Uche Chuta is no match for Reno Omokri. What Reno needs is a professor of history to take on him. I teach history and I can reconcile with many of Reno's claims. I am having the urge to engage him but I acknowledge my limitation as having the knowledge of history by abstract as against Reno whose knowledge stems from real life contact with some of these historical sources.

@denibright4964

3 жыл бұрын

Sir, I must say that you're a true personality. We need people like you for leadership in our societies.

@stanleyanyadike6898

3 жыл бұрын

Uche actually did well. He wasn't there to argue all the history in the world. He was there to correct the impression that isherkeri were raiding Igbo towns and taking them for slaves. Uche made a point to him that those slaves might have been sold to them by igbo slave traders even because there place is close to coastal areas for transporting slaves and that was why the Portuguese made there their base

@zoejesus52

3 жыл бұрын

@@godwinejiofor8064 what is the evidence?

Fulani marauders kidnapped Ajayi Crowther and sold him into slavery. That is not a palatable history to the Yorubas but it is a part of our history. Let's all have an open mind and learn from history.Thank you Reno !

@ralpht6200

3 жыл бұрын

What evidence do you have of that?

@aigbekaenosaigbovo8607

7 ай бұрын

Ajayi was a slave given to the white man to educate who came back and turn against his master. He is likely he was in benin city and given to white men for education because olden chiefs didn't trust white man with thier children. And good example oshodi tapa in Lagos.

Uche shouldn't have appeared on such debate where he knows nothing. Reno was factual on history but Uche's views were based on emotions. I like Reno, intelligent, calm & factual

@omobanedo9602

7 ай бұрын

You are absolutely correct! Reno tried and tried telling the absolute truth, he bit his emotion and pride and said Benin established Warri where he as an Itsekiri man came from. He mentioned Ogieamen as Benin's name without being biased He is an Itsekiri man but he spoke the fact. But when tried saying the VERY TRUTH about the Igbos used as slaves in those areas, Uchie got mad and never recovered!!! Reno was saying the truth. I am an Edo man, was born in the early '60s and my great grandfather I was lucky enough to meet in life, had some Igbo slaves even as later as the 1960s, not too long ago, until the Biafria war started in 1967 when they were all called and they ran to the Southeast!!! I myself can testify!!!! The reason there is a mixture of the Igbo communities in the Delta parts of Nigeria today!!!!! FACT, FACT, FACT!!!

I am not sure Uche knows what he is doing here. When I refer people to evidence and they still act naive, I let them go. Uche knows nothing about history. All Mr. Reno said was true. Uche is here to learn, but he doesn't want to accept history.

@iheanyi1

3 жыл бұрын

There are many gaps in Reno's account. Definitely a lot of Igbos were taken as slaves, record shows that behind Yorubas, and the Bakongo's. Igbos were 4th in volume, however what Uche could not point out was, most Igbos were transported out through Calabar, Bonny and Old Kalabar. Further, the Binis were not big time players in the slave trade. They probably participated but stopped early enough and no record shows that they were major players. Considering their strategic positioning, one would have seen as much records as in the Bonyy, Calabr or Badagry trade. The Delta Igbos were defntely more organized than the Eastern Igbos. Agbors had kings. Unless one argues that these people are not Igbos, then the proimity of the Eastern Igbos to the Binis and Itshekiris will rubbish his position as it ill be difficuklt to sustain raids to the Eastern heartland beyond the boundaries of kingdoms. His Onitsha assertion is mere gossip and lacks real hisorical crdibility.

@pinnaryokubo3563

3 жыл бұрын

@@iheanyi1 hahahahaha it's all in your head dear just accept 👍

@iheanyi1

3 жыл бұрын

@@pinnaryokubo3563 Of course my bro, I have accepted an, u fit reach us in your seven reincarnations?

Reno history is lopsided and should interview an historian

Uche is not sound on this..he didn't even mention the false values Reno was telling in his post, the whiteman said because of tribal marks he is now an igbo,igbos don't have tribal marks and those who had were Nris ,there marks had a specific pattern which is not what was shown in the video.

God bless you for more wisdom to give

How can a slave master take up the name of his slave ? I rest my case

@iwundubuisi4309

3 жыл бұрын

Those that claim that they have a Ph.D. should come and answer this question.

@agbaya5314

3 жыл бұрын

But ikengbuwa is not an igbo name. It’s a pure Benin-itsekiri name. It’s igbos who adopted it. The same way they adopted Benin and yoruba cultural ways of dressing.

@promochuks

3 жыл бұрын

@@agbaya5314 Let’s not get into cultural way of dressing as that would be like shooting yourself in the foot . Remember that apart from how the foreigners described it , our forefathers also passed down actual details and so on.. fact remains that these people are all connected not just by language but by culture (not adopted) . The great Benin empire indeed was already in existence before the arrival of the Portuguese and so where were many others

@agbaya5314

3 жыл бұрын

@@promochuks we can talk about cultural dressing. I’m yoruba and what we wear today is what our ancestors wore. From the àdiré to aso oke. The Benin’s have their own too, the red dress with that crown dressing the women wear. Igbos don’t have a cultural dressing besides nakedness and I’m being serious. The red cap they wear was influenced from the Hausas who took it from the Arab slave traders. The women also imitate the Benin women royal dressing even though early archived photographs of igbo royalties depicted their queens scantily clad to loin cloth nakedness. I have to therefore ask myself if at all there was anything great about the igbo? For such a boastful tribe, it seems you were owned as slaves by both yorubas, Benin’s, itsekiri’s, Hausas and noks.

@promochuks

3 жыл бұрын

@@agbaya5314 I was expecting such comment from you and nothing more . You are not Igbo and know almost nothing about the Igbos except for the narratives borne out of your disdain for my people . I know of my culture , our way of life and so on, so your opinion does not affect me . My first statement remains unchanged, you may go ahead and wallow in your hate while I stick to what I know and not how it was narrated . A United south is indeed never happening with this type of mindset . Reno has nearly succeeded in achieving that but only those who has woken up from the divide and rule techniques set up by the colonials can read in between the lines . My opinion stands .

Uche is making assertions based on emotion, not facts.

@pinnaryokubo3563

3 жыл бұрын

you are well learned hahaha no wonder google said the Igbo taught they were originated from Israelites 😆 keep quiet and listen 👂

Reno we waiting to hear from you and maazi ogbonnaya, U and uche is just discussing as friendship not about hestry, thanks

When Reno is ready to talk about this history he should open phone conversations so more views can heard

Uche is very myopic about facts and historic events. His argument is based on sentiment and emotions.

@omobanedo9602

7 ай бұрын

He is not so myopic, but using the old tribal emotional ideas to prove logic!

I finally watched the video that Reno keeps hammering on as "documentary evidence". The mere video of a man narrating history as he knows to the best of his limitations does not qualify as documentary evidence. This is the significant difference between archaeology and history. What you uploaded as "documentary evidence" may as well be an individual perspective as we know history is handed down and modified and transformed with its meaning differing in context and purpose as it crosses different languages, race or tribe. As a result even history or what you call "facts" are not entirely factual. History is the scholarly study of the past by the historians. Archaeology is a branch of study that tries to find information about the past by digging artifacts and trying to understand the sequence of events of the past.

@milomilosavage2793

3 жыл бұрын

Omokeri Onitsha people did not come from Benin they were returning igbos as far as Lagos or Eko. If you listen Onni of Ife said the market in Ile Ife were opened by igbos and some of them are still there assimilated.

@milomilosavage2793

3 жыл бұрын

If Portuguese were the one directing slavery in Benin or isekiri then Benin and isekiri were not responsible then .Slavery was traded by every tribe and every tribes were sold.

@eghosajay8023

3 жыл бұрын

@@milomilosavage2793 but the Obi of Onitsha has a slightly different account... Please know your History no b fight or quarrel

@eghosajay8023

3 жыл бұрын

@@milomilosavage2793 how many tribes or kingdoms or empires did your history teach you the Portuguese had good business and political relationship with... Do your research my friend

@pinnaryokubo3563

3 жыл бұрын

@@milomilosavage2793 go and learn your original history

How oga Reno looks while quiet and listening... is somehow funny! It's like an elder listening to a child talking babbles and waiting for a chance to put the child right with facts...

@omobanedo9602

7 ай бұрын

Awooooh, you are so correct, Reno is so confident, watching this guy as a baby trying to talk and reason!

Facts don't care about emotions.

@zoejesus52

3 жыл бұрын

There is no fact, dear.

Uche just made me waste my data. Something that would have been very enlightening. Uche made it looks like childs play.

Big thanks you very much

If there is nothing i like about you, i just love how you give attention and not interupting the other party when they are speaking unlike them always trying to interupt and drawa you back. Reno you are great man, wish you more wisdom.

@okpohsisaac9403

3 жыл бұрын

Bring the person sir.

Why is this Uche arguing blindly? There facts and figures. He never said all Igbos were slaves to Binis he said some Igbo villages were captured by the Binis soldiers. I took my time to researched about this and it was true. Binis Empire was so large to Ghana. So let not us reacts by emotions. This should not cause crisis

@stanleyanyadike6898

3 жыл бұрын

Which facts and figures. Oga rest. I have made a comment on this, you can go and read it

@amosuwamusi5099

3 жыл бұрын

Don't react to history by emotions... research about it

The truth is that,for peace to rain.There are things we should just let go.

@okpohsisaac9403

3 жыл бұрын

Truth is always bitter and the same with history. U can't erase that fact.

The great Benin empire

Maxi uche is making a point. Every body sold slaves, directly or indirectly

Every tribe in Nigeria sold slaves, including the Itsekiri, Fulani, Hausa, and so on, Uche is not a debater, not well informed to undo all Reno's lie, and Uche is a stammer, why did he come out to authenticate Reno'S LIes, begging for unity, the minority need Igob more than Igbo need them, the north always preferred to work with Igbos than any other tribe in Nigeria but Igbo isn't ready to betray the South, Reno started this nonsense immediately he saw that Nnamdi Kanu isn't around, Reno doesn't make any sense, but he was very cunny and very insulative by always shooting the man down in a very sly and rude manner, the man is very civil but he always shot the man down, and when the man asks him a question, he will keep repeating allow me to talk , and by so doing he is thinking of the answer to give which is not even the correct answer, he always said go and do your research, instead of quoting the exact where he got his information, why are you quoting a source that you are not ready to share, he said Itsekiri has 1000,000 standby armies, the question is, what is the population of Itsekiri two hundred years ago? Itsekiris are not even up to 5,000 then, everything he said is all lie, but the man isn't a well-informed person, he is not writing down all the Reno lie, so he can't destroy his argument one by one, look at the manner he is shot the man down like a baby and he just stood there like a dummy, and even begging a micro tribe like Itsekiri for unity, he want Igbo to spearhead the meeting between the Southern people so, in the end, they will use Igbo as a scapegoat and political bargaining or settlement, that is not gonna happen anymore, let everybody be a slave to Fulani, cuz when Igbos were shouting in 2014 for all the south to vote right, they all are saying Igbos don't know politics, my regret is that, this Reno master is the person Igbos sacrificed their lives for

Reno has a good point and Mr Uche. Mr, Uche is just disputing that Ishekiri are the slave masters of Igbo while Mr, Reno is saying they are buyers and dealers of slave trades thereby painting it as if they are superior to Igbo having bought and sold them. My question now is does it mean that no Ishekiri, Ijaw slave? Who sold and bought them? Igbos too bought and sold so let's build on our similarities and not use history to divide us. Let's let the sleeping dog lie if not we will create more division which the Fulanis are really praying for

@mgbekelly7701

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly my point.

@danielakolite9476

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Reno was not trying to argue history, something lead to history but you people saying history should be forgotten is out of it, leaving as one will never be disputed, the same history will forget about is killing us today, Buhari!!, If history didn't repeat it self we won't be in these mess

I wish Reno could have this kind of conversation or debate as the case may be with Nnamdi Kanu, just maybe it could make more meaning.

@mtdspfgh

3 жыл бұрын

Kanu is not civil. He just might go around throwing insults, tantrums and confirm Reno's claim that the Igbos are quite sensitive and very emotional.

IOlu Akengbuwa II, cited above as his Grandfather was actually not a real Olu, but a Usurper his real name was Chief Moju Igbene. When Gbasimi Emiko was dethroned in 1965 by the Midwest Government to Ogbesse village in Edo state today. Government used Moju Igbene to replace him as a puppet. But when David Ejoor took over in 1966, he sacked Moju Igbene and returned Gbasimi Emiko ( Erejuwa II) to his rightful throne. His grandfather was assisted by Nnamdi Azikiwe and Dennis Osadebe government to overthrew the original king

Go school, u said school Na scam. How wan take withstand Reno?

This Reno sef. He said Igbos not having one king is a notorious fact. Lol😂😂. That's nonsense. Igbos not having one king is one of their strongest tool. That's why it's very difficult to conquer them. And they practise that as what you call democracy in modern day world. Reno that your statement is nonsensical and disrespectful

@ugochukwuagha7699

3 жыл бұрын

You're very right

It is easier to be United when you are small than when you are as large as Igbo nation

@ndualaoma9514

3 жыл бұрын

@ea s so you think the population of Lagos is Yoruba alone? Igbo is the largest ethnic group in Nigeria. If you doubt it let is conduct a census.

@ndualaoma9514

3 жыл бұрын

@ea s Igbo is not just southeast alone. Igbo occupies at least 50% of south South. Igbo occupies at least 30% of Lagos and at least 15% of southwest. Igbo occupies at least another 15% of northern Nigeria. That the Igbos have not shown commitment in voting does not mean they are not the largest ethnic group in Nigeria.

@veritas2048

Жыл бұрын

So why are the yoruba united? Why is the diverse North united? You ibos are defective.

@veritas2048

Жыл бұрын

​@@ndualaoma9514 SHAMELESS PEOPLE.

@aigbekaenosaigbovo8607

7 ай бұрын

And they say they want to form a country. 😂😂😂

Credit to Reno Omokri

"Those " tribal masks" Mr. Reno mentioned here were the Benins, I still have the same tribal masks as a Benin, just to correct that aspect.

Mr. Reno pls try and get external mic so we can hear u clearly next

Benin Empire was heavily involved in selling the Igbo riverline people like Ikwere, Etc. Benin Empire installed small kingdoms like Oru of Warri, Kalabari kingdom, Oblong of Calaba, it even extended to Lagos against the indigenous people of Awori. Because IGBOs do not have a centralized kingdom, the IGBOs suffered heavily in the trade. Reno is correct in that aspect

Worst debate ever. Reno's point is very clear. Scholarly exploits must be taken seriously across board. Very shameful debate!

Please let bini remain bini. Let itshekiri remain who they are. Let Igbo remain Igbo! Reno don't ever speak of the Igbo again!

The only close possibility is to say that the Ishekiri were armed and empowered by the Portuguese to enhance their slave trade. Reno, as a true follower of yours, I strongly advise that you desist from saying that the Ishekiri as a tribe traded the Igbos as trade.

Uche is on point with the assertion that slaves were sold by every tribes. Dr. Reno need more research

Oga Reno, please can you tell us the story of igodomigodo ? You never made reference to that, I know you respect the igbos, remember that until the lion have their own historians, the history of the hunt will always glorify the hunter. From great Chinua Achebe. Everything you’re saying is what you got from our hunter thanks. Davis Attenborough.

@mujoco5246

10 ай бұрын

What do you know about igodomigodo

Every nook and cranny of Onitcha has Benin footprints on them. The Onitcha people do not deny this at all. They are in fact very, very proud of their history!! You will see Onitsha Ugbo, Edu, Udo, etc, communities. The Onitcha people fully embraced the oneness of their Benin affiliation. See the Obi of Onitsha, he does not play with the ADA and EBEN at all, he presents them with gallantry and pride!!!

@ofonwannabugwu3763

5 ай бұрын

U are a big fool

Lets forget this hurtful slavery stories. We all are distant relatives regardless .

God bless you maxi uche

Reno Omokri is very wrong, the Delta Ibo and Onitsha left Benin to form Agbor, Iselle Uku,Kwale, Ikwerre and Onitsha under Eze Chima a King.. There was never any slavery talk between both tribe a period. Most Ibo slaves were sold from Bonny and Calabar ports and never Forcados or Escravos.. Reno lied

Why is Uche beating around the bush?

Reno is in his palace saying in his head, I got this, I am going to useless this mumu, ozuo small pickin!!!

Uchie is trying so hard to speak about the matter LOGICALLY! But history does not wrap around logic in general, never! History is the real recorded and can be shown visually, and physically as part and parcel of things and places!! Uchie is at the point of succumbing and in fact, succumbed to disgrace that he is almost crying for Reno telling the naked facts!!! Very interesting segment!

Igbo value systems and world view are similar to the value systems and world view of the other ethnic groups in the southsouth states. Value system and world view of a people in a country are what matter a lot in having such people in one country. All the divide and rule campaign of northern people brainwashed many of the Reno Omokris in today’s Southsouth who disparage Biafra and it’s possible restoration.

There is place in Benue state called igede there have there origin from benin kingdom.

@danielakolite9476

3 жыл бұрын

More light please

It's important that uche chuta is making Reno and the whole world to understand thateveryone, every tribes as that time were involved directly or indirectly in slave trade either by way of going to an errands for the slave masters or by even showing them the path that led to were their destination was. And that was as a result of the slave masters using us against each other, as a way of using us to exploit ourselves just as they are still using few of us to make Africa poor till this day.

This is not debate this is Reno lecturing Uche.

King Jaja is from Imo state. We know who sold him into slavery and those who sold him into slavery went to prison after the absolution of slavery. Jaja was captured and sold by very prominent Igbo merchant and they took him to Bonny via imo river. Jaja as a young man knew his route back but as some point he became comfortable in Bonny. He refused to conquer the Bonny kingdom instead he relocated to opobo with his other Igbo kinsmen. They founded opobo kingdom and took over the ivory and palmoil and slave business. Infact at some point Jaja stopped other Igbos from coming to opobo to do business with the Europeans and decided to act as the middle man. He stopped other Igbo businessmen at obigbo end of Igbo river and bought all they had to sell and related directly with the Europeans. Jaja's kinsmen visited him in opobo

Reno is right no need to get emotional. Same thing to Bonny Kalabari etc. They bought Igbo traders and sold them to the white man. But note, there were Igbo middle men involved.

If Reno is from royal house of itshekiri, it means Reno is a full blooded benin man. Iginua is the founder of that dynasty who is a full blooded benin prince. Other itshekiri might be yoruba but this Reno is benin-itshekiri man. And yet he insult his ancestor.

Hes right there is absolutely no point

Buhari made Northern Muslims heads of Judiciary and Legislator. Can you explain that? Though, I'm not in support of Northern Muslims at all. I can agree with you on appointments.

Igbos also sold themselves as slaves too and sold other tribes are slave too

This isn't Debate but Questions and Answers

@israelsamuel7764

Жыл бұрын

The dude doesn't have the intelligence and exposure of Reno

Reno Omokri: End of the Dark Age of Igbo Historical Revisionism By Robert Nwokoro (The Ancestor) Ever since Femi Fani Kayode attempted a review of Igbo history and was aborted by the eminent Igbo scholar and historian, Dr Samuel Okafor, there has never been anyone to dream of such thing until our brother Reno Omokri came to try his luck. "The Lies of Femi Fani-Kayode” was a rejoinder by Dr Okafor to Kayode's: "The Bitter Truth About The Igbo”. Dr Okafor's erudition was earth-shattering. It not only ended Kayode's revisionist anti-Igbo literature permanenly, it was also a force that transformed Kayode from position of aggressor to being an ally of the Igbo today. I know a lot of us are not aware of this or perhaps have forgotten. But I'm here to remind you. Barely a decade after, another London-groomed intellectual, named Reno Omokri came to try his own luck but met a devastating resistance from a more formidable young Igbo intelligentsia, led by Maazị Ogbonnaya II But I did not blame Reno! His attempted revisionism was inspired by the age-long ritual of selling anti-Igbo narratives to the world. Mind you - the abuse of the Igbo did not start today- it's like a thesis to graduate into the mainstream of relevance in Nigeria- and Reno has come to try his own luck. Perhaps Reno wants to change his political narrative from secular to ethnic discourse since that's the only viable stock in the political market of Nigeria. But for him to succeed in his new found ethnic discourse, he needs to dent the image of Ndi Igbo by churning out narratives that will boost his complex inferiority from that region-thus the slave/servant narrative. It's a tactical move but the slave/servant narrative is a fat bone - too big even for him to swallow. If Reno does not want to toe the line of ethnic politics in the next phase of his career as I believe it to be, how does Igbo/Itsekiri slave history relevant in the discourse of contemporary Nigeria? Again, some of them do this purposely to sustain the false narrative that onye Igbo can spend many years in pursuit of money but cannot tell his own story for one minute. This is a crazy lie! It makes me sick how people will come to believe such nonsense. But why is it that people like Reno cannot attempt to discuss or review history of other ethnic groups despite their over sabi head? Why always Ndi Igbo? Igbo this and Igbo that... Igbo, Igbo, Igbo all the time? Why? But Reno has messed with the wrong generation of Igbo. No pity for him. As a scapegoat, he would be used as ritual sacrifice for the spirit of our resistance. He wants to school us about artificial borders but forgets that Nigeria, his beloved country, is an artificial construct. You think say you dey wise? He wants to school us about slavery but pretends to be free in another man's land. No be juju be that? He thinks Igbo loves slavery so much that they had to wait for Itsekiri to set Igbo free when the Igbo, during the Ekumeku Movement, fought wars with the white man in Anioma for thirty one years (1883-1914) in order to stop the incursion of Royal Niger Company? I would like to ask Reno, during the time of Ekumeku, where were his affluent ancestors from Itsekiri who bought the so called Igbo slaves? For thirty one years the war was fought, what role did Itsekiri play to liberate now "Delta State" from the economic exploitation of Royal Niger Company? Incase Reno does not know, Ekumeku was a defence mechanism to preserve the socio-economic and political freedom of the indigenous Igbo of Anioma. How come people with such level of military intelligence, power and pride were slaves to close neighbours in Itsekiri? I want to believe that Reno has read the great works of Olaude Equiano especially the "Interesting Narratives of the life of Olaude Equiano" (published 1789). The first black history book written by a former black slave. Equiano like other Igbo slaves in the Caribbean were all led by the same Igbo resistance spirit to call for the abolition of slavery. If I were Reno, by now I would have known that the Igbo has a universal language, which is the ability to live freely according to one's terms. This is why Equiano set the pace by purchasing his own freedom so he could live under his own terms. This same language was spoken in the Caribbean against the French. The aggressive nature of onye Igbo made the white man hate him. How much more an Itsekiri? The Great people of Arochukwu did not waste time in registering the same feeling against the British. At first, they showed the British hell and evicted them from Aro Kingdom. The British reinforced and the war lasted for three years before they could assert control over Aro Kingdom. It is because of the Igbo resistance to slavery that 73 Igbo slaves conspired to attack the slave merchants in a ship en route to Georgia. They did attack the merchants and drowned themselves in the process instead of giving themselves out to slavery. But with Reno's narrative, one would think there was a time the Itsekiri had the Igbo as slaves the same way as the white man. And Reno in his London dream thought this would happen without any record or resistance by the Igbo? Reno should have humbled himself by telling us he was looking for a way to elevate the position of his people than to arrogate to himself the status of Lord over the dexterous Igbo. How sad is it that Reno who should be the custodian of history is setting the archives ablaze in order to fry his nuggets? Reno should know days are gone when people dance music because it is played in London. Before now, people like Reno were taught that the Igbo does not have history of its own. Some of them swallowed the narrative like intoxicant and spewed trash in the name of intellectual erudition. I could remember Sam Omatseye as a columnist with The Nation Newspaper around 2008 or 2009. He was writing almost on daily basis to sell the narrative that Ojukwu was a coward who took to his heels at the climax of the war. He was appealing to the Igbo to stop seeing Ojukwu as a hero but as one who brought disaster upon them. At that time Omatseye was not challenged partly because, the corporate media in Nigeria needed the narrative to sell their stocks, and any rejoinder would mean 'bad market'. I know of someone who wrote and forwarded a rejoinder to Nation Newspaper but was turned down. The article was later published on Sun Newspaper but not later than Omatseye had fed the nation with his cooked lies. Those were the dark ages when few individuals controlled the narratives. Social media at that time had not gained popularity as stories were strictly dished through licensed newspapers, TV and radio stations. It was a dark age when people were controlled by poisonous narratives. But now we are in the age of information and ignorance is merely a choice. In conclusion: I am glad this generation is responding to Reno appropriately: many thanks to Social Media. Now we can tell our own stories, with facts. I must appreciate Maazị Ogbonaya for putting a good defence against Reno's malicious falsehood. The dark age has ended.

@productogb350

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ikenga. Reno is a small person cuz small people always lie against the big people that make them feel intimidated that's why he's into this buffoonery to make Itshekiri look relevant. According to Reno in one of his Instagram posts, name like Iweka, Ikenna and Oba got to the Igbo lexicon from Bini and Itshekiri cuz of his imaginary slave trade story and this makes me understand that it's a waste of time to debate with a man with such amount of self and proud ignorance. Is Reno gladly telling himself that Ndi Igbo did not bear names like Ezeoba, Ikenegbu, Iwekanjo and did not call their Yam Barn Oba ji until the Portuguese came to trade with the Bini in the 15th century?. It really shows that Reno is small person that dwells in fallacy to feel good about himself and his people. Even the Documentary from David that he's be showing as evidence is mere speculations cuz Igbo never had and don't have that time tribal mark and never fought many wars with Bini. It's shame that Reno who should know better than a white man when is comes to African tribal marks is depending on a Briton for facts. Reno Omokri has now changed his name to Reno Mockery cuz he's making a mockery of his education and his Itshekiri people. Daalu Nwanne m #IgboAmaka

@productogb350

2 жыл бұрын

*Igbo never had and still do not have that type of Tribal mark*

Anyways oga Reno corrected himself by saying they only sold slave trade with binis which amongst them re igbos via business men not that they invaded igbo land and took them as slave trade but the part that binis invaded some igbo settlements cause we re not centralized is a fact I’m yet to find the documentary,so if there’s any write up that binis invaded some igbo settlements and took them as slaves I would love to read it ….

This is not a debate but a friendly conversation

An average ibo man has an ego issue,that will never agree that history sometimes are unpleasant but true... imagine how they believed ibo landing history was true because it shows resilience & bravery but would never aggre with the history that itsekiri were trading with them as slaves because of this same ego.

One thing that puzzles me is this, if Benin had the power to raid villages and all, why didn't it raid all of the South East to appease the Obas test of power...that's one. The East is particularly untouched when it comes to the Obas rule. They do not share a festival with them, no cultural similarity, none of it. And thirdly, it seems like the Oba was only focused with the west, in which I believe he was resisted by them, being for the failure of the Oba not to raid and fully take on the west as a supreme ruler. For the east, it is totally untouched. If the Oba wanted to expand his empire it would have been easy for him, don't you think...the resources and expertise were fully there, and they had no supreme ruler. This was an advantage. Now, most Bini people say the Anambra, or Onitsha people and some sort of relationship. But there are no festivals honouring the Oba, no spot or thread of existence of the Oba in Onitsha and the rest, not even a corrupted language of Bini, if they claim the Benin was so superior to the rest of the African states. It's quite difficult to understand.. My conclusion is that Benin had no dealings with the east for two things, they were either cousins or something made the Oba not to look east, even though it seemed prosperous and had it all.

I'm a historian and Uche does not know what he is talking about and doesn't appear yo know history beyond 1960. The Igbos were a city state like the Greeks and Germanic tribes, the British brought them together through chieftain system. So there is nothing to be ashamed of and if I were Igbo I would accept that history.

U can't talk about Nigeria without the Benin history

Prince Moju was not Ikengbuwa 1, he took the tittle Ikengbuwa II If you don't know the tittle of your grandfather, how do you intend to tell others their history?

So I read through the Comments before watching the Clip, and From those Comments I thought Uche Chuta didn't do justice to the Debate, He is actually Did He is a Calm one I think Reno did Play smart, Cause he is versed in such Conversation( Debate) and did Played on Uche's intelligence, Just as Uche rightly Pointed out lots of those narrative Reno made can be termed Speculative, Common Sense will Tell us that once a Head office is situated in a Place that the Place tends to have an Upperhand in a lot of thing, Saying that the Itsekiris went and Conquered here and there, is actually not so Plausible, The Portuguese had their Port in Itsekiri and Dealt with Some Many People from Different Ethnicity, Cause common sense will tell us that is the only way a fuctional business moves.... Well, really lack of Documentaries in Mother Africa is the reason this Discussion is even prompted at the first Place, Good one Uche, Good One Reno.

Point of correction for Reno: While I believe his knowledge of history is astounding compared to Uche, the video documentary Reno kept referring to was not made by DAVID ATTENBOROUGH, but by the reknown historian and archeologist BASIL DONALDSON in one of his documentary on Africa. DAVID ATTENBOROUGH does documentary on nature and wildlife, not history. That said, BASIL documentary series on Africa is considered till date, the most objective documentary history of Africans ever to by any European. It was in one of this series that BASIL showed archeological proof to the world that the Ancient Egyptian Civilization were indeed Black African Civilization.

@RenosMasterClass

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Tijani, Thank you for your comments. The documentary was done by David Attenborough. He may have featured the gentleman you are referring to. The title of the documentary is Tribal Eye: Kingdom of Bronze. It was first broadcast in 1975. In that documentary, David Attenborough visited Benin, met with the Oba, and made use of documents from the British Museum. Although he studied Zoology at Cambridge, David Attenborough is a historian. That is his core strength. However, after the success of his natural history documentary series, his employer, the BBC, pushed him towards natural history purely for ratings purposes. The documentary Tribal Eye: Kingdom of Bronze is also available on KZread. Thank you and may God bless you.

@theumarfam4162

3 жыл бұрын

@@RenosMasterClass Thank you. I would surely look it up.

Uncle Uche, Mr. Reno is giving a sketch of something that happened long before our existence. But you are expecting him to say exactly how it happened. I am a Deltan which my own clan said they came from ancient Benin & always deny any identity with the Igbo... Which I don't accept because we all hear Igbo name. Uche you were there to debate & not to correct Reno. You position in this video is confusing... We need to know our history and you are there saying we should forget the past. Igbo are not united like other tribes in the country that's why we don't win as a group, we only win individually. We supported Jonathan because we don't need other tribes at that time.

@zoejesus52

3 жыл бұрын

@@godwinejiofor8064 you are not Igbo. This is a fake moniker.

How I wish you bring this argument when our leader MNK is not in detention he could have educate you wella

Look guys what Reno is saying here is that at some point igbo slaves where brought to the part of his town during slave tread and there's every possibility that those that the Portuguese could not move remains there and form another settlement which turned to a bit of every tribe in times of languages and I don't see anything wrong with that and why people are too emotional about it, common guys put the dot together...

Sir u blocked me (igho Chocho-Maqom) from ur fb account. I couldn't comment on any of ur post . A whole me, ur num one and num one .

This is not a debate One is only enlightening the other

@stanleyanyadike6898

3 жыл бұрын

Not enlightening Reno was just overshadowing him and the guy was just giving him respect

Mr. Uche Ochuta speaks the mind of an average Igbo man. He is an intelligent though combative inquisitor and debater who should not be railroaded. Mr. Reno is a wise man who speaks with facts from recorded history. The tonality of Mr reno shows that he has a schismatic mindset(it shows forth in the way he uses "you people" so often) and unwilling to accept the fact that his researches which most times he puts much resources into can be countered. We have a debatable history unfortunately not nice to the ears. People can agree to disagree and also disagree to agree.

Unity issue 😢

I just don't understand this obsessions with Igbos in Nigeria.

Uche are you asking questions or are you debating.. Oga reno come face me

Eko is a bini word, Lagos, Akoko edo were all conquer by Bini, BUT never in any part of Iboland.. The Oba respected the Ibo territory because they are strong and mighty people

@beckydaniels1588

Жыл бұрын

No that's not true I read a very old book. They ve old books of benin, ife , emir and many books ,the owner begged me not to misplaced it, their father's handed it to them, in that books I saw the photo of oba ovaranmwe and old palace etc, not drawing photo he was sitting with beads covering his neck I saw the palace too, oba of benin sent some warriors from ondo and benin. One of the warriors from ondo was mentioned was ologbosere and some benin warriors they went to collect a staff from one of a ibo king from anambra Oba of benin said he his the only king that use the staff no other king should use it, they killed d king and brought the staff to him, some people came to tell oba of benin about the staff, in that book ondo, itsekiri urhobo ijaw were all taking order 4rm benin in that book the queen of oba of , benin was ruling agbo people of delta state., in the other books I was allow to come to their house everyday to read it, that they can't give me

@nnamanilota3973

Жыл бұрын

@@beckydaniels1588 😁😀 What is the name of this your book ??? 😀😀😀

@beckydaniels1588

Жыл бұрын

Some of igbos were taking as slaved to benin kingdom and other tribe too but not the yorubas, in that book the benin and yoruba people were like family, I mean ife was like elder brother to benin, the son of oduduwa named benin (ibini) ,which is now beni which means anger it was writing that they get angry easily. Oba of benin was very powerful,as I read in the book. Igbos and niger delta too he was in control of them. Oyo empire was power in that book and ile ife is powerful too but ile ife was like thel and of gods ,well respected and feared but peacefu people.l was a teenager then I saw in that book, how the sons of ile ife spread all over in some part of the world. I saw something like onipopo ti popo , alabeni ti abeni, then ketu, they even spread to Egypt. The owner of this old history book is from benin and their mother is from agbo. They said they ve lost some of the books that's why they don't give it out.the paper of that book is funny and different very old.

@beckydaniels1588

Жыл бұрын

I'm not from benin but iba of benin did not respect tribe apart from ife , I won't say it's respect it's like relation with love that I ll call it or may be respect. Oba of benin conquered alot of territory, and he was respected, he went to lagos too but their were yorubas there too and they were submissive to him taking order from him like other places including igbos.

@nnamanilota3973

Жыл бұрын

@@beckydaniels1588 Never ever heard or read were Ibos took orders from outside their territory.. 😁😀😁😀😁... I need a webLink on your history and proper references else I dont think your story is true...

This Uche man came for a debate and turned to an interviewer. He lacks the intellectual depth to expose Reno's lies. Someone like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu would have thoroughly schooled Reno.

@ugochukwuagha7699

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you sir

@mtdspfgh

3 жыл бұрын

You seem to equate aggressive and insultive confrontations with sound intellect. Not so. It's exhausting listening to uncivil discourse which sadly, Kanu is an expert in.

@mallam_ifykings

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mtdspfgh That's a very reckless assumption. Nothing in my comment suggests that I've done so. Besides, 'aggression' and intellect are not mutually exclusive. You can be 'aggressive' and still be intellectually sound. Mr Uche has no business talking about Igbo History, knowing fully well that he lacked the intellectual depth to puncture his friend, Reno Omokri's lies.

@mtdspfgh

3 жыл бұрын

@@mallam_ifykings True! You can be aggressive and yet be intelligent but I seriously question the depth of the intellect of folks who throw insults aggressively when communicating. This is especially during formal conversations and on supposedly educative platforms.

@mallam_ifykings

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mtdspfgh The fact that you have a picture of a fellow with a more mellower disposition, in you head, anytime you think about an intellectually sound individual, does not make it real. It's just what it is, "A picture IN YOUR HEAD!"

Mr Reno, I will suggest that you debate with an Igbo man that is on the same level of education and well informed in history like you. Mr Uche is not. Although, he is a nice gentleman that wants love and unity. In addition, I will suggest you take your time to ask questions behind the scene before you grant audience to anyone to discuss history, how it affects us as a people, and it’s remedy. By so doing, the audience will have something meaningful to ponder on. Such as ideas, insight, and concept at the end of the debate. Thank you.

This not a public debate nah. This is about two people just having a convo. Uche had his point as well. People who always claim they are historical, which can always be distorted. What is wrong with this Reno and feeling he knows it all, igbos are emotional my foot. You don’t except people to just sit down and accept you trying to be subjected.

Am never happy when I told the so called Igbo that am an Igbo from Delta, some will be like "you are not Igbo" it's so disheartened. Let unite ourselves. Credit to Reno. If you don't understand, go & make your own research and not opposing his own research.

If Reno is correct then the possibility of the Ibo and the Yoruba having a link in origin will be 90% or even 95 right, i think calmness will be needed and everyone should try and learn something from this.

@damilolalaiyemo1177

3 жыл бұрын

you should find out more about the Niger-congo language group

Reno don't know anything about history

This is more of a student and teacher discuss . Mr Reno are you pure isekiri or mix because I’ve Been seeing comments on Facebook that your father is urhobo that’s why you’re bearing Omokri as your last name.

goodluck jonathan is coming out for president.divide and rule.his coming from one angle but our God no go shame us.

David Altenborough never said the man in the mark was an Ibo slave, Never.. Ibos lived in Benin via Eze Chima a Chiefpriest and there were war between Bini and Agbor and Agbor defended their territory pushing back the Bini, the Bini conquered yoruba territories and NEVER any single inch of Iboland.. Ibos were very very might warriors go and ask the British..

And Reno will not debate with people of high class like Nnamdi Kanu instead he was busy debating with people that will help grow his KZread channel

@CommonSenseNG

3 жыл бұрын

The truth is that Nnamdi Kanu would've ended up insulting and abusing Reno Omokri.

@olaoluolajugbe5811

3 жыл бұрын

@@CommonSenseNG Why would any smart person want to debate Nnamdi Kanu? So he can scream insults and abuse at you ?

@CommonSenseNG

3 жыл бұрын

@@olaoluolajugbe5811 That's the point

@mtdspfgh

3 жыл бұрын

Kanu would have gone on an uncivil and insultive trip of ranting. Can't you see how civil these gentlemen are?

Why are the Igbos against this statement or history? They should send a professor to do a research on it.. It is history and no one can erase it. It is not a call for fighting..from this history, I just understod that Igbos have never been united even up till now.

@stanleyanyadike6898

3 жыл бұрын

Lol...you're funny. You just concluding from this Reno's talk. Reno was the only man talking here. The guy is not a historian

There is nothing sensitive about historical narratives. It is either no Community like that exists in Delta or you are afraid of the rebuttal that will arise from them. Reno is not wrong about his slave story, but, he is wrong to think that Itsekiri's had Igbos as slaves. At the time, Igbos, Itsekiri's, fulani, bini and Yoruba were all into slave trade. There were several slave routes in Nigeria- Badagry, Foccados, Calabar etc the people within these routes were contracted by the Portuguese to capture slaves and sell slaves. It is also false to claim that Igbos had no dealings with the Portuguese, in Enugu, paramount ruler Onyeama, a chief in Enugu traded in slaves. He goes as far as Benue, NigerDelta and Boki in search of slaves. The problem with Reno's narrative is not that it doesn't have truth in it, but, it is lopsided. He needs to balance it.

Uche Chuta I appreciate your effort to stand for Ndi-Igbo but I believe reno knew you were no match to him before hand. Reno, tell us the route these binis & itsekiri slave merchants used in capturing Igbos? They probably used canoes or rafters, abi? or they just 'willy willied' themselves and their captured Igbos. If you say Igbo slave merchants sold their fellow Igbos to the binis and the coastal tribes, and that some of those slaves didn't get on the ship but remained slaves to their bini or itsekiri owners, I will agree! It happened, but you trying to coin it like the binis or itsekiris conquered some Igbo villages and took some of them as slaves is a BLATANT LIE, and MUST BE REFUTED.

The documentary says the bini and Igbo fought so many wars. It did not say the Igbos were captured as slaves by the bini. Also the man with the knife cut was a prisoner with no identity. The man with the tribal mark was just identified as an Igbo with whom the bini empire fought so many wars with and yet could not conquer them. The people that the bini empire sold as slaves were the yorubas and that accounts for the large number of Yorubas in Brazil which is a Portuguese colony. If Igbo were sold as slaves by the bini empire and Portuguese alliance you would have had historical record of Igbo presence in Portuguese colonies like Brasil and Angola. So esence the Igbos pushed back the Bini empire towards the southwest and the Bini empire sold Yorubas as slaves and not Igbos

@ewemadeewemade8138

Жыл бұрын

They sold both the Igbos and the Yoruba

1.

But Mr. Reno you haven't made a point.

@pinnaryokubo3563

3 жыл бұрын

Lol can you argue what was carved 😆 😆 😆 years ago Israelite people blind people everywhere

Why deleting my comment? Not only Benin have warriors in slave trade, Igbos have warriors too and they deal in slave trade. Stop trying to instigate violence between Igobs and Great Benin

He said the Isherkiri can mobilised 100 000 men. My question is, was the Isherkiri up to 10 000 in population then?😂😂. Oga Reno forget this talk

@Trichmedia

3 жыл бұрын

He said the Binis, not itsekiri.. :)

@hammanbanjiram1611

3 жыл бұрын

He said the Binis

Mr Reno your historical story is not complete at all, You're just saying Oba, and Benin kingdom, My question to you is: what is the ancient name of Benin kingdom and who is the first king there? Oba isn't the first king, hope you know

Ibo slaves sold to British via Bonny and Calabar ports were sold to USA, Jamaica, Barbados, Carrabean, Haiti and UK.. Portuguese sold their slaves to Brazil, SouthAmerica etc which where Portugues colonies and they were mostly Yoruba and benin people and never Ibo..

@ewemadeewemade8138

Жыл бұрын

The benins was never sold slavery. The binis was a strong empire

Reno sorry to say, but you speak gibberish. 😂😂😂😂. Lord!!! And he claims being emotional, but can't let the man talk.

Rono go met king of history mezi nnamdi kaun you go no history pass history

Uche you put out your points well, Reno was just divulging on them. The slaves might have been sold to them by Igbo slave traders even not because they raided some Igbo towns. And the reason the Portuguese made there their base was because it was close to sea for easy transportation. You also pointed out to him that almost all the tribes were involved in slave trading. As a matter of fact they sold more of their tribe than the Igbos. I remember the story my father told me, he said he was told that fathers could sell their stubborn sons to slave traders and those traders would sell to the Portuguese /English or to those that deals directly with these white people. It's not about the isherkiri or Benin raiding Igbo towns. So make una end this talk

I am Igbo!!! Igbos are not United…period!!! There is massive possibility that Nnamdi Kanu was betrayed by a bribed Igbo person.

@danielakolite9476

3 жыл бұрын

The truth is always bitter