Life long Labour supporter.....I will be voting for the Green party today in my local election.

@tomfinney3416

Жыл бұрын

you aint alone mate just back from voting , went green and i always vote labour

@ursman3ify

Жыл бұрын

​@@tomfinney3416 me too. 👍

@RichardStephens-ee8fm

Жыл бұрын

Broken pledges undermine Democracy vote Green

@notmyname4261

Жыл бұрын

It's a local election, not general. We have some very good Labour councillors who are working miracles despite the tory cuts. I agree with you about the Parliamentary Labour party though and I'll be spoiling my ballot at the general.

@The1980Philip

Жыл бұрын

Great, help the Tories stay in power.

Is anyone starting to get the feeling that Starmer isn't as much of a dead cert to win as was first thought? You can get past a lack of integrity if you have charisma but by abandoning all of his pledges Starmer is proving to have neither.

@FabianMacGintyONeill

Жыл бұрын

Seems to be the case, I suppose it's the usual story, if you try to be a pound-shop rip off of the Tories, people who hate the Tories will be turned off by you and people who like them already will vote for the real deal. That ridiculous ASBO-esque proposal Labour had for letting victims of teenage antisocial behavior choose the punishment was what did it for me, just utter performance politics for the tabloids with no link to the real world.

@Lee_303

Жыл бұрын

When he's not taking advantage of the lead it's obvious he doesn't want it. He's propping up the other side & most probably being paid to do so.

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

Go vote Tory then.

@ianoliver3130

Жыл бұрын

Starmer is history now.

@regvarnie

Жыл бұрын

@@edeledeledel5490 Please clarify. Are you suggesting they vote Blue Tory or Starmer Tory??I appreciate there is precious little difference, apart from the box where you place your X on polling day.

Shame on labour. God help the workers.😭😭😭😭😭

@gazfisher7391

Жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree. The right wing Labour Party will not help the workers. We need to unionise and unite.

“If you can’t keep your promises, don’t make them in the first place” - Kier Starmer, Pledge Breaker

The Labour right have always had an unlimited quantity of "changing circumstances" to avoid radical change.

@BunyanaRed1958

Жыл бұрын

Spot on Phil.

@nik-ev3eh

Жыл бұрын

Corbin,came nowhere near power because....?

@philmartin5689

Жыл бұрын

@@nik-ev3eh because he lives inside your head?

Starmer couldn't do a better job of sabotaging his chances of becoming p.m if he tried.

Rachel “Yeah but, no but” Reeves, the member of the shadow cabinet that chats bare breeze.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Eh?

@stanguy4491

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅 Rachel Reeves,Starmer,Streeting. Utter sociopaths who don't want our vote. Starmer 'I have no time for working class people:. That's 19 million Peoples' votes he does not have the time for them. Reeves: If you are on benefits, the Labour Party is not for you'. Well! The working poor, Disabled, Chronically ill, those looking for work don't appreciate this. "Labour will come down harder than the Tories on those claiming benefits" again not appreciated by Reeves constant swiping at those that have to claim benefits. " Under 25's won't be eligible for benefits is just going to put many 16 year olds who have to leave care homes (where no employment is available) on the streets. Many in between jobs and gig economy in further financial hardship and risk of homelessness. Rachel drastically needs to bin this sociopathic nonsense. Streeting Well! His private health companies' claptrap is not going to win voters since 78% of UK wants full renationalisation of NHS. Threatening 3 constituents is hardly going to make people vote for him either.. What a nasty bunch of people in Labour Party. They are truly the problem.

Starmer has a ‘weapons of mass destruction’ level of credibility.

All of those pledges, were Corbyn's pledges. They were all part of his brilliant manifesto and starmer has made it clear that he doesn't want anything, including policy, that's similar to corbyn. He's been moving rightward and those pledges don't fit. Starmer hardly ever likes to talk about policy at all, you'd think he'd want to at least try and stick to some of his pledges. Starmer was lying as far as I'm concerned. He's so much like Clegg.

@biffa1234100

Жыл бұрын

thank you my thoughts exactly but this clown wont even make a shitty deputy PM,hes destined to be a text book example of where Machiavellianism gets you when you get called out on it

@jgmediting7770

Жыл бұрын

Of course he was lying. The Labour right are the leftist liberal faction of the elite capitalist class. It’s their job to block anything that’s a threat to those common class interests. The most they’ll do is ask that class to throw a few more crumbs society’s way, and make a few concessions to their profits and wealth for the planet.

The timing of the breaking of that pledge was pretty dumb too. Labours purge of the Left has left them with no principles at all. In Scotland we refer to them as Red Tories.

@nothingisoriginal400

Жыл бұрын

this this THIS!!!!!! you're beyond on the money!

@allegory6393

Жыл бұрын

In England too we refer to these Blatcherites as 'Red Tories' .

@blacktarroses3108

Жыл бұрын

I refer to him as a Tory-lite gobsh!te !

@lordcharfield4529

Жыл бұрын

Because they ARE Tories! We need a mass movement for the working class of our nations!

@LuckyFabian

Жыл бұрын

In England we refer to them as f'ing backstabbers, liars and Tory Enablers... oh... and Red Tories also

I could not be happier with the car crash that is the Starmer leadership. The rot crusted around him, in the form of those who stood up, happily to destroy Corbyn, are the weight that will sink him. The old adage abounds here: "What goes around, comes around". My popcorn overfloweth 🤣🤣

@tonyy452

Жыл бұрын

Here here

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

You all love that jam-making anti-Semitic old millionaire buffoon, don't you. You look forward to putting some equally useless rabid lefty in charge of the Labour party, and that is not going to work out well, is it? But your principles will be fully intact, and you will be able to consider yourselves holier than Starmer, as you groan under the weight of 5 more Tory years., as they gut the NHS even more, crush the education system, and make their multi-millionaire pals even richer.

@ianoliver3130

Жыл бұрын

If he feels he cannot support his own pledges, on which he was elected, then he must resign as party leader. And let us choose another leader.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Corbyn was a maniac. Unelectable as Prime Minister and utterly untrustworthy.

@Lee_303

11 ай бұрын

@@ianoliver3130 indeed. This is about our democracy, our future. They don't speak for me. They like to think they can decide for us which would be OK if they actually had our interests at heart. They DON"T. They work for outside interests, for their own pathetic greed.

I’ve said it once and I’m saying it again, Keir Starmer is not a labour MP He’s not to be Trusted by real Labour supporters

@popgoesaweasle920

7 ай бұрын

You're completely correct. He will say anything and do anything that involves him getting ahead. Dignity and morals sold to the highest bidders. A grim man.

Starmer is about as inspiring as a cardboard box.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Great. Last thing we need is another charismatic type like Boris Johnson

Starmer has no interest in what the party membership want, which is why he is happy to see so many (like me) leave in droves and break manifesto pledges. I am sure there are now many tory voters who see no danger in voting for Starmer, because there is no longer any significant difference.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Great. Game over.

@jassensummogum

Жыл бұрын

😅😊🎉 10:23

@jassensummogum

Жыл бұрын

10:23

Labour literally got best chance to win and Starmer too busy being a clown.

@littlestone1541

Жыл бұрын

To busy being a right-wing oportunist.

@ozzie2612

Жыл бұрын

vote labour

@harrypmay

Жыл бұрын

@@littlestone1541 right wing opportunists do well in British politics so Labour are probably still going to win

@nkirk8740

Жыл бұрын

Never vote Tory, Never Trust a Tory, Starmer is a Tory, the Labour (in name only.) Party is a Right wing Tory Party, vote the Tories out but not by voting Red Tories in!!!!! People supporting and voting Labour are nothing more than Tories with a Red Rosette!!!! Vote Green and stick it to all Tories Blue and Red!!!! ✊🌍.

@vickymc9695

Жыл бұрын

Kinda hoping Angela Rayner takes over.

Those pledges he broke were all literally things that stand a solid chance of FIXING the problems she claims make them no longer relevant.

Rachel Reeves is like a scary toffee nosed teacher from chicken run

Reeves taking a leaf out of the Tories' book here. The pandemic and war in Ukraine are to blame of course!

@deanjames2476

Жыл бұрын

So it wasn't labour's support for the £100billion HS2 or the support for billions to be spent on NetZero targets things that the public were dead against but the politicians ignored 🙁

I almost feel sorry for Angela and Rachel, almost... Then I remember what they did to JC.

@lamueldagon7618

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

Both Starmer and Reeves talk like Robots.

@lamueldagon7618

Жыл бұрын

Because they are.

Reeves is the female version of Starmer, close your eyes and it could be Starmer talking.

@ishi2k8

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing 😂😂

@petefraser3013

Жыл бұрын

@@ishi2k8 next PMQs , watch how she looks at Keir, she can't keep her eyes off him. Indoctrinated

in 2018 the UN Envoy declared the UK in their 2019 released report that we were in a poverty crisis. Only thing that has changed is that has grown worse. If anything the pledges should have been extended not wiped out.

I would be a natural Labour voter but I will not be voting for a party that breaks promises before they are even in power.

They weren’t his policies, I really think he had an issue with that. He now addresses the LP as ‘My Labour’ no longer a party belonging to the members, but a party now funded by private donors. He should never have stood on the 2019 manifesto, yet he did, so now instead of, things have changed so I’m scrapping my commitments, he should be saying, although circumstances have changed I’m still going to try and implement them, they may have to change slightly, but I will do my absolute best to make them work, we need them more than ever. He’s a Grandiose Narcissist! He cares not for any of us but for his own advancement, being PM is all he cares about!

@littlestone1541

Жыл бұрын

He's an opportunist with absolutely zero political integrity. I don't think he personally believes in anything.

@tonguelessghostofsin

Жыл бұрын

@@littlestone1541 To be fair, he believes in slinging loads of people out of the Labour party and slinging other people in prison

@littlestone1541

Жыл бұрын

@@tonguelessghostofsin lol true

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

@@keithparker1346 Since Starmer's "pledges" in 2019: Covid, Liz Truss f*cking the economy, Russia invades Ukraine, 10% inflation, 20% food inflation, 300% rise in fuel prices, NHS Nurse's and Doctor's and Teacher's and Railworker's strikes, other strikes in the pipeline, Brexit beginning to bite, labour shortages everywhere; no, hardly any change at all. There's lots of money about, so students fees can easily be abolished. That's definitely the priority. Sod the people using foodbanks., and those unable to heat their homes, or travel to work; help the students first.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Because that's all that matters. Without power, you can pledge anything. Look at all Corbyn's pledges. He stuck to every one of them. And where's he now?

The only use he has for a pledge is to maintain the shine on his knighthood.

@Mikethebike721

Жыл бұрын

Smart!

@deanjames2476

Жыл бұрын

Didn't he pledge to abolish the house of Lords then change his mind 🤔

Hoping this is the start of karma hitting the red Tories hard.

@Lee_303

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it deliberate? I'm just amazed he's still destroying them from the inside right up to elections?

Is anyone seriously surprised at another pledge being 'moved on from'?

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Pledges are for babies. Be pragmatic

@Phantarch

Жыл бұрын

@@brianbell3836 I'm not sure that coming to be known as one of the most deceitful parliamentarians in British political history is exactly conducive to the sort of pragmatism that you are advocating for but I suppose we all have our opinions in that regard.

The Tories should be toast but Starmer keeps taking the bread out of the toaster

Reeves said "Global pandemic and war in Ukraine". Lines straight out of the tory playbook of excuses. Blame anything but themselves.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Naive Tony

@tonyy452

Жыл бұрын

@@brianbell3836 Naive Brian

I'm pleasantly surprised that we're finally seeing the mainstream media picking up on Starmer's lying.

@Lee_303

Жыл бұрын

Aren't the MSM Tory by default?

@MrMichaeljhinde

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking, if the MSM are pushing that message isn't it done so purely so we act like sheep and revert to voting Tory?

@tytesseract

Жыл бұрын

It suits their purposes - the vast majority of MSM are 100% Tory

@thomasmoore1499

Жыл бұрын

You cannot be serious, where have you been these past years ? Tories always out to get Starmer which ever way they can and always keen to overlook their own record of lying.

@Nick-kb6jd

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasmoore1499 Whereas everyone else that doesn't vote tory or labour just see them both lying.

"Tony completely, straight, completely honest" that Margret Hodge obviously lives in the cloud of cuckoos whirling around inside her head

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

She was right. Tony was completely straight,

I'd rather not vote than give it to these fools

@racechick2033

Жыл бұрын

Socialism isn't a dirty word in the Green Party. Check them out before giving up your vote. 😊

@racechick2033

Жыл бұрын

@Ryan Davies I've felt like that. After having the Labour door knocking people lying to my face (or they are being lied to) I looked into what the Green Party pledges were, I was pleasantly surprised to be honest. They have policies that meet my demands. No one else comes close so I will give them my vote. Imagine if every disenfranchised ex-Labour supporter, every striking worker, every nurse, doctor, paramedic, ambulance driver, railway worker, bus driver, public sector worker..., every parent or grandparent of beloved children, did the same thing we'd have a revolution! I won't waste my vote, it cost too much to win it and I won't disrespect it's importance by wasting or spoiling it. That's my choice, your choice is wholly yours but think about it, please. I want to see proportional representation, an end to the House of unelected Lords and Ladies (replaced with an elected upper House), increased NHS spending by 50%, a REAL living wage, free education in safe buildings. I want our children to be able to look forward to being doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers, councillors, MPs, astronauts, and not just coders spending 8+ hours a day in windowless boxes. 😊

@085cur1ty

Жыл бұрын

I think I’m gonna vote green

@ChristisLord7777

Жыл бұрын

I could never vote Green, they can't relate to working people. The policies are right but they speak a different language. The environment is of little concern to someone with a couple kids and can't keep the lights on. The here and now and poverty is an after thought to the green party

@alancrowe7406

Ай бұрын

@@085cur1ty Not Scottish green I hope, they're fecking nuts!

Our political system is broken.What real voting choices do we have? What's the difference between Sunak's Tories and Starmer's Labour? Not much.

@jgmediting7770

Жыл бұрын

It’s very much how it was designed. Democracy for capital. Political power for the minority that is the capitalist class over the majority group that is the rest of society. Corbyn was their slip up, as he was never meant to win the leadership election. The corbyn treatment is what happens when labour isn’t under control of that class and is a threat. The leftist Liberal faction of that class control the leftist party under a Liberal democracy, and see what happens when they temporally lose control.

Hearing Hodge claim the Tony was 'honest' an appropriate illustration of her being utterly deluded.

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

Yes, maybe - but he was the only Labour politician to win an election in 44 years - and he won THREE of them! How did Jezza do? And Ed Milliband? You just keep ontaking the piss out of Labour politicans that aren't perfect, and see what that gets you. And that prat keep talking about a "PROJECT".

@michaelotieno6524

Жыл бұрын

Tony was bright enough to explain his stance or a reversal of his stance. Kier thinks he doesn't have to explain anything because he is leading in the opinion polls

@mrmr446

Жыл бұрын

@@edeledeledel5490 What has that got to do with honesty? Anyone would have beaten Major in '97, it was his choice to be a legacy of Thatchers policies and he could have avoided so much of the past decade by bringing in PR.

@allanrobson7242

Жыл бұрын

Ms. Hodge saying Tony was different. No, he was a liar as well ,or have we forgotten about weapons of mass destruction. Unfortunately, Sir Kier, the Labour Leader Liar, has now at last been seen for what he is ....A Liar.

@stephenthomas3085

Жыл бұрын

That is an understatement, she probably fancied him and hasn't got over her crush after all this time. Deluded and lost in the past as she clearly is she doesn't understand how screwed the UK is now, socially & economically. This 'aint '97 Margie.. HELLO, anyone there..?!

Instead of asking Starmer what a women is he should be asked what solidarity actually is.

@daraorourke5798

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with asking both?

@jgmediting7770

Жыл бұрын

@@daraorourke5798 because one plays into the propaganda of capital, which the Labour right are very happy to play their part in.

She even sounds like Starmer

We’ve seen that Starmer has merely said what he thought he had to say to become leader of the Labour Party. No surprise having seen his cull on the left that he had no intention of fore filling any of these”pledges” Have circumstances changed so drastically since Starmer became leader?????? Major change is the right has become far stronger so these policies are even more important!! Hodge states “Blaire was completely straight??” Really???😳

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Where wasn't he?

I love that - 'pledges aren't a shopping list'! Spot on!

Starmer has backtracked on almost every principle and promise he's ever made. If I hadn't posted the shreds of my Labour Party card to Blair, back in the day, I'd posting them to him now.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Who gives a toss what Jack Waycombe thinks?

The authority of The Ikea Stalin is absolute, those who have dared to doubt it have found themselves victim to his many purges.

Perhaps it’s a mirror image of the Tories who dropped almost all of their 2019 manifesto pledges following Election victory. Seems to be a Political disease.

Looks like starmer may not be PM by default. Just being able to remove the Tory’s may not be enough especially if you have the same policies.

Is this really so hard to understand? When circumstances get worse and people need more help, THAT'S when you have to abandon all your pledges to help them. You simply must. Duh.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

@@keithparker1346 Pledges are for children. Grow up

Labour are in for a massive shock at the next GE. Think egg on your face. Starmer and co. Will be left looking at each other thinking; what happened.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

And laughing at the Tories eating sh*t

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

Once again. Red tories. Or perhaps a light shade of light pinky blue.

A pledge is a pledge

She's actually a trained economist. Worked at the Bank of England and look at the incompetence of the MPC

The fact that my dad actually likes this woman...is shocking. I'm actually gobsmacked that anyone can take go full NPC for this absolute Neo-Giddensians!

She sounds remarkably like a Conservative, very carefully didn't mention Brexit because they have no intention of working on alignment to enter the future possibility of rejoining. When Labour is little more than Tory light, what is their value? Perhaps this just magnifies the fact that establishment parties are no longer fit for purpose.

@jgmediting7770

Жыл бұрын

Their value is serving and protecting capital.

As far as I understand, Starmer's current utterances are all designed to reassure the voters he needs in red-wall etc. seats. I wonder if his team have taken account of the massive fall-off of Lib Dem voters arising directly from Clegg's broken pledge on tuition fees?

Labour Party, in its current form, doesn't deserve my vote.

@steveb951

Жыл бұрын

@@keithparker1346I’m not a particular fan of Starmer but can you seriously tell me that voting Green and not Labour isn’t going to improve the chances of another Tory government?

@steveb951

Жыл бұрын

@ryandavies4197Perhaps look at local issues and your local MP or councillors and vote for them based on their record or manifesto. Not voting isn’t good for anyone. Btw we aren’t going to ever have a socialist government in the UK, we can hope for a centre left one day but that’s as good as you will get.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

@Ryan Davies Good. See how lucky you get that way

The pledges he hasn't broken yet and those that haven't been made yet will be broken in the future.

So why bother having a Manifesto? Starmer is at best, a sideways step, not what we need!

It's not that Starmer has "kept" the pledges he hasn’t broken, rather that he hasn't abandoned them. Yet.

I’m soon to be 83 and pledged to nobody in particular that I would hang on for a convincing Labour victory at the next election. I thought I was cruising along, but Starmer seems to approach Tory open goals in the manner of English penalty takers. It will all end in tears. 😊

None of them are worth voting for

@Joseph-lc9hk

Жыл бұрын

Vote Green - they are far from perfect but it's our best shot of giving Keith a bloody nose and in the long term replacing Labour with a genuine left party,

@zog97xy

Жыл бұрын

@@Joseph-lc9hk Keir not keith

I bet Jeremy Corbyn will be just as popular as Starmer if Labour only voters could choose the leader.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's why he beat Boris Johnson in a General Election.

Well lock down didn’t help of course but starmer wanted more lockdown

Margaret Hodge " Tony was always honest " it would be the funniest thing I've heard all week; if the horror of the Iraq war didn't keep coming back !

@cdean2789

Жыл бұрын

She led the antisemitism witch-hunt too.

Strange how whenever there are 'concessions' to be made, and pledges to be dropped or reversed in the name of being 'pragmatic' because 'circumstances have changed' etc... it's always in the same direction. It's always in favour of profit and privatisation, and increasingly in favour of more tax-cuts for the rich and the slashing of social economic safety-nets. Funny how it never happens in the other direction, isnt it? How you never see Tories saying: "Oh. Well, turns out that things have changed since we promissed our donors mass deregulation of this or that industry and dangled the selling off of this or that public sector industry in front of them... but now it looks like we'll have to go back on that, as well as having to gave workers in this country a pay rise by upping the minimum wage... sorry. But we have to be pragmatic about these things." How stupid do they think we are? We need a true socialist party. Let Starmer and the bosses keep the gutted out remnants of Labour.

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

When did far left politics last win an UK General Election then? I'd be interested to know.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

@@edeledeledel5490 Dont you dare try and talk sense to these Left Wingers!

@edeledeledel5490

Жыл бұрын

@@brianbell3836 I'm on the point of giving up. Luckily, their rants don't seem to have damaged the Labour vote much.

@andydyer6591

Жыл бұрын

Closest thing I can think of is when Hunt came in as Chancellor and reversed all of Truss and Kwarteng’s tax cuts. But that was literally because those tax cuts literally were the cause of the crash.

He would say anything to get in power

Rishi Starmer / Keir Sunak same old same old, nothing will change for working families.

@Henbot

Жыл бұрын

No, they will get worse under tories and Rishi Sunak.

@Matt-ou7tu

Жыл бұрын

​@@Henbotwhere's the evidence of that?

@DiscourseToday

Жыл бұрын

@Henbot I think that there maybe a slight improvement but not much

I don't understand this constant argument of changed circumstances... regardless of circumstances what the majority of people actually want hasn't changed and should still be the goal we strive for, regardless it seems to just be an excuse to not actually deliver on what people want

@jgmediting7770

Жыл бұрын

The labour right are lying. Most of those pledges are against the interests they represent. It is once again the party of the Leftist Liberal faction of the capitalist elite. A few more crumbs thrown your way is the best you can hope for.

Should Mrs.Starmer be worried about veracity of her lying husband's wedding vows ?

The only obvious differences between Keef and the person universally viewed as an inveterate liar, namely Boris Johnson, seems to be Bryclreem and a comb.

News : This is biggest break of pledges Racheal : No.. Look at all the pledges WE haven't broke

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Childish argument.

It's about time they made it law..outlawing pledges...and other wish lists to get people to vote for you..

If he's basically adopting Tory policies under a Labour government as his election campaign goes on, I'd advise Starmer to use the tagline...."Austerity with a human face" to get Tory voting Britain onside.

@ianoliver3130

Жыл бұрын

Get Corbyn back as leader before it's too late

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

@@ianoliver3130 Moron

pledge . a solemn promise or undertaking.

I think we may need to accept a Labour victory under Starmer but the next day Jeremy Corbyn should announce a new party

@patcampton7163

Жыл бұрын

We need a new face. Clive Lewis and bring along all the other young leftvwing mps , get the unions on board. I'd vote for that.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Yes. He can call it the Losers Party. Would you vote for it?

@scottishbanjo

Жыл бұрын

@@brianbell3836 many did vote for him . In fact record numbers joined the Labour Party because of him

Proper Labour would be. Equal taxes and NI on unearned income. Extreme rent control on private landlords, massive council house building via government owned building corporations, shutting down all UK sponsored tax havens, nationalising all utilities at a pricewe can afford, all NHS in house and free nurse training, and free education. All of this would benefit the absolute majority of us and the rich would lose nothing.

@racechick2033

Жыл бұрын

That's what the Greens stand for among many other good policies. Check them out, you might be surprised. 😊

Who was that stupid woman saying "Tony (Blair) never did that"? Blair promised to re-nationalise the rail system in his election campaign, but never did. It seems like they'll say anything to get in, and then do anything they want, once they are.

@brianbell3836

Жыл бұрын

Wow! You should be a political analyst.

@dandare1001

Жыл бұрын

​@@brianbell3836erm, thank you, I suppose.

Starmer is like the Emperor with no clothes. He has no charm and no policy

We need another party!

Vote Green

The two main parties in Britain are a disgrace. Neither represent the interests of the British public. So, it is a terrible choice between corrupt Tories who have completly decimated public services and are clearly in the pockets of corperations and a Labour Party that lacks integrity and is willing to lie about their policies in order to garner votes. Both Parties are content with the inequitable status quo. It makes me wonder whether anarchy would be better for all.

@jgmediting7770

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They represent the factions of the capitalist elite. Corbyn didn’t, and you see what happens. That’s the inevitability of capitalism and its dynamics.

If a member of your family or a close friend was as duplicitous as Starmer you would never speak to them again.

Wonder at what point the knives will come out for Starmer? Probably first in the queue would be Weasel Streeting! 😉

I am so angry that this has happened. They’re just Tories after all. It’s like a nightmare when your rescuer turns out to be the killer.

Keir Starmer's pledges are no better than Amber Heard's pledges when giving money to children's charities. I also wonder if when Sir Keir pledges allegiance to Charlies, will he actually mean it, or U-Turn on that as well? 😑

This is all coming at the worst time for Labour. If things have changed then it's up to Starmer to publicly justify his decisions. Using covid, and economy crashes done by tories as excuses is beginning to sound like tory deflection. Not good.

How do so many MPs manage to sound like malfunctioning robots?

@Daithai96

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@@keithparker1346 that could well be the answer. Although, as an AI Chatbot person I do not have opinions. But, I think you're right

Does labour really wanna lose?

Starmer thinks Pledge is a furniture polish

I was pleased to see Rachel Reeves looking uncomfortable when confronted with truth. Pledges are promises. What they could say that economic circumstances are prohibitive at the moment. But we promise on the principle we WILL work towards transport nationalisation, abolishing student debt and so on. They could say we will do this when we can pay for it. I personally believe the charleton Starmer, will revoke his bold promises on the environment too.

Aesop's 161st Fable has this crux line : Some people are so intent on dishonest gain that they fail to see when they are providing proof of their own guilt.

Great analysis thank you

I know we all prefer policy and substance over style, but it's worth just raising that Corbyn and McDonnell both had very calm and composed voices, Starmer and Reeves voices are nasal and horrible to listen to. They have no substance OR style!

@jgmediting7770

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They have at least part of the establishment backing them, and the rest not that opposed. That’s all that matters.

Didnt mention Brexit either how torie of her

The only pledge Sir Starmer recognises is a furniture polish. "Circumstances change." The classic excuse of the habitual liar in politics.

Anyone would think he was paid to destroy labour & let the tories win again.......

Any organisation that gives people like Rachel Reeves, David Lammy, Emily Thornbury and Angela Rayner, led by Sir Kier Starmer, any standing is completely lost.

It’s long overdue that manifestos & pledges made by political parties & elected politicians are legally binding

They really do have no shame. I’m going to look up the definition of psychopath..again!

Labour leadership is in turmoil totally clueless

Nick Clegg redefined the meaning of "pledge" and look what happened to him.

Circumstances do change and they have changed so bait and switch Starmer should not be surprised when people say... I will not vote for this Labour party.

The circumstances that have changed is that he isn't campaigning to win over Labour Party members now he's trying to appeal to soft Tory voters and doners.

@jgmediting7770

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Just take a look at ‘the new working class’ book. That’s the strategy, or was. Basically rhetoric to win power to enact Leftist Liberal policies that will primarily serve capital and the donors, (that the Labour right court so it can lessen union influence). The Labour Party has gone as a middle or left wing party representing the working class. It’s just another faction of the elite, bought by capital.

Why would you abandon the tuition fees pledge right before the election...