This was great! My son got over his 'long covid' too by accepting it was a form of Mind Body Syndrome and doing the work he needed to do. I am so grateful that he has got his life back! Keep sharing these stories. People have a hard time believing that breathing exercises, meditation, brain training and movement can get get you out of it. Also, in his case an anti inflammatory diet helped as well!

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

So pleased for your son. I also ate a very healthy diet for a while (most of the time) but didn’t eliminate anything except coffee and alcohol. I have now re introduced these again

@liamo54321

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelwhitfield hey Rachel wondering any way I can get contact with you suffering with long covid

A month after covid my Dr office receptionist over the phone said: youre a Long Hauler! My dr never said it. My extensive tests showed zero anything negative! But i spiraled outa control peaking june july. Fatigued nausea headaches tendonitis numb feet eye flashes & more. Thankyou Rachel great story & insights Im gaining ground in Dan’s zoom Wed call. Its the immovable object vs the irresistible force. FEAR (pain symptoms) vs calm accurate knowledge. The latter must win for all of us because its The Truth

Very reckonizable proces. It took me 1,5 year to recover and now after 2,5 year I can do work out, run and live life as before covid. Very inspiring this. I sort of came to the same conclusion as Rachel in my recoveryproces. Long covid is not forever.

@creepybastard1988

Жыл бұрын

What took you so long? Bad neighbourhoods?

@ezza1236

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment I’ve had so many up and downs with this, reading comments like this makes me so confident

@metteklint4790

Жыл бұрын

You Are welcome. 😊

@ianmilnes4019

Жыл бұрын

I’m at 1.5 years now. Better but not 100%. Scared I won’t make a full recovery now. Up and down with the belief that it’s mind body. Did you have PEM?

@metteklint4790

Жыл бұрын

@@ianmilnes4019 oh yes! If I drove a car, i would get excorsted and short of breath. If I emptied the dish washer, the same. And if I tried to go for a run, i would colapse on the couch, with fatigue, shortness of breath etc and often it broke though maybe half an our or later after the run it self. And lasted for a coulple of days. Today i have been to the gym for an hour doing weigth lifting, yesterday dancing for 40 minutes, on manday the gym again. I live like before the damn virus. Finally. But the mindset is important, the take-it-easy-you-just-live-with-it. Dont fight it. Then slowly you adapt and walk side by side with it instead of fighting and loosing All the time. The loosing wears you down. Good Luck ❤️

I have listened to this video over and over again whenever I need reassurance that I will recover. ❤️thanks Rachel!

Dan , keep Doing long covid videos, so many people need it

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Let me say that Rachel has been monumental in helping LC sufferers in various online forums. She’s always so available and is a wealth of knowledge. I’m so glad she got to share her story! Thanks Dan

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

That's great. When I spoke to her, she made it clear she wants to help as many people as possible.

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

ahh. Thanks so much. That means the world to me. Always happy to help

Thank you for sharing your story Rachel - this can be a scary path, but you are proof that there is a way out. Fear is the thing which keeps it going and we are warriors dealing with this every day. I wish you well for the future 😊x

@paulamorphett9131

Жыл бұрын

It definitely is a scary path , we will get there 😊 🤗

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Yes fear (and beliefs which drive the fear) keep it going !!

@jackiegroden416

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelwhitfield how can we access your blog? What a great interview… u are me!

This interview has given me new life. I’ve had self-diagnosed CFS since 2020. I recovered and then a year later I’m back down again. Though this time it looks a little different. I had looked into TMS several times but couldn’t quite fit it for CFS since pain is not my issue. I read part of The Divided Mind a few days ago and started getting into the idea again. Then this woman in this interview responded to question I had in Nicole Sach’s group. She linked this video and it clicked for me. After the interview I said I am ok and always have been. I got up, took a shower,did some other things and barely any symptoms have shown up. I came to the conclusion I have anxiety that needs to be resolved and my body is fine. Wow! Thank you for posting this interview. I felt like I could finally relate and I removed myself from all “bad neighborhoods”. I felt so much lighter after I did.

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic. Thrilled that the video was helpful.

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

I’m so so pleased for you xxxx

Oh ....wow...I've literally only watched 1/4 of this video so far and it's gotta be one of THE best success stories I've seen, all the insights Rachel had. I've got the label cfs but after finding out about tms earlier this year I 100% think long covid and cfs are all just the same thing really- tms. The stuff she was talking about with being told by others of "the spoon theory " and stuff like your mitochondria being effected and that your exercise intolerant etc is also 100% what you get told in the cfs world. It's literally so hard letting go of all these things you've been taught by professionals , they r basically limiting beliefs which create predictive coding and expectations of symptoms thru fear and fear of "crashing " just like you were both saying . Thank you Dan and Rachel soo much for this amazing interview 🦄🙌 I think this could help alot of ppl if they are open to the gold nuggets 😉

@creepybastard1988

Жыл бұрын

Get out of the cfs groups. Got long covid and in the cfs groups they are predictive coding a lot. 'Don't do that or you will feel worse!!" And ques what happens......we do things and we are feeling worse because it is 'expected'. Dan calls it 'nocebo'. If you expect bad things after activity your brain will say:'here you are...like YOU REQUESTED!'. I left the cfs groups and work on my fear only now by understanding that my symptons are perceived danger symptons.

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - please share far and wide. It’s only after recovery that I realised quite how much fear and the ME narrative had influenced me. There really is a way out. I’ve seen it again and again in the last few months.

@meganobrien1019

Жыл бұрын

@@creepybastard1988 hey fin exactly ! I was literally only in cfs groups for maybe 3 weeks total over a year ago 🤣 pretty soon realized they were the worst thing I could b doing ! Then I found Dan's channel this year and have been focusing on the fear, like u have, ever since👍🦄 best of luck with ur journey

@creepybastard1988

Жыл бұрын

@@meganobrien1019 Yeah! Exactly!! Sometimes i think they are creating nocebo's on purpose so that we ware so anxious that we will spend thousands of dollars to join their 'recovery programs'. They were using words like 'crash' and were saying that 'adjustment periods' were normal(!) after expanding activity'. I was so anxious that i had continues 'adjustment periods' that time. Since i left the groups i feel relieved. I have symptons but much better to handle because i know it is perceived danger symptons and i try fear less because it is the brain creating the symptons. In time the symptons will slowly fade away if you try to stay calm and don't pay too much attention to it. I wish u so much luck with your journey too!!

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Megan.

Superb recovery story, well done Rachel - truly inspiring 👏👏

Wonderful, wonderful interview. Rachel articulates really well the up and down recovery process, and the struggle to break free from fear and worry. So inspiring and I relate so much. Thank you!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Why thank you x

Thank you Rachel great Success Story so inspiring and thank you Dan❤️

Thanks for sharing your story Rachel...very inspiring. Thanks to you too Dan for bringing us her story. I know there are many more stories like this in the world due to Covid.

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

Thanks Rachel and Dan. I needed this.

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

Pacing is important. Trust me on that.

Thank you Dan and Rachel, for sharing your experience, these vidios are always inspiring 🤗

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

SO inspiring Rachel. THANKYOU for sharing your story. x

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome

Omgosh Rachel is so awesome! She is so interesting to listen to! What a great video!!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Ahh thanks !! X

Thankyou Rachel and Dan for sharing your success story . Absolutely needed to hear this especially today I'm in that up and down cycle at the mo ,I will 100% take on board not paying too much to my thinking 🙏😊 take care and have a lovely day too you both 🤗😊

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Thanks Rachel and Dan💯I can’t wait to share my story when I am fully recovered. This really helps people👍❤️

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

You got this! If you want some direct help, consider the group coaching. www.PainFreeYou.com/join

You super star Rachel well done. Thank you for explaining your story so articulately

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Ahh thanks back

OMG - thank you Rachel and Dan for a fantastic SS - I could relate to it all. To paraphrase the song, I felt you found my letters and read each one out loud. Nicole Sachs - pregrieving - that’s me!!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Yes that pre grieving Nicole episode was a game changer for me

Thank you for this, I will be passing this around!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Please do. Keen to get the story out. Even if it helps one person. That will be great.

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

Really inspiring story from Rachel!! Rachel- I also experienced the tight feeling in my throat after covid, which I'd never had before. My GP told me it was just anxiety. I've been working on my positive mindset and its definitely improved. But it made me have panic attacks for weeks, it was horrible!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

It’s not “just anxiety” but it is related I think. Pure fear is a better way of describing it. Not surprising after what we have been thro ! But I think then the panic about the symptoms exacerbates the symptoms. Getting out of fear was one of the best things I did xx

@helenw8019

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelwhitfield Yes pure fear is a good way to describe it! It was such a vicious cycle too..symptoms feeding the fear, fear feeding the symptoms! Very hard to break out of. Stories like Rachel's are such a help.

Thank you for your story.

Great video thanks both-just watched on FB. I can relate to so much of what Rachel said and I have a similar experience although cfs not long covid although i believe they are the same thing ie:tms just a different trigger event x i suspect the tight throat thing is a very common anxiety symptom, globus hystericus is the old name but just muscle tension in the throat triggered by anxious thoughts, disappears if you give it little attention x i have also read nicola birds book and done the LP which helped when i had cfs before x thanks again, has reminded me to stay on track x very happy for you Rachel x

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Thanks sarah. Yes, I think you are right about CFS/ME/Long covid etc and also about the throat. Glad you enjoyed the video xx

All viruses can leave you with post viral fatigue. Usually 6weeks should be enough for bodies to recover. Had COVID, lost a stone in a week. No taste and smell three months. Started getting better about month later then I crashed. I now believe that it was TMS. Immune response definitely ramped up especially in my throat area. Sinus issues, doctor said long covid if 4months from start. Eventually went. Got COVID again in August, lost smell and taste changes 3months.

Thank you Rachel❤️! 🙏☺️

One of the best interviews!!! Rachael how can we access your blog?

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

mylongcovidjourney.wordpress.com

Thanks for this long covid video!! Rachel did you had shortness of breath/air hunger too? How did you manage it? Thanks for the inspiring story. Love u both!

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Yes I did. I saw a breathing coach. She said I had dysfunctional rapid chest breathing. I did some breathing exercises which helped hugely x

@clairewaite6571

Жыл бұрын

This helped me too. "Many small breath holds" in particular to build c02 gently. But calming down is the #1 thing that's regulated my breathing. Good luck x

@briechilli4496

8 ай бұрын

@@rachelwhitfieldcan you explain which paticular breathing exercises helped ?

Rest after any viral illness.

@Pain Free You. Dan, a few weeks ago, the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine did a webinar on covid that included a presentation on Long Covid. The presenter said all viral illnesses have a subset of people who have the same kinds of symptoms such as fatigue, post exertional malaise, and other symptoms similar to what they had during the acute phase of the illness. He didn't address the possibility of Mind Body syndrome but it certainly stands to reason that a subset of people would be extremely frightened by their experience and get pulled into the belief system that they're stuck that way now, especially if they get into the bad neighborhoods that reinforce that destructive message.

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Yep - some of the best universities are basically blind to the role of the brain and perceived danger in the creation and continuation of symptoms. Interesting about that presentation. Shame all they did was create more fear and not less.

Hey Dan, love your content! I'm curious what software you use to record your remote podcasts

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Those interviews are done on Zoom. I just record the call and save to my desktop. We edit to put the blue frame and title information into the video and it's done.

@ThePetieProject

Жыл бұрын

@@PainFreeYou Thanks Dan! I'm trying out Riverside FM. Shooting my first podcast this weekend. Zoom seems like a great simple solution if Riverside doesn't work out for me. Would love to have you on the podcast some time once I'm up and running. I'm speaking with a PT for my first Podcast about hypersensitivity of the nervous system and other topics within athletic performance. Many of the concepts I plan to discuss overlap with things you teach. Thanks for all you do for the TMS community. I've benefited from your content as I know many others have. Keep doing what you do!

Doctors do understand infectious disease very well. Chronic life style disease and mental conditions are less well understoid.

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Very true.

Hopefully data will emerge showing if data is different for those vaccinated etc.

I wonder if Rachel can reply, question is did you take any medications to recover ?

@rachelwhitfield

7 ай бұрын

I took some sleeping tablets for a while which helped I took some suppliments which I don’t think helped at all

Rachel talks about sleeping a lot yet she mentions insomnia as a symptom. I am a tad confused.

@rachelwhitfield

7 ай бұрын

To begin with I slept a lot. Really bad fatigue. I then went thro a massive period of insomnia that lasted for months. I was tired but also wired. I’m not sure where the confusion is ? Hopefully that clarifies

@briechilli4496

7 ай бұрын

@@rachelwhitfield yes thank you so much. My insomnia is going on 6 months now without a break. I average 3 hrs a night. I Have tried everything and Sleeping pills dont work. How did you go about your day Rachel ? I am in a vicious cycle, no sleep non functional, dread goes up. I Am desperately looking for encouragement.

@rachelwhitfield

7 ай бұрын

I stopped fighting it. I realised 2 hours is enough for everything to function and that what was making things worse was my worry about it. So I just got up every day and stopped focusing on it.

@briechilli4496

7 ай бұрын

@@rachelwhitfielddid you go exercise during the insomnia period ?

@santeenl

5 ай бұрын

@@briechilli4496noooo

What about Doubt Dan I heard doubt is devil stops people from healing

@PainFreeYou

Жыл бұрын

Doubt Delays Recovery for sure. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5Zpssx8d7XSgrQ.html

@rachelwhitfield

Жыл бұрын

Doubt was a huge factor. As my beliefs got stronger and doubt got less, I got better ;)

@liamo54321

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelwhitfield hey Rachel how you doing wonder is any way I can get in contact with you suffering simpler love connect with you ask more questions please

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