Questions as number of Sikhs passing test of religious purity to vote in SGPC polls halves

#CutTheClutter
Important questions arise on Punjab/Sikh politics as the number of “observant” Sikhs qualified to vote in SGPC elections halves. In Episode 1434 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta discusses the implications, shrinking Sikh religious politics, opening a wide vacuum in Punjab.
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  • @ThePrintIndia
    @ThePrintIndiaАй бұрын

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  • @ameya7723

    @ameya7723

    Ай бұрын

    Sikh politics is basically Jat Sikh politics.

  • @ameya7723

    @ameya7723

    Ай бұрын

    Apparently there are more divisions in Sikhs than Hindus. Amazing because their population is merely 1.5%

  • @ashokkher9551

    @ashokkher9551

    Ай бұрын

    Greatum the greatest Combine religion with politics result is self destruction Political wing of sgpc is sad, the badals Babay da rule dekya Raja da rule dekya Marasi jagnu khalistani ka be rule dekhya Bus aub tere bari ha Print kay sciencedan

  • @SatpalVerma000

    @SatpalVerma000

    Ай бұрын

    India is a fa*ke country, a colonial entity created by British..This colonial entity control SGPC and Sikhs.

  • @SatpalVerma000

    @SatpalVerma000

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ameya7723Indian politics is basically colonial politics to enslave dozens of nations

  • @arunkumargarg6129
    @arunkumargarg6129Ай бұрын

    Explore conversion of Sikhs to Christianity and silence of SGPC and khalistanis on it

  • @xenon_59

    @xenon_59

    Ай бұрын

    Gober community spotted

  • @SAGAR_S_JADHAV

    @SAGAR_S_JADHAV

    Ай бұрын

    Right

  • @MukeshAgrawal-pq4ft

    @MukeshAgrawal-pq4ft

    Ай бұрын

    Same thing for you man Give your peanut size brain some rest Or have a good debate ​@@xenon_59

  • @Real_Hindu-05

    @Real_Hindu-05

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@xenon_59atleast he from true name not like u coward what instigate u to misbehave with this guy he is talking truth even I always thinks where those krapandhari khalsas when these missionary openly convert here in punjaab but that's the crux they khalistani want money and citizenship from Europe and us thata why they permit it that's how they will save religion 😂😂😂 it's all money making politics

  • @Myanmartiger921

    @Myanmartiger921

    Ай бұрын

    @@xenon_59Sandeshkhali rape jihad gang cry

  • @libshastra
    @libshastraАй бұрын

    Sikhs are devout to their faith not their institutions. SGPC has failed the community and has done nothing about rampant conversions. Instead, SGPC choses to legitimize Bhindrawale. Misplaced priorities abandoned the community.

  • @parvadhami980

    @parvadhami980

    Ай бұрын

    This is self-destruction.

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@parvadhami980yes indeed and self destruction isn’t limited to Punjab. SGPC has a hand in Gurudwara politics in Canada as well.

  • @sankalp6872

    @sankalp6872

    Ай бұрын

    Centralizing a religion is always a bad idea. SGPC was bound to fail. However, you should not be hasty in judging Bhindranwale. You should read his full history. I know he did many bad things but even at its peak, Punjabi Hindus did not suffer like the Kashmiri Pandits. Bhindranwale was a product of Congress. The INC created him to dim the rise of Akalis. It was also during the era of some the dirtiest politics orchestrated by Congress against Punjab and particularly Sikhs. India was hosting Asian Games at that time and Sikhs were humiliated and searched on Punjab-Delhi road. Congress did not follow through on promises made to Punjab. Bhindranwale became a symbol of resilience against Delhi's oppression.

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@sankalp6872Every revolutionary chose to give up their life rather than sacrifice others lives. Bhindrawale, deliberately chose to sacrifice others lives rather than his own. He was a terrorist that the Congress incubated and SGPC choses to legitimize him despite his terrorism. No amount of “oppression” can justify the rampant Anti-Hinduism Bhindrawale was spewing especially in Vancouver, Canada.

  • @sankalp6872

    @sankalp6872

    Ай бұрын

    @@libshastra I take your point and I agree that there is no "justification" for Bhindranwale's act. The man was a terrorist. I do not sympathize with the "legend". However, I have a problem with the fact that the Punjab insurgency ends with a full stop on Bhindranwale. Congress was his partner in crime. In fact, he was their "Frankenstein's monster". This should be added to the "legend" of Bhindranwale. Congress should NOT get a free pass over this. Only a selective narrative is paddled over Bhindranwale because it suits his followers and absolves Congress of its role in the insurgency.

  • @sankalp6872
    @sankalp6872Ай бұрын

    I really appreciate the fact that the British and Nehru didn't establish an SGPC-like organization for Hindus. Decentralization is the only reason, Hinduism is now progressing. Caste as an identity might remain but the negatives aspects like discrimination are likely to dissipate over the next few decades. Economics+Migration+Urbanization+inter caste marriages have really blurred the caste lines.

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    British definitely did try to centralize Hinduism (HRCE), heck even Hindus tried it (Arya and Brahmo Samaj etc.). They all failed because each time, they excluded the most devout abandoned their own community. Relevance matters more than dogma.

  • @parvadhami980

    @parvadhami980

    Ай бұрын

    Decentralisation helped Hinduism survive through eras of invasions and destruction. Unlike Buddhists

  • @sankalp6872

    @sankalp6872

    Ай бұрын

    @@libshastra Thank you for the information. However, what do you mean by "relevance matters more than dogma"? Could you spell out the context?

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@sankalp6872your dogma needs to be relevant to the society to whom you preach to. Relevance would basically mean yuga-dharma.

  • @raviss98

    @raviss98

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@libshastra Wrong take about Arya Samaj. Its a mainly North Indian movement, as it was launched there. My Grandpa used to donate money & go to Arya Samaj Yagyas. He told me Arya Samaj was never formed to proselytize or correct faith of people. My family followed Sanatani Hinduism & Arya Samaj preaches Vedic Hinduism. But their Schools & Colleges have done a great service to North Indians. Even Bhagat Singh & Dr. Manmohan Singh studied in colleges established by Arya Samajis. In Central & Southern India it could not take roots.

  • @nobody4u77
    @nobody4u77Ай бұрын

    This is a very good thing that alkali are weakening which means radical characters like amritpal will find no purchase

  • @karate2252

    @karate2252

    Ай бұрын

    How dumb you are😂. Akali doesn’t represent radical elements in Punjab. Bjpmdoes

  • @amitsng
    @amitsngАй бұрын

    it not only takes a deep sense of knowledge, but a kind of attachment towards the topics you speak on, that distinguishes you from the other journalists. And that is precisely what brings me to listen to your podcasts. My immense respect to you Mr. Gupta. As a Sikh, It saddens me to see the kind of politics that is the SGPC. Sikhism, to me is a way of life, the gurdwara a beacon to my faith. What a royal mess this group has made of it.

  • @Maverick-zo4kc

    @Maverick-zo4kc

    Ай бұрын

    But Gupta is a supporter of Khalistani terrorists. Shame on you for respecting Gupta.

  • @shimankumaheshwari6904

    @shimankumaheshwari6904

    Күн бұрын

    So aptly put

  • @therandomthings6933
    @therandomthings6933Ай бұрын

    Kejriwal is doing same as Sonia with Punjab. Like bringing Punjab into national politics for their political gains and driving Punjab youth for their political campaigns and protests. Common Punjab people should awake and reject these political parties. With this chaos no investor is going to invest and it will increase unemployment and force people to migrate for jobs. State has most hard working people, if you drive them for development agenda there will be miracles in the state.

  • @ArjunSharma-ez9zu
    @ArjunSharma-ez9zuАй бұрын

    Thank you for this episode As a Punjabi it was an eye opener for me

  • @MukeshVarma9198

    @MukeshVarma9198

    Ай бұрын

    Punjabi hinduo ki bhi aisi koi organisation hai kya?

  • @ThePrintIndia

    @ThePrintIndia

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for appreciating and supporting our journalism, Arjun. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@MukeshVarma9198 yes, it's called the Sangh Parivar.

  • @MukeshVarma9198

    @MukeshVarma9198

    Ай бұрын

    @@libshastra ha wo to national level par hai.

  • @tombrad795

    @tombrad795

    Ай бұрын

    Lol. Your a hindi speaking Hindu your not a real punjabi

  • @eespn4764
    @eespn4764Ай бұрын

    Corruption in SGPC 😢😢 and radicalization 😢

  • @harminderkaur4994

    @harminderkaur4994

    Ай бұрын

    Badals and akal takht jathedars owns 70 five star hotels , only pertinent interest is use religion to acquire property by all means

  • @BaljeetSingh-nm8hu

    @BaljeetSingh-nm8hu

    Ай бұрын

    Because it is indirectly under RSS

  • @dharmicdiplomat

    @dharmicdiplomat

    Ай бұрын

    @@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu Dont bring rss anywhere rss has no role in sgpc

  • @prakashtiwari8003

    @prakashtiwari8003

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu i always see such comments and I laugh with face in my palm. Only fool will think RSS control gurudwara. RSS can't even control Hindu temples forget about controlling others religious institutions. Our temples are in government control and also our donation is being taxed to funds minorities like Christians and Muslims. 😂😂

  • @Bloodwolf1472

    @Bloodwolf1472

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu Agreed

  • @HeavenRacer422
    @HeavenRacer422Ай бұрын

    Sikhs have problem with BJP. But BJP is the only party which talks about illegal conversion in Punjab. Which celebrated birthday of giri govind singh in patna in grand way. Which celebrated nanak jayanti all around the world. Just irrational hate for a party. But they vote for a party which did 1984 😐

  • @jaswindersinghnarula4379

    @jaswindersinghnarula4379

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know about all Sikhs but I can say why I hate BJP - because they are communal, simple! Now you know! I hate any party or person who asks votes on the basis of their religion.

  • @Tuluva_Yavdheya

    @Tuluva_Yavdheya

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@jaswindersinghnarula4379 So when Gurus were defending all Dharams and Pants of their motherland , were they communal? Donno abt BJP ministers, but core ideology of BJP founders was to protect all indigenous worship ways of this subcontinent even the Nature worshipping animists Tribals. Abrahamic religions has no secularism, they are expansionist to core, no matter how much secular woke you try to be, they will not Miss the opportunity to convert ur relatives or neighbour. Standing against conversions is communal? Thn its duty of every indigenous native of this land to be "communal"

  • @SDFNI3894YR

    @SDFNI3894YR

    Ай бұрын

    @@jaswindersinghnarula4379 communal? lol

  • @theonethatexists

    @theonethatexists

    Ай бұрын

    And Muslim appeasement is secular? ​@@jaswindersinghnarula4379

  • @parvadhami980

    @parvadhami980

    Ай бұрын

    @@jaswindersinghnarula4379 Even Akali Dal is an outright Communal Party the same goes for the SP/BSP/AIMIM

  • @libshastra
    @libshastraАй бұрын

    Can we sponsor Chitleen to go to Canada and investigate the SGPC and Khalistan nexus? It will make the Print stand out.

  • @raviss98

    @raviss98

    Ай бұрын

    No she will face hostility in Canada there. Its pretty obvious.

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@raviss98 then she should report on the rabid hostility. At least Indians will be better informed about Canada.

  • @prakashtiwari8003

    @prakashtiwari8003

    Ай бұрын

    They will probably assault her.

  • @gigachad_6862

    @gigachad_6862

    Ай бұрын

    SGPC in Haryana Delhi Bihar Maharashtra r all controlled by BJP frontmen. Even In Punjab Akali dal badal still is frontmen of BJP, they r gun for hire even still trying best to have alliance with BJP but BJP knows that akali dal is lost cause in Punjab with 15% vote share and 4 MLAs out of 117 MLAs. SGPC Punjab is fully controlled by Akali dal now akali dal want that SGPC should start radicalism in Punjab so that BJP would start feeling to negotiate with Akali dal but this will not work.

  • @libshastra

    @libshastra

    Ай бұрын

    @@gigachad_6862 what SGPC does in India is quite different from what they do abroad. SGPC abroad don't recognize Ramdasias Gurudhwaras and have reduced themselves to a Jat only congregation. SGPC abroad also platforms the worst elements of Khalistanis - Nijjar was quite buddy-buddy with SGPC.

  • @Chakravartin007
    @Chakravartin007Ай бұрын

    Shekhar the camera quality is great...video looks like having high production value

  • @munishchopra-evans4419

    @munishchopra-evans4419

    Ай бұрын

    Much better and sound too

  • @prakashtiwari8003
    @prakashtiwari8003Ай бұрын

    I don't think the faith of Sikhs have decline instead they are fed up by religious politics either by sgpc or SAD. I have many sikh friends and we regularly visit gurudwara.

  • @ranjitambaskar1022
    @ranjitambaskar1022Ай бұрын

    Thank you Shekhersaab for the video.

  • @vijaykumar-vz7xf
    @vijaykumar-vz7xfАй бұрын

    Thanks for this episode, SG!! Learnt a few things I was not aware of, even after spending two years in Punjab!! Grateful!!

  • @ThePrintIndia

    @ThePrintIndia

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for appreciating and supporting our journalism, Vijay. I'm glad you found this episode insightful. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar

  • @jaibirkang5345
    @jaibirkang534529 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your insight! Really important

  • @maneeshbhardwaj1089
    @maneeshbhardwaj1089Ай бұрын

    You picked up an interesting topic indeed and gave so much clarity in just 19 minutes.. thanks …

  • @yossarianmcnulty7979
    @yossarianmcnulty7979Ай бұрын

    Brilliant analysis.

  • @mg.f.9023
    @mg.f.9023Ай бұрын

    Unity holds immense power for a Nation. When people come together despite differences, they achieve great feats, foster resilience, and create a sense of belonging and collective strength.

  • @sankalp6872

    @sankalp6872

    Ай бұрын

    Tell this to the "kaum" that was paying last respects to Don Muktar Ansari.

  • @noneoftheabove666

    @noneoftheabove666

    Ай бұрын

    What's that gotta do with the video about SGPC 😂

  • @mg.f.9023

    @mg.f.9023

    Ай бұрын

    @@noneoftheabove666 What's you bhakts doing in this and every video polarizing people and propagating hate?

  • @sankalp6872

    @sankalp6872

    Ай бұрын

    @@mg.f.9023 Your "quam" is in the business of polarizing people. In fact, they polarized it so much that created a separate nation for themselves. Also, you are the one who keeps spamming in every video.

  • @mg.f.9023

    @mg.f.9023

    Ай бұрын

    @@sankalp6872 Truth hurt you guys?😂

  • @rajwant04
    @rajwant04Ай бұрын

    Nicely done Guptaji. One more potential reason, the perception that SGPC has been a Badal private limited, esp since 1997

  • @glasnostin
    @glasnostinАй бұрын

    Fantastic episode as usual!

  • @harminderkaur4994
    @harminderkaur4994Ай бұрын

    In our villages all youths Sikh have shaved, this includes people who are above 50 also, blue turbaned akalis are renowned thugs interested in property dealing ,drug & arms smuggling

  • @sanjaysanan1
    @sanjaysanan1Ай бұрын

    Great Topic to discuss. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @deadlyninja8391
    @deadlyninja8391Ай бұрын

    DAO wins nothing else. learn from Hindus. Christianity particularly church based and its attendance has declined sharply in western countries. Once Modernisation comes to Islamic countries same will follow. DAO wins (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). Thats why Hinduism will win. Have multiple strands, multiple gurus, no 1 entity to control. Each guru is authority onto himself. Yes there will be decline and change in purity of pratices and the best will emerge but ur overall faith will win

  • @akhiljames8807

    @akhiljames8807

    Ай бұрын

    That is quite a big generalization. DAO wins only if DAO has a supporting central political power to control the chaos. There is no growth without centralization. Hindus have been late in this business i would say. Hinduism is in vogue because of BJP which is a centralized political power holding authority. Take out BJP and then your theory of DAO will collapse.

  • @anvivek
    @anvivekАй бұрын

    Very informative and educative episode on SGPC.. I never knew this in-depth division

  • @kuberchaurasiya
    @kuberchaurasiyaАй бұрын

    It's good news for Punjab.. Sikhs are breaking the chains of religion and politics

  • @cb9461

    @cb9461

    Ай бұрын

    Meanwhile Hindus are blindly jumping into cesspool of religious political Nexus. Looking at Hindus of today Sikhs who saw 80s have sense of deja vu as in we have been there before.

  • @siddhanti
    @siddhantiАй бұрын

    Excellent analysis. Good developments in Sikh society which augur well for ordinary people of Punjab, not necessarily devout Sikhs.

  • @kizunahida8246
    @kizunahida8246Ай бұрын

    Thank you sir ❤

  • @raunaksinghdhanjal4168
    @raunaksinghdhanjal4168Ай бұрын

    A very great topic to cover, there is definitely a great church within the larger Sikh society and tbh this was expected since very long.

  • @pvohra
    @pvohraАй бұрын

    The reality is that Guru Nanak's religion was universal and expansive - Hindus and Muslims flocked to it. Modern identity politics has inversed that path, with purity to identity being held as critical and universal appeal of the faith being considered less so.

  • @_kartik_chauhan
    @_kartik_chauhanАй бұрын

    IT feels like a personal loss what are sikhs doing ?

  • @sauron2000000

    @sauron2000000

    Ай бұрын

    Having fun it seems.

  • @gigachad_6862

    @gigachad_6862

    Ай бұрын

    Radical, Rich, Educated, illiterate but modest wealth Sikhs all r going abroad. I wish best of Luck to UP Bihari bhayias with "abb tumharey hawaley watan sathio"😅 But the worst part is bhayias also started sending their kids to canada in Punjab. My electrician who is bihari Hindu sent his daughter in Canada recently. Even few auto rickshawala from UP Bihar in Punjab have enrolled their kids in IELTS and PTE centres😅

  • @gigachad_6862

    @gigachad_6862

    Ай бұрын

    It is a phase all religions have their ups and downs. Religions reinvent themselves as an organic living organisms. Hinduism has three different categories like Bhakti movement of Kabir Mira adi shankara chariya when it was loosing ground to Islam, Brahminiculture helped Hinduism rediscovered and overthrow Buddhist kingdoms in India while Tantaric Hinduism/ tuna totka/ kala jado also helped adhiwasi lower caste Hindus to organise as they can't pay heavy tributes to Brahmins for Puja archana. But over the time, Hinduism keep evolving now it has 100s of different dimension. One Hinduism form is Nirgun Nirankar that oppose idols like Arya samaj while other do idolatry. Swami Narayan is almost become seperate religion along with Lingayas and Nagas in South India who don't think they r Hindus anymore. Similarly, Sikhs will evolve Rich educated will have course correction in Sikhism.

  • @frommars-sl8iv

    @frommars-sl8iv

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@gigachad_6862Sikhism is part of Christianity. Praise Lord Jesus. Guru Nanak was follower of Christ. Amen

  • @JBJP1
    @JBJP1Ай бұрын

    Great Episode

  • @SuperFunnyIndian
    @SuperFunnyIndianАй бұрын

    Enlightening!

  • @sanjeevsood531
    @sanjeevsood531Ай бұрын

    Very informative program.

  • @sanjaydongre
    @sanjaydongreАй бұрын

    hi shekhar , very informative episode about sikh religion , thank you for your efforts. greetings !!

  • @jaspreetrandhawa4105
    @jaspreetrandhawa4105Ай бұрын

    Well researched

  • @BharatThatIsIndia
    @BharatThatIsIndiaАй бұрын

    I think, as a nation we are going backwards in religious thinking and beliefs. Our scientific temperament is not increasing and actually it is decreasing. May be it is more visible bcz of social media but we are not progressing cerebrally.

  • @AnilJain-sg3kk
    @AnilJain-sg3kkАй бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ThePrintIndia

    @ThePrintIndia

    Ай бұрын

    Dear Anil, Thank you for supporting our journalism.

  • @yousercb
    @yousercbАй бұрын

    I have been thinking about this for some time. What blunder BJP would have committed to not attract Sikh community towards them but rather repel. Now this cut the clutter episode clears some part of my wonderment. The other part that is unclear is- what factors motivated Akali dal and the BJP to take such a short sighted decision to exclude large sections of Sikh community from voting in the SGPC in the late 90s

  • @raghvinderjoshi4667

    @raghvinderjoshi4667

    Ай бұрын

    I will hazard a guess. BJP was a minority party dependent on NDA partners for its survival in the Lok Sabha. Politicians of Shiromani Akali Dal had a great influence and in the true sense of tail wagging the dog, they got Vajpayee government to issue notifications that helped SAD and SGPC such that both became more inter-dependent and both had greater influence over politics of Punjab. In state assembly, BJP was just riding piggy back on SAD support and helped in diverting urban Hindu votes to the SAD-BJP alliance. SAD-BJP alliances turned Punjab into a den of short-sighted corrupt politicians and land of drug runners. No industry prospered. People of Punjab, disappointed by their elected leaders, tried Congress, which continued to disappoint. There being no traditional alternative, people of Punjab are presently experimenting with AAP. Let us see if there is hope yet for Punjab. So to answer your question, self interest and short-sightedness has pushed Sikh electorate away from SAD and BJP.

  • @sauron2000000

    @sauron2000000

    Ай бұрын

    Akali Dal saved Sikhs with this decision. Well done.

  • @yousercb

    @yousercb

    Ай бұрын

    @@raghvinderjoshi4667 thanks for the background. such a shame! I really wish there is a solution to bring Punjab back to glorious days. With AAP’s inexperience, the next 5 year term is not promising either. I would be surprised if BJP local leaders are not thinking through this. Are there any capable BJP/ SAD leaders left in the region?

  • @vaishali8451
    @vaishali8451Ай бұрын

    Very unusual yet very relevant top ic..noteworthy trend

  • @kumarm5961
    @kumarm5961Ай бұрын

    Nice video sir

  • @ManOfSteel1
    @ManOfSteel1Ай бұрын

    put pictures on full screen

  • @melitavaz4377
    @melitavaz4377Ай бұрын

    Very interesting story and good uncluttering

  • @shamikbhattacharyya6265
    @shamikbhattacharyya6265Ай бұрын

    SEKHAR SIR , HOW CAN YOU EXCLUDE THE NAME OF FAMOUS CRICKETER YUVRAAJ SINGH ?

  • @irasingh8884

    @irasingh8884

    Ай бұрын

    Yuvraj Singh is a dera follower. He is not a Sikh. He even got married in the Dera he follows which is in Fathegarh Sahib district. Plus he is not a Keshdhari sikh.

  • @parvadhami980

    @parvadhami980

    Ай бұрын

    He isn't considered a "Sikh" by Puritan Sikhs

  • @jaibirkang5345

    @jaibirkang5345

    29 күн бұрын

    @@irasingh8884the dera you are talking about is as per sikh rules and maryada and follows sikhisim.

  • @HardeepDugal
    @HardeepDugalАй бұрын

    Hi sir, thank you so much for this episode! This sentiment of a majority of Sikhs being excluded from Sikh politics will erupt and how! Time to either force Akali Dal / SGPC to be more inclusive or just get rid of the party!

  • @simransingh214

    @simransingh214

    Ай бұрын

    So you are saying Sikhs who are patit have extra marital affair marry outside sikhidrink and enroged in maya should be able to vote too😮. Jab eh gye bipran ki reet main na Karu inki parteet

  • @tanmayparmar2208
    @tanmayparmar2208Ай бұрын

    Namaste sir

  • @venugopal5746
    @venugopal5746Ай бұрын

    And sekhar Gupta says Muslims are not growing .this is a bogus propaganda......and he contradicts his own argument

  • @rohangarg4180
    @rohangarg4180Ай бұрын

    SGPC is an anti-Hindu, anti-India organization managed by a family run political party called Akali Dal. To confirm my claims, look at the books published by SGPC and their demands in general.

  • @armaanbrar6596

    @armaanbrar6596

    Ай бұрын

    Akali dal has alliance with bjp

  • @rohangarg4180

    @rohangarg4180

    Ай бұрын

    @@armaanbrar6596Had*

  • @karate2252

    @karate2252

    Ай бұрын

    Lol everyone who is not Hindu is anti Hindu or anti India 😂haina? Typical bhakt mentality

  • @manurr10

    @manurr10

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@armaanbrar6596ergo bjp is anti-national.

  • @singhskeptic5742

    @singhskeptic5742

    Ай бұрын

    ​@armaanbrar6596 not anymore

  • @praveenchoudhari7820
    @praveenchoudhari7820Ай бұрын

    General studies is about learning issues that are not in issue but can become issue and are issue

  • @siddharthchoudhary4851
    @siddharthchoudhary48517 күн бұрын

    First i would like to appreciate Shekhar Gupta and his team for fact based reporting on issue of Punjab and likewise appreciation for those who have put their thoughts in comment section. In these days, comment sections are full of abuses and cut- paste messgaes except of the print. Many have criticised SGPC for not defending Sikh religion and being indifferent to religious conversion and validate Bhindrwale as a Saint. Though they are right in their assertion however problem is far more complex and nunaced. 1. First, we should not forget that SGPC is controlled by a political party i.e. Akali Dal and like every other political party, their prime goal is survival and getting into power. So if there is overwhelming concern regarding conversion in sikh community they would be forced to react on it willingly or unwillingly. However in Punjab , there is no real apprehension regarding conversion to christianity in Sikh community. 2. What is the reason behind having no concern for conversion in sikh comminity? To explain it, we have to delve into caste equation of sikh community in Punjab. Jatt sikhs are at least half of population of Sikhs in Punjab and their dominance may be felt everwhere in Punjab. Traditionally , they were land owner and filled ranks of British Army. Being loyal supporter of British, they managed to get hold of Gurudwaras. ( By Gurudwara prabhandhak Act) . After formation of Punjab in 1966, they are able to dominate Punjab politics. Thier dominance may also be felt in cultural spehere like Music ( most of songs have Jatt reference), movies etc. Caste system is prevalent in sikhism though sikh scripts says otherwise and Jatt Sikh consider themselves superior to sikhs belonging to Schedule caste. So sikh political, religious and cultural elite ( most of them are jatt sikh) dont consider SC sikh as their own and they are not bothered much if they leave the religion. One more aspect is important that christian preachers in punjab have modelled themselves according to dera cultute so for a average Punjabi, they dont seem so different. Hitherto, Christian are unable to form as political bloc so political parties are not so worried. 3. As far as SGPC/Akali Dal's soft approach towards khalistan issue is concerned , again it is catering to its vote bank. The analysts are wrong to say that there is no taker of khalistan in Punjab. However the truth is that there is considerable population of Jatt Sikh who have sympathetic approach towards khalistan issue. Victory of Simarnjeet Singh Mann in Sangrur bypoll is evidence of it and mark my work, Amriptal Singh will also win from Khadoor Sahib. So instead of seeing SGPC as a villain, i see it as a saviour who hitherto able to kept khalistani issue in check through democratic means. This is the reason that every separtist like Akali dal ( Maan) or Amritpal Singh keep abusing Badal family.

  • @Little-bird-told-me
    @Little-bird-told-meАй бұрын

    The world is staring at an imminent population collapse. We get embroiled in the daily partisan politics that we often miss the big ticket changes. The politics for which we fight tooth and nail may hardly matter in times to come, as humanity will itself face an existential crisis.

  • @sauron2000000

    @sauron2000000

    Ай бұрын

    That will be good thing.

  • @akshytube
    @akshytubeАй бұрын

    There was hardly sentences but SG repeated it multiple times to mke 20 mins video.

  • @nitinjoshi6216
    @nitinjoshi6216Ай бұрын

    This situation could be reason of disenchantment amongst all religions across India Socially lot built up and people around should be commissioned to draw masses for real cause

  • @jaibholenath6900
    @jaibholenath690029 күн бұрын

    Taklu haivaan talks so sweetly and with honour for everyone but Hindu Pagan Mushriqs, their libraries (Taklu loves Single Book BTW) & their even semblance of Unity. Taklu is truly a person of BOOK (Strictly Singular)

  • @asvenkatraman
    @asvenkatramanАй бұрын

    But why Shekar Gupta is covering the SGPC elections mechanism and rules..what does it have relevance in indian politics? Why doesn't he cover other religions

  • @raviagarwal3924

    @raviagarwal3924

    Ай бұрын

    His channel his choice

  • @prakashtiwari8003

    @prakashtiwari8003

    Ай бұрын

    Because he is from Punjab and have followed Sikh politics very closely since Bhindrawale time.

  • @mtarkes

    @mtarkes

    Ай бұрын

    This is Punjab-Haryana obsessed channel. Someone farting in Punjab is more "news" to them than Water Crisis in Central & South India.

  • @raghvinderjoshi4667

    @raghvinderjoshi4667

    Ай бұрын

    I am grateful that someone of Shekhar Gupta's credentials is covering this ongoing journey of Punjab and Sikh politics. But for his ilk, the European and North American journalists will keep blaming the present state of India for religious intolerance and persecution of minorities. I wish the members of Sikh diaspora would watch these videos to have a deeper understanding of Sikh politics and the evolution of the faith.

  • @harmandeepsingh7662

    @harmandeepsingh7662

    Ай бұрын

    Because it can break india more easily than others

  • @sanjupunnen
    @sanjupunnenАй бұрын

    Please focus on south politics and issues with equal (or atleast 50%) interest

  • @subhrangsudutta8029
    @subhrangsudutta8029Ай бұрын

    Punjab is indeed a complex State; when every States have their own complexcity. ✍️✍️🙏🙏

  • @surendrabarsode8959
    @surendrabarsode8959Ай бұрын

    While Shekhar gives interesting details, it is not clear what happens if number of eligible voters for SGPC election keeps going down and down as we go ahead in time. As long as various political parties take part in usual electoral process, we should be fine. So what exactly is the link between the two?

  • @sakibaba

    @sakibaba

    Ай бұрын

    Issue is that a very radicalized minority of folks then control all the holy sites leading to a monopoly.

  • @AkashVora
    @AkashVoraАй бұрын

    We see this across all religions

  • @amandeepsangha2308
    @amandeepsangha2308Ай бұрын

    Beautifully done Shekhar. I've been a student of Sikh politics and history for the past 15 years. It is indeed developing into a Pressure point. Add to it the economy doing very badly in the past 25 years. Punjab slipping from no. 1 to no. 13 in the per capita income state ranking of large states. And a big belief of the leading Punjabi thinkers and trader community that the closing of trade ties with Pakistan is one of the major factors behind it. Probably rightly so. And not getting any support from the Modi Govt on that front. This is the linchpin that can popularize Modi in the Punjab Politics but they feel he won't do it as it doesn't suit his politics in the UP-Bihar areas.

  • @ThePrintIndia

    @ThePrintIndia

    Ай бұрын

    You make a fine point, Amandeep, and thank you for appreciating our journalism. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar

  • @amandeepsangha2308

    @amandeepsangha2308

    Ай бұрын

    @@ThePrintIndia I would like to bring a very important point in light - Improving ties with Pakistan for the benefit of a small state like Punjab is the last thing Modi govt would want to pursue. And you can't blame him, at the end of the day getting elected is the foremost important thing for any politician. But he also can't live with the fact that he lost 2 elections in Punjab. Until the Pakistan option is out of the question, He is using Hindu polarisation in Punjab as well to see if he can galvanize the Hindu votes in city dominated Constituencies like - Jalandhar, Ludhiana and Mohali etc. you should try to cover the work that is being done by ABVP and the way student organizations like ABVP are promoting his narrative in the college campuses like - DAV College Jalandhar, Chandigarh. The thing he and BJP are not realizing is that by doing so he is igniting a fire that has horrible consequences in the past. Something that was extinguished in 90s with the efforts of Congress, Akali and BJP combined. And it is indeed very dangerous. The dominant division of Pendu and Shehri (urban or rural) in the college campuses is transferring into a Hindu/Sikh divide.

  • @balajeepratham8200

    @balajeepratham8200

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@amandeepsangha2308I don't know about the bjp. Maybe what u are saying is right but doesn't this also apply to the sikh majority? What I have seen is a constant victim mentality. Punjab was a prosperous state. Who destroyed it? Punjabi jatt sikhs They still embrace unsustainable agriculture. See haryana, how it has transitioned. There is drug problem in punjab but can it happen without the collusion of local politicians and police. Many celebrate bhindranwale and u want hindus to like it. He and his men killed so many hindus. You all kill dalit hindus on accusation of blasphemy. Doesn't some responsibility also lie on sikh leaders?

  • @BlahAndBlah
    @BlahAndBlah29 күн бұрын

    SGPC should be dissolved. It’s a British creation, the temporal power is and should be with the Akal Takht. The keshdhari requirement is madness.

  • @navdeepkaur7096
    @navdeepkaur7096Ай бұрын

    migration is also a reason behind decline

  • @Abcd-vd8eb
    @Abcd-vd8eb25 күн бұрын

    It seems British Abrahamic institution SGPC will loose relevant in future.Dera like structure which preach actual non adultrate version of Nanak Panth should form more.The actual dharmic teaching of Nanak panth should be spread again in Punjab.

  • @kuldeepkumarbhat9648
    @kuldeepkumarbhat9648Ай бұрын

    Sikhs are an enigma !. Congress under Indira Gandhi desecrated the holiest of the holy shrines yet they Voted and continue to vote and support the Congress. Sikhs were massacred by the Congress goons in 1984 in Delhi and elsewhere in the country.. Yet the Sikhs in Punjab and across the country vote for the Congress. Sikhs are the most close knit religious group in India, yet a large number of them convert to christianity ; the largest conversions amongst any religious group ! Sikhs are much more liberal, and have the concept of equality and brotherhood built in within the religion, yet there are a sizeable number of SC Sikhs amongst the community and who feel as aliensted as other SCs feel amongst Hindus in general, if not more ! Sikhs as a community loved Indian Punjab, (particularly after they lost West Punjab to Muslims and Pakistan after Bharat was partitioned in 1947 and Lahore and Nankana Sahab were lost to Pakistan) the most amongst other religious groups loved their areas of concentration. Yet we see the immigration out of Punjab to other States and abroad is highest amongst them ! Sikhs are the most patriotic community among all other communities in Bharat, yet the separatist tendency for a separate State of Khalistan is the highest amongst this nationalist group ! Punjab and the Sikhs were, and still are, amongst the most prosperous states in India, yet inequalities and grievances amongst them against the system are highest in India ? ........ Lot of research is needed to understand our Sikh brothers of Punjab !

  • @jaswinders191

    @jaswinders191

    Ай бұрын

    You forgot the biggest enigma of this community They have always punched way beyond their weight 2% of the population and how eventful and distinguished history they had

  • @jaswinders191

    @jaswinders191

    Ай бұрын

    Despite tattering economy, punjab is one of best on national hunger index

  • @kuldeepkumarbhat9648

    @kuldeepkumarbhat9648

    Ай бұрын

    Sikhs were a sword arm of the Sanatan ! 🙏🏿

  • @simransingh214

    @simransingh214

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@kuldeepkumarbhat9648Sikhs are sword for meek not for sanatan. We fought hindu king .people who betrayed sikh Empire were hindu.

  • @kuldeepkumarbhat9648

    @kuldeepkumarbhat9648

    Ай бұрын

    @@simransingh214 Please do not forget till the 1960s and from 1700 AD only, every Hindu contributed to our Sikh army the eldest son that kept the great, patriotic Sikh population growing. Unfortunately, things are different now and the Sikhs are dwindling in numbers ! I hope you don't need any further proofs of that ?

  • @MukeshVarma9198
    @MukeshVarma9198Ай бұрын

    Par social media par Religion se related sare gyan sirf hinduo ko hi diye jate hai

  • @Ninjashank
    @NinjashankАй бұрын

    If Sikhs are the highest temple going group can you help us understand how conversion is so high in punjab?

  • @gigachad_6862

    @gigachad_6862

    Ай бұрын

    Convertion is high bcoz Sikhs r not a homogeneous group we have different varieties of Sikhs. There r schedule class Sikhs who were scheduled class Hindus once. They thought they would have better standard of living under Sikhism. Till 1947, It was good as very large number of majhabi Sikhs/ dalit Sikhs were in I dian army as of higher caste. Jat or khatri sikhs. Even Sikhs had large land holdings, big business so lower caste Sikhs were well accomodated. But After 1947, state patronize and wealth of Sikhs declined. In 1960s , 1970s due to mechanised farming SC Sikh labour become unemployable and dependence of lower and upper caste declined resulted in more caste discrimination in Sikhism. Even Govt of India, sponsored Deras like Radha swami, Ram Rahim Sacha Sauda, Nirankaris, Namdharis, Nanaksaris etc at least 2 thousand Deras so Sikh population is further divided. Christianity is increasing in Punjab especially Dalit/ majhabi/chamar Sikhs as gurudwaras don't accommodate them. Neither given them entrance to community kitchen to cook, yes they can eat langar but not cook in many village gurudwaras nor gurudwara gave utensils to dalit Sikhs for family function as Gurudwara manager jats think that these lower caste Sikhs will not return their utensils back😅. Christianity is taking advantage of that, Christian missionaries provide free education health care to dalit Sikh and Hindu Punjabis, even if main bread winner dies, last rituals r performed by Christian missionaries along with widow children receive monthly allowance. Only thing I am not able to understand that from where money is coming. All the foreign aid to India, I think is diverted into such missionaries work. I also feel that Higher caste Sikhs should understand seriousness of situation and act responsibly.

  • @BharatThatIsIndia
    @BharatThatIsIndiaАй бұрын

    Iran was trying to become a modern country in 1960's. Now women der are fighting for not covering head and face. Baghdad was center of science and knowledge before Ottoman came der. Now we can see what Baghdad has become. India was trying to become a modern country since independence and now we are always looking into past for almost everything. We hv to chose the path for future and live with our choices.

  • @psychologicalboss
    @psychologicalbossАй бұрын

    Whats vicky kaushal doing behind ABV at 4:23 😮

  • @manurr10

    @manurr10

    Ай бұрын

    New movie ka shooting kar raha h.

  • @priyankupadhyaya
    @priyankupadhyayaАй бұрын

    Mr Gupta when we do talk about the BJP Manifesto? Pls have a CTC on this soon #theprint #cuttheclutter

  • @ashokkumarmishra5796
    @ashokkumarmishra5796Ай бұрын

    Formed as armsmen to fight for sanatan dharma now persents majorities shikhs want fight against sanatandharma. They are cutting their own root .so decline of persentday Sikhs is eminent

  • @arunavaroy5889
    @arunavaroy5889Ай бұрын

    Old generation people are clinging on to all beliefs which don’t go as per current environment.

  • @bikironhazarika7453
    @bikironhazarika7453Ай бұрын

    Why should a hindu government be allowed to interfere in Sikh affairs ???

  • @meditationmind5223
    @meditationmind5223Ай бұрын

    SGPC is only interested in anti India agenda but won't do anything against conversions.

  • @nikhilshinde2185
    @nikhilshinde2185Ай бұрын

    Really good 'Cuttheclutter'. I request ThePrint make more videos on this kind of matters which are important and don't get main stream media coverage. I believe The Print is becoming a really good media organization by covering such important topics. Please don't take your train on Godi media tracks.

  • @ThePrintIndia

    @ThePrintIndia

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for appreciating our journalism, Nikhil, and I'm glad you liked this episode. Do keep watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar

  • @rajeshsawhney5596
    @rajeshsawhney5596Ай бұрын

    SGPC completely failed to protect Sikh religion from Christianity and hardly there is any efforts from their side as they are wasting their time in internal politics and corruption. Sikka are no more impress with SGPC working.

  • @noneoftheabove666
    @noneoftheabove666Ай бұрын

    Mera Yesu Yesu seems to be working very well 😅

  • @parvadhami980

    @parvadhami980

    Ай бұрын

    Will that result in irrelevance of Khalistani movement? After all if Punjab loses Sikh majority it would be difficult to argue for a Sikh State

  • @noneoftheabove666

    @noneoftheabove666

    Ай бұрын

    @@parvadhami980 There is a good chance that might happen in India. But I don't think it will stop Khalisthani comedy among the Sikh diaspora abroad.

  • @simransingh214

    @simransingh214

    Ай бұрын

    Many have come and gone to destroy khalsa but none have succeeded. If sikh population fall below majority then we will start singh sabha movement 2

  • @rishabhsingh1066

    @rishabhsingh1066

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@simransingh214is this a 19/20 th century.they are converted by thier own will while in 19/20 th century it was driven by Arya samajist.when you convert because for monetary reason how can even one can try . revivalism works only in certain grounds especially not going to work if you convert to religion which is minority by itself in india so creating a sense of collectivness is not going to be that easy.

  • @PradeepSNair
    @PradeepSNairАй бұрын

    Good topic but the analysis is incomplete. You said half way through it doesn't explain why the voter registration dropped to half. And only repeated the same analysis in the second half of the video. Disappointing.

  • @udayshome1793
    @udayshome1793Ай бұрын

    Kept saying 'STPC' ... Sekhar'ji again rambling. He needs to find ways to keep it sharp and short. Also, could have refferred to 'better' deras that that of the infamous Ram-Rahim. The guy basically defiled the sanctity of dera culture.

  • @reviewmaster3298
    @reviewmaster3298Ай бұрын

    What is a lower caste ?

  • @sulemancharania7027
    @sulemancharania7027Ай бұрын

    😂 Any how you're agreeing that's conversation are going on in Punjab

  • @user-pv4ze2gu1b
    @user-pv4ze2gu1bАй бұрын

    The other half went to kenadda. 😃

  • @bobpoop6025
    @bobpoop6025Ай бұрын

    to be a Sehajdhari Sikhs is not a strict standard.

  • @mg.f.9023
    @mg.f.9023Ай бұрын

    Vote for Unity. Vote OUT divisive polarizing forces!

  • @karate2252

    @karate2252

    Ай бұрын

    Like bjp

  • @jusmeetsingh1907
    @jusmeetsingh1907Ай бұрын

    It would have been far better if the law had not been changed and SGPC should have taken a risk to let the law remain in which any and every Christian, Muslim or Hindu could have posed and interfered unchecked in the Sikh elections.

  • @simransingh214

    @simransingh214

    Ай бұрын

    Ok so you want non sikh to vote in gurdwaras election

  • @jusmeetsingh1907

    @jusmeetsingh1907

    Ай бұрын

    @@simransingh214 Well Shekhar is against that law/ notification which limits voting to real believing Sikhs. He is using the excuse that that law disallows weak believers in Sikhism to vote in SGPC and so holds them back. And they rather than the real believers should be the priority of SGPC. But I agree, that by pushing for repeal of that law, he is also willing to let the door open for massive non-Sikh populations to interfere. I don't know why he would want that. But if he is saying so , I guess he must be right. He says he is a Sikh sympathizer, so we must take him at his word and not try to scrutinize him to see if he really means what he says and that he is not indulging in sweet sly deceptions in pursuit of anti-Sikh agendas..

  • @viswanathanseshadri1047
    @viswanathanseshadri1047Ай бұрын

    SGPC is greater than the Gurus themselves, it would seem.

  • @nitinpatel1039
    @nitinpatel1039Ай бұрын

    Let be real punjab downfall in directly linked to this orthodoxy and anti establishment sentiment that state need major rest, with each passing year it is falling behind comapred to rest of india

  • @rajanigali123
    @rajanigali123Ай бұрын

    You have done CTC immediately after congress released manifesto but you don’t have time for BJP manifesto except spending a minute yesterday. We all know BJP will form a government again so BJP manifesto is lot more important than the party, which may win around 50 seats.

  • @A4Aqua

    @A4Aqua

    Ай бұрын

    The manifesto has nothing new, so making a video regarding that is just a waste of energy and time.

  • @gauravrana4481
    @gauravrana4481Ай бұрын

    Presence of extremist elements in SGPS could also be a major reason. To the extent that a women having Indian flag painted on her face was denied entry to the golden temple

  • @gigachad_6862

    @gigachad_6862

    Ай бұрын

    Actually as a Sikh, we don't feel gurudwaras r controlled by right PPL right now. All the extreamists violent have taken our religious places. BJP has helped akali dal Gunda gang in India while CIA in western Gurudwaras

  • @A4Aqua
    @A4AquaАй бұрын

    never understood why some religions have an obsession with hair.

  • @harshdeepsingh7883

    @harshdeepsingh7883

    24 күн бұрын

    Because in ancient time every man was having beard and turban so in battle it was hard to recognise enemy so it was said that we have to make our identity different from general looking man so from that time uncut hair becomes a symbol of recognition and it is mandatory for us to follow and another reason was that guru said when ever someone in trouble they can recognised sikhs by their looks and it is a duty of sikh to protect the person and Sikhs cannot deny or get mix up with general public to avoid the same and logically sometimes i also feel the same that female sometimes come to me when they travel in late night because of the image that we have.

  • @singhmanpreet955
    @singhmanpreet955Ай бұрын

    A jodi is a always a jodi

  • @HrithikSD4368

    @HrithikSD4368

    Ай бұрын

    What's Jodi?

  • @sangeypenjor3947
    @sangeypenjor3947Ай бұрын

    Shekhar Gupta has become godimedia too

  • @raghvinderjoshi4667

    @raghvinderjoshi4667

    Ай бұрын

    Godi Media? Anything but.

  • @subodhjain6440
    @subodhjain6440Ай бұрын

    Shekhar Gupta has too much fascination with Punjab/Sikh politics. If not Punjab then he will talk about Pakistan. 😂

  • @aprofromuk

    @aprofromuk

    Ай бұрын

    he is a punjabi himself, thats why :)

  • @onestar627

    @onestar627

    Ай бұрын

    He is himself Punjabi

  • @raghvinderjoshi4667

    @raghvinderjoshi4667

    Ай бұрын

    Let me tell you, that is a very good thing and is in 'National Interest'.

  • @donbharij9589
    @donbharij958927 күн бұрын

    SGPC a group of people with badal as chief gunda, their only qualification is long beards

  • @nitarsh
    @nitarshАй бұрын

    The more i read about and look into the Sikh institutions of power, the more uglier it gets. Similar issues in TamilNadu, Kerala etc. Too much internal issues with people being openly hypocritical and hurting themselves in the process.

  • @sahiba5366

    @sahiba5366

    7 күн бұрын

    You’re learning about Sikhs from the wrong source.

  • @xenon_59
    @xenon_59Ай бұрын

    Total misleading video

  • @user-ft6cl7sl5m
    @user-ft6cl7sl5m9 күн бұрын

    Where is your founded lastest statistics...😅😅😅...we'll pass you as opinions

  • @Red_Moose
    @Red_MooseАй бұрын

    Sidhu Moosewala 🎉 The King

  • @rajendradangi2585
    @rajendradangi2585Ай бұрын

    Conversion in Punjab is rampant but these soo called blood of Sikh warrior busy in getting visa of Canada and revolution of khalistani.... And attacking innocent Hindus.

  • @jaibirkang5345

    @jaibirkang5345

    29 күн бұрын

    Who is attacking innocent Hindus? Has there any genocide or riots happening in Punjab? It's always the majority that has caused massacres not the sikhs. Correct yourself and check facts.

  • @siddharth7993
    @siddharth7993Ай бұрын

    Too much repetition, 3/4th of this video should have taken 1 min

  • @ramprasadsemwal2756
    @ramprasadsemwal2756Ай бұрын

    You are no more journalist, but a BJP worker.

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