This god damn flu refuses to let go, very annoying. In the commentary today I focus heavily on the utility of one single perk, as it's one I've called game-changing since its release. Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz

@Compcube

5 жыл бұрын

Flumu?

@taterkaze9428

5 жыл бұрын

Your vids are always useful, this one is well above average.

@tobiasmembrane5294

5 жыл бұрын

must have been a flaflu

@jirving24

5 жыл бұрын

Flamu, this a great vid. I do not have this perk on any of my captains. BUT I have to say it's mainly because YOU don't really recommend it's use on many of your captain builds. (which I follow vigorously and believe are the best recommendations on the net!!) SO, what's up??? Where would this perk fit in on the priority order in a build?

@dawid8844

5 жыл бұрын

You need to move, you're always ill!

14:17 "torps from the *enemy* shima". Flamu and his crusade against potato teammates continues.

16:03 calls a Monarch a Lion. Jingles effect confirmed.

@EvilTimNum666

5 жыл бұрын

If Flamu starts talking with a British accent, I'll really start to worry! :)

@Slysheen

5 жыл бұрын

We need him to start trying to mimic the Jingles laugh,

@camerong.5989

5 жыл бұрын

that would be hilarious. must be done at least once

well we know at least where 3 of those dislikes came from...

@grimmshredsanguinus2915

5 жыл бұрын

not from those dds perhaps kappa

First video back after a short break and Flamu apologises for not posting and then goes on to provide more in depth commentary on a game mechanic/perk and how it can be very useful to your DD performance. Follows up with game examples for visualisation and shows how it can be used in a variety of situations. You can tell there is effort put into this video and you can tell that he is trying to improve the overall skill of our player base. As always demonstrating the true definition of a community contributor... earning that title as always, thanks!

I watch these videos and it just makes me realize how much i suck at this game. Love the vids and the attempt to help us get better. thank you for posting them.

Well, I just quadrupled my torpedo boat assassin skills that I've been trying to level up on, in the last two years. Thanks Mate.

You're always sick! Take some freaking vitamins! I've spent years hearing peeps down on RPF on the official forums. I've always used it with great success, so it never really bothered me that those that have no clue say its bad. The more peeps think it isnt good, it's better for me!

I was just about to spend 4 captain points on my Minotaur and your vid convinced me, thank you. Two games thus far: the first was on the same map as your Shimakaze example, in the same position, so it was an easy first lesson (though sadly a loss). The second game was an absolute dream, with RDF/RL playing a significant role in terms of information for my team (3 kills, we stomped the reds).

Thank you for the explanation of RPF. Didn't know what it actually do until now. I am so going to use this feature.

Even though I am a relatively new player (started playing around first of September this year) I have already found Radio Location very useful especially with my Gearing torpedoes and just in general for situational awareness. You just have to learn what it does and how to utilize it. Very VERY USEFUL!

Ah yes RPF told folks when it came it was OP. No one believed me. Run RPF on all of my DD's and several of my cruisers and BB's. Players just do not understand just how much information this skill gives you. Sure you have to be a little bit of a detective, but as you showed in this video it's not that hard to do.. its really not. Well done sir!

@kuroyasha1692

5 жыл бұрын

Time for me to get another high level commander. Since my current 19 point is on harugumo

6 torp hits - 6 kills. That's perfection

Holy moly, I didn't realise it did this, thank you so much for pointing this out. :)

2:34 "He ends up eating my Tops and I get a double strike. This is on the NA Server." Flamu is there something you want to tell us :D?

@TobiasL1000

5 жыл бұрын

I also didn’t get it. Are the NA players not as good as the rest of the world?

@jojodivas9211

5 жыл бұрын

TR-8R not as bad as SEA server as I am in SEA server I suppose.

@Arun-sd4mh

5 жыл бұрын

Jojo Divas SEA is just toobad...German BB is unplayable in SEA since everyone scared to push while German needs to brawl

@jojodivas9211

5 жыл бұрын

Kiel ML though I’m grinding the german bb line lul. I’m at FDG now, need 240k ish more xp to get the GK. Gonna be one of those players that is willing to push on the SEA server.

@Arun-sd4mh

5 жыл бұрын

Jojo Divas im in my Bayern...im also in SEA haven't unlocked other tree yet

Great vid Flamu thank you!

Very nice instructional video. More like this, please.

I wish every DD had at least the same knowledge or desire to counter enemy DDs, not to mention skills or brain... Flamu you are awesome! Great video :)

Thanks Flamu, and get well soon... Looking at the Radio Location text in the perk list, it has always looked like one of those "situationally useful" skills that I have never been sure would be worth prioritizing ahead of some of the others. The way you describe it here, though, it is something that gives you a ton of clues about the enemy team, if you are willing to think about them and turn them into useful information :-) Now working to get the points for RL... With all the high tier ships which have radar, hydro, and probably the increase in carrier players we will see with the new CV playstyle, I think RL will become my first priority among the top ranked perks (for me, working through the mid-tier DDs, that first priority has been the Concealment Expert).

It’s taken me nearly a year to get the hang of RPF but it’s become so useful - even if I still have lots to learn.

First off, this was an excellent video displaying the potential impact of Radio Location on the average game. Flamu, well done, sir! Especially with Clan battles beginning again soon, this is very timely. Secondly, however, Radio Location is a Commander Skill, not a perk. Commander skill. It's only one syllable, you can say it. Skill. Thanks for all of the dedication you've put into the WoWS community and most importantly, thank you for sharing your knowledge, Flamu!

Your skill level is magnificent.

I find rpf very useful, and there are certainly some cruisers I use it on, an Atago with a speed flag in ranked can make a very good dd hunter due to the higher percentage of slower IJN dds that tend to get played. Well you be doing a breakdown for the Ranked Sprint and pros and cons of the ships. Be useful for newer players who may not have played this knd of competition and really thought about what makes a good ship in a particular branch and how to optimise selection. Thanks for the vids keep posting when able and I'll keep watching :)

I love this skill so much. Have it on my Gearing, Z-52, and now the Jervis. It's just too good on DDs!

I often counter use RPF all the time, knowing that I am the closest enemy to the holder, I can predict where they will strike especially if I'm a DD myself. I use the surrounding terrain to tell me if they're wanting to flank me out or just hide in open waters. I'm so tempted to use the perk, but have not found a spot to do so... unless of course I use IJN DDs c: I haven't worked on that line yet, and I'm still unsure about what perks to choose for it since I'm so used to playing Gunboat DDs due to the soviet lines. This video is a big help in how I could potentially use that perk too or plan out the build.

I agree with you. It can be of great help, especially looking for that last ship on enemy team. Unfortunately, a lot of players think it's a waste of captain picks.

I need help as I have no idea what directional arrow to look at or its location. I have radio direction indicator as a commander skill on some of my ships but have no idea where it is on the screen?

That shima starting to fire his guns is at the same level of annoyance as a carrier dropping on a ship you launched torps at.

Masterpiece video Flámu

Good job sir!

The main problem with radio location is that it also works in reverse due to the "located" warning. When the located tag flips from one friendly to another, you know precisely how far away the RPF user is - just draw a line between you and the other friendly ship, then visualize a triangle with that line as the base. The RPF user is at the tip of the triangle.

A must have on shima nowdays.

flamu is finally back from is flumu and phlegmu hiatus

@la_potat6065

5 жыл бұрын

Flu-mu better hehe.

Got so used to it now, that I get it on all my dds, so usefull.

Radio Location is a subtle, but potentially powerful tool. You can even use it effectively on some lower tier cruisers, particularly if they are manueverable, have Hydoaccoustic search, have decent to good DPM and therefore are already a threat to destroyers. With RL these ships become really nasty DD hunters late in the game and can be used to ambush other cruisers as well. I use it on the Phoenix, Omaha and Duca d'Aosta.

@Flamu, can we expect an update to the perk guide from (almost) 2 years ago? I know you try to add some tips for new ships being introduced, although there were quite a lot of changes/lines (french BB?) that seemed to be ommited.

Hye there Flamu!, a new relatively fan of yours here, i really enjoyed your vids for how educational they are. I was hoping that you could do a video on the Republique. I really want to know how to play that ship as she is a difference beast from the Alsace. I would also like to know your thoughts on crew skills and equipment

Fantastic explanation! Thank very much. So, what would be your captain skills for the Gearing/Shima, in order?

Fantastic explanation! Thanks very much. So, what would be your captain skills for the Gearing/Shima, in order? Would it be the 14th point skill, after Concealment?

Does anyone know the REFRESH time/interval of Radio Location for the closest ship? E.g. how fast it updates the location when it has the bearing on a specific ship? I've found that when it switches target it does this instantly but updating the bearing on the same target seems to be around 20s...

@Lahnapihvi

5 жыл бұрын

It is constantly updating, but it doesn't point at the ship, it points at the map grid the ship is currently in. That's why it sometimes jumps sharply.

I had no idea this perk was rarely taken, I couldn't imagine playing without all the extra info. At least as a stealthy torpedo boat, I feel that my job is to relay information and scout/cap while creating walls of pressure.

I was surprised to see this title. I remember when this perk was on test, DD players were worried that it would be too powerful for exactly the reasons shown in this video. It's like a crude radar that's always on.

torp the same 5km area multiple times -> get 3 kills seems legit :) nice video!

I know old post but this seems like it would be just as valuable to Cruiser DD hunters? Or does hydro with detection alert make it unnecessary?

Would love to know what ships you recommend for RPF. Didn’t really talk about what you should take it on.

Holy you are too good

@Flamu, Would you still pick RPF for the Daring over IFHE? Im curious to what you opinion is. I have tried to weigh pros and cons and it comes out even, unless you recommend a total different capt skill load out for Daring?

Can we get a monthly "Here is what not to do" video from Flamu? Love all your vids, but would love to learn from your mistakes.

I love the RDF perk, uses it on all my DDs and even some cruisers.

Damn... flamu in a DD = force of nature!

Any chance RPF can fit into a Henri IV build? Seems like it may be useful for late game DD hunting and when you are alone on a flank.

Exactly this. People say this perk is fine, situational, or even useless and wonder why they cant past rank 5. Here I am sitting at 65% w/r in ranked with DDs abusing the living hell out of rpf. Wait until you see what gremys use RPF to chase down and kill Kimakaze teams in mini ranked.

Random question: Does the tier 10 premium camo ever go on sale?

My IJN CA’s are all built with Radio Location in mind. Between their high concealment and devastating HE shells they make it much easier to locate and shoot enemy DD’s.

Finding it useful on the RN DDs. Trying to compensate for their being slow by always being in the right place.

it's quite good on the Zao too

Brilliant vid on using RPF especially using it aggressively (which I'm not so good at it). Talking about people messing up your torp drops, CV's are often guilty of this. CV's can see your torps closing in on a target they decide to torpedo drop them and the target dodges those torps and therefore yours that have a 2min reload... Sigh. Thankfully less of an issue now with less CV's being played but still happens at times.

Hello Flamu. If you don't mind, allow me to request a video like this which would show why you pick Vigilance or Basics of Survivability on your BB captains. I'm slowly beginning to lean towards that option, even on my ultra-slow rudder ships. Could you present why you consider +25% to torpedo detection range more viable than -15% to fire duration? Thx.

For some reason (watching too much Flambass) I have been learning DD play on the Pan-Asian line. I use RPF a lot, especially since I cannot engage other DDs in torpedo fights.

What Knotch are you talking about? Are you looking at the white arc? What is the indicator of this Radio Locator?

So I'm not sure if you'll see this question, but I'll ask anyway. It seems like RPF is most useful in fighting other dds or avoiding radar cruisers hunting you. Because of this, which DDs would you recomend NOT to use RPF on? Or do you think rpf is simply a solid choice for every dd?

Enjoyed Radio Location Commentary. Impressive utilization of commander skill as primary assist in destroyer torpedo targeting. My one general question to Flamu would be as following: 1. How does Flamu go about obtaining video clips for your commentaries? Are they selected from archival footage after theme of broadcast is determined? Are the clips prospectively created after X number of games once a broadcast theme is selected? The reason for my query is basically to attempt to balance in my mind (and other people minds) the impressive results achieved in those clips with real life consistent results achieved by Flamu (acknowledged as superior player) and the real life benefit of Radio Location as a 4 point commander skill. How consistently does radio location benefit the player as opposed to 4 points of skills which would otherwise be utilized instead of radio location. How often during game play does radio location result in some or all of the results appearing in the video clips, where ships that are unspotted are successfully torpedoed or otherwise engaged utilizing radio location as a primary assist. - Klebs (AK) P.S. - Enjoy your commentaries. Quality stuff.

@maximillicon1166

5 жыл бұрын

Freaking awesome comment...but I am afraid the majority will stay gullible.

Great vid and very timely. I have made extensive use of RPF since your Gearing vid where it's value was on display. I want to use it even more, and would like to know if there are DD's where you do not use RPF. I am currently undecided about using it on gunboat DD's and am curious as to your opinion. So what DD's show a significant drop in the value of RPF? Thanks for another highly informative video Flamu, and I hope your health stays as solid as your game. Das Bat

@kuroyasha1692

5 жыл бұрын

One would probably be Harugumo. Since it can't really afford it.

Flamu, can you make a list of viable DD builds with RPF ? I don't think there will be that many ... Shima works the same with a 10-14 point captain as it does with 19 points, Gearing does not really need AFT, so the 4 points can be saved. However with the recent change to the Grozovoi, you have 2 must-have 3 points skills and are somewhat limited by your build options. Z-52 I have no clue, I am at Z-23 atm and a fairly low-level captain.

I've had radio on my molotov for some time. The rail guns make it an impressive dd hunter.

You forgot to mention a thing about RPF. If you use it in conjunction with ANOTHER ship using RPF, and both have the same ship close to them, you can calculate where the enemy is(because RPF gives EXACT location if looking through the middle of each bubble and finding where they intersect) and blindfire with very good precision and accuracy. Impractical, but possible if you are using things like voice chat.

Most people think Arrogance is a fault, and it is if you can't back it up. You Sir, have no problem backing it up, Your Arrogance is to be Commended.

Flamu "When you launch torps, the only one who is responsible for what those torps hits is you." "always, your fault..." Yes. If only more could understand that principle.

Seems very straighforward when you do it:) One question - from the enemy point of view, what is the counterplay?

"This is on the NA server" Aha, now it all makes sense.

Grand Master of tactics !!

I am at Z-46 and just one perk point away from this perk...

this perk needs a buff like tell u when dds are near and further detection of torpedos

Gearing build: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6erzcGQn7y6lbg.html Shimakaze build: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZ-D2aSiZ6WcmMo.html Happy hunting, y'all

I put it on my BB,s not long after it came out to keep some DD player from making a long ass flanking move and torping me...and not having a clue before that there was any danger// " or I could trust someone else to spot him"...need a smiley face here.

Since this perk was added to the game I've lost count of the kills with RPF guided torps

Slapped My Gearing torp captain to Nicholas to get ready for ranked Sprint. It has rpf on it and it overwhelmed The Field along with The 58sec reloading torps. Rpf Will Be very very usefull on The non radar seasons. As torping coming ships Will Be winning strategy along with sitting in smokes knowing If someone tries to jump you. But yea feel kinda scared without it If not equipped with radar or hydro. Jatka samaan malliin bro!

So do you drop IFHE for RL? Or do you try to get three tier 4 skills, dropping more consumables or fire chance? But seeing your luck, you don't need the fire chance anyway.... my gearing had troubles setting a Bismarck on fire ... after 120 shots I got 1 fire .... with improved fire chance.....

@fafniroth

5 жыл бұрын

You don't run IFHE on Gearing, it's useless at your tier and you're starved for points already.

@Lahnapihvi

5 жыл бұрын

The only DD's you want to run IFHE on are the IJN tier 8-9-10 gunboats, as well as possibly Jutland and Daring (which can get by thanks to their special AP). Even if you don't think RPF to be a good pick, the tier 3 skills (SE, TAE, BFT and DE) are more valuable than IFHE.

I don't have the Gearing, but during space battles I specced rpf on my space Gearing and have managed to kill enemy dds from 14km away

It is good on some BBs too. If you find a BB that just fine with turret traverse skill. It tells if something want to sneak around corners. Ofc not for BBs that only shelling from afar. And still may not useful early. But as the game losses players, this is precious. And btw, our great leader once said 'WG smoked quality weed when making this'. So it must be good guys.

so much skill. All I am thinking about when I am playing a DD is how my team is gonna find a way to blame the game on me

@kuroyasha1692

5 жыл бұрын

Understandable. Ya know, I once had a game in the Harugumo, and my team was like: CAP C STUPID NOOB HARU There was a Worcester and Minotaur in that cap. They took the cap, and my team continued flaming me. Fortunately, I later made a nice carry XD

@mjholding1

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Chan yea people have a brain but don’t always know how to use it, but you certainly did. Congratulations on your carry.

number of time i had torp hit based solely on that perk. hahaha

RPF is useless! Stop telling other players that it is useful. They might actually learn something! /s/ At the start of first Clan Wars season, I had RPF on my Z-52. My clan mates made fun of me. Two weeks later some of them had RPF on their cruisers.

@johnburgman9135

5 жыл бұрын

Whilst i don't have RPF yet, i can tell you it looks AMAZINGLY USEFUL. I have German DD's. I think it'd be easier to push knowing where the nearest guy is.

@rebol6497

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no more surprise butt fucks from the enemy dds sneaking behind :D

@juancarloslujan292

5 жыл бұрын

time for rpf yamato!

@Chris-kb5hf

5 жыл бұрын

I use it on almost all DDs, I feel naked without already. Even on some cruisers like Mogami, Nürnberg, Charles Martell, Zao etc. It's worth a lot for me.

@VuHien2011

5 жыл бұрын

SnuSnu _RIP, do you get it before concealment?

I am not sure I can get this clever with the radio location.

Hey Flammu..try this... IJN DD.. a Yugumo is a good choice. Run RPF, do NOT run concealment module, run TAM instead, and I personally suggest no smoke (TRB!) With TAM you can out spot just about anyone, and with RPF.. *snickers* you might enjoy! I'm an average player ( a little better then some with DD's) And I've had some amazing success with this set up.. so how would it do in the hands of a master player?

I wish I had such luck with my RPF torps. :)

How did the Shima in 5:30 got spotted? He is too far away and no plane/ other ship is right next to him...

@Lahnapihvi

5 жыл бұрын

He's shooting. You can see the splashes next to him.

I love RPF, use it all the time.

that Jingles moment

I got so much tilted by all dd's not using rpf in ranked ... this is just the most usefull perk of the game as dd, even more if they are smart enought to share position info, no doubt that's just a fact.

@Allessir1999

5 жыл бұрын

In clan..we have 3 that use it...we share bearing info...your now triangulated. And they don't know it...as it's passive and it only tells you your "located"...

@chipsterb4946

5 жыл бұрын

Shawn Brogdon - this is a good reason to have a Zao with RPF in addition to your DD. You can get the direction AND distance of the target. Sharing RPF info with teammates is almost half the value. Tell your BB buddies they are being flanked by a DD. Tell the radar cruisers which direction to point their guns before popping radar. So much useful information! It occurs to me that most players probably don’t understand when I type “RPF just flipped” after clicking on the minimap. Depending on the situation, that means either RPF is picking up a new target or the target is moving side to side in relation to me.

@Allessir1999

5 жыл бұрын

I just say "bearing shift", then they glance at my turrets...I've been training them. Sometimes when myself and my other DD skippers div up...(shima, gearing, and my yueyang...not only do we all run RDF...but you find yourself cross dropped on torps. You manuevered so the shima and gearing torps miss...then right into my DW pattern with your rudder all the way over

RPF- a hax, but not a hax, yet its a legal hax.

@ma6netho

5 жыл бұрын

wall hax, different wrapping

Haha, what a comeback after 5 days, these guys r still drawing chickenblood for the curse they gonna lay on you for this.

I have 4 free points and no real good options left to use it on the BB Cesare I am strongly considering this with the short torp ranges at that tier and How I have vigilance already. could be a dds worse nightmare the bb turns and hunts him instead. With sprint ranked coming up its very tempting.

Radio Location can be useful even on some cruisers too, at least I used it on my Arp Takao to sink a DD who spotted me. :) Not as effective as on DDs I think, but it can be fun.

A big reason RPF isn't more common is that most players aren't good enough to be able to use it, even if they can wrap their head around it.

its really up to you on how you want to play this game. firstly it looks simple just aim shoot and improve your shot and predictions. when you play it seriously, its like the autochess but you are just one of the chess piece but you have the influence on the whole game. you need think wise and think far.

Flamu - You sold me on RPF a couple years ago. Do you still feel as strongly about the strengths of RPF as when you made this video? I’ve been using it on T8-10 USN DDs and all IJN DDs except Akizuki and her big sisters. However, a quite good DD player has partly convinced me that I should reconsider some of these builds. Re-grinding Benson for the Research Bureau with IFHE instead of RPF was interesting and my win rate was 65% over 31 games. Our discussions have made me focus more on RPF, both when I’m using it and when I’m “located”. Very good players can and do use your RPF against you. I’ve typically spec’d ships based on most of the players, but this guy thinks building for the “apex player” is the way to go. What do you think? Also, do you think IFHE is worth considering for 120-139mm DD Guns?

Of course the relatively low damage done was because you were mostly focused on DDs that just don't have many HP to farm. Well done in the game and video.

That's for a 14 point captain and higher? Can't imagine going for Radio Location on a DD, over concealment on a 10 point captain.

well yes and no when it comes to torps, I mean ive had a few matches when some people deliberately turned and steered into all my torps, but I don't disagree that the punishment at the end would generally end up on your hands