Révision d'un moteur électrique ASEA. Revision of an electric DC motor. 600kW à 620VCC

Ғылым және технология

Travaux exécutés au sein de l'entreprise Pascal Delafontaine Electromécanique SA à Puidoux. Suisse
-Démontage et remontage d'un moteur à courant continu ASEA de 600kW sous 620V (1'020A).
Aus und Einbau eines Gleichstrommotors ASEA von 600kW in 620V (1'020A)
-Removal and reassembly of a 600kW ASEA DC motor under 620V (1'020A)

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  • @robertliskey420
    @robertliskey4202 жыл бұрын

    I thought I might tell you this is one of my favorites, all the steps and seeing that great lathe in operation. Good music too Thank you! Nice motor too!

  • @beargibson3100
    @beargibson31005 жыл бұрын

    The industrial electric motor world is a very interesting one. Cool to see you use the same techniques that we do here in the USA. Loved the video.

  • @user-en8rf4cp2x

    @user-en8rf4cp2x

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's hard work

  • @davidschwartz5127

    @davidschwartz5127

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, brought back old memories of when I was young!

  • @michaelabiera
    @michaelabiera Жыл бұрын

    Awesome job

  • @BennysKanal
    @BennysKanal4 жыл бұрын

    Great Work its nice to see how other doing the same job

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO20076 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, great motor overhaul. Please make more video's.

  • @sarahmayer8539
    @sarahmayer85393 жыл бұрын

    Echt tolle Videos! Super Arbeit, formidablé !

  • @user-vj4fq7gq3f
    @user-vj4fq7gq3f4 жыл бұрын

    Very very good sir. Well done. Thanks and I enjoyed alot.

  • @TrimeshSZ
    @TrimeshSZ5 жыл бұрын

    Nice rebuild - incidentally, in this context "charbon" is "brush" and "collecteur" is "commutator"

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your comment, the texts have been translated by software

  • @mohammadshakir1189
    @mohammadshakir1189 Жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @IgorPshynyk
    @IgorPshynyk4 жыл бұрын

    Двигатель шепчет! Motor wispert! Super

  • @williangomesarruda2972
    @williangomesarruda29726 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video!

  • @ayu12001
    @ayu120015 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for sharing every detail of step ...>.

  • @shahidulislam-dk3gl
    @shahidulislam-dk3gl4 жыл бұрын

    Very Nice Overolling System of DC Motor. Thanks are all.

  • @logicinterface8539
    @logicinterface85396 жыл бұрын

    Vin Diesel machining the commutator

  • @Axel_Forgiono
    @Axel_Forgiono4 жыл бұрын

    Great job!

  • @montesa9870
    @montesa98706 жыл бұрын

    gran trabajo, excelente.

  • @gonzalooteroseyfarth7200
    @gonzalooteroseyfarth72004 жыл бұрын

    Really nice job, I can see a lot of effort in there. Grüße aus Argentinien

  • @irineuluiz9847
    @irineuluiz98475 жыл бұрын

    belissimo trabalho 👏👏👏👏

  • @ranjitdasdirectorofswadhas9
    @ranjitdasdirectorofswadhas94 жыл бұрын

    very nice work...

  • @rishabhsingh1538
    @rishabhsingh15386 жыл бұрын

    Nice video sir

  • @nowheremanjk8624
    @nowheremanjk86246 жыл бұрын

    'part to parts' Super. Make more that video :-)

  • @ElevateMN
    @ElevateMN3 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how quiet DC motors really are compared to large AC motors.

  • @douro20

    @douro20

    2 жыл бұрын

    This motor in operation would be cooled by a large centrifugal fan driven by another motor, as is shown near the end of the video.

  • @davidpar2
    @davidpar25 жыл бұрын

    Nice video

  • @heartofthetraitorAMINE
    @heartofthetraitorAMINE4 жыл бұрын

    Good job.

  • @gary00832
    @gary008324 жыл бұрын

    I like the brute puller at the start

  • @doublesdetailer7709
    @doublesdetailer77093 жыл бұрын

    Nice job

  • @MenzelMotors
    @MenzelMotors3 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from a big electric motor fan in Berlin.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also a fan of big engines, but in a small company. With us, the limit is 8 tonnes ... because of the overhead cranes! www.pascal-delafontaine.ch/ www.yves-mamin.ch/Travail/Pascal%20Delafontaine%20SA%20Electrom%C3%A9canique/index.htm

  • @arcano7257
    @arcano72575 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for shared.

  • @joemAwesomeMan
    @joemAwesomeMan5 жыл бұрын

    awesome!

  • @ranjitdasdirectorofswadhas9
    @ranjitdasdirectorofswadhas94 жыл бұрын

    very nice....

  • @reitrain
    @reitrain4 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @Albrecht8000
    @Albrecht80004 жыл бұрын

    Where was this electric motor used? Greetings from germany

  • @YvesMamin
    @YvesMamin4 жыл бұрын

    11:35 Big Fan (Glass Industry)

  • @EEPE-jr3th
    @EEPE-jr3th4 жыл бұрын

    Il est énorme ce moteur 😅😅

  • @user-um2nt5gz7j
    @user-um2nt5gz7j3 жыл бұрын

    Хорошая работа!)) Молодцы!!)

  • @elandiophb35
    @elandiophb353 жыл бұрын

    Trabalho de excelência.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Obrigado !

  • @bledlbledlbledl
    @bledlbledlbledl4 жыл бұрын

    5kw draw with no shaft-load? That's one big motor

  • @douro20
    @douro204 жыл бұрын

    Is it a Suhner pencil grinder being used to grind down the insulation between the commutator bars?

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes it is a Suhner

  • @JoseAntonio-tt2mb
    @JoseAntonio-tt2mb3 жыл бұрын

    Você é quem faz tudo não tem um torneiro só para isso ?

  • @hasimalon6911
    @hasimalon69115 жыл бұрын

    👏👏جميل

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Merci !

  • @dtiydr
    @dtiydr4 жыл бұрын

    10 Amp in idle current per phase for a 600kW motor is dam good, but the swedes know what they are doing as usual.

  • @BennysKanal

    @BennysKanal

    4 жыл бұрын

    dtiydr its normal for a DC machine in idle

  • @dtiydr

    @dtiydr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BennysKanal as said If it's done right.

  • @MrZauberwuerfel

    @MrZauberwuerfel

    3 жыл бұрын

    what impresses me even more is that they can make this motor run stable with such a weak field. Only 1,7 kW for the excitation for a 600 kW motor is insanely low

  • @Bobo290257
    @Bobo2902574 жыл бұрын

    par exemple il sert à quoi ce moteur ?

  • @braciarenegaci6431
    @braciarenegaci64316 жыл бұрын

    6:00 - riddick like alive!

  • @Thefreakyfreek

    @Thefreakyfreek

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice catch

  • @williangomesarruda2972
    @williangomesarruda29725 жыл бұрын

    How much would cost that service aproximately ?

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Around CHF 3'000 to CHF 5,000 of manpower (Swiss Francs) ,ball bearing supplies and coals : CHF 3'000. Depending on the condition of the engine. ( CHF 140 per hour for labor.)

  • @williangomesarruda2972

    @williangomesarruda2972

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the attention, excellent job! Another subscriber from Brazil :)

  • @babispapageorgiou8499
    @babispapageorgiou84995 жыл бұрын

    Hello mr yves very good restoration video. Can you please tell me the difference between a dc motor like this and a dc welding generator? I mean can be used a dc motor like that if I give him rotation for welding generator? Thank you

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    In theory with certain motors yes, the excitation coils must be fed in a different way in order to produce the maximum of magnetism during the welding not too much between the periods of welding in order to avoid overvoltages.

  • @babispapageorgiou8499

    @babispapageorgiou8499

    5 жыл бұрын

    I understand. Thank you for your help. How can I control the output amperage of the motor because in welding must the amperage to be adjustable. What can I use for amperage control? Some reostat or variac? Can you please give me an idea? Thank you

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do not know your generator, but in principle you have to put a rehostat in the excitation circuit. A variac is for AC.

  • @babispapageorgiou8499

    @babispapageorgiou8499

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for your help Best regards

  • @jorghubinger340

    @jorghubinger340

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice work, perfect tools 👍🏻

  • @jeanpierresam3153
    @jeanpierresam31535 жыл бұрын

    Très belle vidéo et très détaillée. Mais je suis un peu étonné, c’est que dans toutes les procédures, même avec le moteur tournant, qui est donc alimenté ; la personne n’a pas du tout utilisé de gant. Je m’abonne à cette chaine, car cela est vraiment intéressant à connaitre. On s’aperçoit qu’il existe énormément d’appareils et outils de travail que l’on voit tous les jours, sans se poser la question de savoir comment cela est fabriquer, monté ou réparé.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pour ce qui de la question de port de gants, tout travail manuel que se soit comporte des risques de blessures, pour bien des tâches représentées ici le risque est bien moindre que de couper une carotte dans sa cuisine avec un couteau plus ou moins bien affuté ! Pour les risques électriques le travail directement sur des parties sous-tension impose le port de gant spécifique dans tout les cas. Sur un machine ou des appareils où la source de l'alimentation est déconnectable physiquement (Fiche-prise dans notre cas), l'opérateur est seul responsable des risques potentiels qu'il prend lors des préparatifs. Le fait d'évoluer à proximité d'un appareil électrique en service n'impose pas le port des gants. Trop de sécurité nuit à la sécurité, les gens trop déresponsabilisés ne font plus attention à ce qu'il font !

  • @3JIbIDEHbv2
    @3JIbIDEHbv25 жыл бұрын

    5:58 Alle warten auf das Licht Fürchtet euch, fürchtet euch nicht Die Sonne scheint mir aus den Augen Sie wird heute Nacht nicht untergehen Und die Welt zählt laut bis zehn

  • @KILL-YOU

    @KILL-YOU

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @saifullahkanstyu4468
    @saifullahkanstyu44684 жыл бұрын

    Good

  • @spambot7110
    @spambot71103 жыл бұрын

    those unsecured hooks at 2:23 are terrifying. if they slipped off you'd lose your foot

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    You want to be very observant, there are four hooks (2x2) on either side of the plate. The two rods are blocked in the holes. This is the only way to obtain a perfectly vertical position of the plate.

  • @jazwiec9379
    @jazwiec93794 жыл бұрын

    That Oerlikon lathe is even more fascinating. Schrage motor?

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's a video idea to remember, thank you. The lathe motor is of the three-phase asynchronous type. I made a video about the Schrage engine kzread.info/dash/bejne/dnirs8FumcvHlpM.html

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just uploaded a video about the Oerlikon lathe, thank you again for your idea kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKt2mc-oms7HlKQ.html

  • @user-en8rf4cp2x
    @user-en8rf4cp2x4 жыл бұрын

    Hard work is worth a million dollars wages to work

  • @Star0stinIg0r
    @Star0stinIg0r3 жыл бұрын

    Впечатляет!

  • @jojovillanueva
    @jojovillanueva2 жыл бұрын

    All shits including grease goes to the storm water drain. Nice!

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very good remark, All the water in the washing place is collected in a grease separator emptied and cleaned once a year. The water leaving the separator is treated as waste water by the sewage treatment plants. (State obligation in Switzerland) Breaches of the law on the protection of water are very very expensive, in addition to the costs of cleaning up rivers and lakes also payable by the offender!

  • @skmetal7
    @skmetal74 жыл бұрын

    wow 600kw in such a small motor. I bet it needs some serious cooling!

  • @reynacion3235

    @reynacion3235

    4 жыл бұрын

    compensating winding boost the interpole increases the power.

  • @ulisestognola8037

    @ulisestognola8037

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reynacion3235 Hi! Could you explain a little more about what you mentioned? Thanks from Argentina !!

  • @clist9406
    @clist94064 жыл бұрын

    What is a motor like this used for. Its huge

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blower, glass wool production

  • @user-zs5uh9oo1f
    @user-zs5uh9oo1f4 жыл бұрын

    Спаси Бог тебя автор! Очень познавательно!

  • @MissYijare
    @MissYijare5 жыл бұрын

    140 Fraken per Stunde? Klingt nach viel, ist es aber, meiner Meinung nach, nicht. Alleine bei der Präzsion die hier beim drehen des Kommutator angesetzt wird, kann man eine Stange mehr verlangen. Wohl gemerkt, der Motor wird schon etliche jahre in Betrieb gewesen sein und es ist für den Betrieb billiger, diesen neu aufbauen zu lassen als einen gleichwertigen, neueren Motor zu beschaffen. Das sagt einiges über die Langlebigkeit alter Technik aus. Das Einzige was mich etwas gestörrt hat waren die offen zugänglichen Kontakte während der tests, aber das auch nur, weil ich michs elber kenne und irgendwie dagegen gekommen wäre.

  • @Z-Ack
    @Z-Ack4 жыл бұрын

    Well that was an easy enough 10 grand... motors aint cheap..

  • @manosmixail6992
    @manosmixail69926 жыл бұрын

    ΕΞΕΡΕΤΙΚΟ

  • @legitscoper3259
    @legitscoper32594 жыл бұрын

    How this work is called? What do i have to learn to do the same ?

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Electro-mechanic, automatic engineer, winder, machine builder

  • @ProbeGT2
    @ProbeGT24 жыл бұрын

    How much horsepower does it produce?

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    600kW = 800HP (1HP = 0.75kW)

  • @andrewofford1533
    @andrewofford15335 жыл бұрын

    Using an electric tool, to under cut the Mica? As an apprentice,I was made to do that by hand,using a Hacksaw Blade.......

  • @MissYijare

    @MissYijare

    5 жыл бұрын

    and there you have the reason: you where an apprentice. you don't get to have the nice tools.

  • @DMahalko
    @DMahalko3 жыл бұрын

    It is odd that the 6th brush holder is not used. It would reduce amperage per brush, and distribute brush / segment wear more evenly. They're not conserving anything by not having the 6th brush installed. At 6:10 he shaves off the unused brush surface thickness to the same depth as everything else.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is a false belief. A brush behaves better and there is less wear and tear when it is moderately hot. if there is too much brush, the amperes per square minimeter are too low and seizure or stains on the collector may appear. When there are quality problems on the collector surface, the first attempt to correct the problem is to reduce the number of brush or their section. As a general rule one should not have less than 2 amps per square minimeter, this rule is not absolute the environmental conditions can also have an influence.

  • @YCbCr

    @YCbCr

    7 ай бұрын

    That's an interesting topic! I wonder how it is managed in locomotives' DC traction motors where the brushes should work just as well at max (rated) current while starting-accelerating, and at much lower amperage at speed - anywhere from -2000 to 2000 RPM. A common loc around here for example: 1400 V, 1050 A (starting 1700), series excitation (with shunts), sensitive beast prone to flashover - and two pf these to double the fun :)

  • @omark7122
    @omark7122 Жыл бұрын

    Quels sont les domaines d'utilisation d'un moteur à courant continu ??

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    Жыл бұрын

    Ce type de moteur était couramment utilisé partout ou il y avait besoin de pouvoir facilement modifier la vitesse de rotation (ventilation, pompage...) ou de gros couple au démarrage (Traction ferroviaire). Il sont remplacé aujourd'hui par des moteurs triphasés avec des variateurs de fréquence bien meilleur marché à entretenir. Notons que dans le cadre de mon activité professionnelle on voit réapparaitre bien quelques moteurs de ce type depuis quelques mois à cause (ou grâce..) à la pénurie de composant électroniques pour les variateurs de fréquence.

  • @user-en8rf4cp2x
    @user-en8rf4cp2x4 жыл бұрын

    It 's very tired and consumes nerves, eyes and memory ... Working in electricity is very hard

  • @tomasgreppel620
    @tomasgreppel6204 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a nice documentary video. Btw, at 7:40, horrible sound, like a dental drill, ou ou ou ... :))

  • @jolyonwelsh9834
    @jolyonwelsh98344 жыл бұрын

    Looks very expensive and time-consuming. No wonder they're replacing these with VFDs and induction motors.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    4 жыл бұрын

    For new installations yes ! For the perfectly functional old no! These engines are 30 years old and operate without problems. We also work with VFDs, their lifespan does not exceed a few years and there are always compatibility problems when they are changed. It is a waste of raw materials ! The VFD generates other problems just as expensive as the overhaul of these old engines ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqeAz9l-mafKhLQ.html )

  • @user-si4tj3um8f
    @user-si4tj3um8f5 жыл бұрын

    Bangladesh

  • @houcinekabda112
    @houcinekabda1125 жыл бұрын

    Le moteur Électrique à courant continu n'est plus sûr pour la variation de vitesse ,la technologie s'orienter vers les variateurs de vitesse électriques.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oui aujourd'hui la solution ne serait pas la même. Mais on ne change pas une ancienne technique qui marche toujours parfaitement bien .

  • @ghislainebenoit1992
    @ghislainebenoit19923 жыл бұрын

    7:14. Cette opération à la main sans guide me fait franchement peur.. La moindre fausse manoeuvre résulterait en une rayure sur un ou plusieurs segments. Qui plus est, la profondeur de la coupe est aléatoire.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Il existe bien un système de guidage pour la meule, mais avec l'habitude la précision de la main seule est supérieure. Le réglage de profondeur (+- 0,5mm) se fait avec le calage du pouce sous la meule, là également le doigté est meilleur. Le risque zéro de geste maladroit n'existe pas.

  • @user-en8rf4cp2x
    @user-en8rf4cp2x4 жыл бұрын

    You should take a rest and relax and travel to a quiet country for tourism and honors ten bottles of whiskey and enjoy the most beautiful girls in order to regain the activity of your mind that your work is very hard

  • @sdfsfsdfsgfhg
    @sdfsfsdfsgfhg4 жыл бұрын

    а у нас бы на медь его сдали и не заморачивались))))))

  • @MrMad-lp7in

    @MrMad-lp7in

    4 жыл бұрын

    Да. Потому что, ничего, своего нету.

  • @user-ie8pr2vw2o

    @user-ie8pr2vw2o

    4 жыл бұрын

    Интересно сколько в нем медяхи?

  • @Fgoblin2014
    @Fgoblin20142 жыл бұрын

    Im always scared to wash an armature because there is a chance that it will push a bunch of wet carbon against the back of the comm.

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's fair, it's not shown on the film but we try to vacuum as much as possible with a vacuum cleaner before. The insulation check after drying is not always good and for some very dirty motors it is necessary to wash two or three times

  • @user-si4tj3um8f
    @user-si4tj3um8f5 жыл бұрын

    Si

  • @user-si4tj3um8f

    @user-si4tj3um8f

    5 жыл бұрын

    01811316839

  • @markjaikaran1727
    @markjaikaran17274 жыл бұрын

    6:04 riddick

  • @oldthink6773
    @oldthink67733 жыл бұрын

    Name .aditya

  • @mrjeffsy9749
    @mrjeffsy9749 Жыл бұрын

    Nettoyage de toute les merdes du moteur dehors avec mise à l'égout hum hum xD

  • @YvesMamin

    @YvesMamin

    Жыл бұрын

    La remarque à déjà été faite ici il y a une année environ (en anglais, voir ci-dessous Jojo Villanueva). L'eau de cette place de lavage est récoltée dans deux fosses de séparation des graisses et stockage des eaux usées, le contenu de ces fosse est vidé et traité comme déchets spéciaux par une STEP. Vous noterez qu'aucun produit de nettoyage n'est utilisé, seulement de l'eau chaude ceci afin d'éviter la dissolution des corps gras dans l'eau. La législation Suisse sur la protection des eaux est très stricte et des infractions dans ce domaine coutent une petite fortune !

  • @narmale
    @narmale3 жыл бұрын

    RIDICK!?

  • @younesalli2095
    @younesalli20955 жыл бұрын

    Good job

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