QUEENZFLIP & MATH HOFFA, DISCUSS NOT PAYING THEIR EMPLOYEES & EXTORTION ATTEMPTS
Queenzflip & Math talks about recent events that transpired on the internet #pressplay
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@pcaz23 Жыл бұрын
imagine a company you work for tells you they cant pay you cuz they got bills to pay at home . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BRUH wtf?!!
@quanbrooklynkid7776
Жыл бұрын
yea
@PeterBagjuice Жыл бұрын
Imagine on payday your employer tells you "hey man I got a family" 🤣🤣 Dude has such low self-awareness that he said that publicly LOUDLY AND PROUDLY smh
@DatboyWhit
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@axman3128
Жыл бұрын
Yea he trippin, we all got a family but look out for the people around you also. If he got some good people around him still I'll watch
@PapaDuck360
Жыл бұрын
Did he agree to work pro bono or didn’t he?
@lilbronxriverzulustyleisba6565
Жыл бұрын
The crazy part about it is that this why everybody left flip for being a slow and not caring about the next person
@Krem_82
Жыл бұрын
@@PapaDuck360 Has SoaceGhost spoke about it? I haven’t heard his side of this story, can’t find anything online. Just tweets etc.
@brianwestbrook2041 Жыл бұрын
So i edit and color film - I've listend to both parties - 1. matching camera's is not easy - most editors cant do it 2. editing is super time consuming and its more than cutting footage 3. If someone works for you and they dont own part of the company - they shouldn't have to ask for their money
@bigmark7807
Жыл бұрын
Bingo 💯💪🏿 we got action I was saying and thinking the same thing
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
People are insane to think someone should work tirelessly for free. In what world does that happen ?
@Mon-zw4ui
Жыл бұрын
Hynaken said on another podcast math told him to not come back space ghost said math owed him money and he's not going to beg for it.. this is math second set of co host to leave
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@Mon-zw4ui I’m gonna have to start reading books again because TV is trash podcasts have horrible business practices and I’m sick of it all 😩😩😩
@Jamoe138ice
Жыл бұрын
That's a fact💯. I seen the d.rose show and it sounds nothing like b4.
@ReelMuzikFein Жыл бұрын
That DRose audio was absolutely horrible!
@juztjules4883
Жыл бұрын
It was
@xrpbluemarvel2566
Жыл бұрын
The man took the equipment
@RAWhonestTruth
Жыл бұрын
Yo deadass I was wondering why that interview was so trash compared to others. How you gonna get arguably your biggest guess and use that audio 😂😂😂😂
@ThatAnimeGamer
Жыл бұрын
Word I thought I was bugging. Them taking the equipment makes sense
@xrpbluemarvel2566
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatAnimeGamer your not bugging the man who took the equipment was like Math can’t buy more equipment
@TwntyUp Жыл бұрын
if there’s one guy you pay it’s the cameraman/editer
@nodaysoff2005
Жыл бұрын
He the most important guy
@faywhite7886
Жыл бұрын
Is this the second time Space got kicked to the curb after helping someone blow up?
@gtsound12
Жыл бұрын
@@faywhite7886 yep
@vic9844 Жыл бұрын
Flip bein honest but him having to spend the money on his fam ain’t a good excuse. Everybody got something to take care of. Your lifestyle is all on you. Pay what you owe folks.
@larrylove7982
Жыл бұрын
That ninja crazy......i gotta pay my family first...what bout,stop livin above ya means...pay ya bills 1st
@abuhudaifah_0
Жыл бұрын
Superfacts
@devonpeterson1769
Жыл бұрын
No he’s the one with the business ..and he did right
@khalilwilliams1818
Жыл бұрын
because he's a grimey nigga. when you run a business and I know this I have family who have one you have to pay the employees before you get paid that's how you lose workers and get a bad reputation about your business. because at the end of the day those employees have families as well your family is no more important that their , your family is only important to you. this why dj vlad you see is by himself he may have 2 other ppl interviewing he pays for the camera ppl and production .
@Kkayy020
Жыл бұрын
I think podcast money and skit money are two different things since space was filming it that’s just the money he should focus on tho
@mrwriter1021 Жыл бұрын
Feeling betrayed by dudes u weren’t giving fair compensation to is insane
@tomteey22
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ashasjoy3917
Жыл бұрын
That part
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Do you know what hes making or paying them to say what's fair? I think not
@mrwriter1021
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 flip said he didn’t pay him at all lol
@uptownviews
Жыл бұрын
@@mrwriter1021 how could he , he said he was just getting paid for skits he wasn’t paying them for skits that was Pennies
@billclinton8300 Жыл бұрын
So, if spaceghost put all that work in and never got paid and flip saying he feel bad and he didn’t have it then, does he have it now? If so, pay him!!
@pauljones364
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, how you not gone pay that man, but gone say you acquiring more and more for your family. That like saying F this nikka, I’m slaving him out. Y’all both took advantage of that brother, and turned a good guy bad.
@billclinton8300
Жыл бұрын
@@pauljones364 yeah I’m getting the strap lol they lucky space a hood nigga cause I would of got my money one way or the other and no one could blame me, short changing someone is one thing but to not pay at all!!???? Nah that’s brazen and you asking for a gun battle
@nagyyoung8129
Жыл бұрын
He said he don't want it
@Krem_82
Жыл бұрын
Spaceghost need to answer a txt or make a call if Flip & Hoffa tellin the truth which I believe they are. Anyone heard from Spaceghost? NOPE. He introverted and timid.. closed mouths never get fed
@megga0
Жыл бұрын
@@Krem_82 clown. Space already said Math wasn’t paying him. And he understood he didnt have the money when the show started. Math running around saying he lost $6000. Doesn’t make any sense. Even joe said they need to pay him.
@nasirphilly3906 Жыл бұрын
Honor the contracts Math
@phillybiz3784 Жыл бұрын
We appreciated hynaken, esso, and bigga. How do you not pay a man for their time is beyond me. Especially it being your peoples.
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Facts I couldn’t Say It Any Better than This. Then to go on this Live to say Sp8 was my guy and Flip said I had love for him and not know his real name wtf
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
They see more dollar signs than they ever have and get greedy 🤦🏾♀️
@anthonymiller8107
Жыл бұрын
Esso said they was paid but I guess they think they was underpaid. But in math defense there are a bunch of co hosts and only esso and hynaken the ones that be engaging
@biggeneral1979
Жыл бұрын
Nobody knew them Math was doing good before them Bigga still there Math put them in position to make there own bread it’s always been Math show there not entitled to anything and I believe Math paid them and tried too they probably wanted more but Math is still on the come up and he can’t feed everyone there supposed to have there own income there grown men who supposedly been in the industry making money
@SupaNatural28
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonymiller8107 ESSO said Math owe him and hynaken $$$ for 2 shows.
@johnniemurphy9972 Жыл бұрын
In what world are people supposed to work for free? Math keeps saying people are pocket watching, but if someone is contributing as much as Sp8 was to your show and they see you bringing in money from something they have helped you build, they are going to pay attention. That’s not pocket watching, that’s business. Sp8 was filming the whole show, and editing all the footage. That’s a lot of work for one person. It takes hours on top of hours to edit, sometimes days. He was producing your whole show. He deserves a nice cut. That Derrick Rose interview proves how vital production is. The quality is very poor compared to what we were getting before. Sp8 holding out on the equipment is just business. He has not been fully compensated for the work he has put in. I hear you talking about a contract, but contracts work both ways. Math has to hold up his end too. People like to talk like they’re a boss, but it costs to be a boss. Part of that cost is paying people. I agree that Sp8 could have communicated better. But I’m not buying this victim role y’all are trying to sell.
@bighuss83
Жыл бұрын
Right both of them are delusional
@ChunkNorristv
Жыл бұрын
Buggin Derrick rose jawn fire I need to see da rest of that pronto!!
@hardart-
Жыл бұрын
Facts..was Sp8 the 1 doin the VR wit the camera? I prefer the regular view but it was still super dope. I gotta watch the full D Rose episode when it drops cuz I'm from South Side of Chicago but I'm unsubscribed til further notice
@flygenyus2186
Жыл бұрын
@@ChunkNorristv the audio makes it hard to enjoy bro I’m not gone lie
@PheeblePhilosopher
Жыл бұрын
Communication is business! Smh, Sp8ce didn't communicate that he wanted a bigger portion & overworked, instead he ghosted like a jitted female. He should have been able to negotiate a new contract that gives him more of a profit-share and/or perhaps employees under his supervision to further the production value. SIMPLE.
@VerbalKint07203 Жыл бұрын
Flip like “This 3 story condo in NEW YORK is a part of my overhead!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@broadwaybiz211
Жыл бұрын
Damn lol 😆
@CHILDSANONYMOUS
Жыл бұрын
he never said he owned it ... for all we know he might be renting it dont just assume
@bbnyc3753
Жыл бұрын
Flip is a stingy clown.. I think math is more organic
@biggeneral1979
Жыл бұрын
@@bbnyc3753 How? You sound dumb Flip has helped out more people than you have and that’s facts
@teemack6965
Жыл бұрын
For flip the house
@kaliduncanel3356 Жыл бұрын
Every podcast I love gets destroyed this way
@hawafiia
Жыл бұрын
Black men don’t understand business and are filled with self hate. A bad combo every time.
@kevinsatt6932
Жыл бұрын
Money will do it every time
@thenowwhatshow4142
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinsatt6932 nah it’s nigga shit
@truestory__ Жыл бұрын
Based off learning both sides of the story . So far it’s looking like math you gonna end up paying .
@brianwestbrook2041 Жыл бұрын
RED FLAG #1 - when a black person says "God told me" or "I'm going to leave it in God's hands" but they dont mention God in them contracts - something wrong
@takeover5449 Жыл бұрын
Math the type of homie he keeps friends that lower than him on purpose but never wants to excel and everything is good he’ll give them alittle money but they gotta know there place
@PeopleLikeUsMedia Жыл бұрын
Most important part of being The Boss is SACRIFICE!! Being a real boss means everyone else eats first and you eat LAST!! You may end up eating the biggest portion in the end but your team gotta get theirs off top… and sometimes being the boss means you dont get to eat at all but thats a penalty of leadership & choosing to be responsible for other’s livelihood.
@TennisinaMinute
Жыл бұрын
Exactly as a business owner your business might be in the red for 3/4 of the year …but that don’t mean you don’t pay your employees, they get paid weekly and everytime they show up, blk business doesn’t work out only because we aren’t good businessmen but we can be and do better
@macbtheshooter6065
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Pimps eat first and don’t understand why you won’t keep working for free
@thug2244 Жыл бұрын
This is just something that I use to notice (Math would cut Esso off in the middle of his questions to the guest) - or change the subject soon as Esso ask a question - anybody else noticed that?
@viceversa95 Жыл бұрын
How you not pay your employees? That’s ho shit!
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Just like the other Podcasts, starts off great good chemistry then they taking off it’s a Hit. Then the brake up because it’s always looks like it’s all agreed upon by fist 🤜 bumps instead of written contracts
@jameshenry5994 Жыл бұрын
The tony yayo interview did it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@seanwordsmith5908
Жыл бұрын
100
@slimjim8227tt
Жыл бұрын
I said the same
@youngguypat
Жыл бұрын
Y’all didn’t see it before that? Why you say the Yayo interview?
@thetony8959
Жыл бұрын
Why u say the Yayo interview?
@JoshManagement
Жыл бұрын
Why bro
@mysouthernopinion1852 Жыл бұрын
Salute to both of yall
@Ricflexer Жыл бұрын
U”had” 6,000 in a wallet to pay him and lost it? BIG CAP 🧢
@jhova187
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 homie really played the producer
@kingkoopa2334
Жыл бұрын
Lol he looked like he was lying fr
@KatoOnTheTrack1 Жыл бұрын
If you’re not paying the camera man that’s bad business period.
@Mon-zw4ui Жыл бұрын
Math got rid of Ms fit and knowledge and now esso and hynaken this is a bad look for him
@MysteryKmt
Жыл бұрын
He lost hollow and Cortez before that. Loyalty is often one sided.
@goatsquadtv8786
Жыл бұрын
Actually fit left cause knowledge got kicked off the show for doing sucka shit lol and Esso and Hynaken were wild useless show will be much ounce it's settles ..I like Bigga and Mecca
@brianwestbrook2041 Жыл бұрын
FACT #1 labor is a part of overhead - people are more important than how good your SET looks
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Business 101 but they don’t know that though
@Bleek17Six
Жыл бұрын
1000%
@dpep6687
Жыл бұрын
THE PRODUCER WAS HELPING TO PAY THE RENT FOR QUEENS FLIP.
@JKnight3975 Жыл бұрын
They said he said he didn’t need no money because he had a job. Know matter what you should pay someone for their work.
@lexxframe
Жыл бұрын
So if math is saying COME GET YOUR MONEY and the person don’t what do you expect math to do? I’ll wait…
@brianwestbrook2041
Жыл бұрын
that's not how business works - COME GET YOUR MONEY - is not something your job tells you on Friday - COME GET YOUR MONEY - sounds like he wasnt being paid for a long time - you was using his labor to leverage yourself into a situation - then you decided not that you have an offer - you want to pay so you dont have to go to court over the footage - cuz im sure SP8 Ghost has the master footage since he was the editor
@mississippibilly_
Жыл бұрын
I was doing my homies logo for free..he said naw I'm going to pay you like a customer..RNS
@mississippibilly_
Жыл бұрын
@@lexxframe that's a long time to wait for payment..considering he's is the room everytime they record
@lexxframe
Жыл бұрын
@@mississippibilly_ yeah but he did the same thing with flip.. it’s a habit at this point.
@naasr Жыл бұрын
This The First time Somebody Admitted to not paying a person that put hours in. And turn around and say what do I have to do with this. Flip acting like he didn't have a family that's crazy
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Hours and years 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@ILLiteSociety
Жыл бұрын
Bro…that’s how it goes when you’re an entrepreneur. You think it’s immediate? Space knew. You think flip making a killing off this shit yet? Hell no! If you believe in your man, you stick it out and keep a 9 to 5 until shit pops. You don’t not honor your word, or avoid confrontation then pull a bitch move. THAT is crazy.
@jerseynigga7322
Жыл бұрын
@@ILLiteSociety Facts
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@ILLiteSociety I like Flip but who’s gonna work for 3 years for free? And Flip said his skit money went to his family which is understandable but again who works for free ?
@b-lo3145
Жыл бұрын
How You Call Someone Employee’s Without Paying Them ? These Dudes Is Crazy
@26Cortez Жыл бұрын
So basically both of these guys didn't pay their workers smh
@autumn_b905 Жыл бұрын
I really hate that this happened because the chemistry amongst you all is unmatched. I hope you all work it out. Esso and the older wise guy are my favs. Esso is animated and funny at times. He is an important element to the show
@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851
Жыл бұрын
Esso was a major loss, especially with the Queens talk.
@greglouch
Жыл бұрын
He should've dropped Corny ass Mr. Know-it-All Mecca instead dropping Esso and Heineken. Dude be sitting there like a stuck up broad. He's the prime example of why other rappers from other regions are not respected from NY rappers.
@autumn_b905
Жыл бұрын
@@greglouch the fact that I don't even remember who Mecca is proves your point 🤣
@greglouch
Жыл бұрын
@@autumn_b905 lol Mecca is the Corny dude that sits right next to Math with the Glasses & dreds in his head.
@weblazehiphop_ Жыл бұрын
Opening conversation is hilarious 😂😂😂
@fredthetruth3701 Жыл бұрын
You have to pay a man for their services..
@idk4778
Жыл бұрын
And who told you that they didn’t get paid
@Freshbreadtv
Жыл бұрын
Y’all sound like y’all full of shit pay that Man for his services
@vi1677
Жыл бұрын
@@idk4778 They said it out they own mouth that they didn't get payed for two shows.
@idk4778
Жыл бұрын
@@vi1677 so you don’t get paid for 2 shows and u come to someone show talking cray, did Math Hoffa agreed with them because they can say whatever they want and first thing you do is calling math Hoffa e solve it like a man better than coming to KZread clout chasing
@jcc3333
Жыл бұрын
But he lost a wallet with 6k 💀💀💀💀
@ExtremEnt416 Жыл бұрын
I been waitin for this link up once again...my two favorites ....yall gotta do a episode link up again. Long overdue
@chisimpson3376 Жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but I knew one day this would happen. When I first started watching the podcast I always wondered how was math going to spilt the bad amongst everyone when he has at least 7 co host and how everyone would get their proper compensation. Wayyy too many cohost but it’s an amazing show
@pennywise1003
Жыл бұрын
That’s the problem I don’t wanna hear seven people we wanna hear math and maybe one more person but too many people in there
@edieselentertainment
Жыл бұрын
It's his show, he can have co hosts but there's one Math. Play your position generate your clout then branch out.
@DaReal1000Gramz
Жыл бұрын
KZread needs to stop paying these channels go look for a job niggas fighting over a welfare check
@benhillSWATS
Жыл бұрын
@@edieselentertainment 🎯
@dreadnaughttactical
Жыл бұрын
Too many chefs in the kitchen spoil the meal.. and too many hands in the pot leaves you still feeling hungry. Misfit was the very first co-host on Hoffa's podcast.. and he slowly fazed her out for these other opinionated niccas.. and I bet she never seen a single dime. Math Hoffa aint NEVER been loyal to NOBODY.. just ask Hollow da Don
@b-lo3145 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Spaceghost Is Very Important? To Me One Of The Best Parts Of Maths Shows Was It’s High Quality Production , Especially Early On
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Editors are a dumb a dozen.
@b-lo3145
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 , If You Know The Business Then You Know More Then Me Homie! That’s Why I Typed “Maybe” 💯
@kaladavis4834 Жыл бұрын
Flip if you want your name clear of the past. Then pay what you owe. Come to an agreement and pay that man.
@kingtony2166 Жыл бұрын
Great 👍🏽 show
@blazenemlgment Жыл бұрын
Makes sense why the DRose interview looked and sounded so different.
@dariusjones7006 Жыл бұрын
Oooohh so this is why the sound is so messed up on the drose episode
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Sound on that D Rose is Horrible I can’t watch it
@aightmanchannel Жыл бұрын
The sigh language had me rollin 😂
@nasirphilly3906 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is not worried about your families, what about their families??????
@mariochaniel6575
Жыл бұрын
That's dumb because he's the bag Gillie and them just got a multi million dollar deal now if he get the money that's it math still has branded him self to make millions dumb move..
@nasirphilly3906
Жыл бұрын
My opinion
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point. Flip wasn't making any profit on the pods of which boy knew from the beginning. If he wanted to get paid he could've left any time
@nasirphilly3906
Жыл бұрын
Understandable but was there know extra bread around? Thanks for the input.
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@nasirphilly3906 it doesn't seem so. Flip said ghost wanted to be paid from flipz skits. That wouldn't make sense. You can't agree to work for free than get mad you aint get paid. Aint like they had a contract stating he would get x amount and didn't
@youngogee7446 Жыл бұрын
I rocks with math heavy 😎 but I have a deep feeling that he not telling the truth . alot of brothers do shit like that when they feel they are the face of things.
@dictionary9150
Жыл бұрын
brandon marshall , joe budden, now math hoffa and every r&b group with a lead singer same recipe every time
@youngogee7446
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@PeterBagjuice
Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head young OG, our people when they get in these positions feel like folks should just be glad to be there and take whatever they're "given" when they feel like "giving".
@555crooked
Жыл бұрын
But this dude SG held his video for 100k to get paid. Math does have a point
@74martymcfly
Жыл бұрын
Look back at the Ceasar episode him an hynaken have a convo about him starting his own show that's an alley oop right there. Plus esso an hynaken have a show that get 600- 1k views they wasn't getting network offers with that.
@constancep1730 Жыл бұрын
Right or wrong, I'm glad we got to hear their point of views. I loved those New York accents. :)
@enzigenes Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when money comes into play. It was only a matter of time.
@osov1c1ous Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im laughing off the title alone!!
@graymaybe8587 Жыл бұрын
You can tell Math was gonna act this way when the bag came lmao
@blackmagic7743
Жыл бұрын
🤣funny but true
@khalilwilliams1818
Жыл бұрын
LOM lol
@dictionary9150
Жыл бұрын
they complain about how record labels pimp artist when it comes to money but they mimic the same behavior also by exploiting their employees by not paying them.
@blackmagic7743
Жыл бұрын
@@khalilwilliams1818 loyalty over money
@nicksheen2730
Жыл бұрын
Lol in whaat way?
@Duncan20 Жыл бұрын
Math lost a wallet with 6K. No ID’s no credit cards no bank cards nothing ok bruh 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢.
@tomteey22
Жыл бұрын
Lol he could have transferred the money to his bank account.
@joelittorres
Жыл бұрын
What a DIZASTER 🤦♂️
@ez-duz-it Жыл бұрын
By far my favorite podcast but GODDAMN I was hoping everyone would stick together and grow and build until a network came in, sponsored them, so that EVERYONE can get a consistent, steady check, but damn, the reality is, it’s hard to break bread with that many people on the panel, and everyone feels like they deserve a certain amount, which may not always be possible. Oh well, hope they continue to put out great content, I don’t know if the original audio guy left cause the sound quality on the D Rose interview makes it hard to listen to, but I’ll still support the show no matter what. Salute Math!
@orlandomolina940
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a lot people on the panel. If i owned a network, I wouldn't wanna pay all them either. The main one I would want is HOFFA and if he chooses to break them guys off then that's his decision but I'm only paying for HOFFA. Nothing against the rest of the fellas
@nailbopbyashlee
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why it sounded like that
@ez-duz-it
Жыл бұрын
@@nailbopbyashlee exactly I think his camera man took his mics as well
@alakazam25yearsago8
Жыл бұрын
@@ez-duz-it he said the guy spaceghost (cameraman) took mics camera etc and tried to extort him for 100k to get them back
@hardart-
Жыл бұрын
@@orlandomolina940 it's a lot that goes into production fam. Way more than 1 man putn in work. Those guys not only ask questions but give Math questions to ask guest. Technically, that's called being a writer. Writers get paid fam. Cameramen & Editors get paid.
@rhondam4369 Жыл бұрын
damn....such a shame...Bimmy was just on a Math Hoffa episode mentioning he hopes the show and team keep it together.....I love the show hopefully all will work out for the best
@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851
Жыл бұрын
Saw that and repeated that in the comments lmao smh
@Jordan23718 Жыл бұрын
These fools had me crying with that sign language battle
@darkcocoakiss
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@alakazam25yearsago8
Жыл бұрын
@@darkcocoakiss what ya toes smellin like tho girl
@k7ngbzze Жыл бұрын
The fellas said u disrespected them and told them they weren't needed so why is Math acting like he has no idea why any of this is happening. It's fucked up cuz they had a great thing going.
@goatsquadtv8786
Жыл бұрын
They could be fronting which is most likely,I wouldn't trust Hynaken,Esso and Space..
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@goatsquadtv8786 so they’re ALL lying and math is telling the truth 🧐🧐🧐
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@shantamonique possibly. Bagfeul isnt doing much numbers under 10k average leaving from a show that does millions. This won't be the first time someone has fabricated a Storyline to sell their next venture. Plus lip service means zero. If they have reciepts it can be proven but without that its 🧢
@jayburnham3994
Жыл бұрын
When you dont bring any external value of your own then you are expendable to some extent. Fans just get use to they know but will adjust to whats new if they come to enjoy it.
@74martymcfly
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 some of them joints got 600 views
@paulaubin4889 Жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the day and at the end of the day it all comes down to proactive communication. Everything sounds like reactive communication across the board
@jhova187 Жыл бұрын
Math Hoffa switches up his roster more than the Knicks. That should tell you everything about this situation. Math is likeable but it gets tricky when you have to cut the checks and you’ve never cut checks.
@kaysha Жыл бұрын
Money is always the culprit. Hope every one gets it together
@srgbandino Жыл бұрын
The silent communication was funny af 😂
@bigopp9415 Жыл бұрын
The beginning of this live is legendary they could meme this 😂
@MugzReaper666
Жыл бұрын
Factz shit had me krying
@hakeem215 Жыл бұрын
Look what Yayo did 🤦🏽♂️😂
@life-dq1cq Жыл бұрын
Don’t let nobody mess with your magnetic energy no one wants to see change growth an development as a man an your showing an proving in real time thank you
@lazaroriveron8814 Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy bro how things goin
@b-lo3145 Жыл бұрын
When You See Selfish, Proud Successful Dudes You Know Their Success Isn’t God Brought
@jermainedoyley5053 Жыл бұрын
This is why communication and clarity is key when it comes to business. Dapping it up and coining you my dog when comes to business will always always come to this. Our culture/people needs to do better COMMUNICATION IS KEY 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾
@AJ22840 Жыл бұрын
Damn man this is one of my favorite shows. I hope it’s not coming to an end. I hope these brothers can work it out if possible. We already experienced the breakup of Joe with Rory and Mal. I was really happy with Hoffa show.
@qc9178
Жыл бұрын
Show ain’t going anywhere just the self entitled weirdos are out the picture!
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Show is still going but the audio and visual is 🚮🚮🚮
@AJ22840
Жыл бұрын
@@qc9178 I just got through the video. I’m glad it’s still continuing. I didn’t noticed that a few of those guys were already gone.
@qc9178
Жыл бұрын
@@AJ22840 yep, just a part of the journey.. salute!
@badnewzscubasteve Жыл бұрын
20:44 oohhhh so THATS why the Derrick Rose interview is like that... damnnnn
@yung_dice203 Жыл бұрын
Sp8 was very respectful .
@kgreene9638 Жыл бұрын
This is so sad.. but weird how it became about Sp8 when Math kicked everybody off the show and told him he didn't need them 🤔🤷🏾♀️
@ravecomedical9647
Жыл бұрын
Yo what happened ? Did Esso , Heineken, and Space leave the show ?
@dariusanderson9186 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad both of y’all Ninjas are together, because both of y’all Ninjas are CLOWN AS# Ninjas. On GOD!!!
@Oddsfavorhouse Жыл бұрын
filp content is dope am a fan .math Hoff congrats on your mature self awaking each day in God is a blessing wish many more
@paultaylor3841 Жыл бұрын
Just Pay People! Be fair! Is it they hard for US to do with each other? Damnnnnnn!
@coughdrop435 Жыл бұрын
First 2 minutes is hilarious 😂😂
@megaminor226 Жыл бұрын
Hoffa you a humble brother. Let God take the wheel. You see false people in you vision clear. You just so humble and refuse to show ignorance. You got my respect Hoffa 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@confidentialp6292 Жыл бұрын
Esso and Heineken brought a certain energy to the show that can’t be duplicated
@him4440
Жыл бұрын
eh
@barboah7317
Жыл бұрын
Same thing I thought about Joe budden podcast wit mal and da other dude but shit he good now trust and beleive math will b good 👍...
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Esso was good but hynaken was trash
@mikejones-mo8xh
Жыл бұрын
@@barboah7317 I stopped watching when they left. And I was watching their show a while and im not feeling there's either they should of stayed together. If I had to choose 1 it would be Joe's but I'm good on both
@justinadams-turner5238
Жыл бұрын
@@barboah7317 you hit it on head. You will see if folks elevate based off what they think they brought to the show. Mal and Rory got a deal based off their fan base so I’m interested to see what the guys who left do
@MyNewYorkCity. Жыл бұрын
Success changes people around you,facts
@fredthetruth3701
Жыл бұрын
It changes the people around you as well as yourself.
@rodneywonder91
Жыл бұрын
I mean yea it does change the people around you..Especially if you are not paying the people around you that contributed to your success…
@zulu2523
Жыл бұрын
That’s a lie, it makes you show your true colors
@Romello843 Жыл бұрын
I got introduced to both of these guys thru battle rap and I’m proud to see the success but the same way all the battlers felt about Smack underpaying them they should’ve been on top of the business period!! You have to pay the ppl that’s keeping the ball rolling no excuses!
@SB1Films Жыл бұрын
This talk explains a lot!! I been through it 💯 this touched a soothing nerve!!
@bksfinest9582 Жыл бұрын
Somebody lying… I just know the chemistry was dope wit Esso and hynaken on so MEO def gonna hit different now
@ayalewdessieabebe
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who's lying
@bksfinest9582
Жыл бұрын
@@ayalewdessieabebe I’m a say math is. So many ppl have came and gone off that show
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@bksfinest9582 sooo. The cast was never locked in. It was always an emsemble and wasn't consistent in the earlier days
@angermanagementtv3335 Жыл бұрын
Math closing arguments sounded like he really got his grown man on🤔 ✌🏿 and success 🙌🏾
@orlandomolina940 Жыл бұрын
Of course the guys who have been on HOFFA show are gonna want to be compensated in some way. I always wondered when HOFFA got the bag, how were the guys gonna feel or feel what they thought they should get if they should get anything
@orlandomolina940
Жыл бұрын
There should always be paperwork when going into any startup business. Friends or not. Just to eliminate conversations like this
@corporatemaq
Жыл бұрын
They each also have their own show
@TheSdotFiles Жыл бұрын
“Success has a very awkward affect on not only you, but the people around you.” - Math That’s fact. I watched the SP8, Esso and Hyn interview and something smelled off about their narrative. I personally like Esso, but noticed Hyn was in his feeling on that Yayo episode. SP8 using tactics that bring severe repercussions.
@earlstevens4410 Жыл бұрын
I was in business wit a dude like space, and wen he left & nevr answered the ph again. Ppl said look at it as a blessing
@nasirphilly3906 Жыл бұрын
Bosses should act like Bosses. Y'all brothers are lame like the rest.. Respectfully 💯
@nasirphilly3906 Жыл бұрын
Some black men are hard to deal with. It's all me, me, me,me me...... You fellas aren't different from the other's......
@MrBwizzle54 Жыл бұрын
Just watched the interrogation with y’all two & now seeing full circle & even Jen at Hoff crib 🤣 mannnn
@kingofkai5623 Жыл бұрын
The non verbal communication at the beginning 😂😂😂
@louiiviable
Жыл бұрын
I read it all lmao funny asl 😂
@lowie1974 Жыл бұрын
I pray that them Brothers work their differences out🙏🏿✊🏿💪🏿
@AAAA-nv5cf Жыл бұрын
Same thing happened with Million Dollaz Worth of Game and The Joe Budden Podcast
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Not the same at all. MWOFG were actually proven to have done bad business. Joe and math not so much
@Underground-Legend Жыл бұрын
Fix the squad fam. That D Rose episode look crazy
@SGOCK Жыл бұрын
Queenz flip being on the show will be fire !!!
@Winns4life Жыл бұрын
Shout out to math he really grew up the old math would have spazz out I’m proud of you king keep up the good work king 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@edieselentertainment
Жыл бұрын
When one has a thriving business with new opportunities, one tends to think and use logic.
@clowd9yne Жыл бұрын
Thought flip was jojocapone at first.. but lowkey flip happy as fuck MEO lost a few members,, especially sp8ghost
@Graceology101 Жыл бұрын
This Is Sad,I truly love these guys ..
@kalikush6286 Жыл бұрын
I like the separations in the podcast world .
@him4440 Жыл бұрын
nigga said he got the whip on consignment 😂😂😂😂😂
@jaxxonryder8326 Жыл бұрын
As a fan watching and just off the surface , the narrative he put out makes the casual fan believe math did some grimey shit but after seeing this conversation shit makes sense & math ain’t the bad guy .. grown men should be able to talk before running to the internet & creating narratives & tryna extort people.
@FNBRENT Жыл бұрын
THING IS YOU GOTTT IT LIKE THAT NOW FLIPPP PAYYY THA MANNNN FACTSSSS
@YoungShowgunn Жыл бұрын
First two minutes funny as hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BigRod-kr5kg Жыл бұрын
Communication is key!!
@RawDog82 Жыл бұрын
Flip @8:45, you're my man but you were wrong... your lifestyle has nothing to do with what you agreed to pay someone. if you agreed, then stick to your word. downgrade your lifestyle if you must. it ain't about what you did in the past or your personality. your word is your word and only you can break that. love
@dablakbradpitt Жыл бұрын
I lost a wallet with $6k in it waiting for him Yeah math you all 🧢 Pay them
@xkonfy1 Жыл бұрын
You don't know what people are capable of until they do something. You still gotta give people the benefit of the doubt.
@bandgang7649 Жыл бұрын
The beginning is hilarious
@wppdendoor1948 Жыл бұрын
Hold up, Math went on Queenzflip interrogation room to interrogate Queenzflip after the Jihadi fight and met Sp8 Ghost. Next thing, they started working together without Flip's knowledge or blessing. Editing is no simple task. You got to piece language and pictures together. Just like how a battle rapper uses body, cadence and lyrics to paint pictures
@TimPace3
Жыл бұрын
Flip did know cuz he said in the beginning he gave math his number to use his services
@zay1521
Жыл бұрын
Flip gave the blessing u hear flip say he lined them up..ghost just never told flip
@wppdendoor1948
Жыл бұрын
@@TimPace3 ok, i could be wrong but, during the lockdown- flip and math had an i.g live. Flip appeared shocked at how sp8 and math linked up- was revealed that Jenna put them together. Don't quote e lol i could be wrong as to the source of information
@wppdendoor1948
Жыл бұрын
@Mickey St James naa, Flip put Math and Jenna on the phone together during one of his shows. Jenna had revealed to Flip that she liked him during prior convo
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imagine a company you work for tells you they cant pay you cuz they got bills to pay at home . 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BRUH wtf?!!
@quanbrooklynkid7776
Жыл бұрын
yea
Imagine on payday your employer tells you "hey man I got a family" 🤣🤣 Dude has such low self-awareness that he said that publicly LOUDLY AND PROUDLY smh
@DatboyWhit
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@axman3128
Жыл бұрын
Yea he trippin, we all got a family but look out for the people around you also. If he got some good people around him still I'll watch
@PapaDuck360
Жыл бұрын
Did he agree to work pro bono or didn’t he?
@lilbronxriverzulustyleisba6565
Жыл бұрын
The crazy part about it is that this why everybody left flip for being a slow and not caring about the next person
@Krem_82
Жыл бұрын
@@PapaDuck360 Has SoaceGhost spoke about it? I haven’t heard his side of this story, can’t find anything online. Just tweets etc.
So i edit and color film - I've listend to both parties - 1. matching camera's is not easy - most editors cant do it 2. editing is super time consuming and its more than cutting footage 3. If someone works for you and they dont own part of the company - they shouldn't have to ask for their money
@bigmark7807
Жыл бұрын
Bingo 💯💪🏿 we got action I was saying and thinking the same thing
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
People are insane to think someone should work tirelessly for free. In what world does that happen ?
@Mon-zw4ui
Жыл бұрын
Hynaken said on another podcast math told him to not come back space ghost said math owed him money and he's not going to beg for it.. this is math second set of co host to leave
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@Mon-zw4ui I’m gonna have to start reading books again because TV is trash podcasts have horrible business practices and I’m sick of it all 😩😩😩
@Jamoe138ice
Жыл бұрын
That's a fact💯. I seen the d.rose show and it sounds nothing like b4.
That DRose audio was absolutely horrible!
@juztjules4883
Жыл бұрын
It was
@xrpbluemarvel2566
Жыл бұрын
The man took the equipment
@RAWhonestTruth
Жыл бұрын
Yo deadass I was wondering why that interview was so trash compared to others. How you gonna get arguably your biggest guess and use that audio 😂😂😂😂
@ThatAnimeGamer
Жыл бұрын
Word I thought I was bugging. Them taking the equipment makes sense
@xrpbluemarvel2566
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatAnimeGamer your not bugging the man who took the equipment was like Math can’t buy more equipment
if there’s one guy you pay it’s the cameraman/editer
@nodaysoff2005
Жыл бұрын
He the most important guy
@faywhite7886
Жыл бұрын
Is this the second time Space got kicked to the curb after helping someone blow up?
@gtsound12
Жыл бұрын
@@faywhite7886 yep
Flip bein honest but him having to spend the money on his fam ain’t a good excuse. Everybody got something to take care of. Your lifestyle is all on you. Pay what you owe folks.
@larrylove7982
Жыл бұрын
That ninja crazy......i gotta pay my family first...what bout,stop livin above ya means...pay ya bills 1st
@abuhudaifah_0
Жыл бұрын
Superfacts
@devonpeterson1769
Жыл бұрын
No he’s the one with the business ..and he did right
@khalilwilliams1818
Жыл бұрын
because he's a grimey nigga. when you run a business and I know this I have family who have one you have to pay the employees before you get paid that's how you lose workers and get a bad reputation about your business. because at the end of the day those employees have families as well your family is no more important that their , your family is only important to you. this why dj vlad you see is by himself he may have 2 other ppl interviewing he pays for the camera ppl and production .
@Kkayy020
Жыл бұрын
I think podcast money and skit money are two different things since space was filming it that’s just the money he should focus on tho
Feeling betrayed by dudes u weren’t giving fair compensation to is insane
@tomteey22
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ashasjoy3917
Жыл бұрын
That part
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Do you know what hes making or paying them to say what's fair? I think not
@mrwriter1021
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 flip said he didn’t pay him at all lol
@uptownviews
Жыл бұрын
@@mrwriter1021 how could he , he said he was just getting paid for skits he wasn’t paying them for skits that was Pennies
So, if spaceghost put all that work in and never got paid and flip saying he feel bad and he didn’t have it then, does he have it now? If so, pay him!!
@pauljones364
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, how you not gone pay that man, but gone say you acquiring more and more for your family. That like saying F this nikka, I’m slaving him out. Y’all both took advantage of that brother, and turned a good guy bad.
@billclinton8300
Жыл бұрын
@@pauljones364 yeah I’m getting the strap lol they lucky space a hood nigga cause I would of got my money one way or the other and no one could blame me, short changing someone is one thing but to not pay at all!!???? Nah that’s brazen and you asking for a gun battle
@nagyyoung8129
Жыл бұрын
He said he don't want it
@Krem_82
Жыл бұрын
Spaceghost need to answer a txt or make a call if Flip & Hoffa tellin the truth which I believe they are. Anyone heard from Spaceghost? NOPE. He introverted and timid.. closed mouths never get fed
@megga0
Жыл бұрын
@@Krem_82 clown. Space already said Math wasn’t paying him. And he understood he didnt have the money when the show started. Math running around saying he lost $6000. Doesn’t make any sense. Even joe said they need to pay him.
Honor the contracts Math
We appreciated hynaken, esso, and bigga. How do you not pay a man for their time is beyond me. Especially it being your peoples.
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Facts I couldn’t Say It Any Better than This. Then to go on this Live to say Sp8 was my guy and Flip said I had love for him and not know his real name wtf
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
They see more dollar signs than they ever have and get greedy 🤦🏾♀️
@anthonymiller8107
Жыл бұрын
Esso said they was paid but I guess they think they was underpaid. But in math defense there are a bunch of co hosts and only esso and hynaken the ones that be engaging
@biggeneral1979
Жыл бұрын
Nobody knew them Math was doing good before them Bigga still there Math put them in position to make there own bread it’s always been Math show there not entitled to anything and I believe Math paid them and tried too they probably wanted more but Math is still on the come up and he can’t feed everyone there supposed to have there own income there grown men who supposedly been in the industry making money
@SupaNatural28
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonymiller8107 ESSO said Math owe him and hynaken $$$ for 2 shows.
In what world are people supposed to work for free? Math keeps saying people are pocket watching, but if someone is contributing as much as Sp8 was to your show and they see you bringing in money from something they have helped you build, they are going to pay attention. That’s not pocket watching, that’s business. Sp8 was filming the whole show, and editing all the footage. That’s a lot of work for one person. It takes hours on top of hours to edit, sometimes days. He was producing your whole show. He deserves a nice cut. That Derrick Rose interview proves how vital production is. The quality is very poor compared to what we were getting before. Sp8 holding out on the equipment is just business. He has not been fully compensated for the work he has put in. I hear you talking about a contract, but contracts work both ways. Math has to hold up his end too. People like to talk like they’re a boss, but it costs to be a boss. Part of that cost is paying people. I agree that Sp8 could have communicated better. But I’m not buying this victim role y’all are trying to sell.
@bighuss83
Жыл бұрын
Right both of them are delusional
@ChunkNorristv
Жыл бұрын
Buggin Derrick rose jawn fire I need to see da rest of that pronto!!
@hardart-
Жыл бұрын
Facts..was Sp8 the 1 doin the VR wit the camera? I prefer the regular view but it was still super dope. I gotta watch the full D Rose episode when it drops cuz I'm from South Side of Chicago but I'm unsubscribed til further notice
@flygenyus2186
Жыл бұрын
@@ChunkNorristv the audio makes it hard to enjoy bro I’m not gone lie
@PheeblePhilosopher
Жыл бұрын
Communication is business! Smh, Sp8ce didn't communicate that he wanted a bigger portion & overworked, instead he ghosted like a jitted female. He should have been able to negotiate a new contract that gives him more of a profit-share and/or perhaps employees under his supervision to further the production value. SIMPLE.
Flip like “This 3 story condo in NEW YORK is a part of my overhead!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@broadwaybiz211
Жыл бұрын
Damn lol 😆
@CHILDSANONYMOUS
Жыл бұрын
he never said he owned it ... for all we know he might be renting it dont just assume
@bbnyc3753
Жыл бұрын
Flip is a stingy clown.. I think math is more organic
@biggeneral1979
Жыл бұрын
@@bbnyc3753 How? You sound dumb Flip has helped out more people than you have and that’s facts
@teemack6965
Жыл бұрын
For flip the house
Every podcast I love gets destroyed this way
@hawafiia
Жыл бұрын
Black men don’t understand business and are filled with self hate. A bad combo every time.
@kevinsatt6932
Жыл бұрын
Money will do it every time
@thenowwhatshow4142
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinsatt6932 nah it’s nigga shit
Based off learning both sides of the story . So far it’s looking like math you gonna end up paying .
RED FLAG #1 - when a black person says "God told me" or "I'm going to leave it in God's hands" but they dont mention God in them contracts - something wrong
Math the type of homie he keeps friends that lower than him on purpose but never wants to excel and everything is good he’ll give them alittle money but they gotta know there place
Most important part of being The Boss is SACRIFICE!! Being a real boss means everyone else eats first and you eat LAST!! You may end up eating the biggest portion in the end but your team gotta get theirs off top… and sometimes being the boss means you dont get to eat at all but thats a penalty of leadership & choosing to be responsible for other’s livelihood.
@TennisinaMinute
Жыл бұрын
Exactly as a business owner your business might be in the red for 3/4 of the year …but that don’t mean you don’t pay your employees, they get paid weekly and everytime they show up, blk business doesn’t work out only because we aren’t good businessmen but we can be and do better
@macbtheshooter6065
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Pimps eat first and don’t understand why you won’t keep working for free
This is just something that I use to notice (Math would cut Esso off in the middle of his questions to the guest) - or change the subject soon as Esso ask a question - anybody else noticed that?
How you not pay your employees? That’s ho shit!
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Just like the other Podcasts, starts off great good chemistry then they taking off it’s a Hit. Then the brake up because it’s always looks like it’s all agreed upon by fist 🤜 bumps instead of written contracts
The tony yayo interview did it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@seanwordsmith5908
Жыл бұрын
100
@slimjim8227tt
Жыл бұрын
I said the same
@youngguypat
Жыл бұрын
Y’all didn’t see it before that? Why you say the Yayo interview?
@thetony8959
Жыл бұрын
Why u say the Yayo interview?
@JoshManagement
Жыл бұрын
Why bro
Salute to both of yall
U”had” 6,000 in a wallet to pay him and lost it? BIG CAP 🧢
@jhova187
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 homie really played the producer
@kingkoopa2334
Жыл бұрын
Lol he looked like he was lying fr
If you’re not paying the camera man that’s bad business period.
Math got rid of Ms fit and knowledge and now esso and hynaken this is a bad look for him
@MysteryKmt
Жыл бұрын
He lost hollow and Cortez before that. Loyalty is often one sided.
@goatsquadtv8786
Жыл бұрын
Actually fit left cause knowledge got kicked off the show for doing sucka shit lol and Esso and Hynaken were wild useless show will be much ounce it's settles ..I like Bigga and Mecca
FACT #1 labor is a part of overhead - people are more important than how good your SET looks
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Business 101 but they don’t know that though
@Bleek17Six
Жыл бұрын
1000%
@dpep6687
Жыл бұрын
THE PRODUCER WAS HELPING TO PAY THE RENT FOR QUEENS FLIP.
They said he said he didn’t need no money because he had a job. Know matter what you should pay someone for their work.
@lexxframe
Жыл бұрын
So if math is saying COME GET YOUR MONEY and the person don’t what do you expect math to do? I’ll wait…
@brianwestbrook2041
Жыл бұрын
that's not how business works - COME GET YOUR MONEY - is not something your job tells you on Friday - COME GET YOUR MONEY - sounds like he wasnt being paid for a long time - you was using his labor to leverage yourself into a situation - then you decided not that you have an offer - you want to pay so you dont have to go to court over the footage - cuz im sure SP8 Ghost has the master footage since he was the editor
@mississippibilly_
Жыл бұрын
I was doing my homies logo for free..he said naw I'm going to pay you like a customer..RNS
@mississippibilly_
Жыл бұрын
@@lexxframe that's a long time to wait for payment..considering he's is the room everytime they record
@lexxframe
Жыл бұрын
@@mississippibilly_ yeah but he did the same thing with flip.. it’s a habit at this point.
This The First time Somebody Admitted to not paying a person that put hours in. And turn around and say what do I have to do with this. Flip acting like he didn't have a family that's crazy
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Hours and years 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@ILLiteSociety
Жыл бұрын
Bro…that’s how it goes when you’re an entrepreneur. You think it’s immediate? Space knew. You think flip making a killing off this shit yet? Hell no! If you believe in your man, you stick it out and keep a 9 to 5 until shit pops. You don’t not honor your word, or avoid confrontation then pull a bitch move. THAT is crazy.
@jerseynigga7322
Жыл бұрын
@@ILLiteSociety Facts
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@ILLiteSociety I like Flip but who’s gonna work for 3 years for free? And Flip said his skit money went to his family which is understandable but again who works for free ?
@b-lo3145
Жыл бұрын
How You Call Someone Employee’s Without Paying Them ? These Dudes Is Crazy
So basically both of these guys didn't pay their workers smh
I really hate that this happened because the chemistry amongst you all is unmatched. I hope you all work it out. Esso and the older wise guy are my favs. Esso is animated and funny at times. He is an important element to the show
@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851
Жыл бұрын
Esso was a major loss, especially with the Queens talk.
@greglouch
Жыл бұрын
He should've dropped Corny ass Mr. Know-it-All Mecca instead dropping Esso and Heineken. Dude be sitting there like a stuck up broad. He's the prime example of why other rappers from other regions are not respected from NY rappers.
@autumn_b905
Жыл бұрын
@@greglouch the fact that I don't even remember who Mecca is proves your point 🤣
@greglouch
Жыл бұрын
@@autumn_b905 lol Mecca is the Corny dude that sits right next to Math with the Glasses & dreds in his head.
Opening conversation is hilarious 😂😂😂
You have to pay a man for their services..
@idk4778
Жыл бұрын
And who told you that they didn’t get paid
@Freshbreadtv
Жыл бұрын
Y’all sound like y’all full of shit pay that Man for his services
@vi1677
Жыл бұрын
@@idk4778 They said it out they own mouth that they didn't get payed for two shows.
@idk4778
Жыл бұрын
@@vi1677 so you don’t get paid for 2 shows and u come to someone show talking cray, did Math Hoffa agreed with them because they can say whatever they want and first thing you do is calling math Hoffa e solve it like a man better than coming to KZread clout chasing
@jcc3333
Жыл бұрын
But he lost a wallet with 6k 💀💀💀💀
I been waitin for this link up once again...my two favorites ....yall gotta do a episode link up again. Long overdue
I hate to say it but I knew one day this would happen. When I first started watching the podcast I always wondered how was math going to spilt the bad amongst everyone when he has at least 7 co host and how everyone would get their proper compensation. Wayyy too many cohost but it’s an amazing show
@pennywise1003
Жыл бұрын
That’s the problem I don’t wanna hear seven people we wanna hear math and maybe one more person but too many people in there
@edieselentertainment
Жыл бұрын
It's his show, he can have co hosts but there's one Math. Play your position generate your clout then branch out.
@DaReal1000Gramz
Жыл бұрын
KZread needs to stop paying these channels go look for a job niggas fighting over a welfare check
@benhillSWATS
Жыл бұрын
@@edieselentertainment 🎯
@dreadnaughttactical
Жыл бұрын
Too many chefs in the kitchen spoil the meal.. and too many hands in the pot leaves you still feeling hungry. Misfit was the very first co-host on Hoffa's podcast.. and he slowly fazed her out for these other opinionated niccas.. and I bet she never seen a single dime. Math Hoffa aint NEVER been loyal to NOBODY.. just ask Hollow da Don
Maybe Spaceghost Is Very Important? To Me One Of The Best Parts Of Maths Shows Was It’s High Quality Production , Especially Early On
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Editors are a dumb a dozen.
@b-lo3145
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 , If You Know The Business Then You Know More Then Me Homie! That’s Why I Typed “Maybe” 💯
Flip if you want your name clear of the past. Then pay what you owe. Come to an agreement and pay that man.
Great 👍🏽 show
Makes sense why the DRose interview looked and sounded so different.
Oooohh so this is why the sound is so messed up on the drose episode
@pablotherealone9834
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the Sound on that D Rose is Horrible I can’t watch it
The sigh language had me rollin 😂
Everyone is not worried about your families, what about their families??????
@mariochaniel6575
Жыл бұрын
That's dumb because he's the bag Gillie and them just got a multi million dollar deal now if he get the money that's it math still has branded him self to make millions dumb move..
@nasirphilly3906
Жыл бұрын
My opinion
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point. Flip wasn't making any profit on the pods of which boy knew from the beginning. If he wanted to get paid he could've left any time
@nasirphilly3906
Жыл бұрын
Understandable but was there know extra bread around? Thanks for the input.
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@nasirphilly3906 it doesn't seem so. Flip said ghost wanted to be paid from flipz skits. That wouldn't make sense. You can't agree to work for free than get mad you aint get paid. Aint like they had a contract stating he would get x amount and didn't
I rocks with math heavy 😎 but I have a deep feeling that he not telling the truth . alot of brothers do shit like that when they feel they are the face of things.
@dictionary9150
Жыл бұрын
brandon marshall , joe budden, now math hoffa and every r&b group with a lead singer same recipe every time
@youngogee7446
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@PeterBagjuice
Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head young OG, our people when they get in these positions feel like folks should just be glad to be there and take whatever they're "given" when they feel like "giving".
@555crooked
Жыл бұрын
But this dude SG held his video for 100k to get paid. Math does have a point
@74martymcfly
Жыл бұрын
Look back at the Ceasar episode him an hynaken have a convo about him starting his own show that's an alley oop right there. Plus esso an hynaken have a show that get 600- 1k views they wasn't getting network offers with that.
Right or wrong, I'm glad we got to hear their point of views. I loved those New York accents. :)
This is what happens when money comes into play. It was only a matter of time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im laughing off the title alone!!
You can tell Math was gonna act this way when the bag came lmao
@blackmagic7743
Жыл бұрын
🤣funny but true
@khalilwilliams1818
Жыл бұрын
LOM lol
@dictionary9150
Жыл бұрын
they complain about how record labels pimp artist when it comes to money but they mimic the same behavior also by exploiting their employees by not paying them.
@blackmagic7743
Жыл бұрын
@@khalilwilliams1818 loyalty over money
@nicksheen2730
Жыл бұрын
Lol in whaat way?
Math lost a wallet with 6K. No ID’s no credit cards no bank cards nothing ok bruh 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢.
@tomteey22
Жыл бұрын
Lol he could have transferred the money to his bank account.
@joelittorres
Жыл бұрын
What a DIZASTER 🤦♂️
By far my favorite podcast but GODDAMN I was hoping everyone would stick together and grow and build until a network came in, sponsored them, so that EVERYONE can get a consistent, steady check, but damn, the reality is, it’s hard to break bread with that many people on the panel, and everyone feels like they deserve a certain amount, which may not always be possible. Oh well, hope they continue to put out great content, I don’t know if the original audio guy left cause the sound quality on the D Rose interview makes it hard to listen to, but I’ll still support the show no matter what. Salute Math!
@orlandomolina940
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a lot people on the panel. If i owned a network, I wouldn't wanna pay all them either. The main one I would want is HOFFA and if he chooses to break them guys off then that's his decision but I'm only paying for HOFFA. Nothing against the rest of the fellas
@nailbopbyashlee
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why it sounded like that
@ez-duz-it
Жыл бұрын
@@nailbopbyashlee exactly I think his camera man took his mics as well
@alakazam25yearsago8
Жыл бұрын
@@ez-duz-it he said the guy spaceghost (cameraman) took mics camera etc and tried to extort him for 100k to get them back
@hardart-
Жыл бұрын
@@orlandomolina940 it's a lot that goes into production fam. Way more than 1 man putn in work. Those guys not only ask questions but give Math questions to ask guest. Technically, that's called being a writer. Writers get paid fam. Cameramen & Editors get paid.
damn....such a shame...Bimmy was just on a Math Hoffa episode mentioning he hopes the show and team keep it together.....I love the show hopefully all will work out for the best
@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851
Жыл бұрын
Saw that and repeated that in the comments lmao smh
These fools had me crying with that sign language battle
@darkcocoakiss
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@alakazam25yearsago8
Жыл бұрын
@@darkcocoakiss what ya toes smellin like tho girl
The fellas said u disrespected them and told them they weren't needed so why is Math acting like he has no idea why any of this is happening. It's fucked up cuz they had a great thing going.
@goatsquadtv8786
Жыл бұрын
They could be fronting which is most likely,I wouldn't trust Hynaken,Esso and Space..
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
@@goatsquadtv8786 so they’re ALL lying and math is telling the truth 🧐🧐🧐
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@shantamonique possibly. Bagfeul isnt doing much numbers under 10k average leaving from a show that does millions. This won't be the first time someone has fabricated a Storyline to sell their next venture. Plus lip service means zero. If they have reciepts it can be proven but without that its 🧢
@jayburnham3994
Жыл бұрын
When you dont bring any external value of your own then you are expendable to some extent. Fans just get use to they know but will adjust to whats new if they come to enjoy it.
@74martymcfly
Жыл бұрын
@@mitchy2311 some of them joints got 600 views
At the beginning of the day and at the end of the day it all comes down to proactive communication. Everything sounds like reactive communication across the board
Math Hoffa switches up his roster more than the Knicks. That should tell you everything about this situation. Math is likeable but it gets tricky when you have to cut the checks and you’ve never cut checks.
Money is always the culprit. Hope every one gets it together
The silent communication was funny af 😂
The beginning of this live is legendary they could meme this 😂
@MugzReaper666
Жыл бұрын
Factz shit had me krying
Look what Yayo did 🤦🏽♂️😂
Don’t let nobody mess with your magnetic energy no one wants to see change growth an development as a man an your showing an proving in real time thank you
That’s crazy bro how things goin
When You See Selfish, Proud Successful Dudes You Know Their Success Isn’t God Brought
This is why communication and clarity is key when it comes to business. Dapping it up and coining you my dog when comes to business will always always come to this. Our culture/people needs to do better COMMUNICATION IS KEY 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾
Damn man this is one of my favorite shows. I hope it’s not coming to an end. I hope these brothers can work it out if possible. We already experienced the breakup of Joe with Rory and Mal. I was really happy with Hoffa show.
@qc9178
Жыл бұрын
Show ain’t going anywhere just the self entitled weirdos are out the picture!
@shantamonique
Жыл бұрын
Show is still going but the audio and visual is 🚮🚮🚮
@AJ22840
Жыл бұрын
@@qc9178 I just got through the video. I’m glad it’s still continuing. I didn’t noticed that a few of those guys were already gone.
@qc9178
Жыл бұрын
@@AJ22840 yep, just a part of the journey.. salute!
20:44 oohhhh so THATS why the Derrick Rose interview is like that... damnnnn
Sp8 was very respectful .
This is so sad.. but weird how it became about Sp8 when Math kicked everybody off the show and told him he didn't need them 🤔🤷🏾♀️
@ravecomedical9647
Жыл бұрын
Yo what happened ? Did Esso , Heineken, and Space leave the show ?
I’m glad both of y’all Ninjas are together, because both of y’all Ninjas are CLOWN AS# Ninjas. On GOD!!!
filp content is dope am a fan .math Hoff congrats on your mature self awaking each day in God is a blessing wish many more
Just Pay People! Be fair! Is it they hard for US to do with each other? Damnnnnnn!
First 2 minutes is hilarious 😂😂
Hoffa you a humble brother. Let God take the wheel. You see false people in you vision clear. You just so humble and refuse to show ignorance. You got my respect Hoffa 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Esso and Heineken brought a certain energy to the show that can’t be duplicated
@him4440
Жыл бұрын
eh
@barboah7317
Жыл бұрын
Same thing I thought about Joe budden podcast wit mal and da other dude but shit he good now trust and beleive math will b good 👍...
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Esso was good but hynaken was trash
@mikejones-mo8xh
Жыл бұрын
@@barboah7317 I stopped watching when they left. And I was watching their show a while and im not feeling there's either they should of stayed together. If I had to choose 1 it would be Joe's but I'm good on both
@justinadams-turner5238
Жыл бұрын
@@barboah7317 you hit it on head. You will see if folks elevate based off what they think they brought to the show. Mal and Rory got a deal based off their fan base so I’m interested to see what the guys who left do
Success changes people around you,facts
@fredthetruth3701
Жыл бұрын
It changes the people around you as well as yourself.
@rodneywonder91
Жыл бұрын
I mean yea it does change the people around you..Especially if you are not paying the people around you that contributed to your success…
@zulu2523
Жыл бұрын
That’s a lie, it makes you show your true colors
I got introduced to both of these guys thru battle rap and I’m proud to see the success but the same way all the battlers felt about Smack underpaying them they should’ve been on top of the business period!! You have to pay the ppl that’s keeping the ball rolling no excuses!
This talk explains a lot!! I been through it 💯 this touched a soothing nerve!!
Somebody lying… I just know the chemistry was dope wit Esso and hynaken on so MEO def gonna hit different now
@ayalewdessieabebe
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who's lying
@bksfinest9582
Жыл бұрын
@@ayalewdessieabebe I’m a say math is. So many ppl have came and gone off that show
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
@@bksfinest9582 sooo. The cast was never locked in. It was always an emsemble and wasn't consistent in the earlier days
Math closing arguments sounded like he really got his grown man on🤔 ✌🏿 and success 🙌🏾
Of course the guys who have been on HOFFA show are gonna want to be compensated in some way. I always wondered when HOFFA got the bag, how were the guys gonna feel or feel what they thought they should get if they should get anything
@orlandomolina940
Жыл бұрын
There should always be paperwork when going into any startup business. Friends or not. Just to eliminate conversations like this
@corporatemaq
Жыл бұрын
They each also have their own show
“Success has a very awkward affect on not only you, but the people around you.” - Math That’s fact. I watched the SP8, Esso and Hyn interview and something smelled off about their narrative. I personally like Esso, but noticed Hyn was in his feeling on that Yayo episode. SP8 using tactics that bring severe repercussions.
I was in business wit a dude like space, and wen he left & nevr answered the ph again. Ppl said look at it as a blessing
Bosses should act like Bosses. Y'all brothers are lame like the rest.. Respectfully 💯
Some black men are hard to deal with. It's all me, me, me,me me...... You fellas aren't different from the other's......
Just watched the interrogation with y’all two & now seeing full circle & even Jen at Hoff crib 🤣 mannnn
The non verbal communication at the beginning 😂😂😂
@louiiviable
Жыл бұрын
I read it all lmao funny asl 😂
I pray that them Brothers work their differences out🙏🏿✊🏿💪🏿
Same thing happened with Million Dollaz Worth of Game and The Joe Budden Podcast
@mitchy2311
Жыл бұрын
Not the same at all. MWOFG were actually proven to have done bad business. Joe and math not so much
Fix the squad fam. That D Rose episode look crazy
Queenz flip being on the show will be fire !!!
Shout out to math he really grew up the old math would have spazz out I’m proud of you king keep up the good work king 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@edieselentertainment
Жыл бұрын
When one has a thriving business with new opportunities, one tends to think and use logic.
Thought flip was jojocapone at first.. but lowkey flip happy as fuck MEO lost a few members,, especially sp8ghost
This Is Sad,I truly love these guys ..
I like the separations in the podcast world .
nigga said he got the whip on consignment 😂😂😂😂😂
As a fan watching and just off the surface , the narrative he put out makes the casual fan believe math did some grimey shit but after seeing this conversation shit makes sense & math ain’t the bad guy .. grown men should be able to talk before running to the internet & creating narratives & tryna extort people.
THING IS YOU GOTTT IT LIKE THAT NOW FLIPPP PAYYY THA MANNNN FACTSSSS
First two minutes funny as hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Communication is key!!
Flip @8:45, you're my man but you were wrong... your lifestyle has nothing to do with what you agreed to pay someone. if you agreed, then stick to your word. downgrade your lifestyle if you must. it ain't about what you did in the past or your personality. your word is your word and only you can break that. love
I lost a wallet with $6k in it waiting for him Yeah math you all 🧢 Pay them
You don't know what people are capable of until they do something. You still gotta give people the benefit of the doubt.
The beginning is hilarious
Hold up, Math went on Queenzflip interrogation room to interrogate Queenzflip after the Jihadi fight and met Sp8 Ghost. Next thing, they started working together without Flip's knowledge or blessing. Editing is no simple task. You got to piece language and pictures together. Just like how a battle rapper uses body, cadence and lyrics to paint pictures
@TimPace3
Жыл бұрын
Flip did know cuz he said in the beginning he gave math his number to use his services
@zay1521
Жыл бұрын
Flip gave the blessing u hear flip say he lined them up..ghost just never told flip
@wppdendoor1948
Жыл бұрын
@@TimPace3 ok, i could be wrong but, during the lockdown- flip and math had an i.g live. Flip appeared shocked at how sp8 and math linked up- was revealed that Jenna put them together. Don't quote e lol i could be wrong as to the source of information
@wppdendoor1948
Жыл бұрын
@Mickey St James naa, Flip put Math and Jenna on the phone together during one of his shows. Jenna had revealed to Flip that she liked him during prior convo