I can tell you that vice is a Parkinsons Model F Perfect No 8. An excellent item, the design of which eventually became the Record vice. Probably dates to around 1920.

@stephengibbs4372

Ай бұрын

I grew up using my fathers one and absolutely loved the quick release lever on it , the only one ive ever seen.

Dominic you need to wrap the vice or any object in soft steel wire which can be retained by a piece of wood across the top of the tank. You were correct in cleaning the sacrificial steel electrodes. The electrolyte should still. The vice should have taken about a week to clean in the tank. Keep cleaning the sacrificial electrodes every 24 hours. Electrolysis would have freed the vice without the need for brute force. The vice also needed to have been sat on wood or plastic blocks in the tank, so the current can flow from all surfaces. If the object is too big, then turn the object over in the tank half way through the process, to ensure it gets cleaned evenly.

@gostabergman5062

10 күн бұрын

Should one perhaps use a degreasing bath as well since fat in some form may get inside the mechanism?

You may have spent a bit of money but your vice is still better quality than many on the market.

I swear that's my old vice... I sold it to someone years ago and forgot all about it. Good to see it restored! Good job Dom. Try Evaporust next time. It's not cheap but it gets into every nook and cranny.

I have a deep appreciation, for anyone who truly restores an item. Being it vices, anvils, air guns or actual mistreated firearms. Youre truly saving history from destruction. Yard ornaments, use a dumped over wheelbarrow, with flowers spilled out.

Dom, what did you learn from this, A LOT. A vice of that quality today would cost you a fortune, and you’ve reclaimed one from the scrap heap well done 👍

You look just like the guy on the BBC show, "The Repair Shop." I use electrolysis all of the time on my car restoration. Great tool for eliminating rust.

Love it, love it, love it. Great job on the vice and great video. Brought back memories of touring the Record factory in Sheffield in about 1981 and seeing their Disamatic casting line in action.

I've used exactly your setup for rust removal during many, many restoration projects. Electrolysis is a win-win-win solution for a restorer. It has saved me hours of time, not to mention the cost, of wire brushing, grinding, heating with torches, and banging away with hammers. I haven't had to buy any expensive rust-removal chemicals (or dispose of them when they wear out). I haven't had to use vinegar, salt, or muriatic acid, and have avoided both the cost and the disposal of those corrosive "cleaners." My very first restoration with electyrolysis was exactly the same as yours: a rusted, seized up vise. To carry current to all the parts, I wrapped it tightly in about two meters of bare, #14 copper wire that contacted all parts as much as possible. I sanded to bare metal whenever possible, to enhance the connections, then wired it up to a small DC power supply at 12V and 2 amps. It sat in its bath for a week. Every day I'd skim the brown, foamy crud off the surface. Then I'd turn off the current and reach into the completely non-toxic electrolytic bath to lightly brush the black scum off the anvil and the rust off the sacrificial steel, without any disassembly of the setup or removing the vise. Doing this cleaning took about two minutes a day, and in a week I never had to change the solution or add washing soda; all I had to do was top up the water a few times. The entire process, from setup, through daily quick-cleaning, and to the very end took me less than two hours and cost me USD$5 for washing soda and about USD$3 for electricity. I finally ended the process when all bubbling and scum-formation finally ceased. I removed the vise and cleaned it in warm, soapy water then turned the handle. It was freed up! There was plenty more to be done, but electrolysis was a tremendous labor saver. The hardest part of the process was maintaining my patience. In the end, it was, as I said, a win-win-win solution to rust removal during a restoration. I hope you do more of these.

Dom, science teacher here, remember PANIC (Positive Anode, Negative is Cathode)

@folkdance8508

2 жыл бұрын

Also don't use salt - you'll make chlorine gas which is no fun.

@linseyyoung1772

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one - I'll use that 👍

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

That’s brilliant thank you!

@anthonykinrade8642

Ай бұрын

Some people use owatrol oil on vintage farm machinery including old grey ferguson tractors.

@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-

Ай бұрын

@@linseyyoung1772 The Chlorine Gas?

Nice work. A big old vice like that will literally last for centuries if it's looked after. It's a damned shame when this stuff is left to rust. I like your approach of blacking it up with oil and using it for its intended purpose. The whole flawless painted finish approach is ridiculous on a piece of engineering equipment.

Nice one Dom, a fantastic lesson and I love learning, thank you, regards, Chris. 🍻👍👍👍

It’s an absolute joy to see the vice in full working order now Dom, congratulations 👍🙂

Brilliant, I love to see old things brought back to life. Watching you videos Dom is like having a good time with your mates.

Love it when a project takes a bit of a turn, you always end up learning so much going places you never thought you were gonna go. Looks great and saved from the scrap heap. Well done!

Your knowledge on all this stuff never fails to impress, great job dom

Great job Dom. looking forward to the next one.

I love your enthusiasm and energy, Dom. And I get overexcited and put things together in the wrong order too, so you are not alone. Thanks for sharing, and for your honesty 🌞

Dom, I was planning to do exactly this to four vises. You kept me from spending a lot of money, time and effort. Dissasemble, degrease, electrolysis, wash, polisher, chemical protection, reassemble! Thank you, now I know how to do it correctly.

Great video. Repair Shop got pulled from all streaming services in the US, so I came to You Tube. Glad I found you!

Cracking job as always Dom , looking forward to seeing the next video , All the very best mate 👍

Well done Dom (and your bro'). Glad you got it done by using multiple methods, brute force & informed knowledge. Turned out beautifully and for what it cost, will be a really useful tool for many years to come. I hope that you enjoy it every time you put it to good use.

Great to find a vid about this with someone explaining the ins and outs of the process while they restore something. Thanks.

Brillaint video again Dom, thank for sharing.

Great show - pragmatic, honest, perfect! Real TV at last! You rock!

Well done! Great video mate. Loving the electrolysis content.

Love you're work from New Zealand

A great watch Dom! Was interested to see how it would turn out. I used to work in a small electroplating company a few years back, and have a understanding of the process!

If that's the only vice you have trouble with in your life Dom, you are a lucky man my friend 👍🇬🇧...

Great video Dom, and thank you. It’s good to see these great pieces of engineering being returned to service. It’s not until you have used a good quality vice do you really appreciate it. Your video clearly shows the Achilles heel of the electrolysis technique is the electrolyte needs to wet the surfaces. Works well though!

Always interesting and entertaining Dom, excellent!

A lovely job, nice one Dom.

That was a very interesting video, Dom. Thank you for posting it.

Another great video Dominic,love it keep them coming 😎🤗

I like the alligator clip set up - I've been running plain copper wire and using screw on caps to join the anodes. The clips make more sense!

Thanks for sharing your vice Dom! 😁

I had a vise about the same size as yours, given to me from a friend that's so cheap he squeaks. He never would have given it to me had he thought it salvageable. It resembled a huge chunk of rust. One day I decided to drop it into my tank and give it a go. I ran two chargers, each feeding the plates on half the tank, and I kept swapping out the plates as they'd get too bad. Let them dry, hit them with an abrasive disk, down to bare metal, and then use them again. Anyway, it took about three weeks in the tank. When I pulled it out, everything was cleaned, even in between the parts. I'm surprised that it worked within the slide since I'd have thought it would have worked like a Faraday cage... preventing the electrolysis process from working.

Absolutely brilliant as usual.

Brilliant Dom .. I genuinely look forward to your blogs

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll try to keep them coming!

Looks great! your enthusiasm fizzes more than electrolysis! Classic English vice & a modern synthetic Owatrol finish - an alkyd oil too 💥 beautiful.

So interesting. I have that very same vice, which I inherited from my late father. I am not sure how old it is, but I have known it for almost 60 years myself. Mine has seen a lot of service over the years. It is still in pretty good condition. It is an amazingly strong and useful vice, and, in an odd way, feels like an old friend.

Great work! I really enjoyed this!

great video dom! love the honesty! great recommendation for the bare metal protection, added to shopping cart! 👍

Brilliant job Dom, and so interesting. Well done mate 👍🏻😊🇬🇧

Brilliant vice restoration Dom .can't wait for the porsche restoration

Loved that! Did a similar vice restoration myself and know it's a labour of love! Great tip with the Owatrol oil. Shall give that a go next time.

That is now a thing of beauty, very well done, wonderful watching the process, and how lovely the vice is now. I am sure that a new one would be wildly more expensive than the ?£100 you have spent on parts. Also you have a piece of history to treasure. Awesome.

Amazing job well done Dom. I love your determination and perseverance, which pays off every time 🥰😍

Dom, I’m not sure if anybody else has mentioned this in the comments but this method only works on ‘line of sight’, so if the vice was always stood on its mounts the underneath would never have the rust removed effectively. I’ve used it to free up stuff for years but you’ve gotta let the anodes and a diodes ‘see’ each other. Great vids btw.

I did a quick check and an equivalent vice, Irwin T25 was around 460 quid so I think it was well worth the effort. Great video Dom.👍

Terrific. I am amazed that such a rusty vice could be brought back to life.

Another brilliant video Dom thanks a lot more please 🔩⚒🇬🇧

Cracking job, Dom! Well done!

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Brilliant video Dom- much better than watching paint dry - The electrolysis helped heaps in getting the vice almost ready to fall apart, with a bit of elbow grease and a big hammer and your brother's help 👌😊 Vice now sorted and ready for action again - looking forward to next week's video 😊

I have just cleaned up the inside of my brothers rusty fuel tank for his motorbike using this process, insulated annode through the filler cap. Worked a treat.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

That’s clever brilliant!

Really enjoyable video Dom .....cheers 👍

Great restoration Dom, keep um comin Mate & Stay Safe !!!.

Hi Dom Well that is a nice vice & all things worked but in different way. Well done Dom shows what can be done to rebuild rather than throwing away. Take care.

Thank you for not hitting it with a wire brush! Beautiful Restoration and perfect for the shop. Well done.

@DominicChineas

4 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Love your enthusiasm

I restored my dad's Paramo No5 vice and bought new jaws made by a guy who sells on ebay. Love the bare metal look on yours.

Great video! Love the effort and following through. Thanks for the share!

Thanks Dom. I followed your instructions, it worked for me! With a 12volt 3amp computer power brick.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know I’m so glad to hear it worked for you!

Found these vids today. Really helpful and vastly more entertaining than the silent types. Thanks.

@DominicChineas

Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad you think so!! Thanks!

Nice one Dom. You have shone all, real life experience in this restoration .Thank you.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

This was all Real life!

Love it, you did the same in The Repair Shop, I just caught up with that episode yesterday!!

I did an old Record carpenters vice that was seized and had been left out for 10- 15 years. Using washing powder and water and a “starter charger”, changing the charger terminal over to different parts got the whole thing turning and all the springs worked perfectly.

Brilliant job Dom. Great to see a wonderful piece of British engineering, rescued.👍🏻👏🏻

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it

Think you`ll find you have an aircraft engineers vice there. Nice to see honesty and cockups for a change that we all experience .

Thanks Dom... love your vlogs- you remind me of my father-in-law. He was a kind and helpful man who enjoyed making broken things work again too!

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Glad your enjoying watching

Nice work Dom.

Nice job Dom. Years ago I worked in a gearbox factory (in the offices) and if the guys had something like that they would drop it into a tank of old automatic transmission fluid for a couple of weeks. That seemed to free up anything! The most difficult part of the operation was to try and forget it and not keep getting it out to fiddle with it. They also had a tank of lanolin which they steeped large metal objects in. That seemed to find its way into all the little crevasses and prevent rust forming.

Absolutely brilliant

Love You showing how to bring back the vice back to life Dom. My entire tool kit is from Ebay and car boot sales. George.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of mine are from bootsales too!

Really enjoyed watching that!

Love it! Thanks Dom 👍

@DominicChineas

4 ай бұрын

Your welcome, good luck!

Great video Dom. Electrolysis is fascinating…probably a bit much for the old vice. I think that with connecting the dodgy bits to the wires it could have worked. Not a failure either bud, look at the cracking vice you now have bolted to your workbench! I look forward to the next video. Thank you

Really great rescue! I bought sodium carbonate for laundry purposes. It's often sold as, "Washing Soda". I relate the -ve terminal as cathode and the +ve as anode. That ring completion as suggested by your brother is good because it reduces the accumulated contact resistance of all the daisy-chained crock-clip connections (and that of the wire) as seen by the last anode in the chain, so the furthest is now the one at the opposing end of the tank which now sees half the resistance it saw before (because there are twice the number of current paths to it). This is similar to cathodic protection of boat hulls.

Hey Dom it is so nice seeing you do this and showing your mistakes , well they are not mistakes your learning Top bloke that vice would cost an arm and a leg and worth so much now its usable well done great stuff..older tools are worth there weight in gold.

Great job Don.

Great informative video. Nice to see some British heritage preserved. Now bring on the Coffee Rover ! Can’t wait to see this finished.

Citric acid works a treat as well with a touch of dish wash liquid to break surface tension.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the advice, ill give it a go one day!

Served my apprenticeship at Parkinsons in Shipley West Yorkshire back in the 1960's.

The electrolysis may have been a fail as far as totally removing the rust is concerned but it was a powerful tool in the restoration. Interesting video

@jacksprat7087

2 жыл бұрын

Electrolysis only fails when the electrical current cannot get to every part. He should have disassembled everything first.

Wow, great job, good to watch. Keep up the good work.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much

Hey Dom - I helped a neighbour with a garage clear out and won myself two 6/12 volt car battery chargers! Electrolysis here we come! Thinking a trip to the market for rusty tools then see what we can do with them .... maybe a piece of art even!

Awesome restoration there, love the result and thanks for the tip about coating the raw finish as I have recently restored my late dad's Record No 4 vice which I remember using as a child some 35+ years ago so will be giving that stuff a go 😁👍

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

It’s brilliant stuff you won’t regret it!

@rayjr62

Жыл бұрын

@@DominicChineas And it wasn't a bloody outrage, either !!!! Cheers. 😉

Nice work sir. Love your enthusiasm

Great job and brought the vice back to a useful life again. Thanks.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Lovely vice. I inherited a vice the same size from my grandfather (and two others) for which I am always thankful. Fishoilene (fish oil) is another good alternative for sealing an iron surface. Takes awhile to dry but it will and does a great job.

Just inherited my Dad's old Record No.24 vice which is equally rusty on the surface but fortunately not seized up. Thinking of using your electrolysis approach but breaking the vice down into it's constituent parts first to attack the rust on all surfaces. Like the idea of using the Owatrol oil instead of Roundell Blue as well.

Spot on Mate. Just ordered a tin of the Owatrol, will give it a blast!

Dom. A thing of beauty.

2 videos ago, I also restored a rusty vise, but a tiny one! I used a DIY cream (beeswax + linseed oil + turpentine) to protect it from rusting, that seems to be working fine as well, but only time will tell! :) I really like the look of those guys, without paint. Your video was very interesting to watch, thank you!

What a joyous channel this is!

Really well done. Thanks for sharing, cheers

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Big D. I was literally just thinking last night whilst watching your vespa videos, I wonder 🤔 when you will do the vice video, and here it is. Great video...

Great film as ever, I for one appreciate the 'mistakes' as this is what usually happens to me and at least you take the time to explain and how to rectify them. One question Dom, how do you dispose of the "sludge" from the tank? Is it acceptable to dispose of via household drain? Many thanks in anticipation.

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment and the kind words! The liquid is fine to go down the drains, if there’s any large chunks of rust or bits you might want to scoop them out and bin them!

Excellent and informative. Well done and thank you

@DominicChineas

2 жыл бұрын

Your so welcome

Great video, loved it.