1:25 - "Edge of heel kick" / Side stomp ( _Ecrasement des orteils latéral_ ) 2:10 - Chop ( _Tranché_ ) 2:55 - Chin jab ( _Musette_ ) 3:40 - Groin kick ( _Coup de pied de pointe_ ) 4:20 - Chop ( _Tranché_ ) 5:20 - Kick to a downed opponent 5:50 - Toe kicks 6:05 - Stomps 7:00 - Combos 8:55 - Scraping kicks 9:50 - Conclusion

Good Video. Fairbairn's kicking techniques are based on Bagua stepping techniques. These are typically performed as a shin scrape into a stamp to the instep. Either with the outer heel (ko) or with the inner heel (bai). You can scrape up and then stamp down, or scrape down straight into the stamp. The hoofing front kick is also very much in that style. When done with good solid boots these scrapes are very painful (even more so with high heels but its hard to find them in my size). As you mention the shin scrapes double as a falling step to add power to the hand technique. Fairbairn was one of the first western judo/jujitsu Dan grades, but focused on downing the opponent and following up with kicks (PTBI), rather than moving into ground work as you demonstrate. This was because the ultimate goal was escape. Brazilian Jujitsu is a great art but has had the effect of making people think at everything ends up in ground work. In non "match fighting" going to the ground should be avoided...better to keep on your feet and remain mobile to deal with other threats or escape.

really useful! Thank you

USN, right on brother!

Great video and great jacket!!!!!

@TommyMooreww2combatives

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy!

We always called a good kick to the face the "Doc Martin dental plan"

The jacket worn by Bob is the best of all jackets in your films. Please treat it more gently, the jacket, not Bob.

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

This is the most dashing and stylish of martial arts channels. Mr Moore are your related to the entertainer Thomas Benjamin Wild Esq. by any chance? I believe you use the same tailor.

How would you feel about using that palm heel to the ear instead of the chin in the first combo so you can grab them by the ear full handed as a head control handle?

@TommyMooreww2combatives

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fella, hair controls, face gripping, throat gripping, ear ripping! All great stuff, but I always say focus on the hit first (the ballistic shot) and then the nasties. Ideally you knock the fucker out and you don’t need to worry about 🙏🥊

Could the front toe kick be thrown to shin/knee/kneejoint are too? Kinda like coup de pied pointe/fouette.

@TommyMooreww2combatives

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely mate. Groin, knee, shin. I like the knee because it mechanically stops the enemy advancing, as well as the main it causes. It interrupts movement. What type of shoes you’re wearing will really dictate the types of kick you use and the targets you hit 🙏🥊

@isolahti

3 жыл бұрын

@@TommyMooreww2combatives thanks for the quick answer!!

lolololol literally just commented about this on the surprise attack video

Best way to end a fight: Stomp em in the nuts😎

I am hoping that the time will come that you put out a video on how to pick someone up and dump them on their head and what to do if someone picks me up and is about to dump me on my head. (I am guessing that I should wrap my hands and arms around my head to absorb the impact. ) I've seen this frequently in KZread videos showing street fights. I searched KZread in the past looking for videos on how to kick someone who is lying on the ground. This is basically the only one. Someone else merely just did one kick in passing. Maybe two?

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

"Low kicks" by Fred Hutchinson ISBN 1-58160-138-7. for informational purposes only.... don't do this. If you assailant is on the floor then in the eyes of the law you should use the opportunity to escape. Kicking a downed assailant is well passed minimum necessary force and any police office who needs to make they quota will nick you so fast you will travel back in time and find yourself in a cell with Oscar Wilde...bottom bunk. If some one try's to dump you on to your head, grab hold tightly on to them to slow your fall and try land on your shoulders. There is a famous statue of Hercules fighting Diomedes in the Palazzo Vecchio that is a good example. Also learn an art that teaches Ukemi judo , jujutsu, aikido, systema, or shuai Jiao for instance. Dumping someone on their head? don't.. just don't. There are throws that do this but done on pavement or concrete you will (if you are unlucky) kill the person and that has consequences ...like going to starbucks for coffee. Most people on this channel appear to train out of historical interest and a scholarly interest in self defense. No one studies with the intention of causing the death of another human being even unintentionally.

@toddellner5283

3 жыл бұрын

When reduced to its essence almost all empty-hand martial arts designed for fighting outside of a gladiatorial or ludic (sporting or for fun) setting comes down to: 1) Hit him 2) Seize him 3) Throw him to the ground 4) Stomp a mudhole in him 5) Keep him from doing the same thing to you Kicking the crap out of someone who is lying on the ground generally goes well beyond the parameters of self defense, not always, but generally. But it's been part of the program since we were living in trees. Falling safely, especially when you're not on a mat or a sprung sporting ring is a whole study in itself. A lot of the Judo/Ju Jutsu throws we study are designed to put someone on their back with force and control, and Japanese ukemi is designed to take that kind of fall efficiently. Other systems specialize in falls that are awkward or difficult to take safely, but you go through a lot of training partners if you do them too hard.

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

@@toddellner5283 That's pretty much combatives in a nutshell👍. Earlier versions Chinese arts, Sambo, & Jujiutsu had combat throws which tie up the arms and target the head or neck as a landing point..more "hitting the opponent with the ground" that "throw". I have a pair of detached retina which support the point about "partner attrition". As combat oriented practice transitioned to more sport focused practice throws became more circular allowing for easier ukemi. For example Kata Guruma is a fairly nice ukemi especially if nage goes to their knees. The combat form where you step out from under Uke when they are at their apex and make the fall completely vertical....not so much. Daki age, Ura age, & Hikikomi gaeshi are all Judo techniques that have been modified to avoid smashing Uke's head into the ground. Ditto many of CACC's throws which would break a joint during the throw rather than as a separate technique on the ground. I agreed the ground control after the throw has been integral since the days of yoroi kumiuchi and before. As always Shioda Gozo's biography gets a mention: He recounts a street fight in pre-war Shanghai between a 4th dan judo and himself vs Chinese gang members. He dispatched a number of opponents mainly with atemi. The Judoka was successful in throwing his opponents, who Shioda notes repeatedly sprang up unhurt to attack again.

@toddellner5283

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnemo6509 When I started Silat I was amazed at how different taking ukemi was with those throws compared to the Judo ones I'd grow up with. Much more difficult, and the falls were designed to really hurt you. That and the way they all centered around keeping the other guy's knives away from you while you were throwing him. A very different cultural context than late 19th century opening up Japan.

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

@@toddellner5283 Feel free to expand on this. Silat and Kuntao are massively impressive arts. I can see the connection back to Chinese arts but in silat the practical aspect has been preserved due to the different cultural context as you say. Unfortunately I've only observed these arts so your insights or recommendations on are welcome. Too many arts not enough time ..sigh!

Something I'm puzzled about. After reading the Fairbairne books, it is pretty safe to ascertain that it is geared for UK and US forces fighting the Nazis. What I want to know is what training would they have against Japanese forces as it is likely they will know Jui Jitsu anyway. Also, apart from UK and US forces, was defendu taught to any other allied forces (Australian, New Zealand, Canadian or Jewish units)?

@TommyMooreww2combatives

3 жыл бұрын

In fairness fella, the American marines were taught what is known as 'Combat Judo' (Boxing, Judo, Wrestling etc) - and they were all going into field against the Japanese. In the 40's there was enough good Judoka / Ju Jitsuka in the west to even the balance for the needs the guys had. Great topic idea though! Check out the books by B.J Coseneck - you'll get a feel for what the Americanised Combat Judo was about fella

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

Most soldiers in any army spend very little time on unarmed combat. Maybe former soldiers can correct me? Certainly the WWII Japanese army was not filled with Jujutsu experts but with young boys straight from school or the farms. Probably the only martial arts training they had was during basic training and was at a similar level to the western soldiers. Shioda gozo does give an account of witnessing Japanese karate and kempo "experts" practicing killing blows on a Chinese civilian during the war. He (the captive) took a beating but didn't die and eventually the soldiers gave up. My personal opinion is the combatives training for soldiers was more about moral boosting. Soldiers have guns and when things go badly bayonets knives and entrenching tools. Fairbairns method shines in the training for the SOE and OSS. People with limited experience and limited time to learn combat skills. they needed very simple and effective methods they could use instinctively to help facilitate escape. These people could not look like trained fighters and had to blend in with the normal population. If you want to explore the equivalent skills taught in Japan I suggest you read up about the training given in the Nakano spy school. Canadians did learn Fairbairn methods at camp-X...Australians in my experience are naturally gifted and probably didn't need it😃

@toddellner5283

3 жыл бұрын

Time spent training unarmed skills is time not spent on the primary and secondary weapons. There are some jobs in the military that require special skills with empty hands or cold weapons - military police, soldiers who will be doing sentry removal, divers, etc. But for the most part military combatives has *always* been based on a small number of high-percentage techniques backed by physical fitness and aggression, based on the assumption that the trainee will have, for instance, boots and a sturdy uniform. The experience of Allied troops in the Pacific Theater showed that that worked pretty well. Better childhood nutrition gave Allied troops on average an advantage in reach and strength, and the boxing and wrestling they were familiar with worked pretty well along with whatever training they received. Japanese troops might have had some training - Judo and Kendo in secondary school, possibly Juken Jutsu if they were lucky enough to have been trained before or during the early part of the war. But most of them were conscripts who got pushed through training quickly, just like their opponents. Special troops got special training. British Commandos got Fairbairn's system. Ueshiba Morehie was teaching advanced techniques at the Spy Academy. But those were very small elite groups. The history of Japanese forces in the Philippines was interesting. Local, Allied, and Japanese accounts agree that the indigenous tradition of bladed and impact weapons was very sophisticated and more than held its own against bayonets and swords as taught by the Japanese military or what soldiers and officers learned before the war. It was optimized over centuries for the terrain and conditions in which it evolved. Large movements with a sword are not as effective in a forest. The upright stance and step-and-slide footwork of Kendo or Juken Jutsu suffers on slopes and in mud, something the local martial arts took into account.

@johnnemo6509

3 жыл бұрын

@@toddellner5283 Very nice summary thanks I agree that special units would receive more in-depth and diverse training than general "squaddies". To add: Ueshiba Morihei was an army drill instructor (sergeant i believe) and almost certainly learned/taught juken in the army, and initially as part of the pre-war aikido syllabus. I believe juken had significant influence along with the spear on aiki-jo. The knife randoori of Tomiki aikido ( i believe) is based on the sister art of Tanken Jutsu. The Tanken is similar in size to the the pre-war bayonet (Typically 17"~21" length at that time) and so favors thrusts over slashes ( think northern China winter thick military uniforms get in the way of having a slash). Uehara Seikichi gives mention to Okinawa -te used again Philipinno martial arts JAMA vol5 no3 1996 interview. You mention the use of the sword, and historical accounts of Japanese sword fighting put a much greater emphasis on the thrust over cutting than modern kendo, basically "learn to thrust or die".

@toddellner5283

3 жыл бұрын

God, I miss JAMA.

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