Great video! I have a different VR headset but I really think the Quest will bring a whole new wave of people to VR, and bring it to the next level

Very interesting my wife got one a couple days ago and she let me try it, and it’s amazing!

You mentioned vision being one of the factors in VR. I'm just on the edge of being able to use VR. I'm monocularly sighted, with 20/400, and limited vertical field of view, in the right eye, and 20/2000, and similar loss of field of view, in left eye. I'm not able to see the tiny text in many of the OQ2 apps, which limits my library a tad. Of course, this means I can't perceive depth, but at least I'm able to move my head, to look around in VR. Until now, I've been using a 46" monitor for flight sims, once they became affordable. Oh, I won't have to worry about my nieces nicking my OQ2. It's got the lock screen active. LOL Thanks for the video.

@rocketmandlgc

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Thomas, you can get prescription lense inserts for Q2 - not sure about US PRICES - about £80 UK. You need to know what your script is for a reading distance of 1.5 meters which is what the Q2 emulates

@ThomasGrillo

2 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc Yes, I've seen those slip on lens inserts. My reading distance is one, or two inches. Normally, in the 2D, real world, I use a 46" monitor, with Windows Magnifier turned on, and set nearly all the way to full magnification. In VR, I have to walk up to menus, to get within inches of them, to read them. I currently use my glasses, though I may try a prescription for "media" glasses, which actually focus on the 1.5 metre range, to match the OQ2 distance. Mind you, I am monocularly sighted (one eye), so I'm guessing the distance you speak of is the point in space where two eyes converge, and not actually the focal length. I'll have to look into that. Frankly, I'd love to find a way to shut off 3D, and just have the right eye feed active, or a copy of it on both eye pieces, since that's how I see, in the real world. Would save tons of compute power, you know. LOL

VR flight simming is amazing. The sense of "being there" just cannot be conveyed in flat screen videos. As @rocketmandlgc says, you really have to experience it to understand. Yes, it's not without limitations, but nothing comes close in terms of immersion.

I got MFS for the Series X, I wish I could use my Quest2 with it. This game must be incredible in VR

Nice one thanks

Hi there, great video. I managed to get X-Plane 11 up and running on my Mac with the Oculus Quest 2. I had to partition my drive and run bootcamp to get the Oculus up and running. I eventually got X-Plane running in VR but the quality isn't that great unfortunately. Still flyable though. I tried introducing the Orbx scenery into the mix but, again, its not cutting it. I need to invest in a decent pc setup to harness the quality you have achieved!!!!

This is a great vid, thanks for sharing! Question to you and followers here: I’m a rookie under SPL training, already flying with Condor2 and just got my VR set, the question is, should I download Condor2 in my VR? What about the landscapes, should I download them on it too? Thanks for your help.

Yeah good stuff for sure.

love your video.. can you do a how to video of hooking up OQ2 for VR with controllers

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, try this kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqmhldSxcaTMfto.html If that’s not what you mean, post back with what you want/need and I’ll try to get something out over the weekend

Have you tried VTOL VR as well it's an incredible experience and built fully for VR, i assume you have steam and PC?

@mr.simulator4724

Жыл бұрын

vtol vr is acrade game, condor is a simulator.

Great video mate! Question 4 ya: If I purchase 2 Quest devices can me & another person in same room be my “co-pilot” in flight sims? a) either be on the same plane that’s flying? b) me & a friend in the same room both choose separate gliders & fly the same route wearing these headsets?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Multiplayer demo here kzread.info/dash/bejne/qI1omKxucbLSpag.html I will do a how to video some time after Christmas. Using X-Plane and JoinFS you can hook up with friends across the globe and fly together. Not in this video but you can also (with the friends permission, jump into each other's cockpit and also take over their controls. I believe you can do the same/use JoinFS with both P3D and MSFS, although I believe MSFS has its own group flying facility built in - never tried it so don't know how good it is. You can be in the same room but would need two PC's and two copies of each program, and of course two Quests - or you could just stay at home and hook up online. In demo video I posted - Chris lives in the States and I am in the UK

are you using the control for flying, ie grabbing the controls in game or are you using a flight stick?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Controls in game apart from physical rudder pedals. See also kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIKCqa5qeqy2g6g.html for example of an in-game yoke

I have not done any flight simming on my oculus since MS2020 was released. I have been spoiled by the 'pancake' (flat screen) flight dynamics / scenery and can't go back to X-plane now. MS2020 is promising VR support before the end of the year, so here's hoping!

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

My video was made in a glider for the benefit of the fellow glider pilots. You are right about the scenery in MSFS and I will be reviewing it on day one. For glider pilots however we are going to have to wait up to 12 months for gliding to be a reality in that package. There are a number of people working on importing some legacy gliders from FSX and progress is quite good but you need to be good at tinkering to get them working which is beyond the scope of most real world (more senior) glider pilots who have no experience of modelling/tweaking/Tinkering under the hood In any event if you live in the UK it’s not a problem in X-Plane because we have the absolutely awesome ORBX True earth Great Britain scenery which is way superior to MSFS (until such time as they bring out a scenery update for the UK) much of the UK Peak district National Park where I fly is just plain wrong in MSFS. So for the foreseeable future it is X-Plane all the way

@crooker2

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc Same with 'virtual' helicopter pilots. Need to wait. I love gliders, and one of the highlights of my life was getting to fly in one (as a passenger) back in the 90's. Very peaceful.

@Glider324

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc what are you doing for thermal and ridge lift in X-plane? thanks

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Glider324 ridge lift works really well (very realistic) in XP. I co wrote some plugins (X-Winch, Towplane-X and Therm-X) which provides truly realistic launch experience. Therm-X does two things 1) injects thermals into XP’s real weather (you may have noticed the thermal sliders get disabled when you turn on real weather) 2) it also does some realistic (but overridable) thermal calculations based on your own manual weather settings. It takes into account time of day/year sun angle and a bunch of other stuff - all available for free on the org. Thermals are great now and proving Austin sticks to his promise, will be under cumulus in the next release. Fingers crossed You can read about X-Winch at virtualflight.org.uk/plugins/x-winch/

@bophoto

3 жыл бұрын

Dave you can fly VR on FS2020 - I have about 100+ hours of flying with headset since december realease :-) just dang good fun, but seriously challenging for the processor power.. BTW> they are planning gliders to be released next year.

please!!! help!!!! IS THERE ANY WAY TO SEE THE SHARP IMAGES OF THE AIRCRAFT CABIN? I SEE THEM BLURRY THE LANDSCAPE WELL BUT INSIDE THE PLANE VERY BLURRY

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, there is insufficient information to answer this. What is your cpu, gpu, ram. Which sim are you using, what aircraft are you flying, You also need the public beta channel turned on (oculus desktop) so that V27 beta downloads.

What game is that ?

i too have just got a quest 2 vr newbie for immersion aerofly2 blown away its the future of flight sims just my i56600k and gtx1070 cannot deliver enough steam plus my oculus rift link keeps dropping out plus the blurries, have i got a quest with dodgy lenses howto tell ? but yes this the deal you even get the pokey small cabin feel in a cessna 152, what sim currently gives the best experience x plane ,msfs or what

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, you may struggle with that rig with both msfs and x-plane, or rather, you would have to turn the graphics settings down so much that the vr experience would be disappointing. I hear some good reports about aerofly but haven’t tried it personally. Do you have a usb 3 c socket or using an adapter and are you using the official link cable or a cheaper alternative?

@kevinrushmere

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc yeah i realised no amount of tweaking etc will fix it planning a new build this year AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Processor blow it away and yes using a cheaper anker alternative 99 euros for a oculus 2 link c'mon the headset is value at 300 aerofly, is the best so far it does vr natively and always had insane frame rates 200 plus, just limited with the addons whereas x-plane has the lot reality xp garmins etc, as to msfs2020 i dont even go there with my rig meanwhile have found a test tool for my quest 2 knob2001.itch.io/testhmd to resolve if my quest lenses are one of the dodgy batches got mine feb 16th this year also is handy for checking out the various vr headsets out there but yes this is the future for flight sims

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinrushmere give me a shout out if you need a new rig building. I can do a good price for an all AMD x570 rig. References can be provided. My personal rig is a 3600x with a 5700xt. Struggling for stock of 6000 series GPUs at the moment

@kevinrushmere

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc yeah i noticed that the bits i want are out of stock cpu gpu etc however i will wait till the prices come off the boil its the bitcoiners that grab em all ,that and the ps5 scalpers etc

What's the screen door effect like on the quest 2?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, younger eyes with 20/20 vision might see something but honestly? I haven't seen any screen door effect yet. Since V23 update I'm fixed at 90Hz and set the rendering scale to 1.3 so I'm pushing 3920 x 1984 out to the Q2. With a better rig - maybe the new AMD zen 3 chips ets - the theoretical limit is 5408 x 2736 but at that res, X-Plane crashes. My settings are a bit of a trade off because I've got antialiasing turned up at 4xSSAA

@A5tr0101

3 жыл бұрын

There is no screen door effect on quest 2, you cannot see the space between pixels

Have you tried virtual desktop to go wireless yet .

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't work for flight simming with high def (orthophoto) scenery. The throughput on the link cable is 2.8Gb/sec

@A5tr0101

3 жыл бұрын

Flight sims are too intense for that, works well in FPS games and it works better with a Wifi 6 router in the same room as your quest.

@A5tr0101

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc Btw it can only use 150mbps at a time anyway.

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

@@A5tr0101 what can? The bit rate can be set as high as 500Mb/sec Check out the Oculus debug tool or download Oculus Tray Took and have a play my friend. And try to keep your posts up to date and factual

@kennyk4134

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc been using the link cable now for a couple of months. I get what your saying now . I think both ways have their uses .

Can you read the instruments with the quest 2?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes - gliders are great. To get a more realistic view in VR, I make a copy of all my aircraft, open the copy in Planemaker and move the pilot viewpoint forward by about 0.8. All seat position are set too far back -presumably for a bit of side view on a flat screen. But in VR you can set it in a more realistic real world position. Same goes for Cessna’s and most other GA aircraft. Commercial tin can? Not so clear

@NicolaFerruzzi

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc thank you for the reply ! Nice video and very informative; I had no idea x plane was so advanced, I love playing condor online connected to xcsoar and I’d like to try the VR .. what is in your opinion the perceived distance from ground with respect to the real one ? I really want to buy the headset .. you got me real close XD tnx

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

Guy Rossler - who did the second flying sequence in the video is a great fan of Condor 2 - give him a shout out on the x-plane gliders FB GROUP. I only fly Condor 2 when I have to. For me, height perception, circuit planning, approach and round out are perfect in x-plane. Sometimes, if I’m flying close to the side of a mountain, I do wonder whether my wingtip will clip the rocks🤫

@NicolaFerruzzi

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc wooooow beautiful, now I can't really wait to compare it with a rl circuit ! thank you again for you feedback

Do I have to buy a PC as I only have a Mac?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

At the moment yes, there are no VR headsets that work with a Mac. But don't jump just yet. The rumour mill is working overtime on the Apple VR/AR front at the moment. So keep watching and listening and above all, start saving your pennies. The Oculus Quest however is a fully stand alone headset (256Gb version) that allows you to buy and download games directly to the headset (no pc required) - just not any of the recognised flight sim packages - they are waaay too memory hungry and need a lot of processing power. I personally like playing Table Tennis in VR with some buddies, and my grandkids LOVE Epic Roller Coaster - especially the one that runs through Dinosaur land.

@BettySwollocks13

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc interesting stuff, I shall keep a look out.

I think the Quest 2 with its link cable is not suited for PC VR. It’s not made for PC VR. Compared to Oculus Rift or Rift S it has, yes, a higher resolution. But as far as I know with the link cable you cannot access its full resolution due to video compression. The PC has to compress the video signal and the processor on the Quest 2 has to decompress it. Some users complain about compression artifacts and similar things. Thus you’ll loose video quality. You can access the full resolution in wireless scenarios, without using a PC (like the Quest 2 is made for). Higher resolution, like the Quest 2 has to offer, but loosing quality/resolution due to a compressed video signal on a USB-C glas fiber connection is not a good deal. I will still stick to my Rift S for X-Plane/flight simulation. It has a „non-destructive“ regular HDMI video connection to the PC.

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

You are entitled to your opinion but my real use experience tells me otherwise. With the advent of the Version 23 update, Users are able to specify the resolution they send to the headset. I am running at 90Hx with a resolution of 4464 x 2256. At the end of the day this site is about quoting real achievable frame rates with good quality stutter free performance. Feel free to stick with your Quest, just be aware that in April it is "end of life" and software updates will likely cease. I think you are out of date with your knowledge my friend

@luftbilderhd

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Regarding the Quest 2 software updates have obviously changed and improved a view things. But for me it doesn't matter and it doesn't help, because in Germany the Quest 2 is officially not available. The Rift and Rift S however were available in Germany in the past. I bought the Rift S in the beginning of 2020 and had to wait about 5 months for delivery. I'm quite happy with my X-Plane setup with the Rift S, so I will currently not buy a Quest 2 somewhere abroad just to get a few pixels more in the lenses.

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

@@luftbilderhd I hope it becomes available for you soon in Germany. Happy flying my friend. I'm just testing A Klingsberg Wing Mk 2 for X-Plane. Watch out for my next video

@luftbilderhd

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds interesting with the Klingberg Wing Mk 2. I'll keep an eye on your next video. I took some "real-life" glider lessons about 20 years ago, but then the germany army called me and my lessons got interrupted. And I never resumed it. In X-Plane I mostly fly helicopters, controlled with the Flight Trainer Pro "Puma". Some videos are on my channel.

@A5tr0101

3 жыл бұрын

Lol what to you actually mean, it enables PC VR at a very nice resolution and refresh rate for a very cheap price? This is an opinion and not a fact.

What game is this?

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

First flight (with hand controllers visible) is X-Plane 11. Second flight is Condor 2

@jesserobert2300

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocketmandlgc thank you

How do you connect the quest to to xplane??

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

You need an oculus link cable, (keep in mind it’s USB C at both ends so you may need an adapter) then download the oculus link app on your PC. Fire up your Quest2 and message will pop up asking you if you want to enable the link. After that, First time, you’ll have to park the Q2 on your forehead while you fire up X-Plane. Dive into setting and on the extreme Right tab, tick the box “Enable VR” put the Q2 back on and you’ll find yourself in the hangar in front of the control desk. Set up your flight and click “Start Flight” then be patient. It will take as long as it normally does for the scene to appear. I’ll do a video over the weekend

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

How To video is ready at kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqmhldSxcaTMfto.html

@crooker2

3 жыл бұрын

Forget the link cable. Purchase Virtual Desktop and install side quest and do it cable free. Plenty of vids on youtube to show you how.

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

@@crooker2 Also plenty of evidence to suggest the throughput on WiFi is not good enough for flight simming - especially when using orthobphoto scenery. If you can provide evidence to the contrary I will check it out

msfs2020 works with this better than xplane and its clear THIS GIUY NOTHIHNG Absolutely NOTHING about VR, this example clearly shows how much better the Reverb G2 with its dual 4 k screen are

@rocketmandlgc

3 жыл бұрын

You do realise of course that this video was produced before VR had been released in MSFS AND Before the G2 was available. Or were you so keen to get your toxic comments out of that you completely missed that bit