"I am very aware i dont quite fit with the image of hololive" *Looks at the current Hololive roster* Nah you will fit in just fine

@kylewoodowens4488

7 ай бұрын

Lol 😂. Right

@skyrimenjoyer

5 ай бұрын

Looks like Shiori and Nerissa combined

She drinks, she smokes, she gambles. She's a perfect fit.

@aserta

8 ай бұрын

She's also a comedian. Which of course is the most important criteria!

@fmaaru571

6 ай бұрын

And he’s given it all up for Akirose and us fam 🙏🏼

One thing that I found striking about Regloss was their Vtuber avatar design. All 5 of them look like they jumped right out of a shoujo manga (eg. Vampire knight). Just compare to Holox which has a demon lord, an assassin orca and a samurai. The Regloss designs are way more grounded in comparison. I don't know what it means, but I think it might be worth pointing out.

@polkalamypekopeko2969

9 ай бұрын

Yes I noticed, it is very....Nijisanji, y'know? Especially Iluna gen, very human.

@tigeryo8943

9 ай бұрын

Note how all their ages are in the 20s, a lot more _realistic_ compared to others - I think it’s meant to mimic a real idol unit

@mermaid_hina2713

9 ай бұрын

Just wanna say with her mask on Raden looks like she could be irl, her model looks that good.

@jcudejko

8 ай бұрын

I think they are very human Which is a nice break. It seems even with the fans pushing the meme they are kind of resistant to it

@dewaeryadi7776

8 ай бұрын

Idolmaster girls

Hololive specializes in non-standard Idols. Sure it has a bunch of members that conform to the "ideal idol" image, but it also has a lot of members that are very much NOT "ideal idols". In this sense, I can't imagine why someone like JFT wouldn't fit in, if anything she's a great example of Hololive's ideals, that anyone can be an idol. Even if for a short while, even the legendary dragon was an idol.

@Otek_Nr.3

6 ай бұрын

Your comment just made me go through all the Hololive members one by one, and I can't think of a single one that I would describe as a standard idol. But maybe I just don't know enough of the "normal" Japanese idol culture. Could you please tell me which members you were referring to with "a bunch"?

@SorenNido

6 ай бұрын

@@Otek_Nr.3 Members like Sora, AZKi, and Suisei might be seen to be "normal" JP idols. But thinking more critically about it now, even they have some traits and quirks that are kinda un-idolish in terms of traditional JP idols (Sora being impossible to scare, Suisei being a shonencon, and AZKi being kinda yandere at times, etc), of course all of this not including the fact of them being virtual idols.

@ibn9000

6 ай бұрын

The idol thing is just a joke bro, they are just streamers

@Cr3zant

6 ай бұрын

@@ibn9000 They're both. They aren't mutually exclusive, and some care more for one or the other, but to just outright say they're "just streamers" is incredibly disrespectful of all the effort they put in to both making their content and improving their talents.

I hope ReGloss can reach out to audiences beyond what Hololive had right now. It is a great decision to expand this way.

0:32 I know she may not feel she fits with "hololive's image" and some people probably think that as well, but the undeniable truth is that *she's in hololive.* Sure, it may not be the 7th Gen, but that fact shouldn't be treated like she's in something "beneath" 7th Gen or less important. DEV_IS and ReGloss are cooking something different, so I hope Raden not only keeps in mind the fact that hololive itself decided she fits "hololive's image" but she's going to be apart of something new in hololive's history. Thanks for the subs!

@LuckySevenSamson

9 ай бұрын

Bruh, what they cookin' is yummy. These girls are funny, two of them are near-fluent in English, one of them is severely ikemen, Hajime is a straight up gremlin... I love it. Gimme.

From what little I've seen of her in clips like this, she'd easily be on my top 3 most watched channels if I knew any Japanese... Oh well 😓

@ONIGIRIKINGU

4 ай бұрын

whats stopping you

The fact that she don't sing or play game much shows that Yagoo and co saw something special in her, and I think they were right.

It's been 8 months and I still have no idea why they are separated lmao

@hungnguyenthanh3272

Ай бұрын

I think they work more together as a group, release a lot more covers, songs and they rarely release their own songs compared to other members. Their projects concentrate more on the group project I think, like a band(just my opinion).

It's kinda funny though... Her image went from a being a drunk, smoker, gambler with an ojou-sama avatar to actually becoming an Ojou-sama with knowledge in fine arts.

it's nice seeing clips that like that give context to things or show more about the talents themselves.

Raden is so damn cute, I just wanna hug her

just my guess, holo corp probably realized they cannot make the same kind of content creator every generation, play games + singing + idol image + sweaty fps gamer, all of those are probably covered by prev generation. so they try to recruit members with more niche subject like raden

Raden's honesty to her vices and insecurities really paints that she has some self-esteem issues, this girl needs all that love she can get, tbh.

@JasonChen927

9 ай бұрын

I think it the other way. To me, being humble and honest of one's true feelings is the sign of a healthy mental state. But yeah, she deserves all the love anyway!

@miragespl

9 ай бұрын

@@JasonChen927 Raden? Healthy mental state? Bro, if it's Raden we're talking about, I think you gotta change the way you think about your theory because she's far from having a healthy mental state. Someone in a healthy mental state would be humble and honest, yes; but they also wouldn't think so little of themselves. They would be confident of themselves but have no urge to bring others down. They're willing to grow to even better themselves, and lastly, they would have better self control and their vices wouldn't come to a point that will endanger their lives. THAT is a person with a healthy mental state. She's trying to help herself though. So I hope she does become healthy both in mind and body during her time with Hololive.

@ALDOGMO13

7 ай бұрын

Drinking, smoking and gambling are all unwanted traits in Japan. while having one isnt an issue except for gambling, having all 3 of them means that Raden was possibly not someone who was welcomed by many.

@butternecrofly7193

7 ай бұрын

@ALDOGMO13 at least she has support from fans. And while the others don't like the smell of cigarettes and stuff, least they're welcoming, in their own teasing way. Really, thinking her staff told her to expect the negative wave from her vices must have hit hard her selfsteem, gotta applaud she's kept it up.

She's a comedian. She fits just perfect!

Many months later, we still don't see the logic presented. She's literally the perfect fit for Hololive.

Official hololive comedian branch, calling it

Whatever yagoo's cooking I know it's gonna be delicious 🙏

I really hope the best for them

She's a natural comedian, she fits perfectly

Raden is such a homie 🙏🏼

One this for sure is.. cover always hires comedians 😂

I have a theory. Hololive has become known for immersion and lore which sets the theme and the way the fans interact with the idols. Oftentimes, these personalities come in their demi-human forms. It's definitely an idol fantasy. However, ReGLOSS only has people. While it is different from the usual Hololive image, it can give the talents more freedom especially with talking about their personal experiences and interests. I saw this as a strength of Niji before, talking about everyday mundane things which are relatable and also entertaining. It's a nice change of pace and probably healthier too for the talents who have vastly different offline personalities that have to turn on the switch when working. In short, it's like the branch of reality shows when you're taking a break from the large lore and world-building of Hololive/Holostars.

Raden is perfect waifu

Why people are still confused, they're a group focused more on music. Once they get their 3D, it will become more obvious. They'll have their live concert together. Not one by one.

@Orome96

9 ай бұрын

Erm, take a look at hololive's previous attempts at this. Both Azki and Iris were supposed to be music focused, and they ended up no different then the other talents. It will be the same deal with regloss.

@hashira4869

9 ай бұрын

@@Orome96 They're not failed. They're stuck because of the pandemic. AZKi started again with hololive, and IRyS had problems with her model and her producer. Things just went south for her. That's what her song Gravity is about. Now, AZKi made her major debut with Victor Entertainment. IRyS just got a new model and got her 3D. She will be unstoppable once she gets over her cough. Just look forward to their future projects, they're still working for hololive, aren't they? It's not over yet. As for Regloss, Cover is hiring a bunch of experienced staff for them. Unlike years ago Cover is more than ready to start a new virtual artist/group both in quality and financially. I mean, they could make Regloss debut in 3D if they want to, like Sora, Miko and AZKi. But that will start chaos between fans. So now they're just hanging around for a bit and gathering some fanbase while hololive is working on 3D showcases for EN and ID.

@luker2999

9 ай бұрын

I mean, until now, there is absolutely no difference at all, but we will see what happens in the future...

@rektl2036

9 ай бұрын

We will see how much more action they will get on their dedication channel. Essentially this is like a female Uproar? So hologra aside, the idea is a lot more collab, but maybe they will feature as Regloss + guest. This is technically closer in line with how I see things being done on the hololive fanclub side of things

@rektl2036

9 ай бұрын

@@hashira4869to add to your point, I like that they are still trying to make it work. At least they know AT WORSE, they will just fall back onto the tried and true formula. But for now there’s a chance to expand further and try and tweak a failed concept and refine it. Failure is the mother of success, and YAGOO is the best girl. Literally we should let them cook

They're five humans.

She doesn't fit in Hololive?? Who bamboozled her with such an obvious LIE?!

@kylewoodowens4488

7 ай бұрын

Their are so many weirdos in Hololive that she seems more normal in comparison.

I hope hololive opens an art school

I wonder if they are trying to have a more specific focus with their content rather than the typical singing, gaming, anime/manga culture that the majority of the other hololive girls do. Maybe they are trying to target people outside of those interests.

I don't think it's necessary to try and create this box of moral values around Hololive. Adults can engage in vices just fine if they're not hurting anyone. I think Raden is still totally a Hololive member regardless of her quirks. She's a great streamer and her group wouldn't be the same without her, Gen 7 or not

@PvtVallen

9 ай бұрын

I would largely agree but glorifying smoking as much as she is in this day and age is insane imo. Smoking must be far, far more acceptable in Japan than it is in the west for her to be going so hard into it as a character trait.

@hainsmades3911

9 ай бұрын

I disagree. It's important to (gently) enforce moral values on a group of strong personalities like content creators. If you dive deep enough you know a significant number of vtubers, including holos, cannot function like responsible adults. Without any core value to humble them they will quickly fall apart. Even Raden is pressured to stop smoking for her senpais. Normally I'd write more, but these days I can just point to NijiEN as proof. No box of moral values = constant drama = fans get tired and stop watching. There's a reason why Hololive is the biggest name in the VTubing industry with relatively few dramas despite their large amount of talents.

@Goliagoli

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@PvtVallenthere is a lot of smoking in Japan, but glorifying smoking? Chill out man. She’s not telling anyone or promoting anyone to smoke.

@SilverScizor753

9 ай бұрын

@@PvtVallenI don't think she "glorifies" smoking, it's just something she does. It's a part of her life and she talks about her life so of course it would come up. She's very aware of the impact smoking and drinking can have on your health and have pointed out to her audience to be careful about them.

@TheInnocentRabbitofCaerbannog

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, but this is japan we are talking about Yes, they are strict and have other bs problems But the mindset of "do whatever you want as long as you dont hurt anybody" is how we get cesspits like california Things like smoking is objectively bad for your health and everybody around you

I dont see any difference what so ever between ReGLOSS and Hololive. Both groups are comedians, memers and shit posters who sometimes also sings and dances.

I honestly don't understand why some people keep insisting calling Regloss JP 7 just because they're japanese and ignore everything that states their difference. I mean they say they're not,is it that hard to accept them the way they're? rather than sticking with the unhealthy delusions that is in your brain.

@Bullseyefrom2003

9 ай бұрын

It aint that serious, man lol

@exiagn0012

9 ай бұрын

Calm, dude. It's just a 3D cartoon streamer. Don't take it seriously

"the image of hololive" what image?

I just think the Dev_is is their vsinger group and its not that gradually it'll become clearer. It'll be gradually y'all gonna be comedians.

I couldn't give two sh*ts about "Yagoo's dream" to me ReGLOSS is alright

The one experimental thing that necessitates a test branch is showing their real faces in an official setting and having official events in-person

@sebastiantafoya3609

9 ай бұрын

Are you insane? That's a death sentence for many of them, do you have any idea how schizophrenic some fans are? They better keep their identities hidden for the majority of them.

@doggosuki

9 ай бұрын

my friend, while i do share in your worries, celebrities have always been a thing before vtubers existed, so have idols and such. dont think its as dramatic as a 'death sentence' but yea they would have to worry a lot more about stuff like that i guess @@sebastiantafoya3609

@butternecrofly7193

9 ай бұрын

You miss the whole point of vtubers dude.

@Bird.jp_Love-English-Fixes-plz

7 ай бұрын

It would imply all the other hololive members also have “real human faces” behind the scenes, it would be definitely gonna break the brand and images of those other members. You might consider it as a“experimental ” thing, but it cannot be just “experimental ” if it may affect other members as well. It’s just too much of risk.

This is just a theory, but I think Dev_Is as a group is conceived for JP applicants who doesn't quite reach hololive standards due to a few gaping flaws, but their entertainment value are still high quality enough to be worth hiring. Basically a "hoard them before other corporations take them in" tactic. Ao: no streaming experience Kanade: lives in Korea so physical communication may be difficult. Japanese is not fluent enough to be holoJP, english is not fluent enough to be HoloEN. Ririka: no streaming experience Raden: no streaming experience or exposure to online culture at all, plus the smoking may pose a risk for the idol branding of the main branch. Additionally several JP talents had openly expressed disdain for smokers in the past. Hajime: not sure about her actually. maybe because her pronounciation is worse than miko? There are talents in other branches with few to no streaming experience like nerissa and kobo, but their branch is not large enough to justify an off-branch yet. Some people think Dev_Is is a Vsinger branch like INNK but that's not true either, only Kanade and Hajime took their singing career seriously before they were hired.

@niels_m_h

9 ай бұрын

This is one possibility. Perhaps they want to experiment with debuting more talents faster with less filter, but also lower expectations, kind of?

@atarasu-ch

9 ай бұрын

Interesting take on a 'feeder branch', but it also kind of implies the idea of 'moving up', so you'd be creating a class system within HoloLive which would be extremely weird. Probably very hard on the mental health of talents too, you could get a situation where like a Gen 7 debut stream gets like ~200K views on whilst an offshoot gets like ~20K because it's just not got the same pull. In many ways, I think early EN/ID felt this way; I think Kiara has touched on this in the past You could argue that large numbers of talents provides a more stable business platform for Cover since it distributes risk across a wider area. Imagine if Pekora/Marina/Lamy/Noel decided to start their own company for example, all of their big earners are suddenly out of HoloLive (though I highly doubt this would ever happen). And realistically I think that's the mindset here, lower risk, diverse the portfolio and broaden the talent pool to reach more potential users With that said, I do think the greater the number of talents the more the fan base gets fractured. I know vtubing is a huge growth state but that's also when it's at the most risk of cannabalizing itself

@hainsmades3911

9 ай бұрын

​@@atarasu-ch That class system you say of has already existed in hololive. It's enforced by the audience, not the talents of Cover corp. One glaring example is how ID, even until now, is always the third wheel between JP and EN, to the point that most fans (or in rare cases, talents) forgot about ID entirely. And don't even get me started on Holostars. But I don't think Cover itself intend to promote ReGloss as second class compared to JP. It's more of opening an alternate gateway to hololive if they dont fit the idol mold, along with diversifying risk as you said. Plus it looks good to the investors. If the only thing they care about is lowering risk they'd just debut all 5 of them under JP7.

@atarasu-ch

9 ай бұрын

​@@hainsmades3911 I'm not that familiar with HoloStars so I decided not to mention them, but I kind of assumed that's how they would feel too to be honest! Maybe that's the idea here; ReGloss and similar 'branches' (?) like this are streaming focused rather than idol focused? But then you'd kind of argue idol activities are secondary to the streaming anyway because you can't 'idol' as often as you can stream. But again, you'd fall into the trap of 'well why can't ReGloss etc put out songs/do concerts?' So I don't think that idea fits either. I think as ever Cover falls into a trap of its own making by making a decision, not really having a clear idea what that decision is, going with it anyway and then sending that messageout and then kind of just doesn't deal with the confusion haha

@exiagn0012

9 ай бұрын

By your explanation, all talents from Regloss are not from JP?

It's kinda like Coco all over again since she also doesn't behave like a typical japanese idol

@hainsmades3911

9 ай бұрын

@@Orome96 which part of raden is a narcissist?

@hainsmades3911

9 ай бұрын

@@Orome96 Well, at least Raden is still new blood. Maybe one of her senpais will give advice and humble her before it's too late.

@hashira4869

9 ай бұрын

@@Orome96 I wanted to have a fair argument with you but you're just a hater. As much as I hate her bad habits, she's not a bad person, she's not a narcissist either. I can see that you never watched her. I wasted my time replying to you twice. Goodbye.

@nyrtzi

9 ай бұрын

@@Orome96 "I genuinely NEVER saw ANYTHING positive said about her." Ok. All I needed to do to see someone say something positive about her was to paste a random comment from the original stream's comment section into an online translator. What you're saying just boils down to lazy anecdotal evidence which is to say that it's not worth anything in determining if people actually say good or bad things about her. And knowing that people with biases tend to filter out observations that don't fit in with how they've already decided they want to think... you're probably just filtering a lot perhaps even without being aware of it if you've seen literally nothing good said about her. Personally I find Raden funny and entertaining and so seem to many others too considering how many people are laughing in her chat. I find all the talk about her vices and such to be... irrelevant. I'm not watching HoloPro in search of role models or hope for myself. For me it's just casual entertainment and all this talk about her bad habits just makes me want to ask if were on KZread now or in church full of very old narrow-minded people pointing fingers at anyone who deviates from tradition. As someone who watched Coco's almost every stream from her 3D debut to her graduation including the members only ones as a tatsunoko I do find it highly distasteful that you'd be shitting on people in the same sentence that you're mentioning the name of my first oshi considering that for me and many others Coco's legacy is all about bringing people together for a good laugh and fun times instead of being boring, judgmental and prudish.

@loflow

9 ай бұрын

​@@Orome96 "And so far, from every single clip and every single comment i've seen about her, it was about her negative traits." This is a crazy comment to make lol. The previous clip from this channel has her talking about her interest in photography and her actual photos. The other clip about her is talking about how she is passionate about research and a researcher from University of Tokyo actually responded to her on Twitter. So if you haven't seen any clip or comment about her other than her negative traits ( smoking , drinking , and what not), it has to mean that you are avoiding it or you are only clicking on the clickbait clips and then assuming her whole personality from those clips. Which is funny because she talks about her vices for like less than 5 mins and then goes to elaborate about arts and crafts and her passion about it for the rest of the stream. She even has a few Museums in Japan already interacting with her. One of the Museum even superchatted her from the official KZread account.

idk why but with dev_is being its own thing i would not be supprised it some gens of it are english speakers someday