Another tip I would like to add is to increase initial layer flow. I use 110% and it solved all of my issues.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

this means it's putting 10% more out on the first layer as I understand it? Not sure if cura adjusts the line spacing for infill to compensate for it...have you tried doing a large square area to see if the extruder backs up and starts clicking or you get ripples? If it doesn't do either then you should be good to go! 👍

@SchwartzMonster

2 жыл бұрын

This helped a ton too

@DanShirley

2 жыл бұрын

yes. it was this for me. washed glass 3 times, nothing. changed .2mm initial base height to .4mm initial base height in the creality slicer. maybe thats over kill but my first decent print is rocking since i assembled the ender 3 v2.

@odeball22

2 жыл бұрын

there is 2 spots you do this in Cura, quality and material. Also Cura does adjust the spacing. Lost in Tech, a very good adon to get is Settings guide in Cura.

@LordDeShadow

2 жыл бұрын

I'm having trouble with the first layer so I'll try that. Im also having some issues with my print. After a few layers the PLA makes a little bump and once the nozzle go back there things turn to spaghetti. I've been wondering if slowing the dual fans might help. Btw I have a brand new Ender 3 Max with CRtouch installed and an updated firmware with more settings.

LISTEN TO THIS VIDEO!!! As a new user I had no idea what to do. I tryed using adhesive helpers such as glue stick. What I did is took a kitchen towel and just whipped then turned the heat up right after and now it sticks.

@arnolduk123

Жыл бұрын

so you turned the heat up, that was your problem then.

Well I wasn't expecting this to work but I tried it anyway cleaning it with some off the shelf glass window cleaner and the results were incredible. Thank you so much for this. It has transformed my print quality with no more warping on the bottom of prints from poor bed adhesion. :)

I just got the glass bed and have been wondering about this, perfect timing!

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

You won't want to go back, it's a total game changer! 👍

I did not realise my greasy fingers impacted the adhesion so much... Thank you so much!

Thank you!! I THOUGHT I had it clean.. apparently not - I finally got fed up with fighting with it, took it to the sink and washed it thoroughly in warm water and dish soap, rinsed thoroughly, preheated to 70.. now it works beautifully. Solid adhesion and falls right off when cooled

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

awesome, always good to hear the success stories!

@fedakine

2 жыл бұрын

Same case here!

Thank you so much for this life saving tip... I got the Creality glass and replaced the original bed with it about a week ago, wiped it thoroughly with isopropyl alcohol (!!!) but unfortunately was straggling with non sticking printed parts since. Your advice worked like magic. Apparently the IPA couldn't really clean whatever came on the glass from manufacturing but the dishes soap and water did. So thanks for sharing man, I almost gave up and you made my day :)

@chazbennett7771

Жыл бұрын

This comment makes me feel more enthusiastic towards the video, I've been using IPA and it hasn't been changing much and now I know I should use something else

Awesome information. Spent hours trying to figure out the problem with my ender3 v2. Your solution fixed it(half water half rubbing alcohol and a drop of dish detergent worked great)

Washing it in the sink with dish soap and rinsing thoroughly was the only way I got mine to work after lots of frustration. Now it works awesome, and the occasional cleaning renews the surface again. A few minutes extra of pre-heating won't hurt either if you are having issues with adhesion.

This solution was so simple I was mad that I didn't think of it. Nice wet rag and a preheat at 80C and ran a few test prints to cure the bed and it now sticks well. Appreciate the advice it saved me from tossing the thing. Also found running a little hotter on the first layer helped a lot, that and keeping the bed at 80C has helped in the initial adhesion.

Bloody GREAT Instructional !!! My bed was level - my filament dry - everything was squared And yet I couldn't even get a easy 1st layer to print WAS DRIVING ME INSANE !!! You saved my printer and my brain !! SPANX my friend !! (P.S Sorry about the exclamation marks - but seriously - YOU ROCK!!!)

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to be able to assist 👍

Can’t wait to try this, I’m losing my mind with this bed plate.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, we've all been there. :)

Just tried this on my ender 3 V2!! Everything sticks now thank you so much!!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

excellent!

I may try this in the future, but right now, using the bare glass bottom with no adhesives or anything is working amazing for me. Thanks for making this video though, as I was quite frustrated when I couldn't get anything to stick right out of the box.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm new to FDM printing (have some experience with resin printers) and was banging my head against the wall on my Ender 6. I tried cleaning the nozzle, replacing the nozzle, replacing the Bowden tube, checking the esteps and kept getting spaghetti prints. I really thought I had an under-extrusion problem, but it was a bed adhesion issue! Some Dawn dish soap and then raising the platform temp to 70 degrees made all the difference!

@mitchvik1711

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan, I have the same printer...same issue. So wash bed with soap and prime to 70 degrees with a test print, then for subsequent prints you can go down to 60? Or always print at 70?

@ryanbecker6584

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchvik1711 I’ve been sticking to 70 for the whole print. In the creality slicer you can change the temp in advanced settings, or if you just want to use the simple settings you can change the temp manually right after you start the print using the printer UI. I’ve been printing duct / pipe adapters and they print beautifully and after cooling they come off without any effort. If you have more surface contact it may be more work to release the print.

I was skeptical at first but I gave it a try... I washed the bed with warm water and soap and... o my god! The print stuck immediately! Thank you man you are the best!

Wow. Knew that it was important but I was not expecting that it can help that much. Thanks for the encouragement, thanks for making me believe in bed cleaning again! :D

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

maybe it's just me, but if I've touched the bed then that spot becomes like teflon until I clean it 😂

Flipping and raising the bed temps definitely worked for me

Thank you so much!!! I thought my bed was hopeless!

Not going to lie, you are probably the ONLY ONE who gave me a solution to the problem! I had washed it and even did light sanding to no avail. The moment I saw your video and primed the bed to 70 degrees.......IT FREAKING WORKED!

Thank you!!! I've been struggling with my Ender 3 V2 glass bed and my prints not sticking to it. Nothing would stick to it after I printed a few prints. Hours of trying to get it to stick and nothing worked. I tried cleaning with IPA and it didn't work. It only worked for me after I watched this video. I used liquid dish soap in addition to the water because it is supposed to cut grease on glassware - so it should work the same on a glass bed. Well I did it and the PLA now sticks no problem. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Fitted new Creality glass bed and tried all the methods to get it to stick with no luck. almost gave up on it. Thank you for this video your explanation was spot on, this bed is awesome.

Thank you so much!! I just got my third CR6SE and noticed the finish of the bed was different to my other 2 when they came out of the box. Tried printing 3 times and each time the print would start lifting after a couple of layers. Couldn't figure out the problem, everything else in terms of settings, filament etc was the same as my other two. Saw your video this morning and it's now printing beautifully! Thank for sharing and solving this problem 😊

This helped for the first couple prints and then stopped sticking again... **UPDATE** Turns out the glass bed that came with my ender 3 v2 had a few manufacturing issues. 1: the glass was warped in the middle 2: textured finish was all wrong. I have received a replacement glass bed from creality and now it sticks EXTREMELY well. (so well that even at 20 degrees my prints won't pop off. I have to stick the bed in the freezer for 5 mins to get my print to pop off) I hope this helps anyone who has the same problems as I had.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Finger prints?

@oldgregg2057

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D I've never touched the bed once. I use a blunt plastic edge to remove my parts if they are not tall enough to grab

son of a gun. I spent the past hour on my new glass bed trying to figure out why it's not sticking. I used alcohol as everyone says but that didn't work. I just gave it a good scrub with paper towel and water and now its working.

Wonderful! Just got it new and it printed a few times before nothing would stick. Washed it with soap and water and now it's fine again.

I switched back to the magnetic as I had so much trouble with it not sticking. Great info, going to pop it back on.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Both bed types have advantages, something I'm covering in an upcoming episode, so much so that I run multiple printers with multiple bed types, so if you don't get on with glass...it's not that big a deal. That being said...it is hands down the most convenient. When it works. 👍

i have start using Painters tape on my ender3 glass bed...And damn! this work amazing!!!! Super tight prints that stay nice and flat on the bed.sometimes with high prints I also use the tape to fix the print even better on the bed and so you prevent less vibration the end result is a flat and tight printed object.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

I use it on plain glass beds on other printers and yeah it works pretty well, but it's a pain to keep having to change over...I guess I get about 30 prints before I have to swap it so it's not that bad 👍 But it takes me ages to get it lined up neatly. What colour do you use?

YES!!!!! I discovered that myself. I was using glue stick with a little water but one day after doing maintenance and washing with dishwasher the bed I never had to use glue stick again. I discovered that no matter how much you wash your hand after 5 minutes your healthy skins oil are back. And micro dust is another one. Now I always cleaning with a super clean wet (be careful to not damage electronics) sponge before a print, does not matter if I just printed something or not. No more problems with any type bed sheet surface anymore.

I had that bed in my ender 3 and it never worked as intended, I cleaned with isopropyl alcohol, I manually level the bed, I installed a bl touch, I changed the springs, but it failed most of the time.. The object didn't stick to the bed or I had to lower the nozzle so much that almost scratched the bed, so at the end I gave up. I changed it for a magnetic PEI sheet and it worked like a charm, it also has the advantage of been really easy to remove the objects.. The only downside is if the bed is not flat, the sheet follows the shape, but nothing that some aluminum foil at the center and the bl touch automatic adjustment can't solve

@boss302nard

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been having trouble with some larger prints lately even after cleaning the bed with IPA. Turned the first 2 layers up to 70c and subsequent layers to 60c and voila. The print that failed 3 times is sticking! All other prints up to this point have been at 50c but I’ll keep trying this technique. Thanks!

@Keyno77

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the very same route as you were because I can't get adhesion unless I use glue stick. I have added yellow springs, lock nuts, jyers bltouch UBL and even 3 washers to compensate the plastic bracket that holds the bed wiring. I have washed the bed with dish soap and alcohol and no luck adhering not counting the many hours trying to get a perfect bed level down to the .001 mm. The only thing I have not tried is priming the glass bed to 70 degrees if that doesn't work I'm going to get a magnetic flexible bed when I run out of glue sticks since I bought a bulk pack from walmart that was on sale.

Been printing on Borosilicate glass for years no "special" coatings.. For PLA is REALLY simple as you covered. Clean it - I used rubbing alcohol and it gets very clean. Make sure bed is level!! Print first layer about 10-15C hotter than the rest of the layers. (Will vary depending on ambient temp in room) Have had very good luck with this.. Noticed printer works better when ambient temp is about 24-27C (75-80F)

100% Agree. Currently doing a master chief suit and have quite a few 5 day prints coming up and between every print I clean my Bed with IPA or Denatured alcohol and with a minor z Height adjustment I have 0 worry a print will come off the bed. If you are still having poor bed adhesion even after cleaning and you have leveled using a piece of paper I found the z height still to be to far away. For me spacing with paper had me at -2.61 but after a few test prints I landed on -2.77 so just using paper may not be enough ( or I just grabbed thicker paper some how). Just watched your TPU video and can't wait to try it out once the rest of the suit is finished, want to do some joint pieces in TPU.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah totally, paper just gets you "in the ballpark". The video I'm in the middle of editing right now is on exactly this - bed leveling!

This helped alot especially this my 1st print and my print didn't stick to the bed , but now it did, thanks alot

As someone who only got one of these beds a few days ago; thank you so much for this video, and the one about leveling the bed on an ender 3 printer. It made me reconsider the already applied hairspray, and after sitting down for a bit tweaking the levelness and temperatures a bit, I think I dare claim I now own the second most level printbed I've ever seen. Adhesion is amazing now, and I've never had such beautiful first layers. Again; thank you so much!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

In the end, what did it for me was setting the first layer speed to something REALLY slow, like 5 mm/s - boom, prints adhering like crazy.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, a slow first layer really helps, although I tend to do more like 15mm/s for pla, if 5 is working then keep doing it!

I found why every print kept failing. I always printed with a cold bed and it always peeled and I would have never thought that it being clean would make such a big deal. My ender 5 thanks you and so do I

So far, this solution has been working wonders although I did put some hairspray. My glass bed wouldn't stick to anything unless I use glue stick. The only problem with glue stick method was that it was extremely hard to remove the item once it was done. I used the bird whistle as my test print and as soon as the bed was cooled down, it took it off with ease. Thanks for the info!

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

yeah one of the big bonuses for me with the glass bed is how it never needs cleaning or rework other than a wipe now and then. It's almost maintenance free when it works properly!

@Kleberei

2 жыл бұрын

Glue Stick is very easy to remove. Use a microfibre towel and ... water. Glue Stick is water based, it does not come of with alcohol/iso ... had to learn that the hard way :)

Thank you so much. I could not for life of me get anything to stick, just kept sliding around everywhere. I was using IPA, and even tried hairspray, and it made it worse. Took it to the sink. Washed with warm soapy water, rinsed, dried turned it on and print stuck like glue. Impossible to get off hot, I was using plastic scrapper to jam prints off. Let it fully cool and came off by just blowing on them pretty much.. YOU DA MAN!!

3:25 "If you're wondering what the coating on the bed is, I have no idea." It's called Nano Polymer Adhesive.

You rock! Simple soap and water. I had read several reviews that said the new. bed on the Ender S1 Pro is crap, just replace it. Your solution worked fantastic! Thank you so much!!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Well done sir I love all my glass coated beds I’ve never had an issue prolly cause I’m a lil ocd when it comes to cleaning things of course I naturally clean all mine before use . I’ve heard so many peps having problems with them and never understood it ❤️🙏🏻 we are all one

i cleaned it and everything and was frustrated it never sticks. been printing on the non coated side for a while now until i got annoyed of the glue and need of cleaning it. so i restarted figuring things out and i can't believe the solution was raising the bed temp from 40C to 60-70C. i might have missed that in the manual but man i'm glad this works now

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't know why they don't put it in the manual, and the worst part is, the models on the included sd card have bed temp set to 50 I think!! Genius 🙄😂

Get a microfiber cloth, they are made to wash glass without leave any trail of dirt. Then get cold water on it cloth, since cold water is more clean the hot water from tap. Then heat your head to 65*c and then start clean the plate when its at the warmest. it will dry up superfast, and because it turns the water hot it removes anything.

Awesome mate! I spent the morning figure it out why it wasnt sticking. Leveled ten times, changed settings etc... And I cleaned it with water and dried it and it worked like a charm! Thank you!

I’ve been struggling with the CR6-SE for two days. One print out of the 20 I’ve tried actually went well. I’m going to try this in the morning and cross all my fingers. Also gotta find the right temps and settings for this PLA+ I picked up. It works flawlessly on my Ender 3 but the CR6-SE just can’t handle it at all with any temps I’ve tried.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

controversial opinion but I tend to avoid PLA+, I've either had bad PLA+ or it's a lot harder to deal with than plain old PLA.

@RynoDBones

3 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D Yeah, I'm not enjoying it at all. I may have found the right settings for my combination of printer/filament. Been printing over an hour with no issues. I'm really hoping I finally got things dialed in.

Derp, I'd already watched this and then completely forgot it because the LK4 Pro glass bed is completely different. Then I bought specifically this kind of Creality bed, and had to Google why glue stick wasn't working, which led me right back here.

Cheers! I had the "magnetic sticker" flex print bed which was fine, but then a warranty failure had me getting sent a whole replacement heat bed and flex surface, and I thought "what the heck" and ordered a glass plate for it. And had the exact same issue. I used IPA, and in the end I turned it over and used the glass side. But when I went to wash off some of the glue stick I ended up having to use, I washed both sides with warm soapy water, and just for the sake of completeness, tried the coated side again. They must ship it with some protective spray that resists IPA, because it's been good as gold since then. NOTE: I was using bulldog clips to hold the glass down, which as it turns out aren't a good fit, and after ripping off a silicon sock with those, I ended up getting the 7mm flat SS clips similar to yours, and now consider them to be essential kit for a glass surface, too. Good channel, just followed your Twitter bio here and I'll look around a bit over the next few days. Thanks for making these vids for us!

This glass bed and a BL touch or just some type of auto bed leveling solution is great. I changed my mounts to silicone and I havent had to level it in 10 months

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

I've been tempted to install my bltouch for ages now, but at the end of the day I guess I do videos and I have to keep at least one machine close to stock to be able to show stuff to beginners/new users. Maybe when (if) I start making money off this lark I'll be able to run enough machines to mess about with this stuff more...and crazier things!

Doing the dish soap/70° “seasoning” by itself didn’t solve my issue. HOWEVER, combining this method and using PLA initial layer settings of 210°/60°/0.28mm and dropping to 200°/50°/0.2mm did the trick beautifully. Using Creality Ender 3 upgraded coated glass bed plate.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

I use 210 these days too, I find 200 doesn't quite cut it for some recent filaments!

@JamieHarveyJr

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve since been using the glass bed upside down on the pure glass side. For most parts I just clean with 70% rubbing alcohol before each print and the bottom finish is like a mirror. Let it cool to room temp before removal and the parts fall off. For tall parts with more height than surface area, I just apply some glue stick if necessary (90% don’t need it). The smooth glass finish on the bottom of the parts is just unreal!

@SkDragon360

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jamie, when u mention initial layer settings of 210°/60°/0.28mm you mean filament/bed/initial layer? or speed? thanks in advance to you or anyone who helps :)

I just got a glass bed and the print failed 5 times(after cleaning), each time i tried a new setting. THEN i turned the bed temp up to 70 and WA-LA, It started sticking! Good suggestion!

@whatif8741

3 жыл бұрын

I have cr10 v2 and I get mine to stick at 50°

@JeffJackson86

3 жыл бұрын

@@whatif8741 really? Last night I had a hard time getting PLA to stay on the bed because the nozzle would push it up as the next layer was laid d on one side. I'm thinking the bed was too hot. Any tips?

Great advice, worked like a charm!!

This also works great on a lot of PEI sheets... new or after they "loose stick", even the textured ones, dawn dishsoap and the veggie scrubber FTW... turns out that stuff really does cut the grease.

I just love how direct you are and your style haha, this channel is extremely underrated

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

I've done the maths! I'll get 1 million subs by 2090! :)

@Tsnafu

3 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D Well you've just gained another one off me (number 666 !!!) cheers for this, brand new to this 3d printing lark and I had no idea if it was something I'd done (or hadn't done) - giving it a scrub worked and Benchy is printing as I type.

i never understood why some use glue stick on a coated bed, i have the creality bed too and i agree, clean it and never ever touch it, you touch, you clean :), i did switch over to PEI powder coat, sticks amazing too but i do still love my glass bed and use it occasionally

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

yeah at the end of the day both surfaces are the best option you can get at the moment! Ideally I would have one printer with each ;)

Great video! Also, in my opinion, don't use alcohol (IPA) to clean up the bed all the time. It takes off the light yellow coating from the surface and it turns to a normal glass bed at the end. Just microfiber cloth and water is enough. That's why people complain about the first layer adhesion problems after some time using the creality's ultrabase. Also if you already ruined your bed, you can use sponge sandpapers with fine grit to get a better bed surface and increase the adhesion area of the print. Good luck!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting...I've never seen this yellow stuff but other people have. I think it's a wax ish sort of thing because the printer I'm looking at now smells sort of waxy when it heats up. The more I know about this stuff the more I realize how little I know 🤣

@ermanas1

2 жыл бұрын

​@@LostInTech3D We all feel this I guess after a milestone, we learn sometimes with blood, sweat and tears 😄. I experienced this when I was trying to wipe the glue stick from the ultrabase, I didn't stop until I see the yellow color on the towel 😄 By the way I really liked your investigations content, I'm following the same technique to understand the effect of the parameters to the print quality. Keep it up!

after using my glass bed for about 3 years now, i am getting adhesion issues. cleaning it did little to help. i found one suggestion to sand it down a bit - worked like a charm.

Just got mine.going to try this

I've also had mixed results with my bed on the V2 when it was new. Glass cleaner and 90% isopropyl seemed to help but little parts would not stay on. Blue masking tape solved it for me but I will try your solution when the tape wears out.

thx for the tips! after some trys, it works! some note i want to make are turing the print bed temp to about 80 makes the first layer stick easier

damn ive been frustrated for hours about this issue thank you for this video!

Thank you i got a new Glass in Dec and did not get it to print at all and thanks to i use window cleaner and the results were incredible

dang this actually worked thank you!

Excellent content! A while back I purchased an E3 V2 with the Creality glass bed, and I've had little to no issues with adhesion. Such a great experience, I purchased the Creality glass bed for an E3 that is kicking around. Though the beds look identical, the one on the E3 is nothing but adhesion problems that no amount of cleaning will fix. Swapping the beds between the printers, the adhesion problems follow the separately purchased bed. I seriously suspect QC issues and judging by the number of folk who complain, and the number of folk who claim it's the greatest bed ever, it would not surprise me if there was a bimodal distribution of satisfaction with this product.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

This is the first concrete evidence I've seen, and I think you may be absolutely right, I suspected this myself. Do you mind me asking where you got the bad bed?

@gnomangnoman2501

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D Purchased from Amazon/"Creality 3D Store" who were nice enough to send out a new one (not yet received) to replace the bad one.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

gotcha - thanks for the info and do let me know here or on social media how the new one goes (replies to posts don't notify creators, I had to look for this specifically, so bear that in mind if I don't reply, it's because I haven't seen it 🙄)

@gnomangnoman2501

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D I've had the replacement bed going for about a week now. Happy to report the replacement is not displaying any signs of adhesion problems. The "pattern" from the glass surface is definitely more pronounced with this one, but there is still the option of using the other side and hair spray to get the absolute smooth surface on the bottom of a print ;)

@davecook2584

2 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with gnoman's statement "I seriously suspect QC issues and judging by the number of folk who complain, and the number of folk who claim it's the greatest bed ever, it would not surprise me if there was a bimodal distribution of satisfaction with this product." I am new to the 3D printing world but as I am sure most people do, I have climbed deep into this rabbit hole. My first printer was the Creality CR-10 v3. It came with the coated glass bed and I have had no problems getting anything to stick to it. A little temp tweaking was needed with PETG and PLA+ but nothing extreme. I just picked up an Ender-3 v2 to add to my new collection and I can not get anything to stick to the bed it came with no matter what I try or how much I have cleaned it. The E3 glass does not have the same texture of coating on it that the CR-10 glass came with. The E3 glass is much smoother and the CR-10 glass has a more coarse texture to it. Like 400-600 grit sandpaper. I ordered a new glass plate from the Creality Store on Amazon thinking I would get a similar textured glass bed like the CR-10 has but what I received feels the same as the original E3 glass and I cannot get anything to stick to it either.

I legit just got a pane of glass, thanks creality for not giving me what I needed

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Wait what? 🧐

Work So Good 👍 Make Everythings Clean First before print

I have an Ender 3 v2 with its standard glass bed. The first couple of prints after setting up the printer didn't stick. I first thought it must be me not able to level it, but after I washed the glass in warm soapy water I had no issues and was able to print 15 - 20 small pieces (one at a time). Then it started to not stick again. I washed it again and prints were sticking again... What I then did was after washing once more I put a small amount of glue stick down and then used a little spray bottle with 50% IPA, 50% water and a drop of fairy to wipe the bed down spreading the glue evenly into a very thin layer. After ever 3rd/4th print I wipe with the solution. Haven't hat to wash it again in almost 6 months printing nearly every day.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Are you touching it? 😂 Seriously though I do see this myself, but I wipe (quite hard) with paper towel and it seems to sort it. If glue stick works for you like that then it's an interesting thought, especially if it retains the properties of glass i.e. easy removal!

@DogWsd

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D Yes bed cools down to around 35°C and the prints 'fall' off...

doh! that explains why it suddenly started working really well, lol!

I had given up on my Creality glass bed, regressing to glue stick. But following your tips together with 110% initial layer flow, 210° initial hotend temp and 70° initial bed temp worked wonders. Thanks alot!!

I clean the bed with Thinner (Alcohal) and it works like a charm. Its dirt and oils from hands which prevents stickiness.

Ok trying this right now. Ive had this bed for two weeks fighting the adhesion!!! Im ready to throw this bed out my window lol!

@rayurena3789

2 жыл бұрын

thank you so much this worked and now I love this glass bed!

On my ender 3 (mk 1) I use a glass bed made from an old picture frame glass. I find this is flat (the bed isn't), however I have to clean it every time I print. I use windowlean glass cleaning spray and a tissue. Seems to work every time. Of course for difficult small prints I use a raft just to make sure.

Thank you for a very, really very important helpful video. I knew before that the ultrabase does not like fingerprints and other dirt (however, like any surface). After unpacking, I rubbed the surface with rubbing alcohol and made some prints. Not perfect adhesion of the first layer, but enough to print 4 parts (6 + 4 + 1.5 + 1.5 hours). I typed 55 degrees on the table. But the next part has already ceased to stick normally. although at first the layers seemed to stick, but with the next passes the nozzles next to them began to come off. I started watching KZread) I saw in one of the comments that medical alcohol seems to corrode this surface and it is necessary to dilute it at least 30-50%. Some use gasoline. I started thinking if I had time to spoil the surface. I saw your video. I just wiped it with a wet microfiber and raised the temperature of the table to 70 C. I don’t know what exactly helped, temperature or cleaning (it seems the surface was not dirty, but maybe microfiber cleans better mechanically), but the first layer has already adhered perfectly! Thank you!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad it helped! 👍

After spending hours repeating these steps and looking for other possible solutions I finally gave up and ordered bed weld off of amazon... wish i had done it sooner.

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

There do seem to be cases where people just can't get it to work and I simply don't have enough data to know why yet. Glad you found a solution anyway. 👍

I use the smooth backside of my glass bed and anything below 60c my prints will come loose....that is IF and when I can get the first layer to stick. I had washed the bed fresh out of the box with warm soapy water and wiped with alcohol after install and been having nothing but trouble with getting anything to stick consistently on either side of it, have to sit and babysit the whole first layer for issues and check on it every half hour until I see it has several good layers down 🙄 definitely going to try the higher bed temp and see if it helps.

@beware_the_moose

2 жыл бұрын

In my experience it does help a lot as the plastic is well into its glass state at that temperature, i.e. very soft, but do let me know how you get on. Also make sure initial layer height is at least 0.2mm in the slicer, that also helps for calibration. Good luck!

The anycubic ones, which is the original brand that mae this kind of coating, work extremely well refreshing it from time to time with a mixture of cleaning vinegard + a good glue stick. Just a little glue in the mixture so is not noticeable. Then it sticks really strong and comes off when the bed is cold. Anyway normal cloath isn't the best option to cleaning it in the long run since the reason of stuff not sticking is the small pores are dirty, is more of regular day maintenance, a dishes cleaning sponge works better using the spong or the scrapping part depending on if you're doing mantainance or it needs a more intense cleaning. Also they are really dependant on having the exact distance from the bed right, depending on the layer height you're printing.

@arnolduk123

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the glue dries when the bed is heated so the glue is only providing a textured surface and not any kind of sticky tack for the print to stick to.

This video fixed all my problems. No need to use hair spray or painters tape. Was with Dawn dishwashing soap. Preheat to 80. Prime by print large area. Repeat two or three times. To remove projects just but bed in refrigerator and they pop right off.

I really wish I knew this before I damaged the coating on mine. Now that I've compromised it just flakes off with little effort and my parts never stick. Really frustrated it wasn't explained in my printer's manual.

I personally use hot soapy water (dawn, used to remove oil and grease easily) and a sponge (not the scrubby sponges, the soft ones) and when it gets dusty , because it will, I use a clean 'dust pan brush' to sweep off debris and dust. Not touching it - at all - with your hand/fingers is key, or anything splashing on it (soda, tea, whatever) Ive tried a variety of things, but this and 're tram/level it' are the keys. the increased flow is... useful if you just have to (but beware the elephants foot) Big prints are another story... still have some warping with them. Too much heat difference from the part/hotend/bed to ambient air - might just have to enclose it.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

I usually find a 10 loop brim solves any large parts from warping

yes I concur. It feels like there is something on it that does not come off easy

Funny enough, after 6 failed prints on the glass bed I have cleaned it with alcohol as another solution. Then I start looking on youtube for solutions and this is the first video that pops up. We'll see in 3 hours if this works ;)

@LostInTech3D

3 жыл бұрын

how did it go? 👍

@twoaf3261

3 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D 8 failed prints down... It is something else I have noticed with the hot end knocking the print. Cleaning the plate has definitely helped though, it stuck on there longer this time :)

Gotta try this. Have had no luck to date with glass bed on ender6 and resorted to glue stick

Installed the creality direct drive on my Ender 3 Pro, and my adhesion basically sucks rn, literally can't even use it. This vid inspired me to go try and fix it, again lol.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Otherwise, how is the DD? I have one, waiting for me to find time to fit it. It's the creality version, also

@JDMsohc

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D I actually just installed it, after having a Bowden setup for about 2yrs on my Ender 3 Pro. I haven't had a successful print yet, but I really didn't tweak much because PrusaSlicer kept crashing. Going to try Cura 4.11 and see if it helps me out. I'm sure it's probably just a setting that I'm just unaware of, because my prints have been flawless up until now.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

I assume you changed the esteps in the firmware?

@JDMsohc

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D I actually just redid my esteps and printed an XYZ cube. It came out pretty damn good! Only two issues persist, one being that I used a brim to try to avoid curling, and sure enough, the corners of the brim curled up slightly, totally lifting one of the first layers off the print bed. I'm curious if the second issue is belt related. Right under and right above the X and the Y, there is a noticeable change in the print quality on the cube. It's as if the filament gets shinier or something, but it's definitely noticeable. Uploading a video now.

@JDMsohc

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D kzread.infoYeT8hjJiYaU?feature=share

I've been having a helluva time getting adhesion after going from the ender 3 pro to the creality coated glass

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

There's some faulty glass plates, this is known now. If nothing works and you're doing everything right, you probably have one.

@Geek82

2 жыл бұрын

Well that's nice to know!!!! I've been going crazy! Will test out the soap and water cleaning method and try a large flat print to get it going. I already have the first layer printing at 207 and 70 then after that down to 200 and 60. That got me the best results but still not sticking how it should.

Awesome video! After using my original build plate almost non-stop for the last few months, it has progressively seen more and more leveling issues. The glass bed is being delivered today, so doing extra research. If I'm understanding correctly, just water and micro fiber cloth to wipe it down, and heat and print a large model? Should cure and prime it up really nice?

hahaha nah, i got just a tiny bit of hope because of how confident you spoke. my newly arrived cr6 is unusable, must be something severly wrong for nothing to stick to it whatsoever. not even the glass backside.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, it'll work, keep trying. Check my bed levelling vid to make sure you're close enough. Glass takes some getting used to.

@depopa1033

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D i have the cr-6 se with automatic bed leveling, its not that hard to go up and down so ive tried almost every z offset, despite the nozzle almost digging into the bed the filament is still not sticking.

@depopa1033

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D i take back everything i said and apologizes, after trying to clean it over 10 times it finally sticks and i even cleared the 4th stresstest! thank you man

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

good to hear, and no apologies necessary 👍

Man, I was about to sell my brand new glass bed, which replaced the original one, because all the test prints went terribly wrong. No chance by cleaning with isopropyl alcohol and microfiber cloth, which usually does the job very well for me. Instant success after watching your video, however. Thank you very much! Why don't they put a note into the box?! This could prevent customer frustration.

Thanks for the helpful video. My prints still won't stick the bed half of the time though. :(

I have the Voxelab Aquila, which of course is a Ender 3 V2 clone. My ed is as standard the Silicone Based lass one like the Ender uses. The online printing discord lot I am in always states I must clean the glass with IPA. So I do and I now use glue stick on the glass when doing PETG as it has already taken out of the smooth side some tiny lengths of the glass when model was taken of even when it was cooled. So I taken to using glue stick even with PLA now using the other textured side which is not damaged. Every once in a while I wash the glass i hot soapy water to get the built up glue off then rinse it off and let air dry. I was thinking of buying a new bed in the form of the flexible metal PEI version. But that is very pricey in the UK. I have a Tronxy X5SA printer which I can't use as I had tons of leveling issues with as having 13 inch square ed area and 6 bed screws means it is a pain to level, and the Auto leveling system just does not level the 1st print layer even after doing 40 auto leveling runs, the Blue magnetic sensor they done is useless it seems to only detect the metal under the bed no amount of adjustments sole this? Tronxy have released a new lack sensor which people said does work with all surfaces now glass, metal, PEI, in fact everything.

I've been having troubles with fillament sticking and haven't been able to make a simple square (circles are completely fine), here's hoping this works for me!

Thank you for the video, it makes me hope for this bed adhesion but I'm not to the point it is acceptable yet. First, is it mandatory to print on the all bed to remove the coating? Should we do it only once or every tie we clean the bed? Secondly, is it sufficient to clean the bed with cold water and microfiber between each print? The behavior I notice is that the first print after big cleaning (take out the bed and clean with water and dish soap) works nice, and each print have less and less adhesion. I was using a mix of 50% water 50% white vinegar but I guess like IPA it's worst than just water

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

No the idea of printing something on the bed is really just an initial priming. You should not have to clean it often either if you don't touch it. Some creality beds appear better than others so my recent advice is that if the bed continues to misbehave even after following these steps, it may be worth replacing it.

After I failed 4 prints on this stock glass bed WITH adhesion spray, I decided that I cut myself a 4mm thick plate of aluminumium and IT JUST WORKS. I can rapidly cool down the bed under running cold water and the parts just fall off with pristine finish. I will be VERY hesitant to go back to the stock "well engineered bed" since I already had 100% success rate* with the bed made from scrap. *) provided I didn't forget to spray it first

Today I spent like 6 hours trying to figure out why my Ender Neo wouldn't print anything other than that spaguetty mess (like in your video though I didn't have the nozzle like two miles from the bed lol)....Anyhow I calibrated and recalibrated like ten times, changed the nozzle and so just oredered some fixative and voilá! perfection. But I did notice with the glass bed that the cleaner and the hoter, the more the chances. Someone else talked about increasing the flow to 110% and I was experimenting with that it helps too. So I guess with those 4 things (70c first layer, clean surface, 110% flow, and fixative adhesive) or a combination of two or three or those then filament should stay down.

Glue stick is the best thing ever, It is cheap acts to hold the print to the bed and acts a release agent after the build to prevent the print from taking up chunks of glass when the print is removed ( ask me how I know about this) ! Glue stick is the EZ button

Wow... Thank you so much for this! Have you printed with anything that needs a higher bed temperature like pla +? Would it need a higher priming temp or just preheating? Ta!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Pla+ is nothing special really, just treat it like pla and raise the temperature if it needs it, I'm fairly convinced a lot of it is just the same but with a plus for marketing.

Just got an Ender 3 V2, so my first print, the demo lucky cat, I used the provided scraper while still warm and it was a fight. Luckily no damage, buy fail for Creality for no directions.

New ender 3 v2 glass plate, cleaned it also tried glasscleaner. Heated the bed. Nothing works. However the gluestick trick is briljant!

@arnolduk123

Жыл бұрын

don't use glue stick, try sugar or syrup and water mixture. I found the glue stick drys on a heated glass bed and looses it's stickyness. the sugar gives a shine to the bottom print but I dont like that so wash it in water afterwards.

I have been struggling with this so much! I have 3 ender 3 max, all with this bed, all work amazing, bought a cr-10 smart, and it came with the same style bed, but so damn slippery! Nothing sticks, and I have done the warm soap and water. Gonna try again I guess. Thanks for the info.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

It's a larger glass so make sure it doesn't dip in the middle I guess, can't think of any other differences so it should really work!

@Delta9Church

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D actually, the cr-10 smart ships with a 300x300, same as the e3 max. Can almost interchange the beds except the maxes are about 6mm larger on the y axis. I have a spare bed so I may try rigging something up, and i am strongly considering a light sanding at 3000 grit to rough it up just a touch.

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry yes I was thinking of the standard ender glass. If you do use an abrasive on it, please let me know what happens, because it's something I have wondered about!

@Delta9Church

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D I sure will!

@Delta9Church

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D okay, so probably a little ahead of myself, but I gave it a sanding at 600 grit, not too hard, but definitely enough to rough the entire surface. After that I cleaned it well with warm water and dried it. My immediate observation is that it worked fantastically, though I may encounter problems on release, so I will pop back after this print finishes and let you know, but so far it is perfect.

Thank you Expert! I have the very same glass bed and he same print phenomena occurred! I resorted to glue sticks and TaDaaa! Worked fine! After cleaning the glue stick off, a brilliant and another simple vid by Older Guy With An Impressive Beard Channel, the sticky white just fell off! With hot water and fairy liquid! (Other bubbles are available*) This advice Mr Expert, Sir, means I am already ready to print au natural! Brilliant! Ta very muchly!

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help 👍

I really hope this works on my Ender 6, because I'm about to give up on it.

I remember those bird whistles at Six Flags in Texas BACK in the DAY...

@LostInTech3D

2 жыл бұрын

I'd never seen them before, but I'm not very observant to be fair 🤣

@rayge

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInTech3D 🤣