QR Nth Coast line 1993 Old Diesels, 3900 Cl, ICE Cab Ride
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@Dachrinnensaeufer3 жыл бұрын
I took the northbound Sunlander in February 1993, all the way from Brisbane to Cairns. Spectacular scenery, spent a great time in the lounge car and the restaurant. Great trip! Booked a second class roomette and got an upgrade to first class by the super nice conductor. "No way, mate! You're too tall!"
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
QR has always been a railway with a heart, fortunately with passenger services still in government ownership 👍
@castlemania082 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see an English Electric shunting down Quay St Bundaberg! One of the very few times I’ve seen the branch line used until it was removed for the Quay St rejuvenation project in the 2000’s. The Boral Tanker would have been going to the Boral Depot, just on the other side of Bundy Creek at the site of the old Gasworks off Kennedy Bridge. By the mid 1990’s, the only two branches off the Quay St line was Burnett Sawmill and Boral, and even by then road transport was almost fully dominating…
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your ‘inside information.’ Well it was just good luck on my part that the train happened to be there when I happened to be there too. Just another little part of Australian railways that has disappeared forever making what is left that little bit less diverse.
@castlemania08
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 The bridge over Bundy Creek was heritage listed, so it still exists as a pathway over to East Bundaberg from Quay St (it’s currently under restoration works for pedestrian safety)
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
@@castlemania08 😊👍
@tazzer97 жыл бұрын
Only saw one of those sunlander M series staff cars going up the toowomba range yesterday. But sadly on the back of a truck.
@tressteleg1
7 жыл бұрын
+Taran Saunders Hopefully on its way to that Museum group at Warrick. The wheels could be on another truck. It's cheaper to send a train by road theses days than by rail! True!
@tazzer9
7 жыл бұрын
tressteleg1 by going up the toowoomba range I highly doubt its for the southern downs railway. Not the most direct route by road. Probably going to end up as someones granny flat.
@derekrowanphotograpics2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Meany childhood memories. Thank Dad William Rowan - 42yrs QR Service.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
😊👍👍
@JGrandcourt6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. As you said great GM sounds and a V8 to boot!
@taureanlea37776 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a good old QR :-D
@paash6986 жыл бұрын
the 3900 class electic locos were built speciffically for the north coast line electrification, for brisbane to rockhampton service. commissioned in 1986. it was very common to see a diesel provided on through freights, for north of rockhampton. the e.l. was detached at rocky and returned on another southbound fast freighter.
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and a disgrace that they were stolen for coal trains and never returned. Probably another dud result of privatisation.
@Jerram89
5 жыл бұрын
The electrics were great locos with excellent hauling ability and instant power to keep the train stretched. A real shame they were lost to coal (and ultimately scrapped only a few years later), but alas time moved on.
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
I didnt know they were scrapped. But certainly stolen by Aurizon and never returned.
@realjohnboxall5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thank you. Love seeing the local trains with a 3900 and SX cars - such madness (in a good way)
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when Aurizon was created, they had grabbed all the Brisbane/North Coast 3900 Class Electric locos and never gave them back. Disgraceful for diesels to haul trains all the way to Rocky.
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
3900 class was completely scrapped unfortunately now we flogging 2800s@@tressteleg1
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@@interceptor7905 I would like to know why the locomotives designed for passenger train use were never given back when finished with. Unfortunately nobody seems to have convinced the state government that electric locomotives should be running up and down the coast hauling freight and the Spirit of the Outback.
@BronsonTheCat7 жыл бұрын
The 3900's won't be back as the class is now extinct.
@catecurl37904 жыл бұрын
I remember those diesel sounds. How they punctated the stifling hot still summer days. Not a breeze anywhere. The inimitable smell and the go stop go pull on the train as it left dutton park
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
cate curl 😊👍
@phillips88gmail2 жыл бұрын
Some of those old Qld diesel locos were sold Thailand many years ago, fully clapped out when Thailand received them,
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
There seems to have been quite a trade in secondhand diesel locomotive in comparatively recent years, and that included some coming this way from across the Tasman, while others found their way to Tasmania.
@liljrae96846 жыл бұрын
miss that ICE train used to travel on it between brisbane and rockhampton all the time :( tilt train just doesnt have as much character about it. I notice in one of the clips a 3900 class pulling the sunlander, I'm guessing they changed over to a diesel at Rockhampton? Why wouldn't they use one on the whole route?
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
The 3900 Electrics handled just about all the north coast locomotive work to Rockhampton until they were stolen by the coal lines and never given back. Privatisation may have been in the middle of that and the 3900s were on the wrong side of the fence at that time. A great pity.
@russellanderson3298
5 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 I have found it strange that the 3900 class were displaced on the NCL by diesels ... a lot of money was spent on the electrifcation north of ?? for a passenger train a day ... btw, I find electric locos as boring as dog s***t .... lol
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
I think QR coal needed more electric locos so ‘borrowed’ the 3900 Class but never gave them back when they got more electrics. It is the power output that impresses with electrics. They are long gone by the time diesels get up any real speed. Look at diesel pathetic performance when replacing electric tilt trains during overhauls.
@russellanderson3298
5 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Well, QR National became Aurizon and thus presumably haul freight from Brisbane up the NCL with 2800 class diesels.... so, why get rid of the electrics? .. I dont know?...
@29djmikey
2 жыл бұрын
Yes 30min stopped to change locomotives at rocky took the sunlander to Mackay in 02'
@ghria4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this valuable footage to us on KZread. Did the ICE sets have a dining car, or was it a gallery car?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember the details but if anything it would have simply been a takeaway snack bar.
@gregg6473
4 жыл бұрын
ICE trains had a small vestibule galley in each car where snacks (e.g. pies/sausage rolls) could be heated, but no dining car or snack bar as such. Passenger attendants delivered food directly to passengers in their seats (airline style). From memory, meals were originally included in the fare when the Spirit of Capricorn commenced running. At least that's how I remembered it back in September 1989. Citytrain ICE services to Nambour and Gympie didn't offer meals, so galley equipment wasn't used on those runs.
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
Greg G I think they would have been just one gallery car on each train set. Nevertheless those interesting cars are being scrapped a present it seems. I have no idea why they did not reuse one on the Rockhampton line when the electric tilt trains were being restored. Anything would have been better than the diesel hauled slug.
@gregg6473
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you're correct... Galley equipment was located in the EMM cars only, but not EMD or EMT.
@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug90426 жыл бұрын
At 14:52, why is the guard at the rear passenger door and not at the guard cab door?
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
I just looked at it. I have no idea why the guard was at that door and I know little about those trains but it is clear that there are the switches above the door to enable guard duties to be done there. And presumably at all other doors on the train. Being a long distance service, there could well be reasons for guards to move about the train, for example where station platforms are sometimes short.
@whiskeymikephotography4 жыл бұрын
Was the drivers name Simon?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the slightest idea. Usually I don’t think any names were exchanged with the crew when I got a cab ride. So unless one crew member called the other by name, I would never have heard their names.
@whiskeymikephotography
4 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Oh okay, was wondering because it sounded like a driver I know.
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could send him the video link. He may remember if it was him.
@whiskeymikephotography
4 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Oh true.
@trevormaxwell73986 жыл бұрын
It's silly having only single track, if this line is so busy
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
+Trevor Maxwell Lots of silly things would be gone if the nation were flush with money. Straightening curves especially south of Nambour (already done here and there) is possibly more important, especially if duplication comes with straightening which I expect it does.
@trevormaxwell7398
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we are not flushed, with money as you said
@christophersmith96543 жыл бұрын
So 3900 class were borrowed, why weren't they returned?
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Very good question! I suspect that the coalfield lines ‘borrowed’ the locomotives when QR was one big happy family and after Bligh sold off the profitable freight section, because the 3900 class happened to be still in the possession of the coal lines, that is where they were considered to belong. Nevertheless it is scandalous that every day diesel locomotives are running hundreds of kilometres under electric wires while surplus electric locomotives are sitting idle or have been scrapped.
@christophersmith9654
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 thanks for the info
@jasonpeisley60313 жыл бұрын
Are you sure this is 1993?? Because the Tilt Train didn't enter service until 1998
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Where was the Tilt Train in this video? Timepoint please.
@TCFan30
2 жыл бұрын
22:05
@TCFan30
2 жыл бұрын
It said in the caption - 2003 Electric Tilt Train. He obviously must have filmed it separately or got the dates for the ICE mixed up as QR only started using the red QR logo on the front of the units from the mid 90s. Prior to that it was the large green on yellow logo at the front and rear.
@nickrowe74516 жыл бұрын
Any info on that odd coloured car on the Queenslander at 11:56 ??
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
Nothing for certain but I note that it is the 3rd out of 6 passenger cars so maybe it was the dining car but if so I could not guess why it is in different colours. The Queenslander, as far as I know, was an upmarket version of the Sunlander. I think it was First Class passengers only but I never rode it.
@nickrowe7451
6 жыл бұрын
tressteleg1 know anything about it’s stopping pattern? For such a short train I’m guessing it only stopped at large cities up north
@gregg6473
5 жыл бұрын
The yellow/maroon coloured car was the "Club Loco" disco car with dance floor/lounge that was introduced on the Spirit of the Tropics train, which also formed the rear (sitting) half of the Queenslander in the mid to late 90's. The Spirit of the Tropics was aimed at a younger market, but it ultimately did not survive against cheaper airfares.
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
👍
@interceptor79053 ай бұрын
Cooroy still looks exact same except siding is gone
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. The days of dropping a few wagons off a train at intermediate stations seem to have gone.
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Long time ago.Now all trains maximum length and tonnage.I drive this corridor it is interesting to watch your videos
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@interceptor7905 Yes, unfortunately. Railways tend to become less and less interesting in some directions. Glad you like my videos. If you ever want to be a discrete participant…
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Yeah why not
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@@interceptor7905 Please email me using tressteleg(at)icloud.com Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
@549BR4 жыл бұрын
Where is this?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
If you mean the whole video, on Queensland Rail, and north of Brisbane Australia. Track gauge 3’ 6” or 1067mm.
@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug90426 жыл бұрын
I thought the ICE couldn't do more than 120, or was it going down a hill, or am I just wrong...
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
It probably was just 120. The Tilt Train is (?was) 160. Other Electrics in daily life can do 130 and 140 km/h.
@Jerram89
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that the ice was good for 160, but limited officially to 120. Of course in real life the limit was only the lower of what the driver wanted to do or the speed at which the ATC/ATP gave you a penalty, as attested to here.
Пікірлер: 78
I took the northbound Sunlander in February 1993, all the way from Brisbane to Cairns. Spectacular scenery, spent a great time in the lounge car and the restaurant. Great trip! Booked a second class roomette and got an upgrade to first class by the super nice conductor. "No way, mate! You're too tall!"
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
QR has always been a railway with a heart, fortunately with passenger services still in government ownership 👍
Amazing to see an English Electric shunting down Quay St Bundaberg! One of the very few times I’ve seen the branch line used until it was removed for the Quay St rejuvenation project in the 2000’s. The Boral Tanker would have been going to the Boral Depot, just on the other side of Bundy Creek at the site of the old Gasworks off Kennedy Bridge. By the mid 1990’s, the only two branches off the Quay St line was Burnett Sawmill and Boral, and even by then road transport was almost fully dominating…
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your ‘inside information.’ Well it was just good luck on my part that the train happened to be there when I happened to be there too. Just another little part of Australian railways that has disappeared forever making what is left that little bit less diverse.
@castlemania08
2 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 The bridge over Bundy Creek was heritage listed, so it still exists as a pathway over to East Bundaberg from Quay St (it’s currently under restoration works for pedestrian safety)
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
@@castlemania08 😊👍
Only saw one of those sunlander M series staff cars going up the toowomba range yesterday. But sadly on the back of a truck.
@tressteleg1
7 жыл бұрын
+Taran Saunders Hopefully on its way to that Museum group at Warrick. The wheels could be on another truck. It's cheaper to send a train by road theses days than by rail! True!
@tazzer9
7 жыл бұрын
tressteleg1 by going up the toowoomba range I highly doubt its for the southern downs railway. Not the most direct route by road. Probably going to end up as someones granny flat.
Thanks for posting. Meany childhood memories. Thank Dad William Rowan - 42yrs QR Service.
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
😊👍👍
Thanks for posting. As you said great GM sounds and a V8 to boot!
I love seeing a good old QR :-D
the 3900 class electic locos were built speciffically for the north coast line electrification, for brisbane to rockhampton service. commissioned in 1986. it was very common to see a diesel provided on through freights, for north of rockhampton. the e.l. was detached at rocky and returned on another southbound fast freighter.
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and a disgrace that they were stolen for coal trains and never returned. Probably another dud result of privatisation.
@Jerram89
5 жыл бұрын
The electrics were great locos with excellent hauling ability and instant power to keep the train stretched. A real shame they were lost to coal (and ultimately scrapped only a few years later), but alas time moved on.
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
I didnt know they were scrapped. But certainly stolen by Aurizon and never returned.
Another great video, thank you. Love seeing the local trains with a 3900 and SX cars - such madness (in a good way)
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately when Aurizon was created, they had grabbed all the Brisbane/North Coast 3900 Class Electric locos and never gave them back. Disgraceful for diesels to haul trains all the way to Rocky.
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
3900 class was completely scrapped unfortunately now we flogging 2800s@@tressteleg1
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@@interceptor7905 I would like to know why the locomotives designed for passenger train use were never given back when finished with. Unfortunately nobody seems to have convinced the state government that electric locomotives should be running up and down the coast hauling freight and the Spirit of the Outback.
The 3900's won't be back as the class is now extinct.
I remember those diesel sounds. How they punctated the stifling hot still summer days. Not a breeze anywhere. The inimitable smell and the go stop go pull on the train as it left dutton park
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
cate curl 😊👍
Some of those old Qld diesel locos were sold Thailand many years ago, fully clapped out when Thailand received them,
@tressteleg1
2 жыл бұрын
There seems to have been quite a trade in secondhand diesel locomotive in comparatively recent years, and that included some coming this way from across the Tasman, while others found their way to Tasmania.
miss that ICE train used to travel on it between brisbane and rockhampton all the time :( tilt train just doesnt have as much character about it. I notice in one of the clips a 3900 class pulling the sunlander, I'm guessing they changed over to a diesel at Rockhampton? Why wouldn't they use one on the whole route?
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
The 3900 Electrics handled just about all the north coast locomotive work to Rockhampton until they were stolen by the coal lines and never given back. Privatisation may have been in the middle of that and the 3900s were on the wrong side of the fence at that time. A great pity.
@russellanderson3298
5 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 I have found it strange that the 3900 class were displaced on the NCL by diesels ... a lot of money was spent on the electrifcation north of ?? for a passenger train a day ... btw, I find electric locos as boring as dog s***t .... lol
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
I think QR coal needed more electric locos so ‘borrowed’ the 3900 Class but never gave them back when they got more electrics. It is the power output that impresses with electrics. They are long gone by the time diesels get up any real speed. Look at diesel pathetic performance when replacing electric tilt trains during overhauls.
@russellanderson3298
5 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Well, QR National became Aurizon and thus presumably haul freight from Brisbane up the NCL with 2800 class diesels.... so, why get rid of the electrics? .. I dont know?...
@29djmikey
2 жыл бұрын
Yes 30min stopped to change locomotives at rocky took the sunlander to Mackay in 02'
Thanks for sharing this valuable footage to us on KZread. Did the ICE sets have a dining car, or was it a gallery car?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember the details but if anything it would have simply been a takeaway snack bar.
@gregg6473
4 жыл бұрын
ICE trains had a small vestibule galley in each car where snacks (e.g. pies/sausage rolls) could be heated, but no dining car or snack bar as such. Passenger attendants delivered food directly to passengers in their seats (airline style). From memory, meals were originally included in the fare when the Spirit of Capricorn commenced running. At least that's how I remembered it back in September 1989. Citytrain ICE services to Nambour and Gympie didn't offer meals, so galley equipment wasn't used on those runs.
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
Greg G I think they would have been just one gallery car on each train set. Nevertheless those interesting cars are being scrapped a present it seems. I have no idea why they did not reuse one on the Rockhampton line when the electric tilt trains were being restored. Anything would have been better than the diesel hauled slug.
@gregg6473
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you're correct... Galley equipment was located in the EMM cars only, but not EMD or EMT.
At 14:52, why is the guard at the rear passenger door and not at the guard cab door?
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
I just looked at it. I have no idea why the guard was at that door and I know little about those trains but it is clear that there are the switches above the door to enable guard duties to be done there. And presumably at all other doors on the train. Being a long distance service, there could well be reasons for guards to move about the train, for example where station platforms are sometimes short.
Was the drivers name Simon?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the slightest idea. Usually I don’t think any names were exchanged with the crew when I got a cab ride. So unless one crew member called the other by name, I would never have heard their names.
@whiskeymikephotography
4 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Oh okay, was wondering because it sounded like a driver I know.
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could send him the video link. He may remember if it was him.
@whiskeymikephotography
4 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Oh true.
It's silly having only single track, if this line is so busy
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
+Trevor Maxwell Lots of silly things would be gone if the nation were flush with money. Straightening curves especially south of Nambour (already done here and there) is possibly more important, especially if duplication comes with straightening which I expect it does.
@trevormaxwell7398
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we are not flushed, with money as you said
So 3900 class were borrowed, why weren't they returned?
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Very good question! I suspect that the coalfield lines ‘borrowed’ the locomotives when QR was one big happy family and after Bligh sold off the profitable freight section, because the 3900 class happened to be still in the possession of the coal lines, that is where they were considered to belong. Nevertheless it is scandalous that every day diesel locomotives are running hundreds of kilometres under electric wires while surplus electric locomotives are sitting idle or have been scrapped.
@christophersmith9654
3 жыл бұрын
@@tressteleg1 thanks for the info
Are you sure this is 1993?? Because the Tilt Train didn't enter service until 1998
@tressteleg1
3 жыл бұрын
Where was the Tilt Train in this video? Timepoint please.
@TCFan30
2 жыл бұрын
22:05
@TCFan30
2 жыл бұрын
It said in the caption - 2003 Electric Tilt Train. He obviously must have filmed it separately or got the dates for the ICE mixed up as QR only started using the red QR logo on the front of the units from the mid 90s. Prior to that it was the large green on yellow logo at the front and rear.
Any info on that odd coloured car on the Queenslander at 11:56 ??
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
Nothing for certain but I note that it is the 3rd out of 6 passenger cars so maybe it was the dining car but if so I could not guess why it is in different colours. The Queenslander, as far as I know, was an upmarket version of the Sunlander. I think it was First Class passengers only but I never rode it.
@nickrowe7451
6 жыл бұрын
tressteleg1 know anything about it’s stopping pattern? For such a short train I’m guessing it only stopped at large cities up north
@gregg6473
5 жыл бұрын
The yellow/maroon coloured car was the "Club Loco" disco car with dance floor/lounge that was introduced on the Spirit of the Tropics train, which also formed the rear (sitting) half of the Queenslander in the mid to late 90's. The Spirit of the Tropics was aimed at a younger market, but it ultimately did not survive against cheaper airfares.
@tressteleg1
5 жыл бұрын
👍
Cooroy still looks exact same except siding is gone
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. The days of dropping a few wagons off a train at intermediate stations seem to have gone.
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Long time ago.Now all trains maximum length and tonnage.I drive this corridor it is interesting to watch your videos
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@interceptor7905 Yes, unfortunately. Railways tend to become less and less interesting in some directions. Glad you like my videos. If you ever want to be a discrete participant…
@interceptor7905
3 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Yeah why not
@tressteleg1
3 ай бұрын
@@interceptor7905 Please email me using tressteleg(at)icloud.com Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
Where is this?
@tressteleg1
4 жыл бұрын
If you mean the whole video, on Queensland Rail, and north of Brisbane Australia. Track gauge 3’ 6” or 1067mm.
I thought the ICE couldn't do more than 120, or was it going down a hill, or am I just wrong...
@tressteleg1
6 жыл бұрын
It probably was just 120. The Tilt Train is (?was) 160. Other Electrics in daily life can do 130 and 140 km/h.
@Jerram89
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that the ice was good for 160, but limited officially to 120. Of course in real life the limit was only the lower of what the driver wanted to do or the speed at which the ATC/ATP gave you a penalty, as attested to here.