Psychopathy, Aggression, Violence, and Murder | Which type of psychopath is more dangerous?

This video answers several questions:
What is the relationship between psychopathy?
What is the relationship between psychopathy and murder?
What is the relationship between psychopathy and violent crime?
Which type of psychopathy is more dangerous?
There are two types of psychopathy: Factor 1 (primary, interpersonal affective) and Factor 2 (lifestyle, antisocial) psychopathy. Factor 1 psychopathy has characteristics like grandiosity, pathological lying, manipulation, a superficial charm, callous, unemotional, low neuroticism and lack of guilt or remorse. Factor 2 psychopathy has a parasitic lifestyle, being prone to boredom, sensation seeking, impulsivity, irresponsibility, a failure to have long term goals, poor behavioral controls, and criminal versatility.
HÄKKÄNEN-NYHOLM, H., Hare, R. (2009). PSYCHOPATHY, HOMICIDE, AND THE COURTS. Working the System. CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND BEHAVIOR, Vol. 36 No. 8, August 2009 761-777DOI: 10.1177/0093854809336946
Stratton, J., Brook, M., & Hanlon, R. E. (2017). Murder and psychosis: Neuropsychological profiles of homicide offenders with schizophrenia. Criminal Behaviour and Mental Health, 27(2), 146-161.

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  • @waltertheartist2746
    @waltertheartist27465 жыл бұрын

    Your judgement of the criminal judgement system is crucially valuable.

  • @DrGrande

    @DrGrande

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @joesnelson4041
    @joesnelson40415 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I was in a situation where everyone; my boss, my co workers, the police, my landlord.. everyone.. believed the lying sociopath over me.

  • @user-pb8ec9gy2x

    @user-pb8ec9gy2x

    3 жыл бұрын

    i'm so sorry.. that's truly horrible

  • @MsSilverTulip

    @MsSilverTulip

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, wow. That's maddening!

  • @tablescissors67

    @tablescissors67

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel you. It’s absolutely possible.

  • @lidahall5928
    @lidahall59285 жыл бұрын

    Yes, those who work in the Criminal Justice System *do* seem to think they're better at spotting liars and career criminals than the evidence currently would tend to suggest.

  • @amandarios448

    @amandarios448

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that they DON'T understand the wide range if behaviors that can sound "off" but are extreme states od shock. Then they might also corner a person & they are an authority & they are the side that normally win. So they convict someone who is innocent & convince themselves they did the right thing, so confirmation bias on how accurate they are and in the case the person is ruled out by evidence they think that they escaped but were to blame or are the exception. In their eyes they are always or mostly right (otherwise how could they sleep). That thing about innocent until proven guilty is BS to them its guilty until proven innocent & after being cornered with "we have evidence" BS that is overused & shouldn't really be allowed in most cases. Anyway, they see "guilt" in most people because their job IS dealing with criminals & crime, the worst people in town too. So it's partially not even their fault that their view of things is warped. Just like EMTs are usually on high alert because it's the job, police is jumps on the first sign of redflags because they don't wanna lose a lead. But it means innocent people get sent to jail a LOT

  • @MsSilverTulip

    @MsSilverTulip

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, absolutely! Especially police/army interrogators. They think they're so intelligent when in fact they have no idea about human psychology or how to really read people. They jump to conclusions, "trust their gut" and tend to form a belief early on, and confirmation bias leads them to embrace confirmatory evidence and filter out any evidence that refutes their beliefs. Examples: West Memphis Three, Amanda Knox. Behaviours that seem "off" are not evidence of a crime. Appearing nervous is not automatically a sign of guilt, the person may just be an anxious/panicky person, especially in high stress situations. They may be a victim of abuse by authority figures and now the person is jumpy and anxious around authorities, which may be misinterpreted as guilt.

  • @jak9483
    @jak94835 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos. You are a very good teacher. Thank you

  • @amandarios448

    @amandarios448

    4 жыл бұрын

    I find it a shame that the "famous" cases get so much move views. This is perfectly just as awesome & valuable content.

  • @rickythomas128
    @rickythomas1285 жыл бұрын

    You are by far the BEST psychologist on KZread!

  • @pauline_f328
    @pauline_f328 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video, as always. I love how you practically never talk in absolutes and instead nuance everything, it really helps

  • @sqdtnz
    @sqdtnz5 жыл бұрын

    I had to laugh about the part of police's being able to detect lies.

  • @kathrinjohnson2582

    @kathrinjohnson2582

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too! I think police rely on intimidation and fear tactics to make who ever they was to look guilty, but psychopaths don't react to fear and threats the way regular ppl do.

  • @kungfujoe2136

    @kungfujoe2136

    5 жыл бұрын

    hey if ppl on youtube can do it the police must know it as well. right?

  • @Fcreceptor

    @Fcreceptor

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kathrinjohnson2582 This is exactly what they do. Work you over for hours until you change your story. It works more often than not I'm sure, but we know people have changed their story cause they're tired of being hassled. And many of those are likely convicted as part of their changing story.

  • @kathrinjohnson2582

    @kathrinjohnson2582

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Fcreceptor right .but a person with little to no emotions for ppl would simply regular a cop screaming the same thing over and over at you as a dripping faucet. But a person who is interested in ppl would want to console the screaming person by giving them what they want.

  • @sycamoresally6303

    @sycamoresally6303

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙄

  • @maryholland5255
    @maryholland52555 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this. Really great video.

  • @Angel-iw4ef
    @Angel-iw4ef5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting information as always! Thank you!

  • @cindyrhodes
    @cindyrhodes4 жыл бұрын

    This information is absolutely profound! Thank you, Dr. Grande!

  • @leighanne3266
    @leighanne32665 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your unbiased approach to tough psychiatric diagnoses. I am wondering if you would consider comparing/contrasting someone with an Autism Spectrum Disorder and someone with vulnerable (covert) narcissism or sociopathy. Can a person with ASD manipulate and deceive others? Can someone with sociopathy or vulnerable narcissism be misdiagnosed with an ASD? How can the layperson discern between the three disorders-especially if the person is on the higher functioning end of ASD? I am aware that a diagnosis of an ASD should only occur in childhood and that sociopathy or narcissism should only be diagnosed in adults. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the three very different disorders in an adult (sans co-morbidities.) Thank-you

  • @leighanne3266

    @leighanne3266

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Ben Hackett I am not confused about fact or opinion in regards to autism. My oldest daughter has autism. We live it every day. I agree that there are a lot of people who self diagnose. I don't like that either. It creates fear and further stigma when people who commit heinous acts proport to have autism. It is murky water when reading journal articles comparing /contrasting all of these disorders. I am hoping Dr. Grande can give some clarification. In the DSM 5, diagnostic criteria "C" states, Symptoms must be present in the early developmental period (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities or may be masked by learned strategies in later life). I realize that some people on the spectrum are diagnosed as adults. My daughter was diagnosed at age 2. We are on the same team.

  • @MsSilverTulip

    @MsSilverTulip

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lots of people with ASD, especially women, are not diagnosed until adulthood. They either "slip through the cracks", have patents who are neglectful or in denial, or they are female and present differently than males and learned to mask their ASD!

  • @myYoutube54

    @myYoutube54

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those are completely different diagnosis. One is more about learning nature or inability and difficulty innlearning skill.. the other is psychological. Example; Diagnosis of Dyslexia is about a learning difficulty or disadvantage. Just because people have dyslexia doesnt mean they are psychopaths. There are many who arent as sure as there are likely some who are... To add to my other response to this I mentioned the Anti-social theories & Autism would be one of those conditions deemed like medical health conditions that would make a person be more avoidant or excluded from others. A diabetic isnt going to want to go sucking sap out of sugar maples. It stabds to reason that if people have medical conditions they will not be found in the crowds of many social-lites

  • @VikaS-df9zj
    @VikaS-df9zj Жыл бұрын

    Subscribed. This is the info i need for practice. Gold. Will be watching more

  • @Viralsmells
    @Viralsmells3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for clearing it up!

  • @JenSumma
    @JenSumma3 жыл бұрын

    This topic is so very interesting. My ex-best friend is a nurse and I noticed last year that she was exhibiting covert narcissistic traits. Later I found out about her husband's legal past, which, now I'm suspecting, might have evolved into a couple's sadistic game. I've seen them commit small crimes and the joy they get out of duping people.

  • @dianaboughner7977
    @dianaboughner79775 жыл бұрын

    👍Excellent differentiation. I really enjoy your videos because of the facts, details, descriptions, and your fine opinions.

  • @DrGrande

    @DrGrande

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive4 жыл бұрын

    I always get a lot out of your videos, great information.

  • @lordvoldemort4242
    @lordvoldemort42424 жыл бұрын

    I love your stuff. Keep up the good work.

  • @MasterMalrubius
    @MasterMalrubius5 жыл бұрын

    K really enjoyed this video. It's a fascinating subject and your delivery states the ideas clearly and completely. I thought I had a fine tuned b.s. meter and was completely taken. Skilled manipulators really do use your own flaws and biases against you.

  • @variancewithin
    @variancewithin4 жыл бұрын

    This is SO helpful to making my characters in my story more believable.

  • @graceandfaith869
    @graceandfaith8695 жыл бұрын

    We love your knowledge dr G thank you For helping us understand 👵👴💞

  • @violinistoftaupo
    @violinistoftaupo4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, Dr Grande. I have heard that it's impossible to treat those on the psychopathy continuum but I would like to hear more about those who have had some success in the criminal justice system.

  • @SK_TorON
    @SK_TorON5 жыл бұрын

    According to Jaak Panksepp, Mark Solms and other modern neuroscientists and psychologists studying emotions, the Type 1 and Type 2 violence seem to be associated with two completely different affect systems in the limbic system (there are seven of such systems, each of which is a seat of unconditional instincts in humans and in all mammals: SEEKING, FEAR, RAGE, SEX, CARE, separation PANIC, and PLAY). Type 2 violence (reactive, protection of territory, removal of obstacles, etc.) is associated with the RAGE affect system, and it is also called "Hot Rage". But Type 1 violence (predatory, planned, like "getting lunch", etc.), also called "Cold Rage", stems from the SEEKING affect system which drives mammals to look for resources "out there" (not internally) with a feeling of enthusiasm and general curiosity. So Type 1 violence is like a predator hunting: excitement, anticipation of fulfillment, planning, following an instinctive or experiential procedure , but Type 2 is like a reaction "How dare you be in my way!". There has been a speculation about a third type of aggression, possibly associated with the PLAY affect system - and that is an interpersonal, social competitiveness type of aggression. Like many behavioral correlates of the PLAY affect system, the competitive violence is "not for real", related to social status formation, and can exceed strict limits of play, where it would possibly transform into either the Type 1 or Type 2 aggression.

  • @SK_TorON

    @SK_TorON

    2 жыл бұрын

    @DonaId J Trump Thanks, Mr.(ex)President 😉

  • @ok-kk3ic
    @ok-kk3ic5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the videos.

  • @DrGrande

    @DrGrande

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are quite welcome!

  • @pauline_f328
    @pauline_f328 Жыл бұрын

    "It tends to help them become better at manipulating people, including the mental health staff" H.H. from Lolita (the book): "Lmao I just convinced the therapists I saw I had a bunch of disorders I don't have for fun, can't believe they fell for it" That's what it reminded me of lol

  • @monikafangirl3926
    @monikafangirl39262 жыл бұрын

    You are a very helpful doctor.

  • @vincentford9254
    @vincentford92544 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. I love your channel!. Would be interesting a ed kemper analysis video. I think he isn't a pure psychopath case.

  • @wilsonledet3405
    @wilsonledet3405 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video. It's very informative

  • @ThatBipolarSaga
    @ThatBipolarSaga5 жыл бұрын

    Great info as always Dr.! Your presentations nail it! Would you pretty please do a video on Michael Jackson? Thanks for your consideration:)

  • @waltertheartist2746
    @waltertheartist27465 жыл бұрын

    Scary. Understatement

  • @Craigevansagain
    @Craigevansagain4 жыл бұрын

    Now that was a very surprising statement about psychopaths being convicted of lesser offences than they should have. I always thought that the vast majority if not all of psychopaths would have been convicted of the true crime that they actually did.

  • @hopetriedit4448
    @hopetriedit44485 жыл бұрын

    I learned something new in your video. I wasn't aware that there is a difference between predatory and affective offenders. Very interesting. I don't have a criminal justice background. I have a BS in psychology and an LMSW. I am developing an interest in forensic work. However, I'm not sure how to "break into" that field. In my last job, I was an inpatient psychotherapist and later on moved to a position at the facility in their partial hospital and intensive outpatient program. I'm ready for a change now. 🤔

  • @strongdan1
    @strongdan15 жыл бұрын

    thanks todd the big

  • @frankenz66
    @frankenz665 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @guyfromthe80s92
    @guyfromthe80s925 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another great video Dr.Grande. Will you do a video on the schizophrenia spectrum and suicide rates?

  • @DrGrande

    @DrGrande

    5 жыл бұрын

    I will add it to the production list - Thank you so much!

  • @guyfromthe80s92

    @guyfromthe80s92

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a bunch!

  • @jan-martinulvag1953
    @jan-martinulvag19535 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I have to get away from my girlfriend

  • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

    @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oopsie woopsie

  • @izelvos2033
    @izelvos20333 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been wondering what the difference really is between factor 1 & 2... thank you! Would you kindly consider addressing Haltlose PD/Psycopathy? I am absolutely fascinated!

  • @lydiaw7343
    @lydiaw73434 жыл бұрын

    Very Helpful Videos! Could you consider doing a video on the difference between Psychopaths and sociopaths?

  • @EdurtreG

    @EdurtreG

    3 жыл бұрын

    That meaning the difference between a disorder and a p.d.? What is that difference ?

  • @sg-cg6lr

    @sg-cg6lr

    9 ай бұрын

    This IS that video!

  • @cb2363
    @cb23633 жыл бұрын

    I did like your vision of criminal judgement system, thank you for your time. It would be interesting a video about the different names about the two kind of psichopathy and their origins. There are really a lot. Moreover, there is a lot of confusion in the media use of these words.

  • @Anastashya
    @Anastashya5 жыл бұрын

    Such an interesting topic, but one that always seems to leave so many questions. Does a psychopath know they are different? Do they feel love, attachment etc etc etc? I guess I’d like to know their inner mind, inner thoughts and interpretation of their own identity. From my point of view, each type of psychopath you presented can be equally dangerous in their own way! I found this video very deeply intriguing Dr Grande. Thank you ☺️

  • @DrGrande

    @DrGrande

    5 жыл бұрын

    You are quite welcome :)

  • @babblingalong7689

    @babblingalong7689

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think as they mature they do develop a sense of being different, but they might not care about that.

  • @MsSilverTulip
    @MsSilverTulip3 жыл бұрын

    More true crime content, please. It's the best.

  • @erikahoule344
    @erikahoule3442 жыл бұрын

    Have you done a video on why people watch true crime shows and the impact these shows have on individuals and society? If not, I'd love to hear what you have to say on this matter.

  • @fin183
    @fin1833 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video, thank you. What I want to know is can witnessing verbal and emotional abuse between parents and then splitting (not divorced but living separately) at a young age cause ASPD? I ask this because this has happened to me and I have almost all the characteristics of factor 2 psychopathy. I'd be very grateful if you could answer this :) I'm going to copy and paste this question in the comments section of other videos of yours I've watched in order to hopefully get an answer.

  • @tablescissors67

    @tablescissors67

    Жыл бұрын

    Ever get an answer? I’d suggest some predilection might need to exist, although I could think of TWO sociopaths I encountered that did experience this (though one was related to a person who went through the same divorce/separation and did not turn into one). Perhaps a parent with NPD is more likely a factor in such a situation?

  • @avalonmist254
    @avalonmist2544 жыл бұрын

    As a long term health care professional who has been illegally searched seized beaten set up with marijuana and breech in the Chain of Custody, excetra ...could you do a video on the increase of psychopathy in the Police and overall judicial system...I could really use more information concerning this problem in our society.

  • @DooryardEd
    @DooryardEd5 жыл бұрын

    How would one go about getting a diagnosis? Is this something any therapist would be able to see or would someone need to seek out a specialist?

  • @AnikoLK
    @AnikoLK5 жыл бұрын

    I think behavioral therapy is the only way to go with people with antisocial because it has to start with something simple like you do with a 3 year old. If they want this they have to behave like this and bad behavior is not acceptable and will have consequences. Also to show them what their behavior looks like from an outside point of view, to expose the truth about it. Then work on coming up with different behaviors that work for them and society and talking about the benefits with them. What do you think?

  • @pauline_f328
    @pauline_f328 Жыл бұрын

    I've read that helping children that have the signs they might grow up to be psychopaths has been helping, but without many details, if anybody has info about that

  • @freiagalacar5786
    @freiagalacar57862 жыл бұрын

    Whats the best way to know if someone is a primary/factor 1 psychopath? My dad has high machivellian and primary psychopath traits but he is very low in sociopathy/factor 2.

  • @lorimav
    @lorimav5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the differences between the 2 types of psychopathy are distinguishable on brain scans as supposedly the psychopathic brain and the non psychopathic brain are distinguishable.

  • @kathrinjohnson2582

    @kathrinjohnson2582

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes the amygdala is usually much smaller in many psychopaths. That causes the higher threshold for pain and little reaction to fear. So when most brains see fight or flight which translate into the emotions anger and fear the psychopath sees only fight NOT flight.

  • @raelkaz7828
    @raelkaz78285 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you, I wanted to know do people become psycohpaths or are they born this way?

  • @DanOC1991

    @DanOC1991

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would also be interested in this.

  • @engleharddinglefester4285

    @engleharddinglefester4285

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think they're born this way, they don't have the mechanism for empathy in their brains, it's like a birth defect. Scholars will argue it's not a birth defect...

  • @qvaken8142

    @qvaken8142

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@engleharddinglefester4285 I dunno though. I've got a book, The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog and Other Stories From a Child Psychiatrist's Notebook by Bruce D. Perry and Maia Szalavitz, and he describes a case in which two sons from the same family were treated very differently when they were little and got very different outcomes. When she only had her first son she would take him everywhere with her, including on her daily walks. When she had her second son she was no longer coping with her new situation including a crying baby, so she would leave him at home to cry by himself while she went out on her walks with her first son only. The first son grew up to be a very sociable and empathetic guy who was easy to get along with while the second son became troublesome and unempathetic from the time he was very young. This was made worse by the fact that as he grew he was put into places where he'd be around other unempathetic people, like schools for kids with behavioural problems. So I think that empathy is a skill that can be ingrained from a young age, or never taught.

  • @engleharddinglefester4285

    @engleharddinglefester4285

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@qvaken8142Yep I had an NPD mother and became Cluster B myself until joining AA at age 27 and I've been trying to grow my empathy ever since. Empathy is one of those things that you can feel is missing. Poss. has everything to do with feeling empty and like you can't connect. It really pays to be able to understand at the soul level how someone else is feeling.

  • @matilda4406

    @matilda4406

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@qvaken8142 that example highlights developmental abnormalities and the issues of how one is raised, not born. Too often children are born very normal with infinite potential only to be raised with such cruelty.

  • @RipMyTamagachi
    @RipMyTamagachi3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dr Grande, I was wondering if you could do another video, going into more depth about how people, with the proper help, can actual function with psychopathy? There's a lot of black and white thinking about this and though I don't think we should just trust all psychopaths by any means, I think it's important to know they aren't all a bunch of Bundys and Daumers.

  • @tablescissors67

    @tablescissors67

    Жыл бұрын

    They have to find a way to focus their abilities and get that ego stroke they crave WITHOUT causing major harm. Psychopaths are commonly found in fields like CEOs, surgeons, and can even make effective individuals who bust other criminals (see: Catch Me If You Can).

  • @jolly7728
    @jolly77282 жыл бұрын

    Because the violent attack is aimed at a stranger who appears to possess the attributes the attacker is known to be biased against, it appears that a crime motivated by bias against someone owing to an immutable characteristic would comprise both categories of psychopaths, Factor 1 and Factor 2. As a result, the victim is both a stranger and someone the attacker recognizes, that is, a "familiar stranger." So, we could now say there are three types of psychopathy -- Factor 1 (stranger), Factor 2 (acquaintant), and Factor 3 (combination of the first two).

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Жыл бұрын

    My community can't do enough for these people.

  • @EgaoKage
    @EgaoKage2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure if this would qualify as its own category of violent crime or murder but, the desire for revenge is often something that psychopaths have a very difficulty time resisting; even rising to the level of a compulsion, in some cases. In general, psychopaths are believed to experience less general-anxiety than do non-psychopaths. However, psychopaths do describe feelings of anxiety, while attempting to resist the urge to seek revenge. The stronger the compulsion to seek revenge, the stronger the anxiety they feel while attempting to resisting that compulsion. This too would scale with the spectrum mentioned in this video. So, if they experience less anxiety, in general, they may have less experience in coping with anxiety, categorically. And therefore have an even more difficult time not yielding to that anxiety, when resisting the compulsion to seek revenge. This is not based on any published research, that I know of. It's just something that I've observed and given some thought to. Any thoughts on this theory though?

  • @abiolakolawole1753
    @abiolakolawole17532 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video but I believe the criminal justice guys & law Enforcement officers can actually detect lies very well, the issue here is you may know someone is lying but you don't have the capacity to prove it which is is an issue. Thank you for the video.

  • @sarahhawke5729
    @sarahhawke57292 жыл бұрын

    The problem is more psychological cause the impression I get is that once being diagnosed a psychopath or sociopath (ASPD) seems to fall under a possible future murderer in the making but, there are plenty of other challenges out there that do not involve killing, I think that impulse control suits me well and is effective for that reason it seems more difficult for a person whom exhibits ASPD to question him/herself if emotions or other criteria isn't at play but to then assume they would probably turn into jailbait is a bit too much, I think a lot of them might think this too as society according to the law system expects them to fail so there's mistrust just because you're diagnosed a psycho doesn't mean you're a killer

  • @lorimav
    @lorimav5 жыл бұрын

    What resources are there for therapists, people involved in the CJ system, and us laymen who simply want to protect ourselves, for detecting lying and psychopathy?

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    A small minority of people are high in psychopathic traits, but all people are capable of some psychopathic behaviours, and more generally hateful/selfish behaviour. You best defence is to become a strong judge of character and to be aware of humanity's capacity for choosing the low road.

  • @bluekiwi1239
    @bluekiwi1239 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe you could do a video on how to STOP attracting Type 1 and Type 2 Psychopaths. I’m ready to find an old priest and a young priest to get rid of the magnet attracting these evil men to me!

  • @attheranch873
    @attheranch8733 жыл бұрын

    Got it 👍

  • @darrynreid4500
    @darrynreid45004 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for the time that must go into making these for people. I do think we would better refer to "predatory violence" as "parasitic violence"; it appears to me the latter is more accurate and, furthermore, doesn't have the same noble connotations ascribed to top predators in nature.

  • @LoneWoIfPack19
    @LoneWoIfPack192 жыл бұрын

    Would factor two include someone who perceives a situation as a subjective threat, claim self defense, understand they were in the wrong, but still think they shouldn't be held responsible. I know this is probably a dumb question, but I only take college courses for the subjects I am interested in...abnormal psychology, film studies, criminal justice, etc.....but I don't want i hey into act of the field as a career. I like manual labor.

  • @TwoBassholesandaKaren7107
    @TwoBassholesandaKaren71075 жыл бұрын

    The criminal justice system tends to dismiss victims testimony because of inconsistencies and changing parts of their story. We know this is part of the effects of trauma on the brain. Would be nice if the criminal justice system would catch up with the science.

  • @cammiek3348

    @cammiek3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    And female judges seem to blame women victims...ugh:/

  • @kathrinjohnson2582

    @kathrinjohnson2582

    5 жыл бұрын

    True! I would settle for them catching up to commonsense yet alone science or psychology. It seem all they keep up with is making lots of money.

  • @SokiHime

    @SokiHime

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cammiek3348 Female judges are critical of a victims role in the situation. Make judges have the social pressure of being called a sexist.

  • @cammiek3348

    @cammiek3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kathrinjohnson2582 My complete narc x pretends he owns the company (he's a manager), name drops, uses family living in coveted zip codes and his own zip code to look good for judges. Then, he'll straight lie about me in letters to judges! He fakes his innocence about abusing my daughters, though I've showed my free attorney and court officials PHOTO proof of his abuse to them and their school called CYS AND the police on him. But, just because he plays the privileged white boy card, he gets away with attempted murder!!!

  • @cammiek3348

    @cammiek3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SokiHime My boyfriend felt so guilty (not the narc x) and told me to press charges on him (I think it was a cry for help). He also admitted he didn't know what caused him to suddenly attack me (I believe drug & alcohol induced psychosis). So, I pressed charges and he's following the court orders, never blamed me or tried to deny the charges. But the courts won't let us communicate or even let him apologize! The judges straight lied to him when he asked to communicate, saying I'll get mad at him for something stupid and send him straight to jail:/ I had already told the da to drop the charges, and the judge should have known that. She didn't even know I was sitting in the courtroom because the previous judge had subpoenaed me to be there! My boyfriend and I haven't spoke a word since he told me to press charges, 4 1/2 months ago! I'm remaining loyal out of fairness because we can't even communicate to break up or work it out. The courts are treating this honest yet broken man like pond scum, yet he's the only man to be protective of my kids and treat them like human souls, not throwaways like their dads. They see me as a pondscum loser single mom (only as a byproduct of narc abuse by their dads!) It's not fair at all. The court workers just want to look good to people who act rich and entitled. .

  • @Douskizzy
    @Douskizzy5 жыл бұрын

    i have a question because i'm both 1 and 2 why am i like that and a few more things that are weird is i twitch and love feeling pain and love seeing people get hurt and getting into fights can you answer my main question why am i like this and i laugh when i feel pain or i get angry it's kinda like a movie i think and my second question why do i like to see blood and smell it and drink it i will drink my own blood erm... so what do i do?and when i hurt someone i feel nothing like my emotions are taken like i'm emotionless and when my dad died i did not show emotion but when i watch a sad movie when someone dies i cry why is that?and when i get angry i become like 100 times violent and when i'm not angry i'm still violent and i did not watch all of it cause i started to get pissed off so that's why i'm commenting i'm at 7:55 so yeah

  • @boogieman2198

    @boogieman2198

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look into borderline personality disorder, movies usually don't effect the socio or psycopath. The worst nightmare for a psycopathic woman is a borderline male, they often end up killing the psycopath out of rage.

  • @genuinehearts8247
    @genuinehearts82472 жыл бұрын

    Horrific.😔

  • @timmyleary9232
    @timmyleary92324 жыл бұрын

    Brutal

  • @ajmaeenmahtab8456
    @ajmaeenmahtab84565 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dr Grande, I appreciate your work. It have been very useful. But I also listen to Sam Vaknin who says that Narcissistic personality disorder cannot fade away or cannot be healed in most cases but psycopathy can be healed and can fade away. What is your opinion on that.

  • @ajmaeenmahtab8456

    @ajmaeenmahtab8456

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rum-ham credentials like?

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Psychopathy is not a disease that can be "healed". Someone high in psychopathic traits may have a combination of character flaws, schemas (i.e. ways of seeing the world), behavioural compulsions and even trauma in their background. But most of all, they're likely to have a genetic predisposition. So, can you heal "who someone is" through birth? No, you can't; but with some of them, you might help them to learn to mitigate their worst behaviours and adopt a more flexible and prosocial way of getting what they want. It might even be possible to in some way to nurture a seed of damaged, deficient empathy in certain cases--then again, maybe not.

  • @jamesosborne2305
    @jamesosborne23053 жыл бұрын

    What are the differences between pathological lying in both psychopathy and sociopathy?

  • @yourmom6366
    @yourmom63663 жыл бұрын

    Just because psychopaths are capable of killing doesnt mean they will. Ppl with psychopathy weigh a situation to determine if it's worth it. If they get so much as even a slight yes then your in trbl. Psychopaths and sociopaths talk about themselves and repeat themselves and their stories. They dont care about your stories. The psychopath just wants to fill the time even sociopaths do because both get bored. They also just want to fill that need to be social but at the same time stay distant. They stay distant because they dont care or in the case of a sociopath they care about your safety from them. Mainly because it makes them feel less then. A psychopath may avoid something so you cant use that flaw against them. Like a moral code. They'll break it if you push far enough though and then your in trbl. Both have rage etc. The difference is a psychopath has more control over it. A sociopath has less control. They have fluctuating emotions and it throws them off so they arent capable. A psychopath is capable to a degree. If you provoke a psychopath though if they feel hurting you outweighs the consequences even slightly. Well your in trbl. Also the reason some psychopaths dont kill sometimes for life is they have better control as well as intelligence. The reason for this is they realize that even though they may not like you for example because your gay. They also know that there will just be one more and eventually if they get caught will lose more so then their dislike of you. A sociopath could be the same intelligence however and they wont be able to resist if a sudden change in what they are feeling or something going on that triggers them. Also psychopaths are more maintainable if you have something they consider of value for however long it's value is valuable to them over what your asking for.

  • @blupen3785
    @blupen37853 жыл бұрын

    So Insight treatment like group therapy focused on personality change actually help psychopaths enhance their manipulation tactics. For some reason, I just couldn’t help but laugh. I laughed when he explained how people in the Criminal Justice System actually believe they have this super power called Lie Detector.

  • @dominicktaylor6898
    @dominicktaylor68987 ай бұрын

    I check all boxes for factor 1 and factor 2 and I don’t know how to feel about that. 😂. I suppose I don’t care but still it’s weird because I always knew something was off.

  • @susanastevens4963
    @susanastevens49635 жыл бұрын

    Standing outside the proverbial bubble of accepting a theory as fact I wonder what is a universal view of self. For example such as a theory of personality in the U.S. as opposed to a construct for this as found within a very different cultural viewpoint accepted of self. For example as in an Asian culture that emphasises the group rather than the individual.

  • @maskedidentity2498
    @maskedidentity24985 жыл бұрын

    I've been diagnosed with ASPD, how do I know what I rather fit into?

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people get diagnosed with ASPD--it could be anyone who has a couple of convictions, even for minor crimes, on their rap sheet. It's a broad church: having the diagnosis of ASPD does not mean that your traits are strong enough to put you in the same league as true-blue psychopaths and sociopaths. It just means that you've crossed the threshold into repeated, even habitual criminal behaviour of some degree.

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    (In other words, that label is based on observed behaviour, whereas a determination that your inner world correlates with marked abnormality requires a professional to understand your inner world, and not to rely on behaviour that they can see. Oh, and psychopath/sociopath are not clinical terms so you would have to try pretty hard to find someone who would give you the "psychopathic personality" specifier, and they would probably work in forensics at the intersection of law and psychology.)

  • @iamevil8582
    @iamevil85824 жыл бұрын

    I have been drawn to this video because I see myself in this disorder am not a psychopath I feel empathy for some of my family but know one else I can see a dieing child on tv and not feel a thing I can manipulating I am able to get away with things am really carm tho and don’t get angry but I have done bad things that I know were bad but I didn’t care is there eny thing else am not a narcissist I hate myself is there eny over disorder or mental health problem you know of that fits this case thank you

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's called "the human condition". Taking a few examples of where your behaviour or thinking was selfish, callous or whatever just shows that you have a personality capable of behaving in this way, not necessarily a personality disorder. Posts like yours exemplify why so many people "self-diagnose" as this-or-that disorder or mental condition: they cherry-picked a few examples, adopted a black and white interpretation, and then tried to medicalise their choices or views. Most people who do shitty things, or whose feelings don't always line up with what's expected, are just people. (Oh, and hating yourself does not rule out you having a narcissistic disturbance. You'll find that narcissists often harbour self-loathing and an inability to be compassionate towards themselves, which is why they compensate externally. They often also lack self-awareness...)

  • @cassandras7399
    @cassandras73994 жыл бұрын

    Which type is more dangerous? The one you’re around.

  • @EvonRomano-ge2og
    @EvonRomano-ge2og Жыл бұрын

    Interesting, my psychopathic mother (who literally attempted murder on myself and one brother), sent me to a psychiatrist when I was young. He seemed to suggest I was being poorly parented so she pulled me out and became his patient. Over the course of four years, as his patient, she convinced him that SHE was a victim of abuse at the hands of my father and brothers. The psychiatrist coddled her as she had affairs, took all his money, divorced him, and abused my brothers. After awhile she sent me back (I was an adult that she was having trouble manipulating and she wanted the psychiatrist to help her manipulate me). Around that time (after four years), the psychiatrist had figured out that she had antisocial personality disorder and was actually very dangerous. He then pulled a cool move by encouraging her to go off on her own and let my Dad return home to raise my brothers. It ended well, Thank God

  • @annboholana5025
    @annboholana50252 жыл бұрын

    Sir do you have Facebook page I want to ask something about secondary psychopathy

  • @Laone08
    @Laone084 жыл бұрын

    While listening to your opinion of over-confident law enforcement personnnel dealing with psychopaths, I had two cases come to mind. The first is where the interrogator seems to do things just right in the Russell Williams, a Canadian Military base commander, sexual assults t& murder cases. I felt the interrogator handled Williams correctly & got results rather fast. In comparison the cam girl addicted Grant Amato interrogators did seemingly everything wrong, including sitting in a huff when Amato didn't cooperate. The interrogators were obviously caught lying to Amato abt all the evidence they said they had bc it wasn't shown to Amato, so Amato didn't take it seriously. The male intedrogator was sitting in an angry/frustrated huff & basically throwing a toddler tantrum when Amato wouldnt take the (bogus) lifeline the male interrogator was offering to essentially be on his side as long as Amato tells him the truth. Annoyingly & showing he was out of his depth, male interrogator kept repeating how honest & good his police career has been any time they couldn't get anything from Amato. He did it like 4+ times! (I honestly began to feel bad for the male interrogators spouse bc I felt he would act the same way iat home if he didn't getnhis way.) Not only did I feel the male interrogator was terrible, but he seemingly revealed his "playbook" of sorts about leaving the room (if you watch the interrogation, you will know what i am referencing), returning, changing seats, etc. The interfogatoe may be good at getting certain criminal types to confess but someone who has special training with psychopaths should have been called in. It was painful to watch the cops in that interrogation & seeing the male cop repeatedly tell Amato he can tell in Amato's eyes & body language he wants to confess, his body language shows he is guilty & all the evidence they (claimed to) have against Amato not work, repeatedly! I kept wondering why they didn't bring another interrogator in once it was obvious (within 1st 30mins) they wersnt dealing w/ an ordinary criminal. Amato is imo a classic psychopath as he tells his brother he essentially had no remorse about stealing his father's hard earned savings, his father's retirement, stealing credit/debit cards feom his family, secretly double mortgaging family home etc. He wasn't sorry, he didn't care, as long as he was able to fund his $10 a minute cam girl "relationship." The Amato tape should be shown to cops as what NOT to do when in room with suspected socio or psychopath. Personally I felt they should have put a car to follow him & got more evidence against him before bringing him in. Interestingly neither Williams nor Amato ever broke a sweat nor seemed anxious while confronted with their crimes. I have seen multiple interrogations where the suspect goes pale, or limbs start gesticulating wildly, or color drains from their face, or viewer can tell suspect is nauseus & some almost look like they are a moment away from hyperventilating, including cops accused of murder & sex crimes. I've seen sociopaths evsn have some of the physical responses mentioned as anxiety & dread of being caught becomes real. But these two men sat as calmly as the sea after a storm & were not bothered by anything they had done. I would like to request a comparison btwn the two examples from law enforcement mentioned above, what worked & why, what didn't work & why & also how police forces should train members to interrogate socio & psychopaths. Thank you! (Plz pardon typos. I tried to catch them all but I'm almost blind & unsure.)

  • @vkrgfan
    @vkrgfan4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your analysis. I just had a debate with some people on FB about gun violence in the USA and how dangerous it has become because guns sold without thorough mental evaluation. People with ASPD will pass basic mental evaluation with ease. Majority of mass shooters are young men with anti social tendencies. I don’t think any of them were properly diagnosed though. I wonder if you could make a video on this topic.

  • @YouWillBe322
    @YouWillBe322 Жыл бұрын

    If I think of the woman that raised me, almost all of the mentioned characteristic is applicable. But she is very predatory, for example, she goes out of her room and stands in the dark; tapping and channeling a lot, and tracking my inner self. Later what information or emotional values to her she gained will be used to patch the personality that she is developing to trick her surroundings for a better grip on our society so she can control it. At least this is what she pretends to do, but she also has no remorse so every time she loses this opportunity, she just starts over and like nothing happened even gets more creative if that`s the case. She did a lot of poisoning, for example, putting mercury in my father's soup, poisoning my sister (which resulted in her losing her hair), and once even me. The thing is that she has this advanced approach to controlling people and no remorse for others, there is no way to bring her down. I emailed the Police even though there were plenty of reports from our GP showing her psychopathy, she somehow obtained those folders when we moved and took all of them out of it. But left one, that tells my sister after poisoning and was placed in a hospital started to gain her hair back, and when sent home she lost it all again. I saw her adding a very strong residue she obtained from her workplace into her soup and even mine, and later me having it changed to water. That was a bad idea, though because later, she turned very violent with me and well I barely survived. If I have to guess she is currently using her victim`s personalities to interact with people, like a mask of sanity.

  • @Angel-iw4ef
    @Angel-iw4ef5 жыл бұрын

    To say or not to say... ok I'll do it. Recently I started to have unwanted homicidal ideation. It's like I met another person who also lives in my body that seems cruel, calculated, vengeful, angry and has the homicidal ideation I was talking about. All the characteristics in the same time. I have control over it, but I'm afraid that I can lose it. It also leaves me so drained, depressed and I feel a lot of guilt for those bad thoughts and emotions. I just wont talk about this with any doctor...hope it will go away. So afraid of becoming one of them, or am I already?

  • @cammiek3348

    @cammiek3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    Listen to audio bible KJV videos. Sometimes anger comes from a righteous place. Sometimes your named symptoms are caused by spirits that need delivered (1/3 of Jesus' ministry was deliverance of devils.) Following this has a good success rate, Jesus came to "save" us from curses and devils. This is also a good way to stay out of the "system". God Bless!

  • @Angel-iw4ef

    @Angel-iw4ef

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@cammiek3348 Thank you and be blessed too! A good word it means a lot to me. I am feeling dehumanized because of some life circumstances and the gates to my soul are open for evil spirits. Thanks for the advise also!

  • @cammiek3348

    @cammiek3348

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Angel-iw4ef Also, anger is part of the trauma healing process. Read up on Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Educate yourself on the aftermath of abuse. It will help you to make sense of things. God Bless!

  • @lightningbug276

    @lightningbug276

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please Do talk to your psychiatrist.

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    First of all, don't be dumb: you don't put stuff like this in writing on the internet, where it can potentially be traced back to or attributed to you later in life. Delete it immediately. The appropriate place for airing concerns like this is in the professional, confidential bounds of a relationship with a psychotherapist, who can take account of your life circumstances and help you to explore why you feel as you do and move past it. Your thoughts are compulsive, ego-dystonic, and also not that uncommon. There's nothing psychopathic about what your are describing, nor is there in vomiting it out on the internet or being precious enough to edit your message to be more accurate/contain fewer typos.

  • @nayadev8351
    @nayadev83512 жыл бұрын

    My brother is a possible murder and we dont know what to to with him .... since he was a kid he had nightmares and wake up at night speaking like and old woman ... then he have some paranoia .... 2 months ago he hited his girlfriend ... we are scare

  • @georgehunter2813
    @georgehunter28135 жыл бұрын

    Which type of victim is most dangerous to psychopaths?

  • @rubberduckie5518

    @rubberduckie5518

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably another psychopath or even a borderline personality. Narcissistic personalities usually crumble if a psychopath is harassing them.

  • @johnmadack6738
    @johnmadack67383 жыл бұрын

    100% perfect i am 100% type one story of my life basically

  • @TwoBassholesandaKaren7107
    @TwoBassholesandaKaren71075 жыл бұрын

    The problem with rehabilitation with psychopaths is that they fall back on the trait when it’s convenient for them. They tend to not be able to ever come that and the path of least resistance is taken. To create a little empathy for how hard it is for them to change think of any change you have tried to make in your own personality. It’s very difficult. Policing the self leads to a lot of leniency for bad behavior and it’s not only psychopaths who do that. :)

  • @markcaseon7136
    @markcaseon71365 жыл бұрын

    Psychopathy is an adaptation to modern enviroment, it is not a mental illness.

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea, except for the fact that there is no evidence that it developed in reaction to modernity. In fact, it has almost certainly always been with us, just less well understood. It is also behaviour evidenced in chimpanzee communities, with which human apes have much in common.

  • @Messi-102
    @Messi-1023 жыл бұрын

    Doctor, are psychopaths aggressive, do they attack people, or do they just mind their own business ???

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Жыл бұрын

    Depends on who dies.

  • @ButtSnorkler9000
    @ButtSnorkler9000 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve recently had the realization that my brother is a psychopath. When he was 13 I realized that he puts on different personalities for different people. He is extremely charming when he wants to be and very effective at manipulating people and has turned my parents against me multiple times. The only emotions he’s ever showed are anger and frustration when he doesn’t get his way and he gets violent when someone calls out his manipulation. He expresses hatred towards cats and dogs and other animals. He is an extreme substance abuser and addict. He’s believes that he’s going to be a drug lord or something some day, when in reality he’s just an unsuccessful drug dealer. He lives a parasitic lifestyle and has complete emotional control over my parents. He is extremely entitled. My grandma had grandma was schizophrenic and my uncle committed suicide and he pretends he suffers from these as well to get the family to give him anything and everything, but it’s obvious that he only has “episodes” just often enough to keep my parents supporting him but not enough to actually effect his lifestyle. I recently had the police do a wellness check when I thought he was in psychosis but he was able to turn it off and successfully convince the cop that I was in the wrong. You can’t just turn off psychosis. He threatens to Jill himself whenever my parents start suggesting he support himself, now he’s claiming agoraphobia to stay at their house. I also recently learned that he beats their dogs when they’re not home. My grandma said he had a dead stare then threw a chair near her and had glee in his eyes. I called him out for being emotionally manipulative and abusive to the family and now he has threatened to hurt me and has actually been walking near my house between 2 and 5 in the morning, so I think I’m actually in danger. It’s hard to get my family to listen to me because we all get so emotional. I’m going to file a police report and try to get a restraining order but im worried I won’t be successful because of how good he is at manipulating law enforcement and our family. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for these videos Dr. Grande, they’re very helpful right now.

  • @tablescissors67

    @tablescissors67

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey there, how are you, how has it been going lately?

  • @theesovreignshannonnicolepage
    @theesovreignshannonnicolepage4 жыл бұрын

    Is it the aggression, violence, or the murder that is too psychopathic for you?

  • @OpenSecretsMomAnon
    @OpenSecretsMomAnon3 жыл бұрын

    Anyway you can cover Garett Kirts? 3 Interviews on my channel... would LOVE your opinion

  • @kathrinjohnson2582
    @kathrinjohnson25825 жыл бұрын

    Haha the 2 👎 are from psychopaths 😆 Great video!

  • @LuckyTheTherianAndFurry-Cat
    @LuckyTheTherianAndFurry-Cat2 жыл бұрын

    Did you know I’m almost completely a pyscopath

  • @johnmadack6738
    @johnmadack67383 жыл бұрын

    no one who has those traits would ever talk to you unless they had absolute immunity no way you get a real real killer for fun over than money

  • @qiuwbr091
    @qiuwbr0914 жыл бұрын

    When psychopaths lie to medical staff so they can get out of criminal charges it can become really depressing. Anabuse abusers in my opinion are some of the worst. Judges can be lied to and often only draw out self abusive deaths by giving the active liars chance after chance. Buddha isn’t laughing. Well I guess therapy comes in many different forms.

  • @malachimoore1101
    @malachimoore11013 жыл бұрын

    my fav hobby smoking a blunt n watching ur videos😂

  • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346
    @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis43463 жыл бұрын

    The granny was so creepy bcs more unusually for someone with faktor 1 psychopathie she consumed her own family members

  • @aardvark1956
    @aardvark19563 жыл бұрын

    With insight-oriented therapy and the failure of the therapist to accurately assess the success of rehabilitation, is the deluded therapist a narcissist? Does he have an inflated (false) view of HIS ability to assess, HIS method (s) to treat, etc.? Doesn’t the therapist actually have a fair amount wrong himself? Is he going to get much of a reputation if he says “I’m not sure how to do this,”? 🥴

  • @edgargarred4319
    @edgargarred43194 жыл бұрын

    So factor 1 psychopaths (predatory, cold) dont murder/harm people that they know?

  • @crazycatmama2909

    @crazycatmama2909

    4 жыл бұрын

    They can, however uncommon.

  • @pyujeh6207

    @pyujeh6207

    3 жыл бұрын

    They do, as in the case of Ed Kemper, Mary Ann Cotton, etc., but they are more likely to calculate that the risk of getting caught is lower if they don't shit where they eat.

  • @perkinss9706
    @perkinss97063 жыл бұрын

    I'm confused here,are you talking about the president?? 😬

  • @audreydaleski1067
    @audreydaleski1067 Жыл бұрын

    Ppl s is are going to allow the system to force them to become used home care workers. On what planet?

  • @bored4161
    @bored41613 жыл бұрын

    Friendly reminder for anyone that got the impression from his part on law enforcement that you can lie your way out, YOU ARE LIKELY WRONG JUST BECAUSE INTERROGATIONS ARE ALWAYS AGAINST YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, even if innocent if they suspect you your interview literally can’t be used for your benefit, it’s part of your Miranda rights, anything you say can and WILL be used against you, get a lawyer life isn’t a movie

  • @bored4161

    @bored4161

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to take away from what you said you’re totally right :)