As discussed in Richard Beard's new book "Sad Little Men".

@glynbarrett1961

2 жыл бұрын

just finished it. very good too. brought me here.

@mattbod

2 жыл бұрын

@@glynbarrett1961 Yes he nails it: the master race...not.

@legendaryjonblue

3 ай бұрын

I'm listening to the book now. It's an unnecessary title but I suppose it's the publishing equivalent of clickbait.

RIP Dennis Silk, 8 October 1931 - 19 June 2019

I'm watching this again 41 years since it first aired.

@tungstenkid2271

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Dennis is dead now and Goldy probably is too, and most of the kids will soon be grey-haired old farts by now (2021). PS- I was only a grammar school oik myself and hated the dump, half the teachers were peedos but we couldn't complain to the headmaster 'Hector' because he was their ringleader..Our history teacher in particular was totally out of control, he used to let his favourite little pupils sit on his lap during lessons, then squirm and writhe under them like a mechanical bull and they seemed to enjoy the ride..:)

19:05 A perfect speech, applicable not just to young boys but also to every human being, regardless of gender or age.

@hugoklaxkaiser2

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh... unless you are not a Christian.. i.e. the vast majority of humankind lol

Ahh, now the parents can get back to their lives. After all, kids are such a drag and responsibility. Not even a hug, from Daddy.

“Cultivate the habit of work”. Great line from the headmaster, I don’t care how much of a Trotsky bolshevik you are, that’s a great bit of advice.

@richardumfreville6914

3 жыл бұрын

Even if most work gets you little more than food and bus fare now

Ted Dexter was a famous alumnus of Radley, England cricket captain and later an England selector.

Gosh that brings back memories ... though, I went to a mixed school in 1979 ("progressive"). Still, there are some scenes that were exactly like my first day ...

P.S this series, without the romance, reminds me of such books as "The Loom of Youth" by Alec Waugh and "Lord Dismiss Us" by Michael Campbell and "Now and Then" by William Corlett. You would think those books are parody reading them but they are not. The latter is particularly yet softly scathing....

The late Dennis Silk had a delightful tone to his voice. He was right to point out the importance of all the little details and getting into the habit of acquiring and doing these things. If you aspire to be a gentleman then you have to commit to these things without objection. As always it is in your own hands with regard to the person you become; and so it is important to take personal responsibility for that; otherwise what is the point of attending a public school.

I thought the headmasters talk to the new boys in the chapel just about perfect. If there were any qualms about the quality, nature or intent of life at this school then they were put to rest here. A man with a perfect set of values for the possition he is in. The boys are most fortuate to have arrived at a good place with a good leader.

@Kkpb-fh5vt

9 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. I'm 31 and have done ok in life. But I wanted to be one of those boys, starting out. They'll do great.

@mikee758

9 жыл бұрын

Hi, for me also the series has tended to put that word 'privileged' into perspective. I see young guys and folks too who are from an early age prepard to pay a hell of a price and make an awful lot of sacrifice to grow up and make the best of themselves and get somewhere in life. So if if they are privilged in life to do that, well that is what they are doing. I couldnt wish guys like this enough frankly but most of all hope they ended up rich on the inside 'happy' Lol.

@mikee758

8 жыл бұрын

+THthefirst Hi, well you gave me a chance to come back and enjoy another look. Im surprised you thought that, religiously heavy, my impression is, extremely well balanced, I cant see how a strong emphasis in regard to how the boys treat each other and ones regard for others is, indoctrination, I think that we cant be reminded of this principle too often in life. The boys are being given this from a man who so obviously practices what he is advocating. 😊

@anonb4632

7 жыл бұрын

THthefirst But you're okay with every single other form of indoctrination they get as long as it isn't religious.

@majidktk5988

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Manners jbbh

+mpking1374.. Do you mean as in the weather? Or barmy as in slightly crazy?

I'm a teacher and this looks fine to me. These kids are learning the value of discipline and hard work. The values they learn here will never leave them. Good work boys.

@Zwia.

Жыл бұрын

It's not so much what they'll learn, it's who they will meet. That's the reason these schools exist, to make connections for their later lives with other members of the establishment. They give each other jobs, investment, positions, and titles and thus they continue to run most areas of the country like they have done for hundreds of years.

@Kkpb-fh5vt

Жыл бұрын

@@Zwia. All true and I work in a school like this. But that’s not linked to his talk here.

Also such thing make a school ahead of the other because they do the right work rather than the easy or fast or strong one. Usually the right work need real work, while all the other kind of work don't.

Do we know who does the commentary? He's not mentioned in the credits. Sounded a bit like the voice-over in 'The Secret War' series filmed in 1977 but I don't think he is the same.

@katemiddleton9777

9 жыл бұрын

+Humphrey Reader I think it might be Richard Denton who made the series

@hreader

9 жыл бұрын

+Kate Middleton Very many thanks for that - I'm afraid I've got one of those pernickety minds which likes detail! I rather liked the voice and was curious as to whom it belonged.

@richarddenton7724

7 жыл бұрын

Yes it was Richard Denton - otherwise known as "me" It was however largely written for me by my brilliant executive producer Roger Mills

@jonathansubritzky5272

7 жыл бұрын

Wow, in the flesh! May I ask who was the headmaster depicted in this film? The man who addressed the assembly and who spoke to the new boys in the chapel. Many thanks

@katemiddleton9777

7 жыл бұрын

The headmaster or "Warden" was Dennis Silk. if you put his name into Google you will find a wiki entry about him. Hope that helps

3:10 that speech reminds me of a sketch from monty python, the meaning of life

Went to an evil all girl school this looks a lot better

"You'll be scumming for Rowntree, oik !"

@caligula9287

9 жыл бұрын

"Run! Run in the corridor!"

@ABC_DEF

2 жыл бұрын

"Silence in the sweat room!"

@douglasbell6433

2 жыл бұрын

"You're a degenerate, Travis!"

"You vile boy, you're late!"

Fast forward to Silk in the chapel

Interesting to contrast this programme with the 1977 Panorama programme about a London comprehensive school.

@bgkukumba6653

3 жыл бұрын

What's that called?

@bgkukumba6653

3 жыл бұрын

Whats that called ?

@edmundpower1250

3 жыл бұрын

@@bgkukumba6653 he ain't telling ya

@bgkukumba6653

3 жыл бұрын

@@edmundpower1250 it's the worlds best kept secret

@Kkpb-fh5vt

3 жыл бұрын

Secret information

Hi Kate what's it like being a princess?

"Eh say, you chaps! Stig alert, we'll soon put the snivelling little spiv in his place!

@Del-yv1qy

3 жыл бұрын

chipo.

@Del-yv1qy

3 жыл бұрын

Go and get laid for yourself.

The oldest boys here are over 60 now!

Wow, this is nothing like Zoey 101.

Clearly these schools provided (to what extent they have changed remains up for debate) boys with a classical, 'all-round education' which a state school, even a independent day school could never provide. As much as certain people take the moral highground and state 'I would never send my kids to one of these places', chances are, if you could afford to, you would likely at the very least consider it

@alanwoodall7174

2 жыл бұрын

I can afford to, easily, and never would.

this school costs so much money that I thought it was private. so if a public school can cost that much then how much would be a private school?

@jamieashley3868

5 жыл бұрын

public schools are private schools

@Kkpb-fh5vt

4 жыл бұрын

It’s weird in the UK. Public schools and private schools are the same thing. State schools are the free ones.

@janbayart2250

Жыл бұрын

"Public" schools are so called because they replaced teachers who were domestic servants to the parents whose children they taught and who were living in their homes. These "public" schools are private institutions accessible to all who can afford the fees but that is only a small segment of the public.

We had a monthly report card at my wretched grammar school (Alderman Newtons, Leicester, c 1960) and if you were in the bottom two or three of the "league table" you had to report to the heads office for a caning (i was a regular visitor), and not a single one of the teachers ever tried to help us or encourage us to do better, what a dump..:)

@ArshadKhan-vk4kj

2 жыл бұрын

Some of my teachers studied there

Did anyone notice the headmasters Masonic handshake at the very begining of the video?

@flashtin166

9 жыл бұрын

How can you tell? All I could see was a handshake.

@kanebanner

9 жыл бұрын

flashtin166 Its when both people touch second knuckle with the thumb.

@zico739

2 жыл бұрын

No but I’m not a nutjob.

The Mother's gave a very cold good bye to the son's that they would not see for the next few months. Cold an unloving,

@NibsNiven

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to apostrophize a word that ends in "s". Clearly your education was sub par.

I went to public school and proud of it.So there.

@jamestheposh

3 жыл бұрын

Hear, hear!

@kamandi1362

3 жыл бұрын

Well, bully for you!

@Del-yv1qy

3 жыл бұрын

@@kamandi1362 yep

Stuck up yet negligent parents

Interesting

Sad Little Men

Separated from their brothers and sisters

“I’m not saying we will coerce you into any particular beliefs...but this school stands for the Christian beliefs...” That kind of means that you’re going to get coerced, I would think.

@mikemanners1069

5 жыл бұрын

Like Atheists don't coerce anyone into "any particular beliefs"....ask the residents of Stalin's gulags or Mao's Labour camps if they were "coerced"......

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Manners Athiests dont have any particular world view at all. They simply don’t believe in a supernatural deity. Being an atheist says nothing about your political or social views. Also, Stalin was a dogmatist. Just like religious followers.

@spamface5162

3 жыл бұрын

They don't force you to adopt Christian religion, just the values like hard-work, thrift, family etc.

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

3 жыл бұрын

@@spamface5162 when did Jesus ever support family life? He said to leave your family and your sisters and brothers and follow him and have no care for the morrow. The bible also condones slavery, homophobia and treating women as second class citizens. Hardly good moral values.

@spamface5162

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Obviously there are bad parts but ultimately Protestant values help enrich people to become better people. By following the Bible's teachings on how to be virtuous, I believe one can benefit enormously. I'm not a Christian so the Jesus point is moot.

Mikee, I have no idea what you are talking about. I just disappointed for the gentleman who stood and talked about a public problem like if they were the parliament members but rather they were pupils. That was completely out of norm because he could embrace the subject with out an explicit news about it. For example, how important to do well and act well, the consequence and rewards for great people. Discipline is the opposite, and so on.

Posh care - institutionalising your children

I went to public school in the 80s and 90s and was glad to put the cliquey and oppressive atmosphere behind me to be honest though I was on an assisted place which I am very grateful for. It turned me into a bit of a leftie in actual fact( and no I am not a loser but successful in my career though I haven't got a Range Rover....damn!) Some boys from these schools become leaders other are leaders at school and never reach such power again in the real world and resent it like that ghastly Andrew Mitchell MP.

Radley was Peter Cook's old alma mater. It's remarkable how many satirists have emerged from the English public school system, perhaps taking the archaic, outdated, po-faced nonsense that is inculcated in these places as their inspiration. I wonder how many viewers picked up Silk's candid quiet comment later in the film that the system wasn't actually fair. He meant the amount of money that goes into these places while the state system is starved. And are the public schoolboys at the top echelons of the Tory party really a good representation of these schools?

@catalanadventure1433

2 жыл бұрын

It is true about the satirists. I was at school with Ian Hislop and Nick Newman of Private Eye and Spitting Image fame, you don't get much more edgy satire than those two.

11:30 is the typical British stiff upper lip attitude that won the war

hogwarts

Drinking and driving

Stig of the Dump!!

That form teacher is balmy.

@Clissoldkid

5 жыл бұрын

If you'd gone to public school you'd know that it's spelt `barmy'. Just sayin' ...

@edmundpower1250

3 жыл бұрын

@@Clissoldkid 😂😂😂

God that headmaster is creepy.

I’m not sure Irish Republicans would agree with the head's summation of Airey Neave. But of course this was filmed in 1979.

@michaelweaver7898

2 жыл бұрын

Airey Neave fought the Nazis. The IRA were pro nazi and deeply anti Semitic.

And get some work done,,, cringe!

100% white

@jasonsmith1158

Ай бұрын

it’s the BEST WAY to

@davidc4408

Ай бұрын

@@jasonsmith1158 east Asians often do well

Ruggers and buggers and bestiality!

@Del-yv1qy

3 жыл бұрын

You chip on the shoulder low life.

The warden knows nothing about Christianity. Love thy neighbour isn’t the second or any other of the Ten Commandments.

@ABC_DEF

2 жыл бұрын

You are right. It was a surprising mistake from the headmaster of a Christian school.

@kristypattimore8710

2 жыл бұрын

Look up Matthew 22: 34-40. When Jesus was asked which was the most important commandment he said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c](AA) 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d](AB) 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”(AC) So it's the 2nd commandment in terms of the ones Jesus said were the most important.