A thought that was a power cord. I've never seen an air start before

@airtech9908

7 жыл бұрын

+LogoSeven check inertial starter kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2pom9R9h9PVd5c.html it makes sounds like in looney toons cartoons wih road runner and coyote :)

@CACTUS48

6 жыл бұрын

I am retired now, learned to fly went going to college, after I got out of the Marines, flew single engine Pipers around, owned a Piper 79 Archer and 82 Tomahawk.

@bobl78

6 жыл бұрын

and what if it dies in the air and needs to be restarted ?

@aleksandersuur9475

6 жыл бұрын

+bobl78 It has internal air tank and when the motor is running it tops itself off. They don't normally have to use an external tank, in this case maybe the tank was on the empty side from long storage or uncooperative engine just consumed all the air.

@travisk5589

6 жыл бұрын

CACTUS48 What does that into have to do with anything?

Wilga is the Polish name of the bird golden oriole. PZL 104 Wilga was constructed in 1960, with first flight in 24 April 1962. Three engines were used in the Wilga: 1) russian radial AI-14R, 2)Continental O-470 and at the end of production Turbo Prop 3) Lycoming IO-720. In 2001, the company PZL became part of the EADS Group (EADS Casa, currently Airbus Military). In 2008 the last aircraft PZL 104MN was produced.

Love the sound of those radial engines!!

Awesome vortex of the prop! love seeing that in cold temperatures.

I love the Wilga, it's such an odd design, like a flying ice cream cone with knees.

@TFWS6

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha true!

@fromaggiovagiola9128

4 жыл бұрын

Check out Draco. You are welcome.

@dwightstjohn6927

4 жыл бұрын

@@fromaggiovagiola9128 are both licensed designs belonging to some one else??? they're so similar. like the physics involved. makes sense.

@Krzemieniewski1

4 жыл бұрын

@@dwightstjohn6927 draco is based on wilga. Purpose was to fit powerful turbine engine 650 hp instead of oryginal piston one. Also wilga was mass produced in factory and Draco is custom made.

@muhammadanassiddiki5753

Жыл бұрын

I find it like a Dragon fly !

You had to remove spark plugs and then spin propeller to clean cylinders from oil and petrol. It's happens with radial engines due to oil in the lower cylinders. Lucky for you, that you avoid hydro strike. Also it's good idea to change oil in this type of engines after long stop.

@airtech9908

5 жыл бұрын

All that was made before atempt :))) This one is just stubborn 😀

j' Adore ce petit Wilga, voyant un long et encourageant démarrage bien sur! j' En ai vu un qui remorquais des planeurs en France! Merci pour le partage, un abonné français...

The first 4 minutes are really exciting.

Wow! I like the sound of this engine, seems very smooth & balanced well. Very quiet. I'd like to see it perform.

@Justwantahover

5 жыл бұрын

+Bobby It's got a muffler, most planes don't, and you know how much louder leaky mufflers are with cars.

@heinzketchup3323

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been around a Wilga that had quite a loud engine :D

That plane looks beautiful and awesome.

beauty of having a variable pitch prop, you can rev the engine right up without producing thrust if you want too

The humble Wilma is what God flys when he takes time off to fly fish in distant locations. Once you fly one, nothing else will ever measure up.

Fantastic Video,Fantastic Sound...Liked

@user-hu4js8dy8p

6 жыл бұрын

Global 5000 ككظز 👞👞👟👔ضجج

Yes,most of the eastern bloc airplanes with gasoline engines used air starters, sounds like an air drill. I fly a Yak-52 occasionally and it has an air starter. Look on KZread for yak-52 engine startup.

That engine is spinning clockwise !! Never seen that before !!

@zmyslowykalosz

4 жыл бұрын

@Bla Bla you don't feel those forces that much, you just try to stay on the middle of the runway while taking off and to fly with your wings horizontally, that's all what matters

The Wilga PZL 35 is an extraordinary plane, extrem taildragger, Ringelpietz normal, nearly vstol, landing against the wind im Notfall über 40 Knoten auch quer zur Bahn, landen wie ein Hubschrauber. Ein geiles Gerät: D-EDDG

Engines in the background rev in encouragement...

What an amazing looking machine. I want one

@rogerdeane3608

3 жыл бұрын

Would you like one that starts???

The start up attempts made me clinch my jaws so hard they hurt

Excellent film footage and sound.

What a look of this plane amazing

I'm seeing Basil Fawlty sitting in the cockpit shouting "Start you vicious bastard" ! Right! now you're going to get a damned good thrashing "

PZL-104 Wilga, rare variant called 80. Goraszka airfield, EPGO, good old days: not on the map anymore. Sebastian in controls, technician Boguś in service… best guys in class.

God I love listening to radial engines. I could listen to a radial engine read the phone book ;)

Remindd me of the start scene in flight of the phoenix:)

It gets interesting at 03:05

They should have taken out the lower spark plugs and spun the engine through to expell some of the oil that was built up in there. It would have started much easier. Also should have used more primer fuel. Air starter was clearly gummed up with old oil.

It needs some “ Start ya Bastard” spray.

At the Air Force Museum at Dayton, Ohio, I saw a 1930s service truck, with a power take-off apparently used to start the prop planes of that era.... could come in useful even today....

I have fired a many P&W on our DC-3 hot, cold but if you don't have a good knowledge of radial engines. You'll find this same ordeal. But pretty cool aircraft.

With such Wilga we had the flight times of exactly 3.5 min counting from the start with a glider on the tow...going up to 300 m, "falling down" and landing. Have not seen other towing plane which could be so quick.

Give it a good spray of starting fluid!

@airtech9908

7 жыл бұрын

+Osprexx Or a push:)

khaerul mana likenya 😃😃

Awesome plane ✈️

It´s a great plane, we use it for aero-towing gliders up to the sky. Pay me a vsit and look

Najlepszy samolot na świecie !

Mike should buy this and make it DRACO 2 again!!

Flew in one of these at a glider field in Latvia back in 1990. It was just a grass strip ,but there was a Mig 21 parked off to the side( pilot got lost?). It was a nice little flight - over the ruins of the Cesis castle. Certainly remains the smallest aircraft I've ever flown in!

A radial engine is like a beautiful woman. She wants to sleep with you, but doesn’t want to seem too loose and easy. That's why radials are always stubborn. As for the plane, that’s a goofy-looking machine, kind of like a giant insect.

Вильга любит когда руками винт ей накручивают. С первой попытки запуск не получился - вылез, винт покрутил, цилиндры продул и со второго раза запускается уже без проблем, правда иногда надо шприцём поддержать

There’s just something cool about this plane.

@60viking

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I like the suspension knuckles up front.

I never saw a plane with a muffler before, seems pretty quiet.

Wow. To dam cool. Thanks for the video. From my hill top in. Sc

I had a yak 52 there is a knack this guy hasn’t got it.

@42Nikolay

5 жыл бұрын

Эээттоо жжеее прибалтыыыы...

If its as hard to kill, as it is to start, I could live with that... :P

@airtech9908

6 жыл бұрын

+De Lord :D

What a beauty !!!

Yes ! The "Wilga" (the polish female name of the bird) it was a plane fully constructed and manufactured by polish aero-engineers I believe in 70's, that means during the communism regime time in Poland. Wilga plane, received a popular name as "Aero-Taxi", because of its capacity for three passengers, and also especially for the short distances for pretty short take-off and also landing. I believe, that even up for today is still in production in Poland, but as a much modernized version of it rather that PZL [104-35]. Fly !! ...~ Wilga ~.... Fly !!

@wojciechwrona1241

5 жыл бұрын

To nasza jedyna udana konstrukcja co lata i jest produkowana. Szkoda że kupuja ją inni a my wybieramy złom Cessna. Nigdy nie słyszałem zeby Wilga sie rozbiła Cessna non stop.

@TheMrgrzegorz220

2 жыл бұрын

Wilga is for oriole, not "female bird". :)

Haven't read most of the comments... however, the puff of smoke at the very beginning says a lot! First, this engine is notorious for oil consumption that today would ground any aircraft. The puff no doubt was a sign that oil most likely accumulated around the spark plug. It happened before fuel ever had a chance to get to the cylinders. It is most likely why the need to enrich the fuel-air mixture was necessary just to clear the fouled plugs. This is NOT an isolated incident. Engines of this type had VLT (very low tolerances unlike even the newer same type versions today. Rule of thumb... like they did back then... the cylinders were cleared and the plugs were then reinstalled. Much easier than destroying a starter on every start up.

@flycubfly

6 жыл бұрын

Bill Yost All radials drain oil to the lower cylinders. Yes, if they accumulate to much then they have to be drained through the plug holes. If there was to much oil in the cylinders at start up , you would get hydraulic lock and bend a connecting rod . A damaged starter really isn’t the issue here, it’s the connecting rods. No matter how well you drain the oil through the rear spark plug hole in all the lower cylinders ,some oil will remain in the cylinder head with the valves . When turning the prop through before each start up to check for hydraulic lock , the valves open and have no choice other than swallow oil .After you clear the cylinders and you do start the engine , you will get smoke , lots of it . Hell, you should see the oil that will spit out the exhaust from what the open valves let in .So all this is normal here . Gee wiz,, what do I know ??? . 17 years of flying Beavers and Otters every day in Alaska helps.

@dbaider9467

6 жыл бұрын

flycubfly, yep.

@GTgyro

6 жыл бұрын

It's a radial, that's what they do. When you start a radial that's been sitting overnight+ you have to rotate the prop to pump the oil out of the bottom cylinders which accumulates normally.

@lowflybye

6 жыл бұрын

A damaged starter is not possible as there is not a starter on these engines...they start with compressed air. You can "crank" all you want until you run out of air, however, if it doesn't start on the first few blades you are wasting air. Stop and figure out what part of the equation is missing / incorrect; fuel, air, or spark.

Spectacular, noisy old things. Great for turning avgas into noise!

Sad that so many non-aviators got recommended this video. The general public doesn't understand.

Poor little airplane! Glad it started!

Nice Co2

Chocks are quite close to that prop!

VERY NICE :) 😂👍👍👍😂👍👍👍

@airtech9908

7 жыл бұрын

+suloja61 Thx :) You may also like this dinosaur: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2pom9R9h9PVd5c.html :D

@suloja61

7 жыл бұрын

:) 😂👍👍👍😂👍👍👍

@lk_xanny_969

5 жыл бұрын

suloja61

This is what you get when you cross a Piper Cub with a horsefly.

Classic plane from Poland.

A pulga voadora !

finally got the cylinders cleared, only took several hours.

Na tym samolocie sie wyszkolilem i zdobylem Licencje Pilota

@kamillkowalski619

5 жыл бұрын

To gratuluję odwagi ,Jak widzę jak on zapala to no chciałbym nim latać.

@Darek80

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamillkowalski619 Silnik był uruchamiany po długim postoju więc należało się spodziewać pewnych trudności. A Wilga to świetny sprzęt jak na epokę z którego jest.

@kamillkowalski619

4 жыл бұрын

@@Darek80 jak się odpala wogule silniki samolotowe?

@samsp1595

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamillkowalski619 Tak jak samochodowe Mieszanka iskrowniki start

Nicely muffled, that plane!

......Awesome......

При запуске поршневого двигателя надо сектором газа шуровать по полной а не сидеть как пенек, инжектора там нет.

I'm glad i'm never getting that six minutes of my life back!

@earldriedger4842

3 жыл бұрын

We can admit it... if we’re watching KZread videos, the 6 minutes wasn’t really that important. 😃

Подача искры на аварийный случай на свечи должна быть одновременно на все целиндра постоянная

Like my friends old Harley Had to start after sitting over night

@johnnybumpous9108

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and skin your shin when it kicks back. Lol

Mantap berkarya

It's good that it happened on ground and not flying.

Dang!!! That's almost like putting a 5.7 Litre with 2 4bbls in a Pinto!!!!

You see smoke then the plugs will be dirty.😂

I was going to say cool little plane but jeez look how long it took to get that thing started remind me some of my first cars

@airtech9908

4 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that this is first startup after winter storage (in unheated hangar).

@willusa2927

4 жыл бұрын

@@airtech9908 did not realize it had been sitting so long cool little plane

Looks like an engine made by a tobacco company, sort of like one of those 1980s six cylinder Volvos...

Did you hand rotate the prop a few cycles before attempting the start .. It gets all the oil moving and might help

If I went to a car after 1 yr or so I wouldn't rush the engine start let alone one of these, probably given it a few more yrs by not rushing things?

Hey! That has a muffler! And what happened to the engine shroud?

I know nothing about aircraft but this looks like a flying engine! Is this an example of how not to start a radial engine??

THIS cranks just like my Harley when it has a dead battery,SLOW,and never starts till its charged again....

Need Morey's fuel & oil additives 👍

I have never heard such a QUIET radial before.. thats incredible. Hearing only the prop?

Good

By the time this thing started i wanted to throw a brick ! Darn ! Good demo though ..

@graemegiles793

4 жыл бұрын

Qhjjp

3:55, thanks

fajna, ile wazy? myslalem zawsze ze wieksza jest;]

Hope you never have to restart while airborn. I think Mike Patey had the right idea... attaching a turbo prop to his Wilga. Seriously though, interesting seeing the original rotary on the plane.

@rocketdawg44

4 жыл бұрын

Radial.

Эфир для запуска должен быть.

so pretty!! i would like to see more like this, have you any more? is it your wilga?

@airtech9908

8 жыл бұрын

+0ojanieo0 search for more of PZL 104 in my chanell :)

@stranraerwal

5 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhh: Pretty ?

Compressed Air start?

They need to do away with the air start system. That's a good size radial. They're temperamental starters anyway. You need good sparks and lots of electrical power to turn over the starter. If you had to get out fast with this- uh, no. Once the engine goes, it's a cool aircraft.

ależeś chłopie rozreklamował ten piękny samolot, nie widziałem na YT niczego podobnego

You should drain the old fuel and start with fresh load!

Отлично заводится, пока заведёшь уже и старость пришла.

You need power and spark. That engine is straining to start. Get a Put Put. If this is an air start engine, you're barking up the wrong tree as it were. Very cool aircraft design.

Fuel consumption: 60-90 l/h :)

Engine needs a rebuild if it's that hard to start

Better hope it starts in the sky! 😂

Sounded sweet as a nut once it cleared its throat. 😎

That engine probably weighs more than the plane it's attached to.

how much rpm of fan ....

I think that's why it's called Aerostart ether 😊

I have 150 hrs P1 on the PZL104 and yes you run out of air if it wont start.

How does an air starting engine work?