest GaN technology and it's fully integrated with Gripen E not a pod. The pod is a very advanced EW jammer ATTACK unit which can protect an entire flight , group of planes. soff.se/medlemsnyhet/arexis-new-electronic-warfare-family-saab-saabgroup/ Gripen E's avionics is very easy to upgrade that's why SAAB doesn't have "upgrading steps" the same way as other fighters. You can upgrade computers and/or software from one day to another....and add features very easily. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIOur5eGmKbaZ6Q.html Gripen C killed both Thyphoons and F22 during Red Flags wargames. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lX-oksGGeMieks4.html What missions a fighter carries out depends on what the country allows. Sweden is not a member of NATO. You mean that Rafale is proven ? ..bombing Libya and shot down old russian fighters? .... :-))))

The GaA radar is old tech, the nose is small, the aerodynamics are draggy, giving a lot of penalty that could have been avoided. It's more of a fighter-bomber, as such not really optimal for air combat. A DSI intake would have been a far better solution than the complex s-duct that in the end leaves gaps which will reflect. The big wings will cause severe drag at low level maneuver. The costs make it the least competitive jet currently in production.

@sosobel5843

Жыл бұрын

220km range detection, 42 targets followed at the same time on ground or air with 8 in advanced follow : am I a joke to you ?

I aint buying it

Wow frenchy, there's a reason why other countries don't make videos given everything away about their weapons.

@jeanvaljean9293

4 жыл бұрын

the frenchy is ... Italian ...

@unclejoeoakland

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanvaljean9293 shhh don't tell him

Typhoon disagrees

DRDO : DEFENCE . RESEARCH . & DEVELOPMENT . ORGANISATION . HAS DEVELOPED A E/W SUIT ELECTRONIC . WARFARE . SUIT . WHICH IS FAR BETTER THAN RAFALE & ALSO DRDO HAS DEVELOPED A HOD & HMD & COMPUTER BASED COCKPIT CONTROL SYSTEM

I like your videos, but please take better care of your exterior! ;-)

In my opinion, Rafale is not the most advanced 4 gen combat aircraft. EF is, but Rafale has a really strong second place. Although European EF still lacks AESA radar it's radar capabilities still are better in many important areas. From a tactical point of view, fixed radar antenna and lower range of RBE2 (Rafale) is a bit of downside while compared to Captor (EF). In addition to that highly sophisticated Captor-E is already on the way to EU EF. As you already mentioned, Rafale lacks 2way datalink with Meteor which is surprising to me. Rafale also has probably less sophisticated IRST than EF, but it's not a shame since Pirate (EF) is considered to be the best out there. On defensive subsystem field, Rafale's SPECTRA doesn't give any advantage cause EF DASS capabilities are really similar apart from towed decoy lack in SPECTRA. Here I have to say that not AESA design of original Captor somewhat limits EF EW capabilities. On the other hand, EF has about half of Rafale RCS. I intentionally skipped some other characteristics due to their direct linkage to roles that both of these aircraft were designed to fulfil. Nonetheless, great video!!

@jomo3564

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@neage59

4 жыл бұрын

The Typhoon is absolutely not more advanced. The CAPTOR M has inferior capabilities is all areas, its range is around 160 km against 200 km for RBE2. CAPTOR M is a mechanical radar, so it's not versatile and is also more sensitive to electronic attack and easy to intercept by ELINT aircraft. When Typhoon will have CAPTOR E, Rafale will have an improved AESA. RAF doesn't want this radar and want to develop a new one. Rafale doesn't need a 2 ways datalink because of Spectra, the second way is only useful to know if the missile locked the target, so absolutely useless on Rafale. There is no difference between a METEOR used by Rafale and a METEOR used by Typhoon and Gripen. The current Rafale has no IRST on the OSF but a TV sensor, more useful to identigy taget than IRST. The IRST will be in service on the next upgrade and the TV sensor improved. So we can't know which IRST is better. DASS is only a defensive system. SPECTRA is a defensive and offensive EW suite that can do ELINT, SIGINT, active stealth, jamming, and passive detection and tracking, and uses all sensors do detect at longer range with an accuracy of 1°. To do the same job, Typhoon need a dedicated variant (Typhoon ECR). Typhoon has a RCS between 0.5 and 0.7 m², Rafale has a RCS of 0.1m² (lower when it uses active stealth). Rafale has far more stealth features than Typhoon. It has RAM, sawtooth, layer of gold, prononced S duct, radar absorbant paint, and engine with low IR and EM emissions. There is a reason why Typhoon was never able to do better than Rafale during technical evaluation (even when it had PESA radar) and was humiliated by Rafale in exercises.

@prathappoojary3618

4 жыл бұрын

Typhoon is just a costly junk

@jean-loupdesbordes4833

4 жыл бұрын

EF has a wing shorter than the other and needs airbreak and a chute to land it couldn't take off a carrier it's even a joke that England kept it's place in the developping team they are obliged to buy american junk to provide planes to their navy. EF is finally a non sens.

Again, Rafale has many fine qualities, including excellent sensors and a powerful EW system. But so do its competitors. Saab claims that the Gripen's EW suite is unmatched and there's no reason to suppose that Praetorian is inferior to SPECTRA. At one point Dassault was claiming Rafale was the first 6th Generation fighter. Let's ditch the silly claims and stick with the facts, which are impressive enough.

@lordtemplar9274

4 жыл бұрын

Lol Glenn. Praetorian is not EW and has no such capability. Clearly you do not understand what EW actually is. Pratetorian is a countermeasure suite (ie basic sensors for incoming missile warning alert, on screen info and deployment of flares, chaff and/or decoy based on the type of threat) nothing more - all modern planes do this. Spectra not only does this basic countermeasures task, but it also does EW on top of that. It can jam radars but more importantly can also do active cancellation to make it dissapear from enemy radar without the enemy ever being aware Firstly, current Gripen has no EW suite, it does not even have an AESA radar yet! So how you can claim its unmarched is astounding! Rafale has had AESA and EW for over a decade and been continuouly upgraded throughout the years! The Gripen E is not even operational, still in testing. Gripen E and EW capability is pure vapourware and great on a powerpoint presentation. Secondly the proposed/planned EW Arexis pod on Gripen E is nothing more than a pod like the F18 Growler carries. This is last century's version of EW, in fact the F18 Growler carries the same ALQ-99 / 218 electronic warfare system the EA 6B Prowler carried during the Vietnam War. I will try to explain since clearly you do not grasp the subject matter. These EW pods are like carrying a bullhorn to drown out the noise of your footsteps. The enemy will be alerted of enemy presence in the area and will scramble all means to jam you as well as actively search to pinpoint your exact location. Spectra is much more advanced, elegant and discrete than this blunt instrument since the enemy is unaware of your presence.

@glennridsdale577

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordtemplar9274 OMG. Where to begin? 1 Your claims about Praetorian are complete bollocks. 2 Your assertions about EW are also complete bollocks. 3. Your claims about Spectra are, amazingly enough, complete bollocks. 4 You apparently can't, or at least didn't, read: I specifically said that SAAB CLAIM that Gripen's EW suite is unmatched. That imaginary suite is actually widely respected and has performed very well at Red Flag on numerous occasions. Saab must be very good indeed to manage this with nothing moe than imagination. 5 I said NOTHING about legacy Gripen having an AESA. You seem to be confusing the idea of escort jammers with EW as a whole, which is a little surprising for such an expert with such a modest nom de plume. By all means be a fan of Rafale - it has many fine qualities, as I have stated repeatedly, but please spare us the embarrassing bullshit.

@lordtemplar9274

4 жыл бұрын

@@glennridsdale577 you are full of shit. 1. Praetorian has 0 EW capability, please provide evidence of this. It does exactly what i described. 2. Spectra can jam radars and can do active cancellation like this video says. Details are top secret, but this capability has been confirmed by both Thales and Dassault. www.defenceaviation.com/2012/02/thales-spectra-the-tactical-advantage-for-indian-air-force-pilots.html This is why Rafale was the only fighter to go in for first strike in Lybia not fearing Lybian air defences, like S200. Other planes (like Typhoon) had to wait for Tomahawks and Rafale to clear the AA threats During MACE XIII exercises in 2012 and MACE XIX in 2018, Spectra demonstrated its effectiveness vs Slovakian S300 air defences. Lol Spectra is well respected, even F35 fanboy sites begrudgingly recognize this. I suggest you read up and do some research because you clearly are ignorant on this topic. I bring explanations and facts and all you make are bullshit claims! If you wish to remain stupid and unaware that is your prerogative, now jog on

@glennridsdale577

4 жыл бұрын

@@lordtemplar9274 That's simplicity itself. On the other hand you won't be able to provide any reputable source describing Praetorian as anything other than an EW system. tangentlink.com/selex-praetorian-ew-deliveries-completed-to-european-customers/ www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/praetorian-2 www.janes.com/article/92058/eurodass-unveils-plan-for-new-typhoon-dass-ew-suite www.monch.com/mpg/news/ew-c4i-channel/5651-eurodass-typhoon.html www.indracompany.com/en/blogneo/next-generation-eurofighter-shield www.aviationtoday.com/2018/08/22/leonardo-cto-talks-future-avionics-vision-tempest/ Now go and crawl back under your fanboy stone and let the grown ups talk.

@glennridsdale577

4 жыл бұрын

@RogerPierre Another one who apparently cannot read, or perhaps it's just that French is your first language so the nuances of English pass you by. I DID NOT SAY that Gripen's EW system is a world leader. I merely told you about Saab's claim that it is, the point being that it is FAR FROM CLEAR that Spectra is in any way superior to other modern, integrated EW systems. And that's without even mentioning the various US and Israeli systems out there. Of course, if you can provide any solid evidence of Spectra's or Rafale's superiority I'd be thrilled to see it. And no, French pilots saying "Rafale est le meilleur" don't qualify.

That aircraft was a Solo Galeb trainer, still on the ground! Libyan air defences were a mixture of 1960s Soviet designed SAMs and fighters, all of which were hopelessly obsolete; and slightly more modern French systems, all of which SPECTRA could obviously jam with absolute confidence. Why did NATO destroy the LARAF's combat capacity? BECAUSE THAT WAS PRECISELY THE MANDATE GIVEN BY THE UN RESOLUTION. Your attempt to dress the campaign up as a demonstration of French superiority it really rather embarrassing. Almost as embarrassing as your attempt to co-opt Link 16 as somehow unique to Rafale, rather than the NATO standard system in use since the 1980s, let alone your implication that Rafale's data fusion is in some way unique.

Anyone that ever has owned a French car or other French mechanical thing, would never even think about flying a PLANE made by French engineers, they would rather deal with the devil himself. Strange French engineering guarantee only one thing - never ending problems.

@jojototo4566

3 жыл бұрын

Do you fly Boeing or Airbus ? CFM56 which are the most widely sold jet engines in the world are made by GE and Snecma which is a french company The two main countries involved in Airbus are France 11% and Germany 10.9% Eurocopter was mainly french ...Arianespace is a french company ...TGV trains Eurostar Thalys , Safran ,Thales are french companies etc... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFM_International_CFM56

@mangeshchalan8786

3 жыл бұрын

Have you heard about Bugatti?

@unclejoeoakland

2 жыл бұрын

@@mangeshchalan8786 the hideously expensive boutique toys of oil sheiks?

@almmax9194

2 жыл бұрын

Peugeot, Citroën world rally champion any time

@sosobel5843

Жыл бұрын

TGV fastest rail train of the world ?