Racial Tension |Liverpool | 1972

In 1972 inner city Liverpool was rocked by racial tension and fighting between gangs of black and white youths. In this short extract this Thames Televisions Peter Taylor investigates why the tension arose and what can be done to calm the situation. First transmitted in 17/08/1972
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  • @Xerbraski
    @Xerbraski4 жыл бұрын

    You can still hear the Irish twang in those accents, you tend not to hear that anymore

  • @sarahhhhhhhh569

    @sarahhhhhhhh569

    4 жыл бұрын

    Xerbraski is it not just a Scouse accent

  • @mattybold5065

    @mattybold5065

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sar Barr scouse accent is influenced by Irish

  • @rawdog314

    @rawdog314

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can hear just as much Welsh

  • @rawdog314

    @rawdog314

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mattybold5065 amongst others

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    4 жыл бұрын

    The man on the balcony at around 14:01 and the older man at about 17:20 definitely an Irish influence in their way of speaking. A lot of the others do as well, but these 2 men stand out a bit more.

  • @southlondon86
    @southlondon867 жыл бұрын

    This is great video quality for 1972! When you look back at footage on the streets from the early 1970s they are usually very low quality.

  • @garymay799

    @garymay799

    4 жыл бұрын

    OROMO KUSH yes it would you dirty man we know your game

  • @danw1374

    @danw1374

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably been stored properly so the film hasnt deteriorated over time.

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very good quality. Guessing a lot of work went into it to make video of a decent quality.

  • @JohnThomas-yo1no
    @JohnThomas-yo1no4 жыл бұрын

    I love the Scouse, sternness of the black woman who is 32. Very intelligent, no nonsense lady.

  • @isaz597

    @isaz597

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wow she'd be 80 today. Yes she was no nonsense

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@isaz597 Yep, she'd be 80 bless her.

  • @MichaelJ44

    @MichaelJ44

    2 жыл бұрын

    19:47

  • @michaelwalls4346
    @michaelwalls43464 жыл бұрын

    I love the class/ethnic solidarity. The lady at the end really puts things into perspective. Growing up on a British housing estate myself, I remember a lot of this. A friend of mine at the time, whose mother was Afro-Caribbean, noticed a palpable shift in treatment around the late 1970s. As we all did actually. I am half-Irish and on occasion that could cause problems for us due to the conflict in Northern Ireland at the time.

  • @phantompage4304

    @phantompage4304

    3 жыл бұрын

    Could You elaborate please?

  • @moabsmithbey9583
    @moabsmithbey95836 жыл бұрын

    Those afro are epic.

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    4 жыл бұрын

    If that’s all you’re taking from this doc then mre fool you.

  • @MaskedMenace94

    @MaskedMenace94

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emil_rainbow if you don’t understand how powerful those Afros were then stop. Black Brits adopted the stylized fro from Black American movements of the 70s as a way of showing Black Pride. That’s not just an “Afro”

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MaskedMenace94 You’re right, their significance cannot be understated. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @MaskedMenace94

    @MaskedMenace94

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emil_rainbow Respect bro. Yea the presentation of them were a statement. It was as much as a political statement as it was a nice style.

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MaskedMenace94 It’s easy to look back on those times and marvel at the styles while completely missing the radical intent.

  • @thecreativemillenial
    @thecreativemillenial5 жыл бұрын

    for people who call themselves skinheads, they sure have a lot of hair

  • @ItsNotRealLife

    @ItsNotRealLife

    4 жыл бұрын

    They aren't the skinheads. They didn't call themselves skinheads. The skins were the ones causing the trouble not these lads

  • @montygemma

    @montygemma

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ItsNotRealLife Well these lads have certainly been fighting. The one skinhead there has cuts under his eye and one of the long haired ones has a plaster above his eye.

  • @montygemma

    @montygemma

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ItsNotRealLife Oh and another plaster at 3:15.

  • @ItsNotRealLife

    @ItsNotRealLife

    4 жыл бұрын

    syd Well yknow people do fight

  • @TrooperLFC
    @TrooperLFC5 жыл бұрын

    skinheads? they got longer hair than Mick Jagger

  • @baxterstanley

    @baxterstanley

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are and were not skinheads, DICKHEADS more like

  • @oldtimer5283

    @oldtimer5283

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@baxterstanley boot boys you clown..

  • @newjerseyyouth4853

    @newjerseyyouth4853

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boneheads

  • @simonyip5978
    @simonyip59785 жыл бұрын

    The Scouse accent seems to be a lot stronger nowadays compared to even 4 decades ago, which is not that long ago when you think about it. I've heard how the Beatles, Tony Booth, Cilla Black, Tom O'Connor and the other famous Liverpool people from the 1960's and the 1970's, but when you listen to a group of younger people speaking together it's probably hard for someone who is not used to the accent to understand them. Some modern day Liverpool people have such strong accents that they almost sound like they are Liverpool people trying to impersonate themselves.

  • @philcosgrove6823

    @philcosgrove6823

    5 жыл бұрын

    The south end of Liverpool has always had a more softly spoken accent than the rest of Liverpool. The Scouse accent is always changing over time

  • @user-fb3jz2bn2q

    @user-fb3jz2bn2q

    5 жыл бұрын

    its because they are the people from the suberbs have a stronger accsent

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    5 жыл бұрын

    huyton traveller I've got scouse relatives on both sides of my family and I've noticed that the younger generation sound a lot different. I normally have no problem understanding any English accent but about 2-3 years ago, I was asked for directions to somewhere called 'Way Heaven Street' and I had to ask several times before I realised he was saying 'Worthing Street'. That was one of the few times that I have ever had trouble trying to understand a scouser.. hahaha 😆

  • @philcosgrove6823

    @philcosgrove6823

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@simonyip5978 If you look up the history of the Scouse dialect you will find it changes with time. It seems to be developing all the time we like to change words older people in Liverpool won't understand certain words it's like fashion changing all the time. You will get people who seem to exaggerate the accents when around mates so it's harder to understand. I work all over the world an when I talk to none scousers people understand me fine but when other scousers are there nobody understands us lol.

  • @jonathanbonner8867

    @jonathanbonner8867

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's because nowadays younger people compete over who's more scouse. As a result they put on a stronger accent. No one wants to be labelled a 'wool', i always seen it as a defence mechanism from people takin the piss.

  • @tkay999
    @tkay9993 жыл бұрын

    I love the woman with the gold tooth. Seems like she was raised right and is fair-minded

  • @jimmyonebomb
    @jimmyonebomb4 жыл бұрын

    Sad really as they are just two sets of working class people facing the same problems in many respects.

  • @kylejohnson5764

    @kylejohnson5764

    Жыл бұрын

    one thing your missing is, black people are subject to racial oppression on top of the economic inequities. There's this false narrative that working class whites go through what black people go through who live in the same areas.. demonstrably false.

  • @jimmyonebomb

    @jimmyonebomb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kylejohnson5764 Yes mate im aware working class black people face the added barrier of racism, something working class white people dont face. I said as working class people they "face the same problems in MANY RESPECTS", not all, and that its sad to see racism and issues of race dividing them. I stand by that

  • @kylejohnson5764

    @kylejohnson5764

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimmyonebomb respect sir

  • @PhilipCampbell-cv5lu

    @PhilipCampbell-cv5lu

    3 ай бұрын

    I knew a lot of those lads on both sides, seems like only yesterday.

  • @TruthMattersAlways

    @TruthMattersAlways

    3 ай бұрын

    @@PhilipCampbell-cv5lu Why were people so against the Granby St community?

  • @johnmorgan5495
    @johnmorgan54953 жыл бұрын

    Great film, brilliant people all of them and all living in difficult social circumstances.

  • @salkola1967sk
    @salkola1967sk3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic memories I wonder if any of these guys on both sides ever watched this footage again Most of them must be in there 60s Crickey where has time gone

  • @enskeez6815

    @enskeez6815

    2 жыл бұрын

    Crickey? Is that Australian?

  • @finolaomurchu8217
    @finolaomurchu82173 жыл бұрын

    The Liverpool people had soft Irish accents, mixed in with the Liverpool. Fantastic people 🇮🇪

  • @shush9116

    @shush9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    not anymore where all scally’s now

  • @jcshy

    @jcshy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s an Irish accent mixed with a Lancashire accent, probably made up of a bit more but mostly them two are it’s roots

  • @harryf1ashman

    @harryf1ashman

    3 жыл бұрын

    accents like IQs and personalities are in terminal decline

  • @lennon1482

    @lennon1482

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jcshy and north wales

  • @jesusislord8895

    @jesusislord8895

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nar scouse is Scouse

  • @janettemohan7739
    @janettemohan77393 жыл бұрын

    IMHO, there was an air of xenophobia about Liverpool in the 1970s and 1980s. Even people from Bootle weren't considered "one of us, la". Wirral had it even worse. And the Liverpool-b(i)ased Merseyside Constabulary put St. Helens police on the front line at the beginning of the Toxteth riots.

  • @Aly_jaf

    @Aly_jaf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely. John Barnes was racially abused by his own fans and the Everton games at several games in the 1980s

  • @thelouisfanclub
    @thelouisfanclub3 жыл бұрын

    My dad came from Nigeria to Liverpool around this time - not the most peaceful moment it seems!

  • @maximillianramirez1189
    @maximillianramirez118910 ай бұрын

    The one chap in the skinhead group seemed to be of mixed heritage

  • @ponyboycurtis3795

    @ponyboycurtis3795

    3 ай бұрын

    It's quite obvious the "skinhead" group isn't a skinhead group..not one has a skinhead 😂

  • @Tayloradrift

    @Tayloradrift

    3 ай бұрын

    And?

  • @baxterstanley
    @baxterstanley4 жыл бұрын

    Back then these flats were well built but like the woman said 7 people in it was overcrowded, why didn't the council decide as people vacated a property, they could and should have knocked two flats into one, so plenty of space and rooms for the whole family to live in without providing a house for them, to many of these buildings were torn down and replaced by inadequate houses, and so it goes on. A place in Huyton where I lived the flats were crap (1981-85), but the council to them over (2005) and made them open plan flats, they look beautiful now , if we plan things correctly it works, but back then it was throw them up and sod them. As for the troubles, the same lady was right, the kids back then had no jobs, no where to play, and no future hence the trouble.

  • @mic_derin
    @mic_derin4 жыл бұрын

    They sound like they are from Dublin

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    4 жыл бұрын

    The man on the balcony at around 14.00 does especially.

  • @bloodboughtbigphilr8266

    @bloodboughtbigphilr8266

    4 жыл бұрын

    Always thought the same myself. A massive ingredient in the Scouse accent along with North Wales and a bit of native Lancastrian. Travel a few miles out of the city to Warrington or St Helen's and altogether different.

  • @grahamjonathan762

    @grahamjonathan762

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sound's nothing like a Dublin accent

  • @bezerkerkrankenhaus7769

    @bezerkerkrankenhaus7769

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely, listen to any of the old interviews with Ronnie Drew, Brendan Behan etc and they're very similar to that man at 14.00 The older Liverppol accent says, "de boouuck" for "the book", "luike" instead of "like", "dis and datsss" for "this and that", "youse" for "you". Exact same pronunciation as Dublin and also they have the same musical sing song up and down accent, ,musical intonation. Up to a half a million Irish landed there after the famine, it's no wonder the Liverppol accent changed in the 19th Century. that man at 14.00 sounds a lot more like a Dubliner than someone from St Helens or Wigan.

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    3 жыл бұрын

    The middle aged fella at 14.00 and the older man at 17.00 both sound like they are from Ireland more than from England.

  • @Stiffd1
    @Stiffd15 жыл бұрын

    Not a criticsm? But I used to bus thru Tocky on '86. One evening, lower deck. A Bolt thru the window and it wasn't Usain, no clapping. Luckily I sat at back shielded by seats/engine housing.

  • @ihussain999
    @ihussain9994 жыл бұрын

    You can clearly hear the Irish twang in their accent...the stereotypical “scouse” sounding nasal and squeaky-ness is non-existent. Amazing how accents can change over 40-50 years

  • @oreank

    @oreank

    4 жыл бұрын

    In UK, the local dialects are dissapearing?

  • @rawdog314

    @rawdog314

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can hear Welsh just as much as irish

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    4 жыл бұрын

    North Wales accent too.

  • @jcshy

    @jcshy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would have been at one point a mostly thick Lancastrian accent but with the prevalence of the docks people from the north of Wales & families affected by the famine in Ireland all migrated to Liverpool and it marked the birth of the scouse accent

  • @itzandz

    @itzandz

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't think it sounds that different to modern scouse, maybe a bit flatter

  • @wimskey3120
    @wimskey31204 жыл бұрын

    Would anybody be able to answer what communities did about this? I'm curious, so may as well ask people equally as curious about such a topic.

  • @ujoepost
    @ujoepost4 жыл бұрын

    need to fix sound

  • @MrAntiSellOut
    @MrAntiSellOut6 жыл бұрын

    Anything on Liverpool 8's Stanhope Street?

  • @truetothegame2928
    @truetothegame29283 жыл бұрын

    @23:21 all these lad are in their late 60's - respect to vince, trevs, spikey (rip), mason, wons !

  • @elgee6202
    @elgee62023 жыл бұрын

    8:52: It's amazing that as long ago as 1972 there were _fourth_ generation Blacks in Liverpool. This is at a time when most English people outside cities would've barely seen any immigrants, let alone known any. I know someone born after that who didn't see a Black person until she was 8 (in the 1980s). Liverpool has the oldest established Black community in the UK and the oldest Chinese community in Europe. South Shields in Newcastle has had a long-standing Arab (Yemeni) community and Cardiff a lot of Africans, especially Somalis. In Limehouse in east London there used to be local newspapers complaining of Chinese opium dens and drunken brawls between Scandinavian seamen as long back as 1922. Port towns really are demographically and culturally distinct from the rest of the country. Liverpool might have been the least English (given that the Whites there are largely of Irish and Welsh stock) for the longest time. And historically the most left-wing.

  • @bigfletch8

    @bigfletch8

    3 жыл бұрын

    I lived in Tiber Street, off Lodge Lane. A great mix of people moved there after their houses were bombed. My parents lived by Aintree racecourse. I was born in 1950 and there was just one black guy in the neighbourhood. I even remember his name " Ollie"...and one Chinese family running the laundry. The race mixing had an amazing growth, where there was little undertsanding back then. No wonder there was conflict.

  • @angusmeigh5141

    @angusmeigh5141

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am sure this video is not from 1972. It looks more like 1978 or 1979.

  • @lennon1482

    @lennon1482

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@angusmeigh5141 in 78 everyone had wedge cuts and adidas

  • @godsson7787

    @godsson7787

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@angusmeigh5141 made me think when he was talking about skinhead tension.

  • @ultimatemagic2125

    @ultimatemagic2125

    10 ай бұрын

    I can relate to this. I was born in 1979 raised in Plymouth, I didnt see a black person until I was at school when I was 5 and he was bullied relentlessly. He was my mate. Never seen another black person for years after he left school. The 80's in Plymouth was 99% white with occasional Chinese and Indian. Now, with the uni, it's extremely diverse. I cant imagine people growing up now would understand what it was like to never see a black person for the first maybe decade of your life.

  • @antonbless
    @antonbless6 жыл бұрын

    Pool man had it rough back then! That’s why rate them man was in pen with a good few back in the early 90s Shower brothers had it on lock 🔐 then!! Warren was linked to Leeds to big C..🔐

  • @truthbtoldwright6411

    @truthbtoldwright6411

    4 жыл бұрын

    @dominic clarke Lol, says the red skin boy. At least they know their history and who they are related to. Irish and Black's have been mixing since the 18th century in Liverpool.

  • @SniffMyDeadwax

    @SniffMyDeadwax

    4 жыл бұрын

    Barbara, get me an interpreter.

  • @RANITAJINTERNATIONAL
    @RANITAJINTERNATIONAL3 жыл бұрын

    Wonder what they would say to each other if you sat some of these people down with each other today.

  • @bobbywaldron2337

    @bobbywaldron2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    most of us were talking to each other a couple of weeks later

  • @meonly8071

    @meonly8071

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbywaldron2337 We spoke with our skinhead tormentors

  • @highburyhoops6074

    @highburyhoops6074

    4 ай бұрын

    Would love a repeat interview

  • @mikewillis44
    @mikewillis443 жыл бұрын

    Catch a train and see how much open land there is about.Cramming people into boxes will always bring trouble.People get tired of living on top of one another and not getting a moments peace.This causes an underlying stress.

  • @Tayloradrift

    @Tayloradrift

    3 ай бұрын

    So if immigration was controlled then there would be more houses?

  • @tripleq7888
    @tripleq78884 жыл бұрын

    My mum is mixed raced and was born in Liverpool in 1970 no wonder she moved to London when she was 6 lol

  • @jethrookoh1218

    @jethrookoh1218

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm black and still in Liverpool I'm 20 it's ok now not great like

  • @backstreetboy1122
    @backstreetboy11225 жыл бұрын

    They’re not skins, they’re suedes, after 1970 they started to die down and evolved into suedeheads and bootboys.

  • @rossmorebaz
    @rossmorebaz3 жыл бұрын

    hard to believe that this was almost 50 years ago already .. half a century later .. I hope things are better

  • @jordanspark5396

    @jordanspark5396

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing better it's actually got worse in the UK .

  • @andrewdaley3081

    @andrewdaley3081

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jordanspark5396 your right it hhas gotten worse. 🇬🇧👍

  • @jethrookoh1218

    @jethrookoh1218

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm from Liverpool Scotland Road I've never had a racist experience but can't speak for everyone. Hopefully things gey better but u can tell white and black don't mix

  • @rawcuss3447

    @rawcuss3447

    8 ай бұрын

    Bigoted city…

  • @Tayloradrift

    @Tayloradrift

    3 ай бұрын

    No chance it's worse

  • @Davidnumber23
    @Davidnumber233 жыл бұрын

    "the coloureds" dear me.... Rigsby! .. Respect to that British Subject lady.

  • @garyrigby21

    @garyrigby21

    11 ай бұрын

    everyone spoke like that in those days

  • @Davidnumber23

    @Davidnumber23

    10 ай бұрын

    @@garyrigby21 yes and education has improved very little to this day.

  • @Tayloradrift

    @Tayloradrift

    Ай бұрын

    It was 1972, idiot!

  • @nguyendailam6703
    @nguyendailam670311 ай бұрын

    Broadcast on ITV @ 21:00 on Thursday 17th August 1972.

  • @seniorscouse1984
    @seniorscouse19842 жыл бұрын

    9 years later fighting side by side against police

  • @pauldonnelly3179

    @pauldonnelly3179

    Ай бұрын

    A temporary alliance and tbh blacks and Asians are still not welcome down Scotty

  • @matthewhall1172
    @matthewhall1172 Жыл бұрын

    Things will only get worse in modern Britain as people are struggling to find ‘genuinely affordable’ housing.

  • @tommyedwards3730
    @tommyedwards37304 жыл бұрын

    wow! 1972 hair styles.....wonderful memories and of course rebellion/

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    1972 hairstyles- peculiar!

  • @thebadtemperedbrit
    @thebadtemperedbrit8 жыл бұрын

    I love Rachel Tension, she's my favourite drag performer ;-)

  • @thebadtemperedbrit

    @thebadtemperedbrit

    4 жыл бұрын

    @YSWG1 Thank you, thank you very much, I'm here all week & my merchandise is available in the lobby ;-)

  • @dean6816
    @dean6816 Жыл бұрын

    3:26 is that Combo?

  • @jimmanycricket3756
    @jimmanycricket37564 жыл бұрын

    Wait till the corkhills move in

  • @BuzzsawMG42

    @BuzzsawMG42

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who are the corkhills?

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BuzzsawMG42 Brookside. Before your time

  • @MsErikdeking

    @MsErikdeking

    2 жыл бұрын

    The place will go to the dog's if that lot is movin in

  • @bigfletch8
    @bigfletch83 жыл бұрын

    I lived in Tiber Street, off Lodge Lane. A great mix of people moved there after their houses were bombed. My parents lived by Aintree racecourse. I was born in 1950 and there was just one black guy in the neighbourhood. I even remember his name " Ollie"...and one Chinese family running the laundry. The race mixing had an amazing growth, where there was little undertsanding back then. No wonder there was conflict.

  • @lillyrose1545

    @lillyrose1545

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats cool hope you didnt have anything aginst them too

  • @bigfletch8

    @bigfletch8

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lillyrose1545 We all grew up on stories of the " goodies and the baddies" and was often racially based, so when you actually meet those images in real form, two directions emerge. One is you can see there was no substance in the previous " story" and two, you act as though those images were accurate. Its all about layers of consciousness.

  • @lillyrose1545

    @lillyrose1545

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigfletch8 i guess but i just want all of us to feel happy with eachother and appreciate our differences we all don't have time to be ignorant this is too both sides of the story and all have a good day mate

  • @EthansCONN
    @EthansCONN3 жыл бұрын

    Folk never get on, never will. Don't know why different colours are forced to live like this. I feel bad for the White and Black lads!

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Poverty and social deprivation always exacerbate racialism.

  • @sarahfemi9862

    @sarahfemi9862

    3 жыл бұрын

    Racism and segregation and cultural differences will always be a issue this is why most people don't integrate in the UK even locals .

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sarahfemi9862 Cultural differences create problems in all parts if the world, not just in the UK.

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Folks can never get on if they never learn to respect each other's differences.

  • @thomasbeattie2257
    @thomasbeattie22574 жыл бұрын

    I remember some of these guys i used to run Outcrowd Scooter boys and a few guys like (Mad) Mick Blaney from Myrtle Gardens and a few more were members but strangely never had a problem with the black young guys our age. I remember hanging with Real Thing when they were just starting out in L8. Still i have great memories of the times. (Tommy Haggis)

  • @thomasbeattie2257

    @thomasbeattie2257

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dorian Graye He is pure Scouse from Myrtle Gardens.

  • @thomasbeattie2257

    @thomasbeattie2257

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Bas Lomhorst We sure did! Happy days.

  • @km99999
    @km999995 жыл бұрын

    These are local, and not newcomers, anyway they are grandads now .

  • @southlondon86
    @southlondon867 жыл бұрын

    Powerful video!

  • @ashleyoasis7948
    @ashleyoasis79485 жыл бұрын

    It’s the EDLs grandparents

  • @booma3069

    @booma3069

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ashley Oasis 😂😂😂

  • @krystjanchanerley9288

    @krystjanchanerley9288

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ashley Oasis yeah right

  • @leonarddavies288

    @leonarddavies288

    4 жыл бұрын

    EDL are not racist just against islam

  • @ashleyoasis7948

    @ashleyoasis7948

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leonard Davies that’s just there dog whistle to attack brown ppl from foreign countries

  • @zapre2284

    @zapre2284

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ashleyoasis7948 Nope

  • @luckyking42
    @luckyking425 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or do I see a lot of similarities between New York and London

  • @luckyking42

    @luckyking42

    5 жыл бұрын

    @dominic clarke thanks for telling me but I was going based off interview I seen in the Bronx during that same time the way they wear their afros the way to get interviewed and the way also answering the interviews questions the whole gang situation seems so similar to what was going on and the Bronx.

  • @ashleyoasis7948

    @ashleyoasis7948

    5 жыл бұрын

    London is now londonstan lol 😆

  • @unknownfrvr6767

    @unknownfrvr6767

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lucky luckelson yeah it is , we created gangs to protect ourselves just like black Americans did but yet them blame us for having gangs when it was there fault we have them in the first place

  • @ashleyoasis7948

    @ashleyoasis7948

    4 жыл бұрын

    The UK has more Muslims than Blacks but there not Muslims from Syria like the rest if the world but mainley from India and Pakistan due to common wealth so there not middle Eastren but still Muslim

  • @unknownfrvr6767

    @unknownfrvr6767

    4 жыл бұрын

    Journey To Valhalla most of us blacks are from countries that were CREATED by your people , we are from slave societies ... so I don't care what you think because we colonised u just like the Muslims did , we have robbed u for ur culture and heritage forever

  • @barbaraannecortina7899
    @barbaraannecortina78997 жыл бұрын

    sound quality on this is shite!

  • @jayday4795

    @jayday4795

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's from the 70s... what were you expecting Dolby suround sound 🤔

  • @aloheyio6335

    @aloheyio6335

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure u'll make better SOUND babes

  • @user-ce1lm2gg3c
    @user-ce1lm2gg3c3 жыл бұрын

    why is the sound so low

  • @sacandarmhagrh8911

    @sacandarmhagrh8911

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yo

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sacandarmhagrh8911I have to turn the sound up for the video and then the ads break in at ear-splitting sound.

  • @starwonder8324
    @starwonder83243 жыл бұрын

    WHAT COLOUR IS YOUR BLOOD???? WHITE.. OR RED???

  • @eckeynecker
    @eckeynecker5 жыл бұрын

    This was all being demolished when i lived there in the late 80s .

  • @life_seeker6102

    @life_seeker6102

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was it the new build council estates featured in the film being demolished or the Victorian terraces?

  • @sirphineasluciusambercromb9114
    @sirphineasluciusambercromb91144 жыл бұрын

    Liverpudlians of all colours have grown and matured since those days. Thank goodness.

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    4 жыл бұрын

    @andrew chambers I’m sorry for your loss, Andrew.

  • @Djdjduhehshehhrh

    @Djdjduhehshehhrh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Unknown2234 Unknown liverpool is still pretty racist. It likes to paint itself as welcoming to everyone...and most people are... but there's still a very racist element within the city.

  • @Djdjduhehshehhrh

    @Djdjduhehshehhrh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Unknown2234 Unknown i've only been on the receiving end of racist abuse in two cities in the world, Liverpool and Manchester. Look at the aftermath of the evra suarez argument.... even the lfc fans were caught en masse shoutjng racist stuff/ doing monkey impressions.... anthony walkers murder.... check for merseyside right wing groups/ members. Are you actually non-white yourself or white and have just fooled yourself into thinking the place is fine. Im not saying its terrible. I lived there long enough...only left 5 months ago. But to claim it doesnt have a racist underbelly is patently false.

  • @user-sw4go6vc5s

    @user-sw4go6vc5s

    3 жыл бұрын

    The youth is so much more ignorant now , I wlukd of preferred to grow up in 1972 in liverpool than now

  • @ernstvanstangl1048

    @ernstvanstangl1048

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Djdjduhehshehhrh I'm Mancunian. Irish mother and Barbadian father. Lived in Liverpool and got shite for being a Manc. No racial experiences however.

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles7 жыл бұрын

    Lookit dat Afro !

  • @bohsgerry
    @bohsgerry3 жыл бұрын

    coupla things those white youth were bootboys not "skinheads" as skinheads had died out by 1972 being replaced by suedeheads which one of the lads was(shorter haired lad with cut face)and bootboys like the rest but as contributers below have said was a GENERAL term for white rowdies or "gurriers"/corner boys.Any of John Tanners books give a great insight into THAT SCENE in Liverpool in the early '70's.Also the Dublin terms youse,gobshite and half mad have been used in Liverpool since time immomorial.EVERTON were always seen as the IRISH supported team in the city despite there being a strong ORANGE LODGE community in Everton and a srong loyalist community in Merseyside.

  • @YJB8CCFC

    @YJB8CCFC

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought Liverpool had the stronger Irish and socialist support, whereas Everton were more loyalist and right leaning. Their abuse of John Barnes in the 1987 league cup match at Anfield also gave me that impression at the time.

  • @JayEFC1969

    @JayEFC1969

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@YJB8CCFC Liverpool had very few Irish players compared to Everton until the 80s whether deliberate or not I don't know. Racial abuse was as prevalent on the kop as anywhere until Barnes signed for Liverpool.

  • @martinodonnell2501
    @martinodonnell25013 жыл бұрын

    the first guy talking shows you Jessie lingard in the 70's

  • @lodersracing
    @lodersracing3 жыл бұрын

    The whites are coloured too lol

  • @newjerseyyouth4853

    @newjerseyyouth4853

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sad!

  • @newjerseyyouth4853

    @newjerseyyouth4853

    2 жыл бұрын

    One love!

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles3 жыл бұрын

    @1:43 - Look how I balance my hat on top of my Afro !

  • @garyrigby21
    @garyrigby2111 ай бұрын

    i grew up in this area just off Tunnel rd, Edge hill and same age as those kids but i don't recognise anyone! we had the Penny wreck in Earle rd

  • @partycrasher854
    @partycrasher8542 жыл бұрын

    This was 50 years ago!

  • @kamranhashmi1575

    @kamranhashmi1575

    21 күн бұрын

    52 yrs now

  • @albear972
    @albear9725 жыл бұрын

    GB is still paying for their massive colonialism. Short term profits from 1600's-1800's led to stuff like this.

  • @sojiadamo5212

    @sojiadamo5212

    4 жыл бұрын

    albear972 even though it's a lot longer, 1600-1800 is no short term!

  • @TextBookPuncher1

    @TextBookPuncher1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reece A bullshit GB is built on immigration.

  • @feministwitch1402

    @feministwitch1402

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nonsense. There's nothing wrong with black ppl so no price is being paid!

  • @krystjanchanerley9288

    @krystjanchanerley9288

    2 жыл бұрын

    How ?

  • @MrResearcher122
    @MrResearcher1224 жыл бұрын

    So called White guy with tam is mixed- you can see Africa in him. Camera man knew it as well. But working class Liverpool-black n white-articulate, tough,and real. Most are Irish blooded, including blacks.

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Welsh and Scottish and German and Jewish and…

  • @MrResearcher122

    @MrResearcher122

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emil_rainbow And Nigerian, Sierra Leonean,Ghanaian.

  • @phantompage4304

    @phantompage4304

    3 жыл бұрын

    Timestamp?

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrResearcher122 True.

  • @gezbo66
    @gezbo663 ай бұрын

    If I was born in another country but was not the same ethnicity and they did not like me I would leave immediately. In he end being among my own on my own soil is better for my soul and well being.

  • @gratefuldead3750

    @gratefuldead3750

    6 күн бұрын

    Most of these kids were born when the brit.carrebean was under British rule.

  • @miccheck6478
    @miccheck64785 ай бұрын

    I don’t think an outnumbered set of people would decide to take on the majority but obviously you will respond to aggression

  • @scottphree1232
    @scottphree12327 жыл бұрын

    Is that a man with the curlers ?

  • @svenskpolitik4458

    @svenskpolitik4458

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is a muslim.

  • @FHIPrincePeter

    @FHIPrincePeter

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes it's Dick Emery ! If not you can see where he got his inspiration from.

  • @therespectedlex9794

    @therespectedlex9794

    5 жыл бұрын

    Gruene Wald Wrong city

  • @therespectedlex9794

    @therespectedlex9794

    5 жыл бұрын

    The commies were getting a bit short of actors.

  • @TheBlackcular

    @TheBlackcular

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was a bloke I think a Teddy Boy getting ready for the weekend.

  • @spudhead1161
    @spudhead11613 жыл бұрын

    The women were rough as F down the South end in them days, Well better in the north end.

  • @azazel1893
    @azazel189310 ай бұрын

    13:41 their names were John and Jean Hughes of 23d Windsor Gardens.

  • @07786013535
    @077860135353 жыл бұрын

    i wonder how many of these lot are still around and where doing what (still fighting racism or settled down )

  • @lardy70s

    @lardy70s

    2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of them will be dead now. Almost 50 years ago that this was filmed. Life flies over in a blink of an eye.

  • @kay-marie1076
    @kay-marie10762 жыл бұрын

    Liverpool has the longest and oldest black community since the 1700's do your research.

  • @YJB8CCFC

    @YJB8CCFC

    Жыл бұрын

    Poor buggers, having to live in that shithole

  • @LonnellRich

    @LonnellRich

    3 ай бұрын

    Slavery

  • @englishpatriot9464

    @englishpatriot9464

    2 ай бұрын

    You talk a load of BS 😂

  • @LonnellRich

    @LonnellRich

    2 ай бұрын

    @@englishpatriot9464 liverpool was a port to import slaves to england.. thhis is true

  • @yvngleanoa2137

    @yvngleanoa2137

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LonnellRich maybe you should do more history on Europe buddy. Blacks been in Europe for centuries

  • @2jcward
    @2jcward2 жыл бұрын

    As an American - they sound Irish to me.

  • @jimmyonebomb

    @jimmyonebomb

    Жыл бұрын

    its called scouse mate. Is an accent massively influenced by irish migration

  • @pauldonnelly3179

    @pauldonnelly3179

    Ай бұрын

    So do many Americans around New York and Boston

  • @TA-ik3kf
    @TA-ik3kf3 жыл бұрын

    The lady at 18:30 🕡 said she was born in the UK 32 years ago. That would make it 1940, that’s pretty early; I dint know immigrants were there that early?

  • @max-un7rt

    @max-un7rt

    3 жыл бұрын

    people have been immigrating to the UK for hundreds of years, they could also be descendants of slaves brought to the UK in the 17th and 18th century

  • @TA-ik3kf

    @TA-ik3kf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@max-un7rt That would make her unique as most in this video are 1st to 3rd generation Caribbean immigrants.

  • @quantro65

    @quantro65

    3 жыл бұрын

    You'll find that those port cities had black people in the 19th century due to the sailors from Africa & the Caribbean setting down with a English lady.

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@quantro65 the original Chinese district in Liverpool and London were also dominated by males, so they also usually settled down with British women and had mixed race children. Indian, Somali, Adenese, etc sailors and sea men in British port cities were the same.

  • @quantro65

    @quantro65

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@simonyip5978 thanks for that info . People from different nations have been settling in the uk for centuries. Nothing wrong with that, my parents were immigrants who came here in 1960..

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles3 жыл бұрын

    LOL ! He asks the black guys who's been arrested - ME, ME, ME ,ME ,ME, ME, ME !!!

  • @battyjr

    @battyjr

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish he'd asked the other group the same question as well.

  • @flake452
    @flake4523 жыл бұрын

    When you have poor people being forced to share the very little they have with an outgroup of course there is going to be hostility.

  • @welshlad6427
    @welshlad64275 жыл бұрын

    Reporter....what do you think of the coloured kids 🤔

  • @veriteinternational

    @veriteinternational

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is the conscious bias my friend.

  • @zapre2284

    @zapre2284

    2 жыл бұрын

    As opposed to the people of colour kids ?

  • @barryirlandi4217
    @barryirlandi42172 жыл бұрын

    Smashing windows.. Seems to be the way to start a fight

  • @gazriley624
    @gazriley6246 жыл бұрын

    Those white lads were from Earle rd going the penny wreck ha ha

  • @user-rw1ii4oc5q

    @user-rw1ii4oc5q

    5 жыл бұрын

    Earle rd aint white no more is it.

  • @angusmeigh5141
    @angusmeigh51412 жыл бұрын

    This looks more like 1978 than 1972. I am sure this video is not from 1972!

  • @mikeymc3094

    @mikeymc3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’d rememba that new estate goin up round 1970-76

  • @mikeymc3094

    @mikeymc3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @David S Hey Dave 66 now Where did it all go hey mate am 63 remember like it was only a few years ago I was 18

  • @mikeymc3094

    @mikeymc3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @David S Oh the point I was txt Am white Scouse but I think Afros shud come back I thort they looked so cool

  • @mikeymc3094

    @mikeymc3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @David S Ha I remember everyone on ur list mate We might be gettin old Dave but nobody can take our memories

  • @mikeymc3094

    @mikeymc3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    @David S The girl who became my future wife fancied Donny like mad haha I think she’d dump me even today if he knocked on our door an asked her out

  • @starwonder8324
    @starwonder83243 жыл бұрын

    "FROM GANGS TO GOD" BY RON HALVERSON TRUE AMAZING POWERFUL STORY FROM THE BRONX CONEY ISLAND ENJOY 🙏🏿💯😀❤️

  • @dannywlm63
    @dannywlm634 жыл бұрын

    Since when has selling drugs and being a pimp been illegal?

  • @daisychain3007

    @daisychain3007

    3 жыл бұрын

    There were drugs openly sold and pimps in 1972, Danny?

  • @enskeez6815

    @enskeez6815

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daisychain3007 NOPE but you know why he said it lol…

  • @affectionatepunch
    @affectionatepunch4 жыл бұрын

    13:48 Lily Savages mum was quite a looker in her day 😖😖😖

  • @paulambrose1979

    @paulambrose1979

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

  • @andygeorgiou661
    @andygeorgiou6613 жыл бұрын

    Interesting documentary they have all got a Irish twang to there accents, God them estates look terrible.

  • @peterevans3504
    @peterevans35043 жыл бұрын

    Can't hear a bloody thing

  • @harrisonware5331
    @harrisonware53313 жыл бұрын

    Who’s here from exe college

  • @daveedwards8522
    @daveedwards85226 жыл бұрын

    Who's that Guy with the Afro.. Very articulate..

  • @antonbless

    @antonbless

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dave Edwards Delroy Showers!!

  • @billsykes9605

    @billsykes9605

    3 жыл бұрын

    She’s not a lad, she’s a girl 😂😂

  • @sedwards8870
    @sedwards88706 жыл бұрын

    Raaaaaaaaaaàaaaaâaaaaaaaaaas ! Ena Ogden at 13, 40 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @dogdayaftertaste

    @dogdayaftertaste

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hilda :)

  • @starwonder8324
    @starwonder83243 жыл бұрын

    WHERE IS THE LOVE TO YOUR FELLOW HUMANITY???

  • @meonly8071
    @meonly80713 жыл бұрын

    Joey Barton lookalike 2.10

  • @abdulmumin6251
    @abdulmumin62513 жыл бұрын

    13.51 bobby davro

  • @darrilynbradley9624
    @darrilynbradley96243 жыл бұрын

    Were is your queen to help these people this world is fucked

  • @MrIrrepressible

    @MrIrrepressible

    3 жыл бұрын

    Queen doesnt care

  • @Beamboy555

    @Beamboy555

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrIrrepressible queens to busy counting the cash she steals from tax

  • @TrueBrit1
    @TrueBrit13 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing to see how in some respects things have changed significantly since those days (back then there were very few cars, appalling dilapidated homes, such poverty and mass unemployment, and generally much more relaxed attitudes to different races today compared to then), yet some things have barely changed (Police do nothing, no Bobbies on the beat, politicians and councils have let the people down). Quite fascinating actually. Lots more cars there now, but most of them are on bricks now..................................... :)

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea I see what you are saying. However, we'll be going backwards soon. 1. Brexit will mean increase in tension (already has started) 2. Covid-19 with millions unemployed will also cause an increase in tension

  • @paulburns1333

    @paulburns1333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like your brain.

  • @lmtt123

    @lmtt123

    3 жыл бұрын

    It hasn't changed at all around there

  • @gerbilkicker
    @gerbilkicker4 жыл бұрын

    Bit quiet

  • @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081
    @keepingitrealandtruthful.50814 жыл бұрын

    History is slowly repeating itself if we're not careful.

  • @tudormiller8898

    @tudormiller8898

    4 жыл бұрын

    You don't get no bovver these days mate. It's all water under the bridge.

  • @anythingrandom8598

    @anythingrandom8598

    4 жыл бұрын

    Negative. This shit never stopped

  • @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081

    @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Laura Nwogu No one said it stopped. I said it's repeating itself again.

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    mrtheoneandonly 83 You mean Brexit will bring Tension ? has it not already started.

  • @spidyman8853

    @spidyman8853

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@keepingitrealandtruthful.5081 Yep, It hasn't gone away. It's very much still here. In the late 90s it went underground. Now with imminent Brexit, it reared its ugly head. I'm sure more surprises on the way head.

  • @bobbywaldron2337
    @bobbywaldron23373 жыл бұрын

    That was me in the "hat" still here 48 year's later

  • @genevievedolan1288

    @genevievedolan1288

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am curious as to which one is you....there were a lot of boys with hats in the last segment

  • @bobbywaldron2337

    @bobbywaldron2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genevievedolan1288 the one doing most of the talking next to the guy with the plaster on his face

  • @genevievedolan1288

    @genevievedolan1288

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbywaldron2337 you were a good looking boy! Seriously, it is so affirming to see and hear the many intelligent, humane and considered opinions almost everyone was offering...so many strong people, enduring hardship with grace and kindness...I hope you are doing well, and I wonder what happened to the other people?

  • @bobbywaldron2337

    @bobbywaldron2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genevievedolan1288 hi Genevieve, lovely name and thanks for the compliments, i've led quite a colourful life since those days and enjoyed every moment of it, sadly a few of the lads on the video are no longer with us, the black lads and most of us all ended up friends again not much later, but the young lad to the left of me ended up serving 35 years in prison only released a couple of years ago, hope your well best regards Bobby

  • @genevievedolan1288

    @genevievedolan1288

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbywaldron2337 Hi, and thank you for the reply. I am glad to hear you went on to have a good and colorful life and it is good to hear you that you and the black lads were friends most of the time, despite the occasional flare-ups. I am sorry to hear about the young man who ended up in prison for so long though, and that there are those who have already passed on. I hope you are keeping well and safe in this strange time. Glad you like my name!

  • @Sunakfilth
    @Sunakfilth6 жыл бұрын

    Volume....SHITE

  • @sojiadamo5212

    @sojiadamo5212

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vya2 boang ikaw must you always complain? Anyway I'm coming round later so get dinner ready....😘😎

  • @vixen1143
    @vixen11434 жыл бұрын

    I watch this and see how the 2 sides say the same things about each other. Maybe with the current protests in 2020 more people can try harder to see things from the other's point of view. I'd would be interested to see if the people interviewed think things have changed for the better or if they feel it just as bad.

  • @kasheem1747

    @kasheem1747

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rosanna Blake 🧐 when 2 sides are fighting each other usually theirs someone in the middle instigating it ....

  • @johnrose3213

    @johnrose3213

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great comment

  • @zapre2284

    @zapre2284

    2 жыл бұрын

    Protests ? You mean the leftist race riots in the US ? Keep that crap out of this city please

  • @aloheyio6335

    @aloheyio6335

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good question

  • @anthonyhulse1248
    @anthonyhulse12487 ай бұрын

    How come the “skin heads” all had hair?

  • @marklynch5149
    @marklynch5149 Жыл бұрын

    A poor diet & neglect can be seen clearly on those childrens faces 2:16 to 3:55

  • @feministwitch1402
    @feministwitch14022 жыл бұрын

    "Why do you think they come after you?" " because we're black "

  • @alanjax7685
    @alanjax7685 Жыл бұрын

    they dont like us and we dont like them simple! why make a big drama out of it?

  • @leolicursi3536
    @leolicursi35363 жыл бұрын

    Scouse comes from Norwegian shipmen

  • @philipcurnow7990

    @philipcurnow7990

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bit of Italian a well IMO

  • @jcshy

    @jcshy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It doesn’t

  • @leolicursi3536

    @leolicursi3536

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jcshy its not irish. If you think it is you havent done much research

  • @jimmyonebomb

    @jimmyonebomb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leolicursi3536 the scran does yeh, not the accent though

  • @emil_rainbow
    @emil_rainbow4 жыл бұрын

    The lad in the white gang with the bonnet (22.42 ) has african features fo sure.

  • @Marco-bi9rb

    @Marco-bi9rb

    3 жыл бұрын

    How?🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Marco-bi9rb The shape of his eyes, lips, cheek bones, jaw line. Looks a like beautiful Brazilian.

  • @bobbywaldron2337

    @bobbywaldron2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emil_rainbow thanks very much i've changed a bit since then

  • @emil_rainbow

    @emil_rainbow

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbywaldron2337 Well done Bobby, Lah. Goodness me, incredible! A bit surreal, eh? Was I on to something with my observation?

  • @bobbywaldron2337

    @bobbywaldron2337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emil_rainbow spanish basque grandmother

  • @joeteddy3061
    @joeteddy30614 жыл бұрын

    If I’m not mistaken the guy at 2:27 name is Curly Woods

  • @vinnyvincent2862

    @vinnyvincent2862

    4 жыл бұрын

    is that freddie starr at 3.20 . 😄

  • @mybeautifulview

    @mybeautifulview

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, Curly isn’t there x

  • @jamescullen2448

    @jamescullen2448

    3 жыл бұрын

    Curly and jimbo were Earle rd , great days ,

  • @tkeating2561

    @tkeating2561

    3 жыл бұрын

    hello mate, im a scouse filmmaker that grew up in the 90s around toxteth, im interested to speak to a couple of them now as a comparison. could you help me in this? my mail is tedkeating8@gmail.com