Excellent as usual, Thanks Kelvin for a great comparison and amp selections

I love your sincere way of doing these reviews. It shows that you are doing this for pleasure, not money or some biscuits. Thank you!

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I really like biscuits and will accept them as bribes

Kelvin, enjoyed your video as usual. Your analysis for the 3 speakers sounded spot on. Stick with the vintage gear! Keeping telling us about it cause it’s worth hearing about. It goes with the Lava lamp 😎.

I appreciate your way of talking about sound. We‘ve got some QA 3020 in the kitchen and there they do a great job.

Good review, thanks. I owned the original 3020's when they came out and liked them until I added a Dali E9-F sub and then I loved them. They can't fill a big room though, so I upgraded when I moved house. Highly recommend that sub with those speakers though.

Interesting review mate and refreshing too as these magazines really do varnish the sound of these speakers reviewed these days! I agree with you the vintage stuff...well most of it is so pure and mega bargains are to be had! Like my home made Celestion speakers with 4 drivers in each cabinet l picked up recently and bought for only £26...crazy!!!

Hi Kelvin, love these reviews, nice that you did that comparison towards the end to say what you would recommend for the price range of those speakers if you wanted something that sounded better. Would be interesting to know if you have specific examples of speakers you would by instead of these but in their price range, for different size rooms?

Most bookshelf speakers have small cabinets lacking bass. Not sure how you feel about subwoofers but I believe adding a sub and blending in with your main speakers (at the right frequency so the sub isn't producing excessive bass) is a good idea. My solution was to buy the cheapest pair you have here, the 3020's and buy an entry level BK Gemini sub. Great results. Also I was convinced the 3020's were average speakers until I corrected my set up. That involved moving some furniture around to give the speakers more space, angling the speakers slightly inward towards the centre and moving them away from the wall. Now I honestly think they are fantastic for the money. Its always worth reading the manual, Q Acoustics offers pretty good advice on soundstage and bass in particular. insert the bungs in rear port to avoid boomy bass when speakers are set against the wall, move speakers closer together for better mid bass coupling, or even buy Q Acoustics 30 series subwoofer to go with the speakers. I've found experimenting with set up goes a long way! Your conclusion doesn't surprise me that the 3020's (the cheapest!) Win. When i auditioned a pair by Cambridge, the Q Acoustics won by a long way.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you’re right tweaking Speakers location can change the whole presentation people don’t think enough about this

@totalplonker824

3 жыл бұрын

I have my Q acoustics 3020is hooked-up with my REL ti series high performance subwoofer and the sound is so pleasing that I'm able to listen to my speakers all day long! I just wish I could say the same for my KEFF ls50 s

@lesgl

Ай бұрын

Same..i have a Sansui sub on the ,Q Acoustics 2020i's and sounds great..tons of bass

Another superb video, thank you Kelvin.

Kevin so relieved my rig passed with flying colors your sound test of the sweetest decline. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks Kelvin, great as always. I have an idea for a future video: comparing some full range speakers. Over the last year, I’ve really got into full range speakers; to be honest, I get most pleasure out of them and I’ve really gone off conventional speakers with their various drivers and tweeters. However, I think these are overlooked by a lot of people. Would be interested to hear what you think!

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

If I can I will

Hi Kelvin. Recently found your channel and love it. I work on and restore a lot of the vintage speakers you've mentioned and shown in recent videos. Cant help but think something's were better back in the day. Take care. Keep up the good work. Matt

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt good to hear your comments because sometimes even I do wonder what’s going on. K

Thanks for the videos I'm learning loads!!!👍👍

I love listening to this guy accurate info no sales talk just the truth Thanks

Your reviews are for humans and for mature audiophiles . Thank you mate! Was really surprised though with the results here honestly ... Haven't listen to them and I was expecting AE100 to have the best midrange !! I trust you cause you have them there of course ...

@andrewbrazier9664

2 жыл бұрын

Reviews & what I've been told by a hi fi dealer suggest although bass light the AE300 has very good midrange ,good for jazz & classical . However they retail for £600 Uk

Since I posted my last comments 2 years ago I have been using these Elacs for garage duty whenever I was out there working, not really paying attention to how they sounded. I recently gave my daughter my old PC speakers and decided use the Elacs with an old Yamaha MX-830 power amp hooked directly up to my PC. I honestly wasn't expecting much, a decent sound but nothing special. I am now absolutely enamoured with these speakers. They completely transformed with a solid year of burn in. They are so transparent I can hear details I didn't think was possible from these speakers. I am hearing distinct layering of instruments within the soundstage which also has very good scale for a bookshelf. The dynamics are really surprising me for a small speaker, they can scare you. I even find these speaker very revealing which I always thought they were veiled. All week when at work all I can think about is listening to these speakers and how wrong I was. I can't say for certain why the radical transformation in the sound happened but I have a few theories. These have been played steady and hard in my garage. I had about 100 hours on them before I moved them to the garage, but maybe further burn in opened them up. I read these speakers have a very long burn in time. I am also using well isolated stands but have tried them before on the same stands with poor results. I have used many high end amps on these speakers with poor results, but maybe they pair really well with my hybrid class A Yamaha. I am enjoying this second system right now as much as my 30k system.

Hey Kevin, great channel. Do you have any knowledge on vintage Luxman Pre & Power Amp combos?

Kevin such a smooth talker, would love have a cold beer and talk audio with you.Keep it up.

@LeoRousseau

3 жыл бұрын

I always say the same thing to myself. Great genuine human being! I love good people!

@matc6221

3 жыл бұрын

I concur 👌🏼

@RobertDoyle1

3 жыл бұрын

Was just thinking the same. Have a pint or three and listen to music.

@benjaminqilafku5714

3 жыл бұрын

@David Mander Odd your comment......

Got the elac 6.2 few months ago listening with them on stands they are bright and sound rough went the volume is turned up,

Hi Kelvin, Really enjoying your reviews as ever. Can you do something with subwoofers and how they integrate with smaller speakers like these to see if that makes smaller speakers viable?

this video is 2 years old, what is, today, your speaker recommendation for near field (2 feet) low volume listening in a desktop setup under $300 ? thanks

Kelvin, Brilliant review .. I have an opportunity to swap my Tannoy Mercury M3’s for a pair of Q Acoustics 3020 (again not the i version) .. Am I nuts or is it at least fair from a price perspective? Note: My room is small to medium, less than optimal shape, and I have neighbours. The Tannoys are a bit ‘muscular’ for my needs. I’d really appreciate your perspective. Many thanks in advance ..

Another good review all the very best.

Kelvin, would you have any advice for speaker options? I'm looking for speakers that provide warmth and space. Been watching your channel and others and so far I have bought a NAD 3020A amp and an Arcam Alpha 7SE CD player. Thank you for your reviews - they've been instrumental (hah) in my purchases.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Well it’s hard for me to say what speakers there is different room sizes so many different things to consider. The NAD is a Smoove amp even speakers with a brash top end will be tamed by that amp. Sorry I don’t have any specific advice but don’t go too small that’s never fun K I

@drewmcwilliams

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx Thanks, Kelvin. Starting with some Kef Cresta 2s from eBay I got for a bargain. Going to buy some others from time-to-time and rotate. I'm in love with this NAD.

Great to see you review more modern speakers, Kelvin, and it's also nice to see that nobody is reinventing the wheel, for us vintage hifi lovers. I've tried the Q Acoustics, and was really underwhelmed after reading such good things, sadly. I'd much rather listen to my Kef Coda 7's, which i would love to see you review, and best of all you can pick a pair up for 50 quid. They to me are a real sleeper of a speaker, and yes, they are a plastic fronted box as opposed to a lovely veneered and polished box, but for the money, they give you massive bang for your buck, and take up minimal room. .. Barry.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have heard the coders at a friends house and I remember thinking they’re just getting it right K

What is your opinion on acoustic research speakers, particularly their most popular speakers the AR18 and AR18s?

@volt7cooltangs701

3 жыл бұрын

You the AR18s from 1982 were really good. A had a pair. The foam woofer surrounds degrade over the decades. Can be repaired.

Hi Kevin, now I'm in an audio pickle and hoping your experienced ear and knowledge can help. I have a very humble HiFi combination, bought in 2021. A Pioneer A107 and Gale Gold Monitors MK 2 (front facing sub-woofers). Recently I've been thinking about getting new speakers and was considering the Q Acoustics 3020. But I'm wondering. Would they be an upgrade on my bargain basement Gales? What do reckon?

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Well I’ve got to say I don’t know the answer to this if I had to guess I’d say the 3020s would sound a bit better but I don’t know enough to be sure

@aynoneemooz4146

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx Kevin, thanks for your reply. I understand, so many variables.

Hi Kelvin. The stand out moment for me in this review was your announcement that the Naim power amp was bettered. I’ve been singing this from the roof tops for years about Naim amps. I’ve just never ever got it with Naim sound. I’ve heard everything from the Nait to their top of the line and they’ve always left me cold and thinking “I just don’t like this”.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it’s a bit of a funny business really isn’t it This naim

Do you then know any budget speaker that not only you could live with, but enjoy using it daily?

Hey mate , great reviews and hints .. just asking whats your thoughts on the dali spektor 2 bookshelf speakers with a mid 70s 30watt amp please..

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t rightly know about the Dali spectre A 70s amp won’t be a problem He probably has more power than the 30 W stated I should say I just kind of think smallish modern speakers very polite sounding they are it’s fine but it’s not great fun or excitement K

@jamielazell1760

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx thank you for your reply very much appreciated.. I will have think about those speakers..

Can you do a review of the q acoustics 3010i with the rel 5ti sub woofer Thanks

I love my Elac's they were 400$ cad great units

I have the Q Acoustic 2010i in my study/den so comparable to the 3020, its a small room so anything bigger would cause irritation to my wife downstairs, you have to consider speaker size to the room. I also have Acoustic Energy Evo floorstanders as my main speakers in my living room, huge scale on those but being a much bigger room I can let them rip. The Evo's could be described as smooth and full bodied but I love the midrange, vocals are a real strength at the expense of some bass tightness. But at least they do one thing right, right? I auditioned the Evo's against some B&W speakers and the bright top end irritated me no end.

Thanks to arriving to the present time. 👍 Take care!

Have you ever heard B&W 601’s? And what speaker would you recommend for under $1000?

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I just can’t do the speaker recommendation thing there’s too many issues to account for sorry

If you ever get a chance to pick up a pair of Infinity interlude Il10 speakers you should review them. Great bookshelf speakers.

"I could have it on and not be annoyed" 🤣🤣🤣. Great honest review

hi what watts speakers would suit the nad 3130,and can you use a EQ with this amp thanks.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

yes you can use an equaliser its hard to say about speakers ,I am going to say bigger is better cheersK

You are The Real audiophiliac!! You have my respect sir

@stereoreviewx

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John appreciate that

I recently put some old altec model 3, twoway speakers with 10"ticonal paperconed bassmid and cone tweeter, well i cannot stop listeling to these jewels !!! The are one of the best speakers i had here, at any pricepoint....you can buy them cheap...thry them you will be stunned

Wow K A brutally honest assessment (as always). I only got my Q3020i speakers last week as a part of a bundled deal along with a Marantz PM 6007 amp. At least you said they were they least annoying of the 3 speakers reviewed HaHa. So far I'm pleased with the quality of sound mine produce. Yes the bass isn't that punchy but I'm happy overall with how they perform. My set up is in a box bedroom home office so I am not looking to fill a vast space and I primarily listen to Radio 3 / Radio 6 via a Teac T-R650DAB Tuner plus some streaming. The Q3020i have replaced a pair of TDL RTL2 speakers I've had since circa 1993-4. I was thinking of selling them but as I now recognise should I relocate my Hi-Fi to a larger space I will need a bigger set of speakers again. As the TDL's are in full working order and no longer available I'm now thinking of keeping them. They have attracted a lot of interest on Facebook but not offers - probably because I put them up as no offers / fixed price. Keep up the good work - love the channel and the variety of topics and kit you cover. PS any views on the Marantz PM 6007 or should I not ask LOL

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Ha yeah just don’t know about the Marantz might be fantastic

@ianbrunt2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx There's a satisfying clunk when it powers on. Always a good start 👍 It's replaced a Technics amp from 1989 so if it lasts as long it will see me out 😮

@spacehopper77

3 жыл бұрын

Although Kelvin reviewed the Q3020 which are not the same as your Q3020i. The newer “i” are better all round speakers in particular the treble sparkle and bass detail.

What do you think of the Denon DM41?

Good review. You just can't beat the ear when making direct comparisons between speakers, or for that matter, other hi-fi gear.

i am still using my old trusty wharfedale delta 30s from 1989 with a pc streaming set up using a fosi audio bt20a.its sounds pretty decent but i wanted to upgrade the speakers if i could hear some improvement.i did try the jbl speakers but found them quite clinical sounding.i am wondering if i can snap up some kind of vintage speaker which will be an improvement.

@stereoreviewx

Жыл бұрын

Well off the top of my head Bowers and Wilkins DM fours are speakers I always go back to

@ianpearson8976

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx thank you.

Hi mate any chance you could do a review of the entry level Cambridge Audio floorstanders SX-80 ?? Cheers.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll try

@marksolstafir

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx Btw, I have moved to odysee, Kelvin. See you there one day mate.

Pleased the Qs performed well as I recommended much bigger floor-standers to a friend recently. They cost NZ$1000

Oi mate, love your videos. I was wondering, what about giving your viewers a little taste of the gear you review by playing some copyright-free music? You'll find plenty of that on youtube. You have a good one & keep up the good work.

Ok, so I bought the Beth Orton CD to try the track ‘Sweetest Decline’ you recommended on my hifi. Good news, sounded amazing, lots of dimension and detailed mids, could place every instrument, no shrill, nice highs, good multidimensional bass, well balanced, not boring or muddy, full of energy. Bad news, I have no excuse to tell the mrs that I need to buy new equipment. 😂 Set up was, source Marantz CD63 II KI signature, Amplification Pioneer SX-1250 & Speakers Kef Q55.2. I wish you could listen to it and give me your expert opinion. 😀

Tapping the woofer cones, and the sound derived therein, tells you more about the solidity of the cabinet construction - in particular the bracing - and very little about how the speaker is going to perform once it's reacting and pushing air!!

@stereoreviewx

2 жыл бұрын

Well add tap the cabinet to know about the cabinet but I really do think the material matters

Great honest review. 👌

Which pair of speakers would you recommend for a Sansui AU-101 nothing too big in size. Thank you sir.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Such a lovely lively Amp I mean Small is never that good unless you have a ton of money . It’s too big a subject really but it wants to be a lively responsive speaker even the new Q 3020 I think that might sound nice if it’s vintage I’ll be looking For a paper-based cone not a slow black plastic one say monitor audio 352 springs to mind good luck cheers K

@madmantronixx7998

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx I am currently looking at the B&W DM4 and the Celestion Ditton 15XR thanks mate

I looked at the Elac 2.0 but brought the Wharfedale 10.1 and love them. What are your thoughts? I have them connected to a NAD 3030 which sounds great off a Arcam 24bit CD player or Technics turntable.

@ok5563

3 жыл бұрын

good for you mate.. ihave 11.1 & 11.2 whatfedale looking and sound sweet to my ears pair them with NAD amp and NAD cd player .. i like nad cd player than my previous rotel cd player.. i suggest to you try some NAD cd player as mine..

@darrensworkshop6783

3 жыл бұрын

@@ok5563 I think the CD player is fine and one of the components I'll stick with for a while. I need to upgrade my basic Technics to the 1500C next or go for a good older one - not sure which way to go?

I think the problem with many small speakers is they are trying to punch above their size with the bass. I had the same problem with a set of KEF Cresta 10's. It muds the mids. Q-acoustics seems to have gotten it more right. You could probably use them with a sub. Most of these small speakers are really designed to be rear surrounds in a home cinema set-up, where the bass probably would not be in the equation for directional sound. But in a stereo setup it's just too much. leave it to a sub or get bigger speakers. The Sansui I got 331 is great btw. real smooth. Very good base response. Alicia Keys almost killed it already when she came on after a classical piece. It didn't like the sudden booms and started crackling. Luckily it went away again.

Regarding country music recordings; I've also noticed the production is often excellent and some of the sparse arrangements really shine thru a nice system.

The elacs I found hearing a mates they sound a bit processed and bass sounded a bit rigid compared to my dm602s. One album I like to test on my system is ladies Bridge richard hawley

I'm happy to see you testing different eras of equipment. I think a lot of us do the same

Given its price performance ratio anf also given that the Elac Debut 2.0 - as I assume - was probably designed and marketed way after 9/11 proof that progress in hi fi loudspeaker design had been moving sideways since the late 1990s? 🤔 If the said Elacs were retailed under 100 quid brand new, my opinion would have been different.

Interesting! Been watching your channel for a while now. The Q Acoustic 3020's had a lot of respect in around 2016, until Mission (both part of the IAG group) made a come-back with their LX-2's (same price bkshelfs), that were 2 years in development, and have good mid range and bass, have a lot of positive words everywhere I have looked. I would love to hear your opinions, if you ever come across some! Cheers :D

@AmbientWanderer

Жыл бұрын

hi Man, i know this is an old cment, but I own the Q acoustics 2020i's and i've just ordered a pair o LX2's to compare which will arrive tommorrow, so i will update you with my thoughts between thw two. But this reviewer is certainly right, the Q's do lack bass and are far more midrange focused.

@matc6221

Жыл бұрын

@@AmbientWanderer I hope you like them! 😉

@AmbientWanderer

Жыл бұрын

@@matc6221 Have you heard the Missions yet? I bought mine secondhand, so if i don't like them i can always sell them on for the same price. Win win

@matc6221

Жыл бұрын

@@AmbientWanderer oh that's good. Yes I have them. There is a good 2017 review from a Richer Sounds employee (Ed Steely) '' We're on a Mission Again" on the avforums, who tests them after listening to a pair of PMC's worth £1870 and implyed the were not hugely different. I find them very balanced with good bass, not excessive, but good and solid. And a nice open sound with good mids. Not thunder bass but find your bassist track and see. Also these speakers change in sound by every inch or so of movement. So experiment a bit with positioning. The instructions should be on the mission site if they come without them. I have have mission stands too because of the inverted cones. Just to be on the safe side for correct highth, which is 23in from floor to the top plate (bottom of speaker) so you know that's the height they are designed to operate.

@AmbientWanderer

Жыл бұрын

@@matc6221 thanks man. I've just read that review. Sounds very promising. I'm glad you've been enjoying them. Just out of interest, what amplifier are you using to drive them?

Did you break in the Elacs before the listening test?

@stereoreviewx

2 жыл бұрын

I still don’t like them I’ll keep trying them I still don’t like them

The Elac sound good

I know you mean business when you have a Lava Lamp in the video. Nice 👍🏼

@stereoreviewx

5 ай бұрын

You know it

I think older kit is much better and reliable, I run a yamaha ax396 with b&w dm602s and I was amazed how detailed the yamaha is. It would be interesting to see a speaker comparison from speakers from the 80s and 90s/00s

This is interesting. If a person is fed McDonald's all his life. Then THAT is the taste of a burger.. The same if someone is brought up with only listening on LP/CD/streaming. Then that one is USED that it should sound like that (preferences). The same if someone is brought up and only listening to vintage speakers that usually have same character like paper cone and so on. It can be that someone can get "stuck" in a sound preferences.. But the savior is IF it sounds like real instruments and not how someone have learned or thinks that how it sounds because of its many years of listening to colored sound and developed a bias. So maybe a comparison between the actual instruments or to go out and listening on live music may result that we end closer towards a consensus 🎶 Thanks for your review 😉😍

Regarding the elac 6.2 I was wondering if you gave them a good break in as I've heard the sound improves. I got mine preowned so dont know what they sounded like new. I am not in love with them and will most likely sell them at some point. It would have been interesting to hear your take on the original b6, quite different from the 6.2. I do believe based on all the reviews I've heard that the elacs do sound better as you scale up in cost, which they should. Not sure if you listen at higher SPL but a lot of air moves through the port on those little elac's . There were times I thought there was an electric fan in the room.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I rang the main actually left them on when I was out you know it’s not that. And I’m not saying that all Elax are bad and I would doubt that very much. K

@tomhamilton6377

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx I've heard they cost a bit more in the UK than here in the USA

Excellent

For the same money as the Q Acoustics, you can buy Monitor Audio Bonze 1 and they sound really good

Too bad you couldn't get your hands on the original AE1 bookshelf speakers. Personally I've never heard a pair but they are supposedly *Legendary* .

completely agree, better off saving money for something a little better.

What do you think of the Rotel RA350..

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Not familiar I’m afraid

@darron51

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx try one pal, you’ll be pleasantly surprised, if you can find a decent Recapped 1 👍

Another oldie but goodie...Good audiophile test must for percussion section lovers Michael Brecker Tales from the hudson.

I've heard good things about the AE 100 Mk2 -- around 270 GBP but $500 (!) in the US

@stereoreviewx

Жыл бұрын

Something I’ve noticed there’s loads of these cheap speakers look like they have the same Tweeter

I also feel something missing on the Elac debut 2.0 midrange, just not pleasant, also the high frequencies are not there.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree

@viktor1212us

3 жыл бұрын

same for me,dull sound and i got that feeling like that tweeter play only to 14khz ,totally different from read on the net,real disappointment for me.

Thanks Kelvin, great as always! You are so right! I know the sound of the 3 Speakers you talk about here. Most of the new (cheaper) speakers I tested the last years were disoppointing. I had the Monitor Audio Bronze 2 here for the last 4 days. They also couldn't reach my heart. Like you say, they don't sing, voices are not in my room and so on. These speakers also do nothing quite wrong but they don't do something really good. It's bad, but even if you spent much more money for current speakers the result is often not better.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I think I agree with you it’s just odd how things just don’t get better and better cars I’ve got better TVs have got better K

@AmbientWanderer

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx Many reviewers these days will tell their audience that speakers these days have improved and are better than vintange gear, but that is no suprise given the fact that theýre being paid to review new gear by the speakers manufacturers.

do speakers that have ports still have wadding in them?

@edwardbalboa5528

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf

@ianbrunt2322

3 жыл бұрын

The Q 3020i I got last week have a port and are supplied with 'wadding' but I've not bothered with it yet. I'm still reeling from K's review of the Q 3020. I hope that the 'i' would get a better review lol

@richardsinger01

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianbrunt2322 at least you can be pleased that the q3020 was the best of the trio here. Maybe the i adds something good.

@thomasstone1363

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianbrunt2322 those are bungs so that you can tame the bass in small rooms if you have to have the speakers right up against a wall :) The wadding he refers to is inside the cabinet which reduces internal resonances. I hope you enjoy your 3020i's, they are slightly better than the 3020s Kelvin reviews here.

@thomasstone1363

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Nik, ported speakers do indeed have wadding, although with budget speakers like these it may be omitted to reduce production costs. Quite often a cheap ported speaker can be enhanced by increasing the internal wadding

any of those speakers will sound much bigger with a subwoofer on board, big bass is what gives scale to any speaker (big words coming from a layman 😅); what do you mean by "magic in the top end"? I hope it isn't extreme brightness, the kind that pierces ears.

I've got the 3020's combined with the budget wharfedale sw150 sub.....though it's going to be supplanted by some wharfedale Evo 4.2's within the month. The Q acoustics just can't do complex loud music, great with folk and spacious music but fall apart when you try to do metal or busy pop Need to sell a couple of guitars and amps to raise the £599 though lol

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes small is small there are limitations good comments thanks K

@DomRivers67

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx Doesn't actually stop them being great speakers mind, they are £125 or slightly less at the moment which is frankly a bit of a steal, but, as you intimate, you can't expect too much of them, especially at volume. I'm going to keep mine as the front end of a kitchen system with a Denon DM41, put them out to pasture where they can play 80's hits quietly while we cook lol. I'd love it if you could get a couple of these Wharfedales for test, especially the Evo 4.2 and 4.1. I'd like to see a few tests of the "forgotten era" hi fi speakers....the 80's and 90's, I remember great things from the Mordaunt Short MS Pearl series (MS20i etc), Kef Coda's, TDL RTL2....all those speakers from the last days of genuine British ownership. They are cheap as chips nowadays.....and I'd really like my Mordaunt Short MS20i Pearls back....I recall them kicking the music out.

@ianbrunt2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@DomRivers67 here's a second vote for review if the TDL RTL2 👍 had my pair since circa 1993-4. Bought on recommendation by someone who knew his stuff back in the day. Still going strong but currently mothballed. Can't believe I was thinking of sell them recently. Thankfully came to my senses 🙂

@AmbientWanderer

Жыл бұрын

@Dominic Rivers I own the Q acoustics 2020i's and what you said is 100 % correct. I've always enjoyed listening to slower acoustics music on them, but always found they sounded pretty sub-par as soon as you throw somethng more complex at them. I no own the Mission Lx2's and i have to say they sound better in pretty much every department.

I have been suspicious for a long time about the claims that modern speakers are technically so much more advanced than (good) vintage speakers. With a few exceptions, I can't see where that could be coming from. So consider these reviews truthful.

Take off the tweeter grill the sound has better top end and they also look better

I would invest a bit more and buy the Q Acoustics 3030i because for my ears they sound much better than their little sister

@stereoreviewx

Жыл бұрын

Yes well bigger is normally better I guess it’s the same tweeter yes

@MrJueKa

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx bass unit 5" (3020) to 6.5" (3030i)

I like your honesty and passion, but it would be far more interesting if you could show how you had them all set up because all speakers do not sound equal in one position. For example, one might sound way better firing straight ahead, one might sound better well toed in, closer together etc. Some manufacturers design their speakers to sound best off axis, some don’t. How much time do you spend tuning each speaker in your room or do you simply place them all in the exact same position? What about showing the manufacturers recommended placement for each speaker. The reason I think this is important is because from my own experience I know placement can be so important in extracting the best sound for a given speaker and no two speakers will ever interact with your room in exactly the same way. So sometimes good speakers sound bad due to poor set up and vice versa. I would never say any speaker sounds good or bad without adding “in this room” or “in my room” because in someone else’s room I can pretty much guarantee they will sound completely different. So adding your room dimensions, toe in, placement would be useful to put things into greater context.

All of his videos are good I really like them but if he says yea one more time I am going to scream.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

I have never said it

@volt7cooltangs701

3 жыл бұрын

I love his yeahs

Are you getting my comments I did leave your comment about the elac sounds like the polarity of the drivers are not correct, what you're saying sounds like a phase issue! something's not right there they should sound fine you never reply to my comment so I don't know let me know if anybody sees this comment

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John I’m not aware of not responding to you I certainly saw this one When you say out of phase maybe I might just try reversing the polarity on the terminals at the back Is that what you mean or check the drivers polarity K

@johnsweda2999

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx yeah you could try that way but yeah polarity of the driver could be the issue! when you play the speakers individually with a mono signal do they both sound the same? try playing them individually switching between the two see if there's any difference it would only be subtle when individually played are they bi-terminal

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I might just open them up and check it against any photos I can find cheers K

@johnsweda2999

3 жыл бұрын

@@stereoreviewx photos is not going to tell you polarity of the driver you need a battery end a multimeter

These speakers are made for people who are new to the hobby probably listened music from the headphones on computers or portable devices or Bluetooth speakers and want their first leg in the hi fi world. I imagine they will be very happy with the upgrade. Kevin is a very seasoned listener and more sophisticated then that category.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes well I’ll say thanks for that comment interestingly when I was younger they were always encouraging this upgrade upgrade upgrade business and I know people do it like that but God save a lot of money if they just went straight in for 1 g one good pair of speakers instead of three I can’t talk I’ve got 15 of each

I have the Q acoustic 3020i in my kitchen system driven by a Marantz KI signature Amp. They sound great. Those ELAC,s look pig ugly like something from the 70s

@stereoreviewx

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and those Elax look better than they sound

New video!!!!

I admire your attempt to be enthusiastic about these 3 duffers. I sent you an email about some Sony gear. Did you receive it? Best Dave

Hi Greetings from Serbia , look m8 i like you dont take this as a critique , but you are mistaken about a lot of what you say , i dont mean to offend but take a Reference Measuring microphone , they are cheap 50 pound or around , even less . Then measure it . You will see how you were wrong and where you were wrong , just like i did , did it found out how little i can hear when i dont know what to listen for . Everyone can notice tiny differences if there is a possibility to do A/B , and B being a 100% flat sound , but we dont have that , so what we have is Reference microphone , so we can use that . And then you can progress further , its liek a tool , in any business one needs tools , a map to know where he is , you know . And if you neglect that you will be at a loss , no 2 ways about it . And im nto saying Reference Mic will tall you everything correctly , but it doesnt have to , but it will for example tell witch of those 3 has best bass , or mids or highs , you know If you would do it like that i would trust you more . I trust you as it is , i trust that you think what you say honestly , but its 50% of time wrong , its a mistake ,a correctable mistake .

And you weren't even tempted to pair the QA 3020 with a NAD 3020? Clearly you don't suffer from OCD.

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Well now you said that

Why don't you ever demo the products working. I know it's not a true representation but you can get a good idea

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I’m planning it

FuK YeaH

Funny I feel exactly the same way about the Elacs and you do. No offensive in any way, just not great in anyway. Really pretty boring.

Are you kidding!!! Where are your ears man??? I cannot speak of the Q or the Elac but the AE is outstanding when used with good or excellent electronics. However, they do require stands and a sub-woofer. The mid-range and treble are impressive for something in the budget range...they disappear in your room and also amazing for video. Check out other favorable reviews online!

Jeez, if you cut your arms off, you couldn't speak. Man can you waffle on.... Yeah!

It's not uncommon for soft dome tweeters to look alike

elac and monitor audio bookshelves are the most Shrill and boring sounding speakers ive ever heard

@stereoreviewx

3 жыл бұрын

I can only agree with that 100% K