Radeon RX 7900 G'RE' RE-RE-RE-'RE'VIEW

@diamonshade7484

2 ай бұрын

Let's go 😂

@mastoner573

2 ай бұрын

Where 7900 stands for the amount of re reviews

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

GRE = Gigantic amount of REviews

@nekogami87

2 ай бұрын

G being the 7th letter of the alphabet, probably 7 review in total, it all make sense ! [tinfoil hat off]

@InnuendoXP

2 ай бұрын

@@AndyViant Giga-REview, they ain't done yet

The 7900 GRE, the gift that keeps on giving.

@NeverSettleForMediocrity

2 ай бұрын

600 euro ? what a gift...

@nipa5961

2 ай бұрын

Best card this generation with this new driver and a little overclock.

@BlackParade01

2 ай бұрын

I would genuinely consider this card but I need an Nvidia card.....

@OnlyAnOpinion20

2 ай бұрын

@@NeverSettleForMediocrity 560 euro for a Sapphire pulse on Mindfactory, find me a card for that price offering this kind of performance??

@bulutcagdas1071

2 ай бұрын

@@NeverSettleForMediocrity I was half joking with the KZread channel, as Steve got to make, I believe 3 or 4 videos out of this card alone :D Price wise, it will ofcourse depend on your region but generally speaking the 7800 XT seems to be the sweet spot.

Can we all just acknowledge, how messed up the naming of this generation of cards are from both companies.

@Eleganttf2

2 ай бұрын

Indeed

@Birdman._.

2 ай бұрын

The difference between 4070 and 4070 super is bigger than the difference between rtx 3080 and rtx 3090 I doubt it's bad tho lmao

@decorator21

2 ай бұрын

Nope, it's not messed up. It's just corporate greed. 7800xt should be named 7800 (like 6800) 7900gre should be named 7800xt AMD pushed the core count down for a higher price. Same like Nvidia. I have 7800xt and sometimes this card is slower than 6800xt.

@vmafarah9473

2 ай бұрын

GRE- G0LDEN "RABID" EDITION 😆

@Peter.H.A.Petersen

2 ай бұрын

I don't give a s... about the names, they can call them whatever!. It's the prices that makes them bad value ...

Imagine this 550 dollars gpu overclocked is same performance as freaking 800 gpu in 4 k thats insane thats why overclock is sometimes worth it good video !!❤

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

Prices have fallen for 7900xt but yes it is quite a leap. Would be interested to see OC potential of 7900xt.

@12coco100

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Navi_xoo I have a 7900xt too. I'm curious on how much performance I could get outta this

@NeverSettleForMediocrity

2 ай бұрын

@@12coco100minimal you already saw the review

@vishalpal1200

2 ай бұрын

@@12coco100 You can check techpowerup review for your specific model. The sapphire pulse model gets around a 12% perf increase. Which would make it similar to a 4080 super in rasterization and within 10% of 7900 xtx. Still impressive I’d say considering it has dropped to around 700$

@abibirawa4119

2 ай бұрын

@@Navi_xoo maybe he meant the rtx 4070 ti super

I ordered the Sapphire Pure 7900 GRE yesterday. I was torn between this and the 7800 XT but I’m glad that I went with the GRE at $500.

@otakuchan3173

2 ай бұрын

same here bro.. I'm so happy I waited for the GRE, just $50 diff for huge perf gap.. I'm going for the Sapphire nitro + version

@xgearheart8592

2 ай бұрын

Where did y'all get it for 500$?

@devjitdutta5670

2 ай бұрын

@@otakuchan3173 I think the nitro plus will cost you a bit more than a standard one but the cooler on the nitro plus is just insane…..you won’t regret the purchase

@devjitdutta5670

2 ай бұрын

@@xgearheart8592 wait for some discounts…Microcenter frequently has discounts on their end but you won’t get the nitro plus or the hellhound at $500.

@roki977

2 ай бұрын

Pulse is not Nitro

I miss the times when AIBs could just give cards different memory chips, with 24 Gbps it would be a beast for a minor price premium.

@kawafahra

2 ай бұрын

RDNA3 is also massively more restricted BIOS wise. RDNA2 with Red Bios Tool would let you try anything. RDNA3, everything hardlocked, completely sealed from the getgo except for Wattman.

@vigilant_1934

2 ай бұрын

​@@kawafahraI wonder if it has to do with chiplet power consumption? RDNA 4 should be monolithic so maybe it'll have the same customization options as RDNA 2.

@filas312

2 ай бұрын

​@@vigilant_1934 more likely RDNA3 is locked down with crypto security for BIOS etc. so that AMD can show due dilligence with export lockdowns regards peformance etc.

Never underestimate the Radeon division's ability to shoot themselves in the foot...

@Hardware1906

2 ай бұрын

well, amd x3d cpu also shoot back at amd non 3d cpu in term of gaming performance, i guess amd shooting themselves is something common

@InnuendoXP

2 ай бұрын

@@Hardware1906 yeah but in the CPU market the DIY gaming market is a sideshow, and aside from the brief release of the 5600X3D, they aren't undercutting any of their own stack with the 3D Vcache models on price except for the high core count models which don't benefit gaming anyway.

@sinom

2 ай бұрын

​@@Hardware1906at least in that case the foot shooting is pro consumer though

@potatorigs2155

2 ай бұрын

So giving your more for your money if shooting themselves in the foot lol smh 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@@Hardware1906

@thestoicwhinger

2 ай бұрын

These copy paste comments are lame af

Can we just take a second to appreciate that the GRE is trading blows with the 4070ti in many cases? It's matching a card that costs 150usd more on average. (Which is a bit like the original 7900xtx vs 4080 situation but with a higher discrepancy in price percentage-wise)

@ZeroZingo

2 ай бұрын

Either compare stock to stock, or overclock to overclock...

@nipa5961

2 ай бұрын

It even ties the 4070TiS in 4k which is 280€ more expensive. The 7900GRE is by far the best card this generation now.

@geekmechanic1473

2 ай бұрын

​@@ZeroZingomy problem with oc is that some cards will do it better than others and as such not reliable

@ARealPain

2 ай бұрын

@@geekmechanic1473even then, with OCing, you gotta hit the silicon lottery. Not every 7900GRE will overclock the same. I remember when I was into OCing with the 2080ti and my buddy’s card would fall behind a little bit when we would do the same stuff.

@PineyJustice

2 ай бұрын

@@ARealPainEvery RDNA3 card I know of with my friends, as well as mine overclock very well, RDNA2 overclocks like a demon too. Second, this is memory overclocking, the 7900gre comes with the vram clocked very slow, getting it up to a way more reasonable speed is basically guaranteed overclocking

That does it, the 7900GRE with unlocked memory OC is THE best value on offer for mid to high end gaming shoppers, great sweet spot from AMD! Mind you the 7900XT is only 7 8% faster with the 7900GRE OC in mind, you can save alot of cash for a very close performer!

@otakuchan3173

2 ай бұрын

agree bro

@matheussantos9367

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, got mine for only $30 more than the 7800XT Nitro+, definitely a good deal

@leonro

2 ай бұрын

It depends a bit on how the 7800XT and 7900XT overclock, because comparing stock to overclock is pretty stupid. Still, they won't go nearly as high as the 7900GRE, given that this GPU uses the same VRAM chips but clocks them lower. I assume that the original Chinese launch used lower quality chips and AMD kept the clocks the same in order to not create yet another new SKU.

@Satou-Akira71

2 ай бұрын

I bought the 7800 XT Nitro+ some time ago. Now I'm sad that I didn't wait a bit longer, 7900 gre will pull ahead on 4K games that aren't bottlenecked by memory maybe 15-20% but 1440p and bellow its more like 10% if you compare Nitro+ models

@matheussantos9367

2 ай бұрын

@@leonro it’s a great card bro, no reason to be sad! Enjoy your rig!

Can't wait for the "2025 one year review of RX 7900 GRE" And the upcoming: *2028 looking back at RX 7900 GRE review "

@florianradu7750

25 күн бұрын

Yes, looking back on the 12GB buffer of the 4070 series, like nvidia destroyed the 3070 series.

AMD knew putting 20Gbps memories on the GRE would cannibalize the RX 7900XT

@flimermithrandir

2 ай бұрын

Yeah thats the really sad Thing i see as well. Many ppl are liking this because they can Overclock now and yes… thats cool i guess but like… the Issue really is that this was done by Design… and thats really not a great Thing. Its not as worse with just plainly not giving enough VRAM to begin with but its still kinda BS.

@leonro

2 ай бұрын

​@@flimermithrandirEh, it was standard practice in the past to release inferior variants of products that could get overclocked to a higher end part. Heck, back in the day, AMD's three core Phenoms could often have their disabled 4th core unlocked via software. I don't see this as a bad thing.

@potatorigs2155

2 ай бұрын

the xt ans xtx have a lot of headroom@@flimermithrandir And most people will not oc their cards

@skilletpan5674

2 ай бұрын

​@@flimermithrandirit wasn't made for the western market. The GRE is a chinese domestic market product. Asian markets are highly dollar consious. Even $10 to $50 price difference can influence buying decisions. Also the import issues/bans from the USA influenced the card. The other reason is this is clearly a card that has throwaway/defective/subpar chips in it. It's better for AMD and the consumer to be given a cheaper alternative to the 7900XT than not.

@tuckerhiggins4336

2 ай бұрын

Not enough of them exist for that to be true

It's so weird to me that they limited the GDDR6 speed to 18Gbps out of the box, when all GDDR6 chips today easily hit 20Gbps

@petrkubena

2 ай бұрын

price. even memory chips are being binned. they could've easily bought some not-quite good enough memory chips for very low price and used them for this product. after all this is that kind of product made of (highend) scraps.

@stevenwest1494

2 ай бұрын

All the rumours are pointing at RDNA 4, using only GDDR6, and not even 6X. I think AMD are just doing what comes naturally to them and holding the hammer by the head and wondering why the handle hits so poorly.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat

2 ай бұрын

Especially given that this GPU is limited by memory bandwidth. Should have used 20Gbps or better out of the box for optimal performance.

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

4060 Ti does the same thing. No clue why, maybe they deemed the performance too high with 20gbps.

@bulutcagdas1071

2 ай бұрын

@@stevenwest1494 lmao

The hightlighted result bars are such a great quality of life. Good stuff!

IT IS NECESSARY TO POINT OUT that there are multiple reports of 7900GRE not handling memory speed over 2400MHz (mine included), despite memory chips being specced at 2500MHz, so YMMV. This might be a good question to ask AMD whether they binned the Navi chips based on Mem Controller quality or not.

@olereimers4623

2 ай бұрын

im pushing 2540mhz on mine now. a Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE NITRO+. have not had time to try and push i farther. also running undervolt on it at 950mV

@MyHeIl

2 ай бұрын

Yup. I have Sapphire Pulse, and after 2414MHz it becomes highly unstable, resulting in PC restarts and game freeze. No matter what I do (lowering core clock, undervolt). Cross the 2414MHz and my card is done. The adrenaline safe VRAM test indicates that the safe OC is 2390MHz, and the card is fine when using that speed.

@NootNoot.

2 ай бұрын

What card do you have? Some are reporting not being able to OC much due to Samsung memory vs Hynix

@flipntap09

2 ай бұрын

set mine at 2590mhz and it averages at 2577mhz. Anymore than that, any game and benchmarking tools crashes. Hellhound gre

@filas312

2 ай бұрын

@@NootNoot. Steel Legend from AsRock, I'll look for chip name in GPU-Z later. According to TPU Review, Samsung is also specced ar 2500MHz but I cannot set over 2400...

Made my day since I ordered one this weekend in anticipation of the fix!

In my country it's pretty much the same price as 7800xt, I didn't know the 7900gre existed 😮

Great work! Thanks for the quality content

the re-re-re-review

@DarkNia64

2 ай бұрын

Conspiracy theory: AMD intentionally held back performance on this thing, knowing a post-launch performance patch would garner more attention.

@smugmode

2 ай бұрын

​@@DarkNia64yeah I think something fishy, but it's hard to complain now when I'm beating 4070 Ti Super in Time Spy thanks to the new drivers

@DarkNia64

2 ай бұрын

@@smugmode How's the power consumption with that new update?

@smugmode

2 ай бұрын

@@DarkNia64 305W constant, I've recorded about 400W peak. It runs fine at max power even with my dual fan AsRock Challenger, ~70C core and ~82C mem (60% fan speed, side panel off)

@DarkNia64

2 ай бұрын

@smugmode Damn! The performance is certainly impressive, but I wonder how much more efficient it would run with, say, a 10% clock speed reduction. I run my 6900xt underclocked simply because it nearly cuts the power draw in half. Out of the box, at 2524MHz, it sits at ~290W, but a slight undervolt and capping the clock to 2250MHz reduces the power draw to a comfy ~160W!

I think it could be interesting to see the difference between the 7800 xt and 7900 gre when memory bandwidth normalized (I.e., both with 20gbps memory), seeing as they both have 256bit bus.

Thanks to the video, I ordered Powercolor Hellhound RX 7900 GRE OC for my wife yesterday! I'm so excited for it to arrive!

Thanks for the update Steve, hope you had a good vacation. I think the GRE is the most interesting card in the "mid-range" segment so I appreciate this video a lot.

Thanks for the amazing graphics, everything is clear without translation👍

Should have had the memory bandwidth higher and called it the 7800 XTX or 7850 XT.

Question......what is the power draw after the overclock?

@WENEVERLEFT

2 ай бұрын

powerdraw after memclock usually not as big as, when you OC GPU.

@skyryudo311

2 ай бұрын

​@@WENEVERLEFTyeah but I guess you probably need to uplift the card to 15% for the oc to be stable right ? I have no idea actually how stable it would be with no power limit enabled. So I guess at worst 300w ish max

@Petch85

2 ай бұрын

Probably close to 330W. If you hit the limit you can reduce the voltage and gain a little more performance.

@Petch85

2 ай бұрын

​@@WENEVERLEFTjust to be clear, he also OCed the core clock.

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

about 300w depending on the variant. Still seems a limit with the board. An undervolt to about 960mv will bring that down as low as about 260w, depending on which variant and your ticket in the silicon lottery.

As I've already said when the GRE was a niche OEM only product in the West: Best OC card this gen. The way it's built, it's a tinkerer's product. Now, in a perfect world, they would have ditched the GRE branding, given it 20 Gbps memory from the start, called it the 7900 without XT or 7800XTX and would probably have gotten much better reviews - but that's AMD doing AMD things, again. They just can't help shooting themselves in the foot over and over again.

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

This.

this card is in a sweet price performance point ... good to see this has gone global only thing which would have made it better would be 20gbps memory

@andrewcross5918

2 ай бұрын

Pretty sure the actual chips are 20gbps, they are just down rated for the stock config.

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewcross5918 4060 Ti is like this as well no clue why. If 4060 Ti had a 256 bit bus and the VRAM was set at it's rated speeds it would have been a great release ( albeit drawing more power ).

@manoftherainshorts9075

2 ай бұрын

AIB cards feature 20gbps memory modules.

@AH-video

2 ай бұрын

@@manoftherainshorts9075 this makes sense

@AH-video

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewcross5918 i don't doubt you on this but seems like bit of a own goal

I picked up the Steel Legend 7900 GRE... it's my 1st AMD card, I don't don't care for raytracing. I upgraded from a 3060ti 8gb & also wanted a white card for my all white build. I gotta say, I'm never gonna overlook other brands again, I'm in love with this card, especially paired with my AORUS fo48u. Me taking a chance on a different brand has definitely changed my perspective on future PC components.

@andersjjensen

2 ай бұрын

I switched 20 years ago and never "came back". All the negative crap comes from Nvidia users who need constant validation that they "made the right choice".

7800xt overclocked vs 7900 gre overclocked would be interesting

@user-xn7hw7we8g

2 ай бұрын

the 7800xt is pushed to the limit more than the gre, so when overclocked the 7800xt would probably only gain 4 percent

@roki977

2 ай бұрын

@@user-xn7hw7we8g 7800xt overclocks well esc Nitro or Red devil, over 10%

@kawafahra

2 ай бұрын

7800 XT has 60CUs, same as 6800 non XT. OC about base spec GRE. 6800 XTs has 72 Cus, OCs about the same as 7800 XT. The bigger chip makes up for the older architecture. 7900 GRE has 80CUs, which is the reason why it scales well compared to 4070 supertitty, again its a big chip. If you want higher resolutions and / or RT, get the GRE and OC the memory.

@roki977

2 ай бұрын

@@kawafahra I owned 6800. for last 6 months i own 7800 xt hellhound and i no one can tell me that that gpu dont overclock or scale well, its a beast. I can get my xt over 3ghz for benchmarks, 2.9 for 1440p, well over 10% gain over ref. clocks.. If you are unlucky and run into Samsung memory on any of those gpu you wont see much memory overclocking.. These guys are testing top notch model with extra power phases and higher power limit which is low on ref gre and all of them are power limited..

@kawafahra

2 ай бұрын

@@roki977 Thats where RDNA 3 made the jump up a class. 6800 and 7800 XT share market segment, price bracket, and number of compute units, 7800XT is way faster out of the box. 7900GRE is an afterthought, an extra pcb layout neither based on XTX, nor 7800 downwards, but mobile 7900. Why they brought it into mass production, no one knows.

Apparently the 7900 GRE will be my next GPU ✌🏻

That little push on the memory was all it needed to actually be a pretty good deal. Especially if you’re gonna play games at 4k.

Good video. Not interested in overclocking personally, because of stability concerns. But I like to watch others overclock, to see what is possible. So keep making these videos.

The gap price between the rx 7800xt and 7900 gre in my city is so close, i feel regret getting the 7800xt 😢 but im still on my 1080p monitor so iguess im still fine with it

@Ab-in6fk

2 ай бұрын

I didn't know 7900 gre was better with almost same price as 7800xt, Almost did your mistake haha

@XXlegovidXx

2 ай бұрын

When did you purchase it cus surely you could send it back?

@Satou-Akira71

2 ай бұрын

yeah same thing got it end of last year, feels bad man GRE will pull ahead on some games especially on 4K

@HYDRAdude

2 ай бұрын

AMD releasing this card right when the 7700/7800xt launch window ended, right when the return window closed, was extremely dirty of them. Even nvidia doesn't hate their own customers this much.

@HYDRAdude

2 ай бұрын

​@@Satou-Akira71Just remember to vote with you wallet next time and go either nvidia or even Intel next time.

I'm so happy to be watching this fresh review of this new graphics card that has never been done before. I hope to see a re review sometime soon!

thanks guys for this video!

Impressive results

Thanks for covering this Steve, the driver also enabled Windows HDR to work on the QN90C as now able to set Colour depth to 12 bpc with Pixel Format RGB 4:4:4 under display in Andrenalin (AMD's GPU control panel for the average joe) using a HDMI cable capable of handling the signal. So, now I can enjoy Freesync HDR in games that don't auto force the TV to use Freesync HDR. Man, games even look amazing at 4096 x 2160 with Freesync HDR. I bought the TV on monthly payments before everything happened with Samsung TVs warranty scandal - where a repair tech knifed a customers TV....

I picked one up to do game testing and requests. I haven’t been interested in a gpu since the a770 to do proper coverage of. Feels nice

I wanted to say thanks for including a 4070 oc for perspective. Many reviewers I follow did not do this. This was a good decision since OC review was a popular demand by the community even though it's not the traditional approach to these benchmarks.

Nice to finally see this GRE re-re, re-re-re, re-review. So a card that was originally vanishingly faster than their own 7800XT was capable of some pretty substantial gains after AMD got out of their own way, often able to perform more akin to the 7900XT and I particularly think breaking even with the 4070ti Super in 4K was significant. Personally, I think merely naming it the 7900 for the world market would have been best. Also fantastic to include OC results for the 4070 Super right off the bat since potential buyers should naturally be curious what they might be able to extract there as well. Can’t wait for a re-re, re-re-re-review of the 13900, now wearing the “14900KS” moniker.

Superior even to 4070 Ti Super. 400$ less...

Wow, from a 4070S competitor to a 4070TiS competitor just with a free overclock. Awesome card!

Good news! From your guys testing, you should use perhaps the PowerColor Hellhound, that had lower temps, perhaps you would even get better results!

GREat to see a modern card having decent OC capability. We have seen so few of those for a long time.

Glad you'r eback as i'm sick of having to but timmy boy on 0.25 speed to understand him

Liking my GRE! Upgrading from a 5700 XT, and that was noticeable on tekken 8; even though they have the 5700XT as recommended. :/ also I can now game at a healthy 60 fps at 4k. So that is a plus.

Nice little free uplift in performance. Good value to be honest

So basically this is what the RX 7800 XT should have been.

i wish i was into vldl npc d&d sooner i would have bought those mini figs the second i seen them come out. thanks for the update

So, I have this card... i think what i love about it... it does heave lifting, and makes the subttle things look good as well, things like vids, and pics.

Ayyyeee Welcome back bro !!!!

Impressive!

Here in Houston, TX the 7900 GRE is about the same price as 7800 XTs at Microcenter. I want one for my 2nd gaming PC.

Holy Crap!! That's amazing!! You have a $500 amd card stomping a $800 NVIDIA card.... Just from a driver update!!!! NVIDIA has NEVER been able to pull off sometime like this

Thanks Steve. Wish you included RX 6900 XT as well.

When talking about overclocks I feel like it’s really important to not forget power draw. Overclocking my 7900xt can add 75 watts to TBP which is massive. Undervolting is another area that’s not often talked about either since it allows more clocks. Would love to see more testing here for red and green cards! I can overclock my 7900xt to stock 7900xtx performance but decide to undervolt instead to reduce power significantly while keeping just above stock performance.

@PineyJustice

2 ай бұрын

The 7900gre needs a memory overclock, not a core overclock so power would be largely unaffected. Secondly, maybe a partner 7900xt can hit a MBA 7900xtx, but a partner 7900xtx stock is going to be well out of the range of a 7900xt, and the partner 7900xtx cards can overclock pretty well too.

I picked up a 7900 GRE this week finally upgrading from a gtx 1070 that I was squeezing every last bit of performance out of. I am really happy so far after figuring out some issues fixed by cleaning out old nvidia drivers. I am pretty happy with it. Other than tinkering with the memory, if anyone knows any optimization tips for these newer radeon cards let me know! I have been out of the loop for a lot of the newer cards and I feel like I am still leaving a lot of performance on the table.

Great update. Please add cost per frame comparison graph update. That would be cool!

@Hardwareunboxed

2 ай бұрын

Can't really do cost per frame for an overclock, that would be a bit misleading.

@ItsJustVV

2 ай бұрын

@@HardwareunboxedBut you should have added the horrible perf/watt graph & power draw for both OC-ed GPUs showing how much more efficient nvidia is even OC-ed. Not to mention how it destroys Radeon in heavy RT/PT games.

@PJSM94

2 ай бұрын

Bring the fanboyism down a few points, man. ​@@ItsJustVV

@woldemunster9244

2 ай бұрын

@@ItsJustVV Fanboy much?

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

@@ItsJustVV AMD respond REALLY well to undervolting. So much so that you can often overclock even further after undervolting. Like cost per frame with overclocking, performance/watt is also kind of misleading. It comes down too much to your skill and patience in getting the outcome.

The XFX 7900gre I got today boosts to 2.6ghz at default setting.

Hey Steve! It would really benefit clarity with all these numbers 3:50 and so on with some simple tables where all those numbers can be read (and even paused the video). Normal clocks vs. overclocked models. Also regarding test system (memory, timings, specs). Thanks. p.s. And it would always, always (!) be nice, if you would include some older (maybe last gen) GPU for comparison instead like RTX 4060 or 7700 XT ... because people looking for a new GPU simply don't have a comparison point with the newest lineup. But let's say a RTX 3080 or a RX 6800 XT would be a nice reference to know, if some threshold like 60 fps is in reach, or not. So someone with a RTX 3060 or 2080 has an idea, how much faster a 3080 was. But 4060 "Ti Super 16 Gig whatever" can be tricky sometimes. p.p.s. Interesting video though (of course ;) ), but a final comparison in "bang for buck" (especially against 7900 XT with it's 24 (!) Gigs of VRAM) or some titles tested with RT (because of the RTX 4070 Super comparisons) would have been the cherry on the cake.

Are those viva la dirt league minis? Nice

Wow, that's the best performance & value GPU I've seen in the mid-range in a while

@colbyboucher6391

2 ай бұрын

"mid-range"

I definitely want to purchase the GRE for the best price/performance, but I love the reference card that only comes for the 7900 xt. I'm absolutely wished they made a reference card with the GRE. I'll just wait until the 7900 XT drops to $650 in the future.

@andersjjensen

2 ай бұрын

I had a Reference 6700XT. It was too noisy and hot for me, so I returned it and up-paid to a Red Devil 6700XT. After seeing the reviews of the Reference 7900XTX I went directly for a Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX. I still vastly prefer the look of the Reference cards, but the vapour chamber approach is just not idea.

As someone who just bought a 7900 GRE, I actually really appreciate the coverage you have done about this GPU. Really happy about my purchase knowing i spent $579 on a GPU that performs like a $700+ GPU. Thank you

I am tempted to by one. But I shall wait for the review of this review to review my options.

The GPU hanging from the top of the case is pretty cool

THANK YOU FOR NOT OVERSELLING THE CARD dont wanna have another RTX 3070 sold out situation

Time to buy !

Fixed memory OC makes it the most exciting card this generation. This is what 7800xt should have been from the start.

Love the VLDL figurines. 🤙

The issue is that AMD GPU overclocks never stick. Once a week the driver crashes (black screen for 2 seconds) and all OC settings get reverted back to default.

@livingplasma

2 ай бұрын

I only use Adrenalin to tweak fan curves and still get "Default Radeon WattMan settings has been restored due to unexpected system failure"

@KlaweKlapki

2 ай бұрын

Bullshit

@WrexBF

2 ай бұрын

@@KlaweKlapki Look it up if you think I'm bullshitting. This issue has been around since Polaris.

@Hudee1985

2 ай бұрын

Those frequent crashes are not normal, at least I don't have them (RX 6650XT, v23.11.1 driver, Win10). But Adrenalin reverting back the settings to stock when something goes wrong is. Maybe Windows Update messing up the drivers? Make sure this function is disabled. Otherwise you can export your settings and the tuning profile, so you can load them back with a few mouse clicks. I only have 5% UV, +10% power limit, 5% OC on GPU & MEM and Fast MEM timing enabled, but didn't gave me issues yet.

@Kryptic1046

Ай бұрын

@@WrexBF - Facts. I have a 7900 XTX and the driver resets OC settings for literally any reason or no reason at all about once a week. I have the settings exported to a file, so it's easy to change them back again, but you are right that AMD's software loves resetting your tuning settings.

This is so interesting to see such an nice lil bump. I'm now really interested in the gap above the 7900XT and the 7900XTX... is that decently large gap there to slot the 8800XT in? Or could the average partner card make up some ground? Even with the lowered price of the 7900XTX now at $899 that's a $200 difference for ~18% improvement based on checking our your 4080S 1440p average section of the review. Did this GRE unlock accidentally add any boosts to the higher end cards' OC ability? Would be interesting to see! At least for me. Cheers.

Rather impressive results

Great content, but I'm missing power consumption increases for the OC's ...

@marius0448

2 ай бұрын

Undervolt it

I just got my Pulse GRE...My God what a monster. 25100 Points in Timespy. 2550 Mhz on Mem and 2800 Mhz on the GPU @ 920 mV.

This is similar to the old ATI 2900PRO and XT era. The ATI 2900 pro, you could convert it into an XT, by touching a few parameters, and it performed the same as the XT version

Got mine yesterday - 7900 GRE Pure Edition Sapphire - 960 mV - 2603 Mhz Core Clock - 2312 Mhz Memory Clock - average 10% more FPS and thanks to UV it only draws 245 Watts. Was the same price as the 7800xt in my country.

@danieldellemonache2133

2 ай бұрын

At 925mv is it stable? if so you would have a gold chip that is difficult to replicate by other boards

@tobitobend6723

2 ай бұрын

@danieldellemonache2133 ​Seems like it, 10 mins Stresstest in AMD Adrenaline and Furmark

@tobitobend6723

Ай бұрын

@@danieldellemonache2133 nope unfortunately it only runs stable at minimum 960 mV (after some gaming - f.e. Horzion Forbidden West) and i lowered the VRAM Clock to 2312, cause i didn't see a huge increase of fps in a lot of games, the only increase i saw was in the fan speed and in the temps - benchmarks are the only exception.

Impressive I would be interested to compare 7800xt OC results. Also 4060 Ti is crippled to 18gbps while using 20gbps chips ( at least in my gpu) , no clue why nvidia did that. Edit: Seems some have 18gbps and some have samsung 20gbps. If you use GPU-Z and see samsung it is running 20gbps chips.

@PC_Ringo

2 ай бұрын

Probably not the only thing we have no clue about wrt NVIDIA and the 40 series in general 😅

Man, kinda want it but also kinda want to wait for 8000 series.

RX 7900 GRE 16GB [OC] is the KING

Hope you had a nice vacation, Steve.

I have nitro+ 7900 xtx, Oc + UV is not easy, because you have to make different profiles depending on the engine used in the game to maximalize results, but for AMD +10%+ after oc is standard.

If you got a good OC, this cards really holds its weight at 4K, impressive

Thanks for the bench. Could you tell me what GPU stable values did you ended with?

Regret even less for buying last week! BG3 is so smooth now! And that Australian accent is truly something else lol

I dont think it was a bug. AMD did that on purpose becouse the OC GRE trades blows with 7900XT in some cases. But after they were called out its supposedly a bug.

@magikarp2063

2 ай бұрын

Yup. The fact they are using slow memory gives it away. Feels like they would do anything to shoot themselves in the foot.

Would be interesting to compare against 7900 xt oc. Overall great performance for the 7900 gre now!

hiya, thanks for all of your amazing content. Could you maybe show the difference between an overclocked 7900GRE and overclocked 7900XT?

@andersjjensen

2 ай бұрын

The 7900XT takes the same typical 5-7% overclock as everything else. The reason why the GRE gets these wild results is plainly because it was imbalanced from factory.

My OC 7800xt gets similar results. Kinda wish I would have waited to get the 7900gre though. I had no idea it existed when I built my pc.

The vapor X customs are something else, I bought a 7900xt for 632€ (average price in Europe is 770-800€) and even setting power limit to -10% it still pushes more than most customs Average price for a gre is 600

Would be interested to see comparisons to an AIB 7800 xt OClocked as well. That feels like where most people will compare, as they are similar priced cards.

Would be cool to see how you overclock the cards and find stability

Be aware, some people's cards have Samsung/Hynix memory and thus they can only hit the high 2300 MHz range for memory OC which is paltry, rather than the high 2600 MHz range like Steve did. It really is luck of the draw as to how well your card can do. I mean I know OCs have always been a per card/chip thing, but for memory OC I've never seen such a large difference, usually all VRAM OC's within 100 MHz of another card, even golden samples.

@DavidHHH99

2 ай бұрын

Damn. I have the Gigabyte OC model, and GPU-Z is reporting that it's Samsung memory. I got it because it has the highest core factory OC of the models selling for $550, but I guess we're getting shafted with the RAM. Oh well...

I am curious. When reviewers say what the maxiumum and/or sustained clock speed of the AMD 7000 cards. Are they quoting the front end clock or the shader clock?

*Nice, looking for a GRE for my next upgrade*

How about power usage when OC? That would've been interesting to see.

So the 4070 TI is a barely faster 4070 super and let's remember it is originally the 4080 12 GB. Nvidia care for gamers.

Then i was considering to buy rx7800xt or rx7900gre - price diferrent` was 50$ :) but vram limit was were, then Hardware Unboxed announced it`s driver`s issues. so i decided go for 7900gre :) for XT version needed extra 150$ i did`t want spend too much :) now with new drivers easy oc`ed vram to 2514mhz i don`t need more :) all games 144fps WQHD works perfect :) and under 250w :)

In my country both the 7800 xt and 7900 gre sit at around €600, gre actually being cheaper in multiple stores depending on the model. This was the perfect time to lay my good ol rx 580 to rest o7

@andersjjensen

2 ай бұрын

LOL. Yeah... I though I ran my RX 580 for a long time, but you take the cake, Sir. That card will need a little shrine to sit on with a label that says "A real trooper is too stubborn to die".

I'm curious, what kind of power was it drawing at those speeds? Does it scale better in ray tracing with the extra cores?

7900GRE 4k gaming card for 550...good price/performance i guess. fsr also getting an update. would love to see it drop to 500 (very fast) for everyone needing an upgrade.