Legend has it, Caleb's sideburns can break in a barrel just by shouldering the rifle.

@brownells

3 жыл бұрын

This isnt a legend, its reality.

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

Great comments! 🤠

@ryanehlis426

3 жыл бұрын

Love the comment ;)

@paulsimmons5726

2 жыл бұрын

You know, Elvis was the originator of this technique!

@juliusjames5577

2 жыл бұрын

Funny stuff!

I always follow the "don't bother" procedure for breaking in a new barrel, it has worked flawlessly so far. Breaking in a new stock is different, it is important to perform at least a dozen cheek welds before firing the rifle.

@johnburrows1179

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly 👍

@tjlovesrachel

3 жыл бұрын

That’s where I fucked up... I needed to do the cheek weld procedure

@cavscout888

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, the lazy answer and nothing more.

@damonthomas8955

2 жыл бұрын

@@cavscout888 did you even bother to watch the video?

@cavscout888

2 жыл бұрын

@@damonthomas8955 Yep. Did you hear anything more than what you wanted to hear while watching it? Note my REPLY is directly to your comment above. Not the video.

Kinda tough to break in a barrel when I don’t have ammo to send down said barrel.

No nonsense talking and time wasting. No ads. Straight to the point. Clearly two knowledgeable gentlemen. Unusual and refreshing for a KZread channel. Subscription added. Thanks gents.

Asked manufacturer (Q) on break in for their fix in 6.5cm, they said, just shoot it.. so far its absolutely the most accurate rifle I have ever shot.

@MavisRecon

Жыл бұрын

Who was the manufacturer?

@relevation0

Жыл бұрын

@@MavisRecon Q

@azcontent

Жыл бұрын

You have the fix by Q?! Nice!

Love these short no nonsense videos. More people need to see these

@barfy362

2 жыл бұрын

I've learned more about guns watching these guys for the past 2 hours than I have in the past 10 years.

I've been shooting for 52 years, and I can't count the number of "you gotta do this to break it in right" stories and arguments. A large series of books would be needed to write them all down!!!

I seem to remember hearing that "barrel break in" was invented by a guy who wanted to sell more barrels.

Content like this is why I recommend this channel and Forgotten Weapons to new gun owners who are looking to expand their knowledge of both their firearms and the community.

How to break in a barrel. Step one chamber a round Step 2 shoot Step 3 repeat steps 1 and 2 until magazine is empty

@anthonyshepard9606

4 жыл бұрын

Does this apply to 30-shot magazine? LOL

@GrizzlyDude

4 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyshepard9606 yes it does.

This channel is easily my new favorite channel to watch. Great job guys 👍🏾

@Bl8ingSh0rts

4 жыл бұрын

Poor guy

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@onpsxmember

3 жыл бұрын

@@brownells You should make a video about hangfires. It happens so rarely with modern factory ammo that some think it's a myth. It would be great to inform more new shooters about it, how it happens and what to do in these very rare occasions. Is it just the composition of the primer, the one loading them or probably the storage of the primers? Maybe you can ask the owner of this compilation for footage if you need some or you could deliberately create them to show how every type of it really happens.

@magustrigger9195

3 жыл бұрын

You should really check out hard core porn.....

@ferntheyoutuber9960

3 жыл бұрын

@@magustrigger9195 Coomer

Excellent videos! Keep making them! Thank you!

Awesome amount of information provided. Thank you, and keep up the good work.

You guys rock. I've learned quite a few things by watching your videos over the course of owning various firearms. Keep it up! Keep these videos coming as new gun owners should know all this useful information.

Thank you guys so much for the information as I have ALWAYS wondered

Thank you for making this video. I knew it would be informative. Keep up the awesome work.

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Finally someone provides short and sweet info. It is more of a conditioning of the rifling, vs break in.

This was all correct information, and well explained.

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I’ve watched 10 videos on this topic and I with I had watched this one first. Thanks gents.

Good talk on the subject... I myself have seen people obsess over a barrels break on a hammer forged barrel for no other reason than they thought it should be done like all others. And you are exactly right, a cut-rifled barrel requires hand lapping and meticulous break in to achieve it's best result.

Great information on all areas of shootings. Keep them coming.

Thanks for giving us the “straight poop” on barrel breakins. I always feel like I get the real low down from Brownells. Great job guys.

Great information as always gentlemen.

Thanks guys! Please do a video about " your personal Choice " Gunsmith's tools with the link to the store

Love you guys, great how just the facts are presented, just straight knowledge and very little opinion, up unless it's an exception or gray area ... Keep the great information coming

Nothing like clear, concise, accurate honest information. Cheers

@brownells

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

This is the first discussion of the topic that made sense to me.

Wow hopping back to this for a reference is a marked difference. Glad whoever made the decision to up the lighting and audio budget did so because it's a hell of an improvement.

Great info.... thank you. Something I have been wondering about

another good well produced video guys ; thanks !

These quick tips are great to watch for a relaxing break while absorbing a dose of basic knowledge on a wide variety of gun topics. Thanks Brownells!

I really appreciate this! Although there weren’t specific instructions with my ER Shaw I ordered it shoots better every time. However I ALWAYS clean my guns after I shoot them since age 13. THANKS!

Thanks for this video, had many older heads tell me I needed to break in my barrel for my first build...well I have a cold hammer forged chrome lined barrel so I’m good to go...

Years ago I heard all the hype about barrel break-in and called Tikka after a new purchase. Customer support said, 'Shoot it. The most accurate shot your new rifle will ever make is the first one fired. Every shot thereafter will be a little less accurate than the last until accuracy is unacceptable for your intended use of the rifle.' That rifle has over 500 rounds and is still sub 1/2 moa. Later that year I did some follow-up reading about a top tier barrel maker that established one of the first break-in procedures to sell competition barrels faster. If he could get shooters to blast 100 rounds through a barrel that would start to show accuracy loss at 1k rounds, then his "break-in" procedures shortened the life of the barrel by 10%. Smart business, that. Glad I went with Tikka.

@brownells

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@scottg9208

3 жыл бұрын

Amen, John B.!

Thank you for another great video.

OUTSTANDING INFORMATIONAL COMMENTARY. I have several barrels that I need to shoot/break-in and I was wondering if I need it to break them in. But from this information here I think I know which ones I should and which ones I should not choose to shoot-in. Thank you Brownell team members. You guys have great informational videos. Inglewood, California. 🐢👀👍🇺🇸

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching!

You guys are the best! Thanks.

Thank you for the film

I used match barrel break-in on my AR-10B 16" tripple lapped chrome lined barrel. Using nothing bit Hornady 168 match ammo. ArmaLite said it was a 1.5 to 2" gun. When I was done it was a .75" gun.

More content please. You guys do a good job

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Working on it!

I can’t get over these videos. They get better and better. As a new shooter I started listening to this and immediately thought “Oh my god I didn’t break in my AR barrels!!!! They’re ruined for sure!!!” Moments later...that very question was covered in the video. Please keep it up. These are so informative. I really appreciate the time and effort that goes into these videos. It has made me go to Brownell’s first for any of my purchases.

I was happy to see the rifle I purchased had break in instructions.

Great information.

When you shoot a new rifle, the bullet will leave microscopic pieces of copper in the microscopic pits, grooves etc. of the barrel. Those should be left alone and not "cleaned out" of the barrel. Shoot the rifle and periodically clean it with good ol' Hoppes #9. That is all you have to do. I used to be overboard about cleaning after every trip out when I fired my rifle and finally figured out that is not necessary and a waste of time. Now, when I get the urge to clean a rifle that doesn't need it, I just go out to my shop and open up the jar of Hoppes #9 just so I can smell it! LOL

@johnnelson585

2 жыл бұрын

The comment so far, just plain common sense.

Nice 1955 hair cut.

Love all your videos.... Thank you for sharing your knowledge

@brownells

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I just have to share this. Back in the 40’s and 50’s, my Dad told me a story of a fellow worker who had bought a new rifle and asked Dad how to break it in. Dad told him that he need to shoot it at 25 yds, then 50, then 75, and finally 100. Told him if he started by shooting longer distances right off, that it would either stretch the barrel or would straighten out the rifling! The guy believed it!!

@hokehinson5987

7 ай бұрын

Fell for the old,...hey go get the shelf stretcher routine!🤣

I think this is great advice, thank you.

Outstanding video and presintation.

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I don't always do a "break-in" but I usually run a lot of strokes with jag and patch coated with JB bore paste. That seems to work for me. Enjoy your videoes.

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and for watching!

Anyone else notice the AT-4 in the safe behind them? I’m sure it’s inert but still cool.

@brownells

4 жыл бұрын

Shhhhh

@ramblinfan99

4 жыл бұрын

Next video is the barrel break-in procedure for the AT-4...

@ratagris21

3 жыл бұрын

For the peaceful protesters. It's a modern day scatter gun.

@skunkycatog

3 жыл бұрын

He made a video about it in the past. Caleb said he shipped it out when he was an armorer while deployed.

Missed a step- we must first break in our electronic devices to accurately stare at the Out Of Stock.

@Milspec_Chris

4 жыл бұрын

LOL right

@i0W4N

3 жыл бұрын

Habaha

@davidphilpott31

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@justmeiswear

3 жыл бұрын

I felt that

@TheKentuckyPatriot

3 жыл бұрын

HAHAHA

Great info!

"Just shoot the darn thing." Krieger of Krieger Barrels

Brownells, fighting that break-in barrel fake news ; ) Love you guys!

THANK YOU! someone in the professional community who gets it and doesn't believe you have to break in your average barrel. Breaking in a barrel is usually almost ALWAYS with match grade stainless barrels. Barrels with coatings or nitrided don't need to be broken in. You don't know how many times I've had to tell people "no, you don't have to break in your PSA nitrided barrel" as they shoot 3 rounds, clean it, shoot 3 more, etc for 200 rounds . lol

I've noticed that I have more issue with cycling issues during "breakin" period than accuracy, though I'm not shooting at a 300+ yrd range. I find that until 500 or so rounds at shot, that cycling stabilizes. you dont need to worry as much about the what ammo you buy, etc. My latest shogun, it didnt want to cycle well with cheap target loads.....higher velocity rounds shot with no issues. I broke the action down....polished with 2000 grit sandpaper, only the friction areas. Basically just polished off the factory black finish on those locations. Now it shoots anything I put in it.

Great info. Thanks!

If I'm paying top dollar for a match quality barrel, it better not need any more work from me!

@hardball107

2 жыл бұрын

It would cost you 10 times as much if the barrel makers had to do the work themselves. Krieger, Douglass and Hart all have breakin procedures for their barrels, that's good enough for me. To each his own.

@DrThunder88

2 жыл бұрын

@@hardball107 Did you run the numbers on that "10 times as much" figure? I ask because Hart specifically says, "We do not believe that a break-in procedure is required with our barrels." This is echoed by Shilen, whose FAQs include the answer, "Shilen, Inc. introduced a break-in procedure mostly because customers seemed to think that we should have one. By and large, we don't think breaking-in a new barrel is a big deal." Krieger does have a break-in procedure on its site, but their barrels are even more expensive than Hart or Shilen ($375 vs. $330 and $358, respectively). I don't understand how the barrels with the most DIY needed are more expensive than the ones with no additional work needed. I especially don't see a 1000% price difference between any of them.

@hardball107

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrThunder88 The break in would be all labor and with their rates mounting in a universal receiver, ammo and hours expended wouldn't be cheap. Funny what you say Hart said, I live right by their shop and I purchase their barrels from time to time. The last one was for a Remington I own and the shop people told me that it's a good idea and wouldn't hurt anything as did the benchrest guy's I shoot with. As for the others I've bought from they too have echoed that opinion. Even the new tube for my M1 Garand included instructions. As for the "exact cost" well, I'll just have to defer to people that want to crunch those numbers, let's just call it a metaphor and leave it at that, nothing's getting any cheaper.

Thank you!

The only barrel I’ve ever had to break in was my 338 Lapua. Spent some big $ on that thing. I did exactly what the directions said. It was a pain to do, but it’s my favorite rifle.

When I worked retail firearms sales and this question came up often. To set the record straight I called the tech support for Ruger, Remington, Browning, Christensen, Weatherby and Bergara and all of them told me very clearly is barrel break is NOT necessary. That's due to the nature of modern manufacturing methods. If your the barrel is made with cut rifling then its likely that you'll need barrel break in. However for the minority of hunters, long range shooters and competition shooters you'd have to check with your custom barrel maker and follow their recommendations. Most of the customers I sold your standard, everyday, over the counter rifles were convinced if they didn't break in the barrel they would ruin the rifle.

These guys are awesome

Really enjoy your videos

That was Very helpful. Thank you.

@brownells

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Hey, not sure if you’ll see this, but I love the hair! The sideburns are great, and thanks for the informative video

Hey @Brownells, Inc The description is from yesturday's video on Gun myths and steel cased ammo

I had never heard of barrel break in until recently. I was picking up a new pistol local shop and this guy getting his first rifle asked the salesman "so my buddies all say i need to break in my barrel, how do I do that?" My ears perked up thinking i had been doing something wrong for years. The salesman says it is really just urban myth and he never worries about it. Just go shoot it to get used to and clean it after wards and you are doing the same thing. Made me feel so much better. I called my grandpa and my dad on way home and both have never broke in a barrel. Tall about moment of slight worry. I asked a gunsmith about few days later. His response was "the factory test fires the guns before sending them out in most instances anyway. As long as you clean when you get home from store you should be good"

the only new barrel that I ever had was a 1938 VZ 24 and I actually noticed that it shot better as I used it. I didn't have any plan to brake it in, just shot it and cleaned it when I went home and the next time it was better.

That makes sense to me!

Beautiful rifle!!!

I've always found it a little hard to believe soft copper jacketed bullets will smooth out hard barrel steel in a few shots. I consider a barrel "broken in" after a couple hundred rounds with no particular cleaning protocol... sometimes no cleaning at all!

@CalebWayneMcCready

4 жыл бұрын

T D B it’s not removing material it’s just smoothing over small bits and such. Just because something is a softer material doesn’t mean it can’t effect a harder material. You can bend steel all day long with a plastic hammer.

@chrisgabbert658

4 жыл бұрын

If that’s your thing a barrel would never wear out or foul out ?

@feralbigdog

4 жыл бұрын

softer things have worn down or smoothed harder things for thousands of years, look at water going through a creekbed and the stones in it, it smooths them, gently taking down the rough from it, look at rubber bands, we can see they are soft, and bottlecaps are harder, wrap a band tightly around a bottlecap, it will eventually bend it, ive seen it happen. hard can be affected by soft, and you dont clean your barrels? i was taught you need to clean them, in concealed carry class.

@captainwahhh3952

3 жыл бұрын

​@@feralbigdog you dont need to clean firearms nearly as much as people make it out to be. Especially on things like ARs, Glocks, shotguns...

@jpettit27

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was Col Jeff Cooper who said that cleaning your rifle after every use is a way gunsmiths generate more business replacing rifle barrels because over cleaning will wear out a barrel prematurely.

Thank You Gentlemen for putting these out! I have learned a lot from you and the others who are making these videos. I used to rely on gun magazines for most of my information but I found that was foolish. Too many theories and misconceptions out there. Perhaps you have covered this topic before, but I keep hearing folks spouting the myth that one should not shoot .308 Winchester in a rifle chambered in 7.62X51 NATO. The amount of folks out there who are ready to come to blows is amazing!😱 Again Thank You for the informative videos. I loo forward to each one.

@elingeniero9117

3 жыл бұрын

There is No Such Thing as a7.62 NATO chamber. What there is is a lower pressure ball ammo used in the M14 rifle which is prone to the same problem of the 30-06 M1 Garand: Failures with full power commercial ammunition. The superior FAL rifle design uses a gas regulator to adjust the pressure.

@CrippledEagle

3 жыл бұрын

Yessir I fully understand your comment. I shoot a BM59 which is nearly identical to the M14. I basically have to shoot M80 ball ammunition for the aforementioned reason of too much power in some commercial ammunition. Certainly don’t wish to hurt my rifle. . The controversy that I mentioned is the one where people declare that one should not shoot 7.62x51 ammunition in a 308 chamber and vice versa. They state totally different pressures which in a way is true but it comes down to how the pressure measurement is taken. Typically the pressures would be nearly the same had both been measured by the same method.

I always explained it as deburring the barrel(the rifling).

its safe to say that this was a good video

Barrel break in is more significant for precision bolt action rifles. Run of the mill, 2-4MOA chrome lined, _M4gery_ semiautos probably don't get as much benefit from this care. Guys, you're on a roll with controversial topics. When are you going to do the one on 45 ACP vs 9x19?

@j.mangum7652

4 жыл бұрын

Oh gods no. These guys cover a lot of controversies but no. No no no no noooooo. Not the the most undying debate ever. 9mm vs. .45acp. I will settle it once and for all right now. That debate will go on until our grandkids or great grandkids will finally be able to first try out the laser vs. plasma small arms debate.

@tuberaider

4 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Putnam If you have it on a rest, and see the groups start to spread out or notice stringing, or you just notice the barrel get too hot, you should probably take a break. Some people like to use barrel coolers for that, I've also seen people pour water down the barrel to cool it down quicker. I'm not the most experienced of shooters, so hopefully someone else will reply with better information for you.

@Broman-es4sx

4 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Putnam having a little heat in the barrel as well as in your lubricants or gun solvents is actually a good idea, the pores Are more open to where you are going to get a better "smoothing out" effect due to the larger surface area your are able to cover when it is hot or warm versus cold.

@damonthomas8955

4 жыл бұрын

The 45 acp helped us win both world wars, the 9 mil fits more rounds in a similar size magazine, therefore it is a tie. I don't know why I wasn't asked to solve this debate in the first place, it could have saved so much time and ink.

@redrock425

Жыл бұрын

@@j.mangum7652 Easy answer .40S&W 😉

The only thing do with a new rifle before I shoot it is clean the bore to get rid of factory installed protectants. A tip, try Brownells Kroil oil and JB cleaning compound.

Caleb, good to see you're doing well. I guess any chance that you'll come back to Jim's is out-of-the question. LOL.

new clean it ..then shoot it ...then when done clean it put it away .. repeat every time after shooting ..

@dragoonTT

4 жыл бұрын

Simple yet effective, just like most things in life

@stevecampbell3175

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I do,,,don't over think it and stress on it just keep it clean

awesome channel

Strait up, no bs, Og's!!!

Thx guys.....

As a teenager, breaking in my new Model 94 meant taking it down to the beaver pond and shooting bullets into dead tree trunks right at the waterline to see how many feet straight up we could get one of those rotten old trees to launch. When one box of shells was gone, that gun was ready to hunt!

I think you answered my question about break-in on a cold hammer forged rifling barrel. I have rifled with a cold hammer forged button rifled barrel in 270 win. After firing about 10 rounds recently the barrel almost looks bright and lapped with minimal sharp edges. Your thoughts please.

All that said bores are coated to prevent corrosion especially for overseas markets so certainly clean prior to use

Remington studied peak accuracy on their stainless barrels back in the early 80s and found that a barrel performs at it's best around 18,000 rounds. That's alot of ammo to "break in" a barrel!

@ChunkyPuke4me

4 жыл бұрын

Remington also makes ammo. They have a vested interest. Now if only Remington's quality control was good enough to trust. I've found too many sideways and poorly set primers in my Golden Sabres.

Caleb looks like the guitarist in Walk the Line

Nice thanks

Just bought a S.S. 6.0 ARC barrel, any thoughts I to complete this process on that specific one? This will be for a LR Fun Gun. Thanks

Nice looking rifle!

I shoot, clean, store until next range session, repeat. I have 8k round on my bolt action 308 and it still holds about moa. The throat will go south from fire cracking before anything else bad happens.

What's the proper break-in procedure for that nice piece in the safe back there with the yellow on it

I just give a quick cleaning. Breaking in a barrel is for 1/2 and 1/4 MOA bench shooters.

I'm one of those guys who actually reads owner's manuals. The only rifle I have that the "manufacturer" recommended breaking-in the barrel is my Century Arms C-308. I went to the range and followed the instructions. My C-308 shoots well and is very accurate. I've read negative reviews of this rifle especially for accuracy and will bet that the whiners just did not follow instructions.

I have a Windham CRC AR10. They recomend a 200 round break-in. Is that for the barrel or the action? My guess is for the action.

In germany this really makes no sense. You never get a brand new, never fired rifle. It doesn't matter where the barrel comes from or who installs it, before you can make even one shot, the proof house (german: Beschussamt) has already fired a above max pressure load through the barrel. You don't know what projectile is, that they used and often you get a dirty gun, that you have to clean before ever shooting it.

@hardball107

2 жыл бұрын

Same here too, I've never bought a new rifle or pistol that hadn't been fired.

My son bought a SIG Cross rifle in 308 and it came with a specific barrel break in procedure. We completed the break in and that rifle shoots very sub moa. I've been shooting for over 50 years and have always broken in new barrels regardless if they were on a Rem 700 or a M1 Garand. Some people claim it doesn't matter but for sure it doesn't hurt and I've never had a rifle shoot over 1.5 moa and that includes my 1942 SA M1 Garand with a 1955 GI barrel. Even that used Gen 1 Savage Axis in 270 that I bought for a C note, wouldn't shoot with all the copper and carbon fouling in it, looked like it had never been cleaned. A good scrubbing and a couple applications of JB Bore Paste and a abbreviated break in, with 130gr. Norma ammo or my handloads it routinely posts .8" groups or thereabout. Was it the cleaning or break in ? Who knows but it never hurts and you only have to do it once.

@Allenmar73

Жыл бұрын

What is your procedure on new and used barrel? Are both the same? Thanks

How about breaking in your standard hunting rifle barrel? Like off the shelf Ruger or Remington and Winchester rifles ??

Sako says their barrels don’t need breaking in because they hammer forge their barrels. The man who built my 1k yd BR rifle, (Jim Borden) gave me instructions for barrel break in and one procedure he recommended during cleaning was to short stroke it. He tried to explain it to me but I never figured it out. Would you demonstrate it on one of your videos sometime? Thanks, I love your videos and always learn a lot even though I’ve been shooting for over 60 years and spent 6 years in the Marine Corps. I know what I don’t know and it’s a bunch. I sure miss Precision Shooter magazine.

The manufacturers say, in confidence, that the only reason they provide break-in instructions is because their customers demand one. Hardened steel cannot be "broke in". Shooting it will fill in the imperfections in the rifling and, up to a point, improve accuracy. Keep the carbon and dirt, etc. cleaned out but don't worry about copper until buildup begins to effect accuracy. I then only clean out SOME of the copper but not all. To each his own.