Thanks Steve for another useful video. I updated from a Reverb G2 because it broke. I’m just so impressed with the improved experience with the Q3. Agree with you about the lenses. I’m blown away with the clarity over the whole of the FOV. In the past I’ve owned a Rift, a Quest 2 and Reverb G2 and the Quest 3 is a significant improvement over all of them.

@richardavery6935

4 ай бұрын

Totally Agree. Great comment!

@eddyb72

4 ай бұрын

Thnx, that was the answer i was looking for. Right now i'm still a proud owner of a reverb g2. With the upcomming changes with mixed reality i'm looking for a replacement. The Q3 will most probably be my next headset!

@pr4y

Ай бұрын

Ok thanx, I've started with Quest 2 from the beginning of MSFS VR, but then went to the HP Reverb G2 for better performance & quality. The G2 is fine for me but with. the end of WMR I think I'll go to the Quest 3! Pimax Crystal light was a second option, but I don't want to spend too much neither

Thank you for validating my choice of going with a Quest 3. As you say it’s versatile. I keep fit with cardio exercises, watch 360 movies and off course flying VR MSFS 2020. My RTX 4070 ti is giving me a decent experience - am quite happy with the 30+ FPS. it. I use a Kiwi after market head strap which is so much more comfortable than the original strap.

@jrherita

4 ай бұрын

What do you use for a facial interface for cardio? Quest 2 has some really good options but haven't seen a ton for quest 3 yet

@sagienaicker2064

4 ай бұрын

@@jrherita I am using the stock interface with an AMVR Silicone cover which eases the pressure of the stock foam pad and is easier to wipe and clean. It also prevents the stock interface foam from absorbing perspiration.

I recently upgraded from my G2 to a Quest 3, was a it of a ball ache getting wireless and wired connections set up and dialled in. But the difference is profound. I'm sure more expensive give a better image, but at no time in my Quest 3 do wish I had a better image. Not to mention all the benefits of it being a stand alone gives, great piece of kit. The price is not the price though, by the time you add power packs, head straps, controller straps, a dedicated router, link cable, even with that, it's still excellent value.

@cosmic4037

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking plus extras.

@ChrisM541

4 ай бұрын

That's a very important point most folks are unaware. Unfortunately, you really must spend on those extras to maximise the tech you're investing in.

@guybrushthreepwood3002

4 ай бұрын

M541 absolutely. All in, came in around £70 more than I paid for my G2 when they first came out.

Oh man, when I praised the Q3 when it first came out you gave me a little bit of a hard time. I'm glad you've come around and realized what a great piece of hardware it actually is. And it will only get better with updates just like the Q2 did. Which is also still a pretty good headset for the price. Keep up the good work as always. Cheers!

Thanks for another great video Steve, thank you - any chance that you could do a video on the SRS profile settings for the uShake 6?

When you mentioned if you can get away with super sampling. How much of it are we talking. 1.4 times on the oculus desktop app?

@42LGK

4 ай бұрын

I always use 1.3. anything more than that, I get the infamous graphics driver ctd.... in oculus app full res. 1.3 72hz oculus debug tool supersampling also 1.3 fov 0.8 space warp DISABLED ecode res 4128 encode bitrate 500 et voila 4070 ti 13900kf

A video with config of ODT, OTT and FS20 for FS20 RTX 4080 would be awesome!

I have the Quest3 and two things that make it really great is the price and the lens, spending 2k on a high-end VR does really make sense right now in the coming years this tech will get cheaper and better and cheaper, I do want the H3 rig you have!!

@yugdesiral

4 ай бұрын

we're about 10 years out from photorealism. exciting times. need a 180 fov and a future beast of metal to run it. but it's finally in reach.

Got a question - how do you record the game? I wanted to stream it to a friend on Discord, but the window I had to put into OBS was actually two small windows [one for each eye] and terrible quality :-(

Agreed, the stock facial interface is VERY abrasive with the stock strap, but once paired with a good strap (I use the BoBoVR M2 with M3 conversion kit) it actually becomes a lot more comfortable and non abrasive. I did go with a AMVR facial interface and I do like it. As you stated, VR Covers are slacking off by not having theirs out yet, are they planning on releasing one at all or are they just staying with that overly expensive elastic fabric cover?

whats the Sharpness like in the Q3 vs the Q2 as the displays and dials where not too sharp that you had to get closer to read some of the instruments

@Mashamillions

4 ай бұрын

Quest rift Quest 1 …they were my entry level headsets lol But I’ve seen that good strong WiFi connection on even the newer quest 2 picture quality is better but the quest 3 will blow your mind

On Amazon, almost 10% of buyers rate it at a 1 or 2. I have a few questions. With a wired connection, do the batteries last longer? The connection for non-wired use seems complicated, do you need to cable your PC to the router, and does low bandwidth affect. I'm mainly buying VR to use with X-Plane 12. Thanks

@RBTravels

3 ай бұрын

The cord does charge the headset while in use but not enough to keep it charged. It's enough tho that it's noticeable, maybe it would extend the play time by 50%ish. As for QuestLink, don't even bither, it's crap ... just buy Virtual Desktop (from the headset, not PC) and it solves many problems ... Meta should be ashamed of QuestLink

With extra added lenses, do you get less FOV? I tried this on the Pico 4 and my feeling was less FOV.

@ChrisM541

4 ай бұрын

Since your eyes will be further away, then yes, FOV will be reduced.

This is really helpful! Could you recommend a prebuilt pc (available in the USA) that could comfortably support flight sim and plane with the quest 3? Ideally $1,700 USD or less?

Can you read the inscriptions under the buttons in the cockpit without any problem?

Great video Steve! Have a Question 3 but haven’t tried it for MSFS yet. Still using my HP Reverb G2. Also have a PSVR 2 as well so it will be nice when it becomes PC compatible!! It’s nice to have backups for when WMR goes away in the future!

Steve enough improvement to upgrade to it from the G2? Or wait until it dies?

@Tygrmoth

4 ай бұрын

I’m not Steve, but I’m one of many that switched from the G2 to the Q3. I’m also one of many who think the switch was well worth it. The Pancake Lenses alone are worth it.

Im runing a 3070 and it just doesnt work for me like the G2. One main issue is it keeps freezing if i come out of vr mid flight using virtual desktop.the headset freezes but the sim is still running and have to power off headset.

@RBTravels

3 ай бұрын

I have the exact same problem with a 3050. I don't know what the min graphics card should be but it certianly isn't the 3050

I loved my Quest 2 and recently upgraded to the Quest 3. The one thing that always annoys me is the transparent white band across the bottom of the image occasionally. What causes it and can I prevent it? Does it in MSFS and DCS.

@toads4ever

4 ай бұрын

I had it on my quest 2 occasionally. Did you change the bitrate in either the Oculus debug tool or Oculus tray tool? If so, I believe turning the bitrate down should fix it.

@therogerxiii

4 ай бұрын

@toads4ever Thanks mate. I'll give that a whirl.

@toads4ever

4 ай бұрын

@@therogerxiii It was either that or the encode resolution width. I honestly don't remember.

Why do you use the Q3 wired? I bought a quest air bridge USB dongle and dcs and msfs are butter smooth with zero faff. Had a g2 for years. 1 hr with the Q3 with no bloody wires and it's amazing. Fresnel lenses suck. My prescription lenses haven't arrived but the Q3 is clearer without them than the G2 was with them!

I have a Reverb G2 with a 4090 card and am happy with it other than the small sweet spot. With WMR going away I've been looking at the Quest 3 as a possible replacement. Will I be disappointed? Or would I have equal or better clarity with a bigger sweet spot? I know the resolution is lower on the Quest, but the Pixels per degree are higher so would I have an equal or better image clarity? Any input is welcome. Thanks!

@user-lo5ic3hx4b

4 ай бұрын

My G2 broke down I took a chance on the quest 3 my God The Sweet Spot is huge it's like the whole screen is a sweet spot

@ThorNjord

4 ай бұрын

So overall, are you happier than with the G2?

@mplmpl7780

4 ай бұрын

I love the G2 but the crystal eye tracking ups the fps big time

@ThorNjord

4 ай бұрын

You have higher fps with the crystal than the g2?

@mplmpl7780

4 ай бұрын

@@ThorNjord hi mate yes because of Quad Views eye tracking, I run it on 72hz at 100% Resolution ,DCS all high with TAA. Never drops below the 72fps, so no crappy reprojection. Image in the crystal is very clear, I used to add CAS but with the trial program Almalence CAS is not needed. 4090 with 7800X3D FYI

What kind of pc will run this nice in vr need a few pointers on what to get

with some tweaks you get an absolutely brilliant clarity with the q3, love this headset! i was a display port fan since day one, and i never thought that im saying this anytime, but its so good wireless! fits perfect with my new ryzen 7800x3d and the 4080 super! everyday a new beatiful experience with this beauty 😁

how do people usually handle interface like flaps/rudders/speed while wearing a VR headset. It would be fairly difficult to work real life buttons with the headset on it seems?

@wafflesarelove

4 ай бұрын

Muscle memory

Yes... I will buy this VR set. However what the best value gpu I need to enjoy fs2020 smooth. What is SIM GUY using for a gpu here?

For months I've been reading reviews and watching KZread videos trying to decide whether to get a Pimax Crystal or Quest 3 to replace my Rift S - Steve your videos have been really helpful, thank you. I'm well familiar with the pros and cons of both and am sure I wouldn't be disappointed with either, but I really would like to know whether the Quest 3 would be 'good enough' for me. I'm mostly on MSFS2020 or DCS, but occasionally venture into other games and am just about to purchase a high end rig with a 4090. My real question is, does anyone know of anywhere in UK I could go, to physically put these headsets on with MSFS2020 loaded up? I reckon I could make my decision in seconds and know whether the extra £1,000 for a Pimax Crystal is worth it. I contemplated flying to Las Vegas for the Expo to try them out, but could buy both headsets for what that trip would cost me! Thanks.

I am still weighing up to get a quest 3 now, or waiting for a native PCVR headset to come out with comparable lenses. The main thing putting me off is that it's standalone with PCVR taped on, at least how I feel with my current Quest 2. I have no interest in the standalone usage

I think I will keep my Reverb G2 a year or so more, and see what else there will be next year. I just wish I could find a place where I can try the headset before I decide to buy it, because I am afraid I will be disappointed I spent so much money on a headset which might not be a huge improvement over what I currently have.

@ruiaz701

4 ай бұрын

I have the G2 and now the Q3, both are good but the Q3 lenses are better. I continue to use the G2 for MFS and car racing and everything else in Q3. The G2 are still very acceptable. It's a good option to wait another year or two. The Q3 are not much better than the G2, just the lenses, the G2 has a little better resolution

@lloydyt1

4 ай бұрын

Same keeping hold mine for year or so, still works great with 3080ti updates and the new smooth flight addon, plus so much better quality in G2 with latest drivers in realworld satalight photo geometry.

Thank you for a great review, I think I'll upgrade from my Q2 to a Q3. Quick question: Can you easily swap from VR to Monitor during a flight? I primarily fly 737s on 1.5 to 2 hour flights. I don't necessarily want to fly VR the entire flight. Can't imagine cruising on autopilot for 1 hour with a headset on. Ideally I'd like to start in VR get to cruise altitude and switch to monitor. Upon starting decent, switch back to VR. Also to note I prefer to fly in Vatsim, hence the reason I'd like to swap on the fly. (no pun intended). Thank you.

@stephenmckinnell7791

4 ай бұрын

Yes you can. It’s one of the plus points among many imo. I love mine.

@basvh666

4 ай бұрын

Ctrl + tab just switches between vr and monitor in msfs 2020

@68sixgun

4 ай бұрын

Or the windows key

@SETHalpine

4 ай бұрын

When you taste to the flight in real 3D...you won't come back to the flat world.

Really need to review the queat pro again as its had lots of updates etc.

Just bought one so it looks good from your end. Thanks and Slainte 👍 👌

Great video, and certainly food for thought. I have a Quest 3 as my first VR experience and I love it. Run a 3070ti and it is great in DCS, not so much in MSFS but I will only do GA in VR on MSFS. I am hoping to upgrade my gpu and then at some point, perhaps go Pimax. That will be a long way away though. My dad tried DCS on my headset and was blown away that for less than a grand (not including PC) I have quite a good VR setup

Thanks again tremendously content - do you now prefer the Quest3 over the G2 Steve?

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

That's very kind thankyou. Yes, simply because the Reverb G2 is all but abandoned at this point :(

@nrg753

3 ай бұрын

​@@VRFlightSimGuyI bought the G2 because of you and Seb. Well looks like I'm going to follow you both again in to the Q3, better start saving. I wish MS would open up WMR so that we can hack together some custom drivers for it 🙁

For DCS and Iracing ONLY how does it compare to Pimax 5ks?

I have to agree. I didn't have the Quest 3 on my list for a long time. When my Reverb G2 broke and I looked for an alternative, I came to Pimax Crytall and alike. But gladly someone recommended the much cheaper and versatile Quest 3 to me. I tried it and I am amazed, how good it works on Flight Sims for me!

Would you say that you get a reasonably realistic immersion experience?

If you could compare the Q3 vs Pico4. The same setting, same flight etc. How much better is Q3 in % compare to Pico 4 in MSFS?

@basvh666

4 ай бұрын

Pico 4 pro is better than quest 3 . And same price . But needs to be imported

@basvh666

4 ай бұрын

Pico 4 pro is better than quest 3 . And same price . But needs to be imported

@SETHalpine

4 ай бұрын

Lens of the Q3 are better...but it's in late...! I've played with the Pico 4 during months before the Q3 arrival... Arriving one year later after the pancakes of the Pico4, for more money...and not few $...you 've to buy a new accessories for improve the confort The main flaw of the Q3 is the screen to my taste...Meta has made the choice of doesn't improve the resolution...same tha P4...one year after... So i can bet that compared to the Samsung, Huawey, or even Pico's next headset, the Quest 3 isn't future proof at all. This is why you'll see a wave of ads from youtubers during the next months...Meta want to sell before the announcements.

I don't understand this standalone concept of the Quest III with its internal memory, battery etc. Can I use this headset by simply connecting it with a cable to my computer and playing games (mainly MSFS) from my computer, without needing to install anything on the headset itself and can it be charged/ powered via cable (so no hassle with very limited battery capacity)?

@BrowithStoryCool

Ай бұрын

No, it's not powerful enough. You need a decent pc

So what does it look like in the actual headset? Others show this.

I'm seriously considering selling my Crystal and downgrading to the Q3. I just don't have any confidence in Pimax and the hardware. A few times now, the headset just refuses to connect right away and for some reason, in DCS, the DFR switches to fixed FR after a while. When it works, though, the Crystal is awesome.

I know it's a quite old video but maybe someone has the answer: I can't keep my quest 3 charged while connected with link (original meta usb cable). The battery drains. More slowly than when used standalone, but it doesn't recharge nor maintain the charge. My mobo is an asus strix b550e gaming. Tried both front and rear usb c ports. I've read that ability to charge depends on usb wattage. Can someone suggest me a pcie usb c card or a usb hub that grants both a good data connection and battery charge (or at least the not-discharge)? Thanks. I fly mainly general aviation, but I wonder if a several hours long intercontinental flight is even possible with the q3 battery limitation.

Is the Steam version of MSFS2020 a prerequisite for using the Quest 3 with MSFS2020? I have the Windows Store version which runs VR in WMR. Is there a way to run the Store version in VR with the Quest 3?

@Tygrmoth

4 ай бұрын

I don’t think you need SteamVR to run MSFS. I run mine with OTT or VD. I could also run it with Steam link or SteamVR. It’s pretty versatile that way.

@bigcrackrock

4 ай бұрын

It has its own software and shouldn't be a problem. I was still using the Gamepass version of MSFS when I first got the Q3.

@MichaelStrother

4 ай бұрын

@tygrmoth/@bigcrackrock Sorry I'm unclear on this... If I start VR Mode from within the sim, the default behavior is to start VR via WMR.

@GetOffMyyLawn

4 ай бұрын

You can switch between steam vr and meta xr runtimes... neither of them require the app to be purchased on steam.

Hello, thanks for the interesting videos. Maybe you can help me with one thing. I don't know why I have very low sound level in msfs 2020, I use mq3 and virtual desktop and virtual audio driver, I have all sound settings set to max in the game and on my PC. Unfortunately, in Google, I have to set the volume to three to hear the sound clearly lines before the end of the scale in mq3 goggles. My ears are clean and functional, if anyone could he wanted to ask me about it. In other programs and applications, the sound is good level, the problem only occurs when I fly in msfs 2020. Thanks and best regards.

i jumped from a rift s to a quest 3 and i find it a side grade the clarity is great but the binocular overlap is terrible for my ipd 63.5 and on my 3070 pc i get terrible performance using wired link

Have a few friends thinking about replacing their reverb g2- maybe quest 3 really is the most reasonable option. Me, I just got the big screen beyond ad an upgrade from my pimax 8kx. I very much enjoy the beyond, but it certainly is a very specific device that I could not recommend to everyone.

Do you need a PC and meta quest 3 together to run msfs, or is quest 3 sufficient on it's own ?

I had PICO 4 and Quest 3 for testing...I returned both, but I will get Q3. I know comforn is not there, but lenses much better than P4. I play mainly MSFS. My PICO 4 had some glare, cannot remember if Q3 was the same, what is you experience? All pancakes lenses have glare when is bright/darker object? I have RTX4090 WIFI6. I used VD and with P4 I had max 1200Mbps and not stable, with Q3 2400Mbps and stable. I would like to ask SSW Disabled or Enabled?

@basvh666

4 ай бұрын

Why not try pico 4 pro . Its way better

@shawtdusanshawt

4 ай бұрын

@@basvh666 better? What is better?

@SETHalpine

4 ай бұрын

Lens of the Q3 are better...but it arrive one year later after the pancakes of the Pico4, for more money...( + you 've to buy a new accessory for the confort) The main flaw of the Q3 is the screen to my taste...Meta has made the choice of doesn't improve the resolution... So i can bet that compared to the Samsung, Huawey, or even Pico's next headset, the Quest 3 isn't future proof at all. This is why you'll see a wave of ads from youtubers during the next months...

expect the gpu is the other weak link, tried quest 3 with rtx 4070….not ideal, but nvidia provide really narrow memory bandwidth on lower end 4000 series. expect 3000 series get better results?

Also … the new 120hz support Quest link for sim racing is now on another level. How the Q3 copes so well with only USB is very impressive.

@TheOriginalCoda

4 ай бұрын

Video compression. And USB is bloody fast.

Would you say that this headset is an upgrade from the HP reverb g2

@coolts

4 ай бұрын

Day one G2 owner here. Quest arrived yesterday and I was flying within 30 mins with no cables. Using controllers I can lie on the couch and fly. Lenses 100% clearer than G2. Passthrough very useful and works. G2 on eBay tomorrow.

For DCS and MSFS is the 128gb version enough onboard or the 512gb.....just using for flightsimming

I've recently bought a quest 3 since my reverb g2 has broken the cable. I've used it to watch youtube videos in AR xxl screen, chat in whatsapp, navigate the internet and play pcvr with a link cable. But not tried flight sims yet 😅 It's not that better vs my old g2, but it's a lot more versatile. It's like having more devices in one. It's also quite confortable with glasses (but I've ordered prescription inserts anyway).

I own the Pico 4 (with an RTX 4090), is it worth upgrading to the Quest 3 for flight simulation? I don't think so at first glance because the resolution of the Pico 4 is slightly higher than the Quest 3, and they also have Pancake lenses (which I love!). Thanks for your help :)

@shawtdusanshawt

4 ай бұрын

Tested both. Q3 better lenses. More clarity, bigger FOV, better brightness. But worce comfort compare to P4...I am still going to get Q3 in the end. I know more expensive, but, when I play MSFS and I have not much time to play I want to have the best quality from the game. Also RTX4090 and AV1 via. VD is perfect. Also wifi 6 and locked 160Mhz give 2400 Mbps.

@cedrick7679

4 ай бұрын

@@shawtdusanshawt Thank you for your response. I also use Virtual Desktop and have Wi-Fi 6. I will consider replacing my Pico 4 headset based on your information.

@shawtdusanshawt

4 ай бұрын

@@cammy9r I didn't like the glare with P4

@SETHalpine

4 ай бұрын

just keep the Pico 4 and wait... Especially if you want better resolution..eye tracking... Compared to the Samsung, Huawey, or even Pico's next headset, the Quest 3 isn't future proof at all. This is why you'll see a wave of ads from youtubers during the next months...Meta want to sell before the announcements.

@shawtdusanshawt

4 ай бұрын

@@SETHalpine This is interesting, but what will be the cost of these new VRs? Double price compare to current Q3?

I owned tha HP Reverb G2 and the Varjo Aero, maybe this year will go for the Quest 3. Thx for video greetings from Mexico. 👋

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

Thankyou for your comments, I'd love to visit Mexico someday.

@diegoperez3278

3 ай бұрын

I went from a HP Reverg G2 to a Quest3 and I ended up returning quest 3, I can't stand video compression, I will wait to a proper displayport VR headset

I have exactly the same prosumer profile of yours, Im I'm desperate to buy a hight end headset to replace my Reverb. The think is that I don't like the Pimax at ALL. Its massive, looks like 2010 tecnology from outside, and I don't like the company as a hole... I'm really looking foward to the VR1 as my olny option at this point but have no idea when it's coming out... Got a feeling that eraly adopters my find some trouble too... I know I asked you before, but do you thing buying the quest 3 while waiting for somnium is a nice move?

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

If you can afford both, then yes you'll love the Quest 3, even as a muck about headset. I cannot wait to show a lot more VR1 content soon... ;)

@salazarbernardo

4 ай бұрын

@@VRFlightSimGuy I mean... I wont keep both, thats for sure. But if is really about to ship as they say, I got a feeling I should w8...

I have just purchased everything from the gaming computer/monitor, chair, desk, and controllers. I purchased microsoft flight simulator on Steam. Now this month in the process of buying the honeycomb yoke and throttle, and pedals. My final purchase will be VR heads. The Q3 is in my budget. After your review, I feel it's the best all around option.

100% agree. The Quest 3 has incredible value for money and I couldn't believe the difference that the pancake lenses make. I couldn't bear the G2, probably because of my astigmatism, but the Q3 is amazing. With MSFS, the 4090 is a must, though, sadly. The immersion is fantastic - that Cessna 172 really feels cramped!

@richardavery6935

4 ай бұрын

It runs pretty good on a 4080 as well.

If I only care about msfs, what would you prefer on a top end pc and no budget constraints?

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

Somnium VR1.. more videos coming soon.

I wonder if with a rtx 4080 i will have a decent experience with the quest 3 or if i will regret not buying a rtx4090? Still a 700 euros premium price. By the way, i returned my pico 4 under warranty, black level issues on the left eye, and poor optics, but good confort. I plan to buy the quest 3 next month.

@SETHalpine

4 ай бұрын

I'm using a 7800XT 530€ with no problem on MFS 2020 and the Pico 4.... Best buy at 400€ compared to the Q3 arriving one year later at 600€ bill (accessories to add to correct the lack of confort)....

I have the quest 2 (2 years old) and still using x plane 11. (X plane 12 sucks.) I have had loads of link issues connecting to the PC. I never know from one day to the next if it will work. I am seriously wanting to switch over to MSFS but have spent loads of money on planes for x plane.....I may just buy the quest 3 and make the jump to MSFS.

I challenge you to get it to look good in more demanding aircraft ;) (fenix or pmdg) Simple a/c are easy-breezy. Still tweaking mine, but find myself back in the G2 over and over.. I cannot get the same sharpness in the Quest3, text and numbers is much more blurry than on the G2 sweetspot. Frames are say 30-40 percent lower than what I get in the G2 side-by-side tested and that either cabled or wireless. Oh and the rig is 13900+4090. Tried the FPS and Smooth flight addons but they just knock the sim down to vanilla XP11 quality so they aren't really helping. I would say that for high end large airliners, the Q3 is not something I would recommend... for now. I do love the UI which I have missed since migrating from oculus. the controllers, the versatility as you mention and the ease of use and all that jazz.. But the pispoor under performance, blown out whites on sunny days, color bleed on texts in MCDU etc and a load more issues keeps me from loving it.. Im sure it has alot of potential under the hood, but without a direct link to the gpu its not performing. But the kids love it and it stays :)

This is great reassurance video for me. I almost exclusively fly DCS and MSFS, not many other games (up till now). I was really debating between this and the “extra mile” of the Pymax. The BogScreen looked great, but I didn’t want to also have to deal with bases. After careful wallet considerations, I decided I couldn’t afford the Pymax. I love the Quest 3: it does all I need it to do, I find it I prefer the easiness of wireless vs the extra bit rate of the link, and I actually think that onboard games are great! Demeo has stolen a good amount of my flying time being an old D&D player. I also like the pass through capabilities. I like being able to share with the family, record the displays, casting to the TV. A lot of things that would require jumping through hoops to accomplish in other platforms. Last but not least, I have a beefy 3080ti, and it is already almost incapable of the full res at highest specs on my preferred games, so in order to take advantage of higher res, I would have had to sacrifice more image “niceness”, so I would not have been able to take advantage of the higher res displays. Maybe the blacks is the one minor complaint I would give the benefit to the competition, but it doesn’t offset all the other advantages, and for the least amount of money in the market. 5ey knocked this one out of the park, really.

I needto ask though. Is there any color separation? My HP G2 is annoying the #%^& out of me.

I agree with you. I almost bought the G2 and something told me not to, and I really didn't want to spend 1K+ USD, but I had to upgrade from the Rift S. Literally the only con, like you mention, is the comfort and need for aftermarket headstrap. But get a BoboVR strap and battery and boom, you are set!

@Rspence_86

4 ай бұрын

i have the rift s and also need to upgrade, did you go for the quest 3? if so is there much difference would you say?

@pchappy2.0

4 ай бұрын

@@Rspence_86 I am not sure what kind of system you are running, but I upgraded my PC at the same time, so not necessarily a 1to1 comparison from my POV. That said, it was absolutely a phenomenal upgrade just from the headset standpoint. Like he says here, those pancake lenses really make the difference. The amount of clarity you get just from that alone is why I made the jump. If your system can handle higher settings, it makes it all the more worth it in my opinion.

@somefuckstolemynick

3 ай бұрын

Those straps with magnetic battery packs are brilliant. Balances the headset, much more comfortable and I can hot-swop batteries while playing for infinite cordless playtime? Yes please and thank you.

yes i love the head set for other games but at the min teh water debris warning after the update every body going mad they cant us there cable to the pc or plug with out it popping up meta are not intrested in fixing it yes you can us airlnk if you have good wifii but if not you have to us the cable

I have quest 2 and 3 and also the G2, I now favour the quest 3.... like you say, easy to use, light on the face and visual quality is up there!

The magic is the Quest 3 or the 4090??

After your pimax video's i was thinking about buying that one. Now you made me reconsider that 😅 thxs!

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

I have a comparison video of the two out soon 😄

@HammieNL

4 ай бұрын

Ohh nice than i will wait for that 🎉

it's probably fine and all of that kind of stuff, but it does not make any sense having that VR to play on the Microsoft flight simulator if I must to register the headset with a Facebook account

@laartwork

4 ай бұрын

They took out Facebook account a couple years ago.

@TomKristiansen

4 ай бұрын

@@laartwork Really??, thats is new and put things in a diffent perspectiv.

@khaledassaf6356

4 ай бұрын

You just need a Meta account, which doesn't have nearly as much requirements as a Facebook account. It can even just be a burner account, really, especially if you're only using it for PCVR.

@TomKristiansen

4 ай бұрын

@@khaledassaf6356 hahaha, why do i need a meta account sao i can fly. that does not make any sence, Meta dont need to know when i am flying on my pc.

@Gruxxan

4 ай бұрын

You don’t need a Facebook account, just a meta account, so you can purchase games

Is it safe to update Windows 10 for Reverb G2 users?

@woodyw9798

4 ай бұрын

Yes but dont change to Windows 11 if you plan on keeping the G2

I absolutely love the Quest 3 and I am glad that I could buy it when it was released, as my G2 cable was broken as happened to many of us. HP is definitely the best recruiter of the Quest 3 😂

Does that mean you have to be loaded to be a hobbyist. That looks like the Phlegrean fields you are flying over.

Curious about psvr2 on pc

Agree with all you have said here..(and i did alot off highend vr headsets as well)

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

Cheers thanks for your comments ☺️

What link cable are you using?

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

One from Amazon, I've had in years.

I totally agree with what you say in this video about the Qeust 3. I upgraded from the Rift S to the Quest 3 and was amazed at the clarity of the pancake lenses and the nice wide sweet spot. I also like the color passthrough with the recent updates. I do SIM racing with the Quest 3 and connect via the USB Link Cable. All the racing games that I have operate and look very good. I am still learning the Quest 3. Lastly, I am using the RTX-3080TI GFX card and works well with the Quest 3. Now no VR headset is perfect, but the Quest 3 does everything for my gaming needs. Plus it is my first wireless headset. Only thing I changed is the head strap and using the BoboVR S3 Pro which also has larger capacity battery for longer usage. I am only watching what PIMAX is doing with the Crystal Lite VR headsets and just waiting for the video reviews of what people think of them when they are released. I know PIMAX devices are harder to setup and to get to work right, so not in any hurry to move away from the Quest 3 I have now.. Thanks for the video and take care.

@VRFlightSimGuy

2 ай бұрын

Great comments thankyou for taking the time to share them!

The quest 3 + 4090/7800x3d is amazing. Dialed everything in to run 72 fps without reprojection and is such a game changer. Tried 60 fps with the g2 but the flicker made it unusable. I am so happy with the result that I am completely done considdering the higher end options. I did not expect that outcome at all.

@jrherita

4 ай бұрын

Just curious. I have same exact setup and also aimed for 72 no repro. What do you use for AA, if anything?

@K11...

4 ай бұрын

@@jrherita I have settled for TAA @ 90% render scale. I regain full sharpness by slightly lowering the vertical up/down fov setting in openxr toolkit. That setting is worth looking into if you haven't. I find DLSS: DLAA slightly better but more demanding. DLSS: quality looks too soft imo, even with the fov tweak. AA "Off" looks really good in this headset inside the cockpit and high up in the air, but the shimmering close to or on the ground is bad. What about you?

@visualdarkness

4 ай бұрын

I don't really get that kind of performance with a 4090 and 5800x3D, even at really low settings. I end up mainthread limited, hard, even at like 75 TLOD and objects as soon as I go VR. Any tips?

@K11...

4 ай бұрын

@@visualdarkness Sounds like something isn't right. What kind of typical framerates are you getting when cpu bound?

@visualdarkness

4 ай бұрын

@@K11... Around 22-30 in LA and around 40 in most non-huge cities.

Well, I do like quest3 for flight as it’s a great value. The biggest problem comes in with flight time. The battery doesn’t last long. And even if you go out and buy a strap with an external battery pack. You can’t run the link cable and battery pack at the same time. I think at this point, I’m gonna stick with my G2. And keep saving up my money for a pimax crystal.

.... and now I'm flip-flopping back to the Quest 3 as an upgrade from my current Quest 2. It's between the Q3 and the Crystal for me... oh decisions, decisions!

Couldn't agree with you more that the Quest 3 is probably THE headset for most people out there, it just is that good! I do have to Disagree about the Pancake Lenses being the best, way too much glare in high contrast scenes... I'll take my heavy, bulky Aspheric lenses over pancake everytime.... of course let's not mention Fresnel, the lens that shall not be named :) Great video as always!

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

I hear you buddy. Thanks for watching have a great week 😊

Hey, I've started MSFS with Quest 2 from the begining, no VDXR, openXRtoolkit, no DX12 DLSS, RTX 2080, playable at that time but I went finally replacing the Quest 2 to the HP Reverb G2, native WMR, better performance and image at the center, but always tethered... Then I did upgrade to RTX 3090, openxr toolkit, DLSS, software improvment, but now knowing WMR is going end of life... I think I'm going to replace the G2 with the Quest 3, I also remember when I had the Quest 2 I used to play other PC games wirelessly such as Half Life Alyx, No Man Sky, standing up playing beat sabber and other little games... With the G2 I did only Flight Simulator + DCS World, stucked on my chair with the cables... It seems with VDXR performance is better, there is also the passthrough! The Oculus mirror is stabilizing the image too, that's a great comfort for viewers. I don't want to spend over 1000Eu neither, that's why I think I'm going back to Meta

For me it is about FOV. I currently have the Index. If it cant beat the FOV or the index or at least match it. Its not for me.

How do you guys get it to look good my quest looks like shit on dcs

I have a Varjo Aero and recently upgraded my Quest from the 2 to the 3. After an upgrade to the Kiwi Designs head strap on the 3, I no longer care to even put the Varjo Aero on. The quest is more comfortable, has better lenses, a better FOV, and handles motion a lot better. Sure, the Varjo is crystal clear, but other than that it sucks.

What about QPro with DFR ?

@khaledassaf6356

4 ай бұрын

Better colors but less clarity. DFR is pretty nice in the games that you can use it with. Reading guages and MFDs is easier with the Quest 3, with Quest Pro you might need to lean in for some. Night flights, and darker scenes in general, look nicer in the Quest Pro.

I bought a Pimax and I returned it because of many reasons. I then bought the Quest 3 and I ended up returning it as well. Despite the fact that the overall sharpness is better than in the Reverb G2, I felt that the center sharpness in the Reverb was much better than the Quest 3 . For me at least, the center sharpness is much more important than the overall sharpness since everything is sharp where I look when I just turn my head.

@ChrisM541

4 ай бұрын

The centre sharpness, and it's size, is still most important aspect for HDM's....simply because that's how every HDM continues to operate. Full screen max resolution is still, damningly, a long, long away, unfortunately. With that, you are absolutely correct in prioritising the central area.

@smsheard

4 ай бұрын

I found with the quest 3 because I was used to just moving my head having come from a quest 2 that it took me some time to get used to moving my eyes, which is actually more natural. So now when I am landing a place I can see the landing stip and just use my eyes in most aircarft to see the guages I need , like airspeed, altitude and rate of climb etc. But I never have used a G2, so I dont know how good the central vision is.

@kiotee_nouw

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. The Pimax Crystal is excellent in my book. Best VR headset I've ever owned. Not sure why you would return it, but I'm sure you had your reasons.

@HeliSimDriver

4 ай бұрын

@@kiotee_nouw Nothing to do with the Crystal. I wear glasses with prisms and the eye tracking would not work with my glasses. And if I disabled eye tracking, I would still messages in the headset that it was not in the proper position and I could not get rid of the message without rebooting the headset. I loved the clarity, but it was unusable for me.

@HeliSimDriver

4 ай бұрын

@@smsheard I’m not knocking the Q3. Having a sharper central area is strictly a personal preference and I know that I am not the only one who agrees that the Reverb G2 sweet spot is sharper than the Quest 3. Different strokes for different folks 😊

Well, you convinced me to buy a Quest 3.

I’ve been on a Rift and then had a Rift S for years, flying xplane 11, it helped me train for my ppl and pass my check ride. I am looking for an upgrade though, I just want better visuals, be able to actually read the stuff in the cockpit :/ I’d be all over the Q3, it’s a no brainer for the money, but - Facebook.

Is Quest 3 going to any problems with msfs 2024. I heard that msfs was fazing out mixed reality.

Thanks Steve. I've passed on heavier, higher panel resolution headsets - due to the relatively lighter, and better value Quest 3!

Thanks Steve! you just cost me $1k AUD LOL... My G2 died the other days and been tossing up on the Quest 3... you convinced me... Yes, a Pimax or similar maybe better but at twice the price here Australia...narrrr now I hold you FULLY responsible for the upcoming result! LOL Thank Mate!

@VRFlightSimGuy

3 ай бұрын

lol nice one Brad. Please let me know how you get on!

I quite agree. I don't want to spend a fortune for a marginal increase in quality over the Q3. I tend to use it on Virtual Desktop whilst plugged into the charger with a high-power 3-metre cable; no need for the extra battery then and the charge actually increases whilst in use.

Since I got the Quest 3 I have returned my Varjo Aero and cancelled my day one BigScreen Beyond order. It really is, all that you need.

It looks like a great headset Steve, I'm upgrading my Reverb G2 to a Bigscreen, but if I was buying a headset for the first time this would be the choice. Also, thank you for being inclusive 🙂

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Deanna, I can't wait to hear your impressions of the Beyond. Best wishes.

To get the most out of a Quest 3 will cost well over 2K, including a GPU capable of supersampling to compensate for marginal native sharpness. That gets neither particularly useful passthru for mixed reality nor resolution sufficient for multiple virtual displays, leaving Q3 in the toy category. If VR1 is approximately as claimed, then more cost-effective for roughly 50% greater total cost.

Thanks Steve for your sheer honesty. I totally agree and I think ATM, this is the best upgrade from the Index (at least for me), I wanted to get Somnium V1 but tbh even though I can afford it, its too much money to justify the purchase (and would rather spend the money on upgrading my GPU which I will need anyway very soon). Besides I do more than just flight sim, and I enjoy VR games and also game dev, so it's a no brainer for me (you made this purchase easier through your previous brilliant videos). Don't even get me started with the portability and the untethered experience. As much as I hate Facebook or "Meta", I gotta give it to Mark.. this think is truly great piece of hardware and will do me till we hear from Valve or Varjo hopefully in the future :D

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy, the Quest 3 is so hard to beat. I'd definitely recommend a GPU upgrade to a 4090 over a new VR headset. Best wishes and thanks for your support.

For me, the best thing is the ability to play pcvr games without the cable. At this point I think I am willing to sacrifice image quality in exchange for not feeling that cable tugging on my head. I look forward to a quest 4 with micro oleds 😅

@VRFlightSimGuy

4 ай бұрын

I agree 100%

that constant jittering on the video. are you seeing that inside the headset?

Q3, latestest Bobo with facial interface removed, Virtual Desktop with a 4090. Perfect for me after trying so many other headsets.

@ChrisM541

4 ай бұрын

A £1700 - £2000 GPU is the last GPU I'd expect to be paired with a Quest ;)

@seattime4075

4 ай бұрын

Had the 4090 and a Pimax 8KX well before I had the Q3...Q3 in this setup, just works better for me. @@ChrisM541

i really think only the colors and brightness in vr is too oversaturated. I mostly fly with "overcast" weather preset, quest 3 on 50% brightness as msfs sunlight is WAY too bright in vr...