Proof Heroes are NOT Worth Upgrading! (Clash of Clans)

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Are Heroes Worth Upgrading after the Release of Hero Equipment in the Town Hall 16 Clash of Clans Update? This is question that has been posted a lot on the Clash of Clans Sub-Reddit. In this video, Kenny Jo provides an example of Level 20 Heroes with Max'd Town Hall 13 Equipment Vs a Max'd Town Hall 13 Base, the results will surprise you...Also included in this video is recommendations for Hero Potion usage, Ore Collection, Elixir & Dark Elixir Spending Options and Magic Item disposal. Consider Subscribing for More Clash of Clans content.
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  • @KennyJoGaming
    @KennyJoGaming4 ай бұрын

    As Clan War Leagues comes to an end and another Town Hall 13 F2P Series coming soon, I wanted to test a theory I was seeing mentioned on Reddit, “Should we focus on Hero Equipment Upgrades more than Hero Upgrading” and was very surprised by the comparison results. So with this information, I will definitely be using Hero Potions to war and collect Ore to Upgrade Hero Equipment. For Hero levels, I will just focus on my New Champion by using the Free Books of Heroes each month. Do you think this will be a more efficient method?

  • @aaliyan22

    @aaliyan22

    4 ай бұрын

    Would be interesting to see. Throughout my COC journey, I was told you must upgrade heroes but now they don't provide much value for a lot of investment.

  • @GorgeGorge-vd4qx

    @GorgeGorge-vd4qx

    4 ай бұрын

    i think we should stay on the old way👍

  • @NewsLearnAnyTime

    @NewsLearnAnyTime

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@aaliyan22😂forgot I Piece

  • @mikecoxlong9533

    @mikecoxlong9533

    4 ай бұрын

    I POSTED A VIDEO OF A BUG IN COC

  • @aaku2684

    @aaku2684

    4 ай бұрын

    imo you should rush till you get atleast one hero to the 8d upgrade level (king or queen level 80, or RC level 30, or warden level 60) that way you get the max output from book of heroes each month. also i think hero upgrades have less priority than before but are still important to upgrade because how long are you going to wait on the heroes? you arent going to keep using hero pots all the time are you? you have to upgrade them at SOME point of time.

  • @tanishq6112
    @tanishq61124 ай бұрын

    I feel like upgrading heroes should not require a builder and they should still be available for wars while upgrading because they are "Heroes".

  • @royaldragon8035

    @royaldragon8035

    4 ай бұрын

    And I feel like getting a max Th16 but we can't have everything in life

  • @chadbrinson

    @chadbrinson

    4 ай бұрын

    Agree. They kill so much time. Even if they had their own builder like the laboratory.

  • @itzkienlabadao4237

    @itzkienlabadao4237

    4 ай бұрын

    I were a strong advocate for heroes upgrade before update but had to change my mind after th16, the ores are just important. I predict that next QOL update they will allow heroes to be used while under upgrade but with x2 slower recovery. Heck, even if they made it x4 slower I will still be happy as long as heroes are usable.

  • @bunto7552

    @bunto7552

    4 ай бұрын

    im only upgrading mines with books now, i save every gem i can and i buy books from the shop, but im not so sure that i should instead use gems on book of buildings, my heroes are 75-78-55-25

  • @sib1212

    @sib1212

    4 ай бұрын

    No, upgrading herous using builder is good & not available for war make war challenging for both team, otherwise coc is boring 😂😂😂

  • @yms6892
    @yms68923 ай бұрын

    Letting the heroes be used during upgrades would make this game 100 times better.

  • @andymcclurg9916

    @andymcclurg9916

    3 ай бұрын

    Holy cow, I never thought about that but you're so right

  • @wet0wl

    @wet0wl

    2 ай бұрын

    Fr. Always thought it was a little dumb cause it just makes you not want to upgrade your heroes. I’d easily take paying for troops back in exchange for having heroes on upgrade.

  • @kingwriter0

    @kingwriter0

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes am so weak because my heroes always upgrades😢

  • @mrk.8448

    @mrk.8448

    2 ай бұрын

    The only reason i don’t play this game often is because my heroes are busy upgrading and when theyre done upgrading i don’t play again cuz whats the game without heroes

  • @yms6892

    @yms6892

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mrk.8448 I would quit the game but the fact that I need all those ores to max my equipment keeps me playing

  • @BryanPlaysAlot
    @BryanPlaysAlot4 ай бұрын

    at this point they just NEED to make heroes still avaliable while upgrading, its just makes the game better, and not lock it behind potions either, just make heroes always usable even while upgrading. not getting to use heroes is bad for the game.

  • @mehdihani2932

    @mehdihani2932

    4 ай бұрын

    maybe make them available but with half power , like when you upgrade barracks the time to train troops get a longer

  • @UGNaim

    @UGNaim

    4 ай бұрын

    If they do this coc will become p2w to f2p and supercell don't want that.

  • @latoiban9284

    @latoiban9284

    4 ай бұрын

    I mean, they will not do that. All you have to do is playing another attack tragegy without heroes, like sneaky goblin.

  • @theamazingspooderman2697

    @theamazingspooderman2697

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@UGNaim it's not p2w...

  • @theamazingspooderman2697

    @theamazingspooderman2697

    4 ай бұрын

    locked behind season pass? when? people just making up things now?

  • @chasedillon4302
    @chasedillon43024 ай бұрын

    I think the fix is to allow you to use your heroes for clan wars and clan war leagues. Your buildings that are upgrading still defend so let me use my heroes during attacks. Then it feels way better to upgrade them knowing you won’t miss out using them in wars.

  • @kahramandonmez7052

    @kahramandonmez7052

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah i agree and also clan wars are a way to earn ores so not having heroes leaves us with only star bonus ores which is not good enough to upgrade equipment.

  • @avinash2_

    @avinash2_

    4 ай бұрын

    Well said

  • @sne2587

    @sne2587

    4 ай бұрын

    i disagree because the reason why heroes r feel special is because they really hard to upgrade. If its become easy to get, it will be less special

  • @matthewdossantosserra2882

    @matthewdossantosserra2882

    4 ай бұрын

    W comment

  • @Ash-zt6tk

    @Ash-zt6tk

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@sne2587 bro what are you talking? I mean just like the defense, you can still use them in the war, plus there's no reason why we even need to wait for them to lvl up when they aren't even a tower but a human

  • @Unidentified_buyer
    @Unidentified_buyer4 ай бұрын

    I think they should give ores and other necessary stuff in raid medal exchanges

  • @Myder_Dragon

    @Myder_Dragon

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes this. Raid medals are basically 15 wall rings and reinforce my clan hall with super archer

  • @ricardomilos1784

    @ricardomilos1784

    4 ай бұрын

    and its once per week to get it. Supercell is annoying af with that shit honestly

  • @Myder_Dragon

    @Myder_Dragon

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ricardomilos1784 fr why do they limit it? Walls already suck upgrading just let me spend all my medals on rings

  • @sanjeevrajkumar657

    @sanjeevrajkumar657

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah bro my archer queen level is 65 but it's says my queen ability is 11 but it should be 13 now I'm gonna delete it​@@ricardomilos1784

  • @sickomode6440

    @sickomode6440

    4 ай бұрын

    Please

  • @dracomp418
    @dracomp4184 ай бұрын

    Honestly if Supercell looks into doing something about this scenario, I guess it’s better to be safe than sorry to continue upgrading heroes

  • @xm214-aminigun9

    @xm214-aminigun9

    4 ай бұрын

    EXACTLY, was thinking to tell my friends the exact same thing. Even if hero upgrades are droppwd completely which is highly unlikely, almost impossible to happen, they would still reward you with something for all the leveling up you've done.

  • @Lucy_595

    @Lucy_595

    4 ай бұрын

    I'd say that means we should ignore hero upgrades even more now and abuse the infinite hero potions to get as many ores as possible from wars. Once hero potion/raid shop is nerfed, that's when we start upgrading heroes.

  • @rajahassan1236

    @rajahassan1236

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Lucy_595how are hero potions infinite ? Please explain

  • @NoChill_Edits

    @NoChill_Edits

    4 ай бұрын

    U can always get them..they are always free..and in events...was is that hard for u to understand​@@rajahassan1236

  • @blkjohnnybravo3506

    @blkjohnnybravo3506

    4 ай бұрын

    How they should do heroes is how yugioh duel links does its characters. Incorporate a reward system for leveling up heroes so instead of every 5 lvls u get a u strengthen ur ability instead u would gain ores or equips that can only be gotten thru lvling heroes. This way it keeps the hero grind a priority while incentivizing and rewarding how much u grind.

  • @koolgamers6763
    @koolgamers67634 ай бұрын

    I love the equipment itself. The new currencies and building was unnecessary. Just make the hero equipment selectable on each podium and automatically they scale the same way by level that the old abilities did.

  • @lifewithmace2338

    @lifewithmace2338

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly but they wanna make extra buck

  • @Chaos-Is-A-Ladder

    @Chaos-Is-A-Ladder

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes but the have to monetize it 🤷

  • @lifewithmace2338

    @lifewithmace2338

    4 ай бұрын

    not everything has to be monetized in game, Free 2 play will leave the game cuz of those things@@Chaos-Is-A-Ladder

  • @joebro7280

    @joebro7280

    4 ай бұрын

    If you guys are active daily you shouldn’t have any problems getting the ore necessary to upgrade your equipment. I haven’t spent a dime on buying ores and have been able to upgrade the gauntlet and eternal tome to level 17 each since the update and cookie event were released by completing the star bonus and participating in wars. This game has always been a grind so I don’t understand why so many of you have a problem. Like I said in the beginning if you guys can complete your star bonus everyday, 2 attacks minimum, you will have the ore necessary to upgrade your equipment. It’s that fucking easy.

  • @gicrueldad9520

    @gicrueldad9520

    4 ай бұрын

    The Currency and how you obtain it is fine, the problem is that upgrading Heroes are still unavailable for War and some Clans are REALLY serious about having them all available to participate otherwise you're out, and ignoring these you are still in a disadvantage from not having them. So, the only proper solution is to just make them available for Wars and Leagues only just like upgrading Defenses does (which was updated since upgrading Defenses did stay down for Wars in the past).

  • @kotz9997
    @kotz99974 ай бұрын

    Hero levels are needed to defend. SC needs to lower the gem cost for books of heros as well as the hammer as they are no longer tied to abilities and the gains are minimal.

  • @Myder_Dragon

    @Myder_Dragon

    4 ай бұрын

    or just reduce the number of levels the hero has and make them mater more

  • @krnguy

    @krnguy

    4 ай бұрын

    Which is still not the priority if at all.

  • @yusufe8652

    @yusufe8652

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Myder_Dragontrue we cant be runnin around w level 100 heros at one point

  • @samcarson5936

    @samcarson5936

    4 ай бұрын

    I did think that, would love to see a lvl 20-30 barb king with equipment vs a lvl 75+ barb king on defense

  • @martinflo

    @martinflo

    3 ай бұрын

    I’ve always thought they would end at lv100, and from there introduce other stuff to them

  • @Truth_Observer
    @Truth_Observer4 ай бұрын

    After new update we're upgrading Equipments and Heroes differently. So I think they need to reduce time and resources to upgrade heroes in large scale ..maybe reduce to 50%

  • @JazzReaper

    @JazzReaper

    4 ай бұрын

    Or like a hero lab, so it doesn't use a builder

  • @BeeForBreakfast

    @BeeForBreakfast

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JazzReaperthen it would be like upgrading one hero at a time which isn’t good

  • @JazzReaper

    @JazzReaper

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BeeForBreakfast nothing was ever said about only having one slot

  • @Truth_Observer

    @Truth_Observer

    4 ай бұрын

    Or maybe they allow us to use Heroes using hero potion even if it's on upgrading

  • @BeeForBreakfast

    @BeeForBreakfast

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JazzReaper no lab currently has more than one slot as of now so…

  • @ernestregia
    @ernestregia4 ай бұрын

    I guess they should significantly decrease the time of upgrading heroes to like 3-4 days on max level. The costs should be the same since loot can be farmed indefinitely.

  • @abhinav2769

    @abhinav2769

    Ай бұрын

    Nah cost should be decreased by atleast 30%

  • @emerex6014
    @emerex60142 ай бұрын

    Upgrading heroes should be instant

  • @hoeton3

    @hoeton3

    27 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @OmkarRaut-nx5dt

    @OmkarRaut-nx5dt

    15 күн бұрын

    Yes 😢

  • @VAT-qp5pk
    @VAT-qp5pk4 ай бұрын

    Honestly in my opinion,not having me hero's max before I upgrade my town hall makes me look poor (idky)

  • @lukebeir4567

    @lukebeir4567

    4 ай бұрын

    yeah same thing, and the walls as well...just for esthetic

  • @RegularMan45

    @RegularMan45

    4 ай бұрын

    same

  • @greg9069

    @greg9069

    3 ай бұрын

    @@lukebeir4567fr, I downloaded the game again since 2014 just for the aesthetic of the village, and found how much easier the game is now.

  • @StopGame2013

    @StopGame2013

    3 ай бұрын

    Same and after upgrading them all you feel happy and proud just for 1 week, cuz next week you gonna get new town hall and “ah sh*t.. here we go again”

  • @NotR8ed

    @NotR8ed

    3 ай бұрын

    I feel you

  • @s.......
    @s.......4 ай бұрын

    They need to reduce the hero upgrade time to Max 4 days at the highest level

  • @silverwatchdog
    @silverwatchdog4 ай бұрын

    At this point the only real fix is to allow us to use them during upgrades like the rest of the army. The tactical decision reason is absolutely no longer valid because now you actually need to do clan wars to upgrade heroes but without them it is really hard to win wars. So you either neglect their stats or the ability but either option is not really viable. They should work how pets work and the blacksmith building can take over anything related to heroes. Heck the upgrades can even use builders.

  • @laurencebarnes5361

    @laurencebarnes5361

    Ай бұрын

    well, hero books are a major part of their revenue. They cannot give up on that so easily, but I am sure that they will figure out a way to lessen frustration about it.

  • @venkatsaipadishala1916
    @venkatsaipadishala19164 ай бұрын

    I was expecting a video on this topic, thanks bro

  • @I-am-ur
    @I-am-ur4 ай бұрын

    It would have been great if they combined 5 level in to one with more cost and time. With each level unlock they could update skill with dark elixir for 5 times while still being able to use heros more often like armys. Used ores for fifth updates or buying new equipment.

  • @kenkr9449

    @kenkr9449

    4 ай бұрын

    I was exactly thinking the same. Reduce the lvl and give morr stats per lvl

  • @Random76544

    @Random76544

    4 ай бұрын

    It is bad actually because book of heroes would increase 5 lv or they need to remove it

  • @xm214-aminigun9

    @xm214-aminigun9

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Random76544 a sacrifice im willing to accept.

  • @Random76544

    @Random76544

    4 ай бұрын

    @@xm214-aminigun9 what i meant was, it would be too easy to upgrade heroes then, even worthless if book just upgrade 5 levels instead of 1

  • @xm214-aminigun9

    @xm214-aminigun9

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Random76544 if for example 5 levels in total takes 150000 dark elixir and 6 days to complete, just make the upgrade take the 6 days and 150000 and give me the whole five levels at once. Increase the upgrade times to make up for the fact that we're doing it all at once. Nah i don't think it's a downside really.

  • @rruhland
    @rruhland4 ай бұрын

    I’ll be upgrading them because they do help on defense, especially the warden. My clan doesn’t require heroes to be up for regular wars, just CWL, so I’ll work on upgrading them 3 weeks out of the month.

  • @sauhardpandit4081
    @sauhardpandit40814 ай бұрын

    I think they should give more ores when upgrading them and it will ramp up depending on what level they are. Ores can't really be gained casually, you have to participate in war to get it efficiently, so I think upgrading heroes should give more ores so that we can upgrade their equipment faster.

  • @chefman5167
    @chefman51674 ай бұрын

    My general advice would be to still keep your heroes down as much as possible, but instead don’t worry about maxing them out. What ever you don’t finish can be finished the next town hall level. It doesn’t really matter since over your later town hall levels that take longer, the time will catch up and your heroes will eventually max out before you even know it, and maxed heroes are still powerful with their stats since it’s a big driving force of attacks.

  • @laurencebarnes5361

    @laurencebarnes5361

    Ай бұрын

    and then you gotta max the pets, adding even more upgrades... it really makes sense to max them, as long as it doesn't hold you back too badly.

  • @arthurperalta104
    @arthurperalta1044 ай бұрын

    Something I don’t see anybody mentioning is that certain pieces of equipment scale with percentage, such as the kings, rage vile, and the wardens rage gym they give a percentage based increased so the higher level your heroes are the bigger the increase

  • @tbrx296

    @tbrx296

    4 ай бұрын

    True

  • @MrXyrus
    @MrXyrus4 ай бұрын

    For me, I think hero level still plays a role in defending like a high lvl hero can ruin some attack if not manage carefully.

  • @Runaasu

    @Runaasu

    4 ай бұрын

    they’re weaker now

  • @denjerdaii420

    @denjerdaii420

    4 ай бұрын

    good point

  • @amazatoad6988

    @amazatoad6988

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Runaasu That argument is so invalid. A max king is still tanky asf, a max queen, grand warden and royal champion still hits like a truck till now on defense.

  • @MrXyrus

    @MrXyrus

    4 ай бұрын

    @@amazatoad6988 I agree cause a high lvl defending king can still 1v1 most heroes if no headhunter or spells use against it.

  • @MrXyrus

    @MrXyrus

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Runaasu Being able to use heroes in wars is definitely a good way to play clash, but imagine this, your at war you 3 starred your opponent with max hero on your th lvl but at the same time because you didn't lvl your hero resulting a low lvl hero on def, it makes your base a bit easy for most atk strat which also resulting a 3s, where a max hero on def can definitely make your opponent base read(unless your got outTH).

  • @vireshjain4618
    @vireshjain46184 ай бұрын

    For Warmongers, maintaining potions and upgrading equipment takes priority and now ur builders are free to upgrade ur defenses. For Farmers that also dont war, nothing has changed. For rushed players, their defensive part gets a boost bcoz now u can put all builders into defenses. You will be upgrading ur defense faster than ur offense.

  • @darkie69
    @darkie694 ай бұрын

    So true man first thought that came to mind after update was then what is the point of upgrading heros there won't be much will be getting after 5 level.

  • @Wichan137
    @Wichan1374 ай бұрын

    seriously it’s so dumb that some of us grinded for months if not years to upgrade heroes and now they added this equipment that not only doesn’t upgrade the ability anymore, but it’s another damn separate upgrade! and the fact that heroes can’t be used to attack in wars/multiplayer while upgrading and you get those ores by _once_ a day bonuses and wars when you can’t even use them is just ridiculous edit: for those who’ll say: that’s what the book of heroes are for- the rest of the troops can be used while they upgrade and has book of fighting so there’s no excuse to not be able to use heroes while they’re upgrading

  • @moonknight3594

    @moonknight3594

    Күн бұрын

    We should have heroes at least for wars ! 😢

  • @easyMatthew
    @easyMatthew4 ай бұрын

    The main and big problem with heroes is the upgrades. During every single upgrade the heroes are down and cannot be used neither in offence nor defence, thus, making your army incredibly weaker. Becuase of this some players, me included, have resorted in the past years to use heroes only once a month during cwl and keep them upgrading during the rest of the month, but, with the last th16 update in which the heroes' abilities were detached from the heroes' levels, it started to feel as though these upgrades lost the little value they provided. The simple solution that has been sitting under supercell's nose for all these years is to simply let heroes stay up during upgrades at least for wars and friendly challenges, in offence in the same way they, alongside buildings you are upgrading aren't down when getting attacked in wars and friendly challenges, maybe adding in a longer resting time when they get knocked down similarly to how the barracks, spell factories and the workshop double the training time when they are upgrading.

  • @vanessaxoax7646

    @vanessaxoax7646

    4 ай бұрын

    Past years? Ive been playing for 15 months and my heroes are maxed th14.

  • @Yhevy

    @Yhevy

    4 ай бұрын

    I used them in defense when upgrading, it only works in LL

  • @Yhevy

    @Yhevy

    4 ай бұрын

    Your heroes work on defense when you upgrade them in LL and any other defense that is upgrading,your explanation is a little also not reasonable to us up here (LL) but reasonable

  • @moonknight3594

    @moonknight3594

    Күн бұрын

    ​@@vanessaxoax7646wtf I started playing it since 2014 Still not have max heroes ! BTW I did not played game for last few years recently come back but still I played nonstop from 2014-19 and then stopped playing and again started playing for 6-7 months in 22 ! And now from last few weeks

  • @darkaces19
    @darkaces194 ай бұрын

    I think upgrading hero’s is not an attack thing now as much as a defense thing now. Since hero equipment is used for attacking only having higher level hero helps more in a defensive situation as a lower level hero is dispatched way quicker than a higher level hero. Therefore it does not stall the attack like a higher level hero can. Just my thoughts on it. Thanks for the video Joe !

  • @stylystycs
    @stylystycs4 ай бұрын

    Love the topics on your videos. Always a fan and uses your creator code to support.

  • @Marco-fs9bs
    @Marco-fs9bs4 ай бұрын

    2 things you have missed 1) every 5 levels the hero get's a boost on how much health it can recover when activating the ability, so even the grand warden for example get's some healing when activating the ability(even if it has the 2 passive abilities combined) 2)if you have a lot of D.E and you're th14 or above, just upgrade pets like the unicorn, frosty, diggy, etc and then the heroes

  • @zakapholiac9377

    @zakapholiac9377

    4 ай бұрын

    But upgrading pets means you can’t use them. You might as well upgrade the hero the pet is assigned to so you reduce overall dead time. TH15 and above you can switch pets admittedly so maybe TH14 is worth skipping over as a result

  • @yunglorn

    @yunglorn

    4 ай бұрын

    Ahh yess, the +9 health recovery for warden at lvl 55 is definitely worth it. Only for over 10mln elixir. That's definitely worth it

  • @alexisrx721

    @alexisrx721

    26 күн бұрын

    Skills are upgrading seperatly from hero, also with boost you can have max hero level for you th it's not +5 lvl anymore. If you have gems/raid medals your hero level doesn't mean anything. Rushed th's are now efficient

  • @DGP873
    @DGP8733 ай бұрын

    Just make then upgradable via the lab. You can still use it during the upgrade

  • @factopia77
    @factopia774 ай бұрын

    I have been waiting for this detail explaination since your short came out on not to upgrade the hero's By the good work pal❤❤

  • @okie-5518
    @okie-55184 ай бұрын

    Thank you Jo I will focus more on my base than hero’s I haven’t enjoyed the game since I got it endless heroes upgrade

  • @kartikcaim751
    @kartikcaim7514 ай бұрын

    Right now the meta in clash is to rush base and heroes levels are pointless but they can easily fix the hero level thing just by giving players some ores by upgrading hero levels this can give a motive to upgrade heroes and make it easy to upgrade their abilities also

  • @vanessaxoax7646

    @vanessaxoax7646

    4 ай бұрын

    I dont need a motive to make my heroes stronger.

  • @vaunvaundra
    @vaunvaundra4 ай бұрын

    Well, those equipment are new mechanic on CoC. And also, new epic equipment : gauntlet for BK. I think, upping the heroes will still affect as we will never know when those equipment, especially the epic one will balanced. I don't know. Maybe Supercell will decided to buff the level of hero itself So, yeah. Upping the heroes still worthed as those equipment is new mechanic to the game.

  • @bibosteinmuller3431
    @bibosteinmuller34314 ай бұрын

    Great video! Very interesting 🔥👍🏻

  • @danmarino2397
    @danmarino23973 ай бұрын

    i completely agree tbh stats feel too small in the long run. but you gotta remember upgrading heroes helps a lot on defense too quen and royal champion, and warden can rlly shred ur opponents troops.

  • @jangotrooper3382
    @jangotrooper33824 ай бұрын

    I will still upgrade them regardless but waiting for them while upgrading is annoying. Maybe they should add for the hero potion for them to be used if they are being upgraded. It makes sense to put it in that potion

  • @whyme3968
    @whyme39684 ай бұрын

    Honestly you should be able to upgrade heroes and use them at the same time. But them getting back up or getting the heart should take longer.

  • @AdityaKumar-pg6dp
    @AdityaKumar-pg6dp4 ай бұрын

    I am a new th15 player with max th13 stats. I upgraded my barbarian to 71, queen to 80, warden to 60 and rc to 15 before the th16 upgrade. After the update, I find it more useful to use the dark elixer to keep the pets upgrading continuously and use the book of heroes from the pass or clan games to upgrade the heroes from time to time. The hero levels don't affect much now as I generally use the hero potion for clan wars or the CWL.

  • @mr.dependable4885
    @mr.dependable48854 ай бұрын

    Ngl i literally forgot this and i instantly upgraded my rc and warden to max as soon as TH16 dropped, but then after seeing the abilities seprate i was soo frustrated

  • @dr.swapnilbhoyar2206
    @dr.swapnilbhoyar22064 ай бұрын

    As a veteran I still prefer upgrading heroes rather than using those potions every now and then instead of wasting your raid medals on them you can always purchase research potions or pet potions to speed up the process it might not go well with others though.

  • @lukaspersson4051

    @lukaspersson4051

    4 ай бұрын

    But if you’re in a good clan you can get all 3, I get 1.55k raid medals so it’s enough for 3 hero potions, 3 research potions and 2 pet potions

  • @sarimveesar4350

    @sarimveesar4350

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly I always get the builder resources then just buy the research potions literally no point in wasting all that as her potions are given in litms

  • @lukaspersson4051

    @lukaspersson4051

    4 ай бұрын

    @@sarimveesar4350 the potions you get without buying with raid medals aren’t enough to do war every 2 days and cwl

  • @sarimveesar4350

    @sarimveesar4350

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lukaspersson4051 I know bro I don't but hero potions at all

  • @sarimveesar4350

    @sarimveesar4350

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lukaspersson4051 I get approx above 1.4k raid medals so I buy research and builder resources

  • @someonesomewhere7587
    @someonesomewhere758710 күн бұрын

    Supercell is becoming as incompetent and cash grabby as Blizzard these days

  • @moonknight3594

    @moonknight3594

    Күн бұрын

    Supercell bought by Chinese company Tencent ! That's why

  • @safiristhenewworld5774
    @safiristhenewworld57744 ай бұрын

    Hi joe Always love a new vid from you

  • @ryangisabum5576
    @ryangisabum55764 ай бұрын

    A cool way to upgrade your hero’s would be to use them in more attacks and keep them alive or something to gain like “ experience “ and get stronger

  • @AbidHussain-rt1jw
    @AbidHussain-rt1jw4 ай бұрын

    They should let you choose any two abilities to upgrade at 5th lvl like before or atleast make the default abilities upgradable with hero lvl. Spending 180k dark elixir to get +10dps and hp is absurd. On top of all that, the upgrade times.... 🙂

  • @jeff34566

    @jeff34566

    4 ай бұрын

    More like 280,000 at th16

  • @BryanPlaysAlot
    @BryanPlaysAlot4 ай бұрын

    what do you mean upgrading heroes "can" feel endless, it literally IS endless for me, i upgraded all my heroes to max on TH11, moved to TH12, now i am upgrading them and i am almost done, when the heroes are done so are most of my buildings and i go to TH13, which means i still never get to use them since they are again all upgrading, and once they are done upgrading AGAIN its time for TH14 and repeat.

  • @khrielehupienyu7624

    @khrielehupienyu7624

    3 ай бұрын

    Well yes 1 hero should be always in upgrade mode to keep up .. That's why alot of players struggle in cwl especially annoying when my archer queen is in upgrade

  • @EmiWi

    @EmiWi

    2 ай бұрын

    honestly i feel like this ONE aspect is intentional to slow game progression if you want to use heroes

  • @teferiuwuraveler1407
    @teferiuwuraveler14074 ай бұрын

    I expect them to fix this soon with a logrithmic increase from the equipment rather than a static one to further incentivise the player for increasing the level by allowing the level to actually matter relative to the equipment.

  • @Brosky305
    @Brosky3054 ай бұрын

    Thanks genius I figured out that part before the update dropped.

  • @IshCaracal
    @IshCaracal4 ай бұрын

    My opinion is that heroes should be upgradable in the blacksmith itself, and you should be able to upgrade one at a time, without a builder. This will allow heroes to be upgraded exactly like troops in the laboratory, and that will at least let us have heroes available throughout, and we can go to war regular then!

  • @DinoDavid87
    @DinoDavid874 ай бұрын

    I feel like they are still worth upgrading I definitely notice differences between a level 30 queen and a level 50 one, and it’s not like it’s really a choice between equipment and hero levels, as they can be upgraded simultaneously due to using different resources, I get the frustration with needing to upgrade them and needing ores from war to get the equipment upgraded though.

  • @tej5626

    @tej5626

    4 ай бұрын

    They really need to just allow u to use heroes during war, how u gonna make 2 ways of getting equipment ore, with one being war, being a thing that crucially requires heroes 🤣

  • @scorp5469
    @scorp54693 ай бұрын

    I also find that I am always waiting on and farming Dark elixir whenever I am about to upgrade my town hall because maxing out the Heroes and the Dark Lab Troops takes so damn long compared to other upgrades

  • @Josh-ut4wv
    @Josh-ut4wv4 ай бұрын

    Now it is worth mentioning that every 5 levels you do get more regeneration for the king, Queen, etc i think it is like just do one at a time and it will work itself out

  • @buhja543
    @buhja5434 ай бұрын

    You can only make a real comparison by having the lvl 20 heroes attack the maxed heroes base. Heroes are important for defence. On top of that it will mean you have the raid medals free for other stuff

  • @mynameiscal3478
    @mynameiscal34784 ай бұрын

    Upgrade your heroes. Maybe not all at once so you can do war, but they still provide offensive and defensive value. Yeah they get less thats, but they still gain stats. You wont have enough pots for every war anyway. Yeah they cant be used in war, so what? Theres plenty of ways to speed up time, and after th13, hero levels arent nearly as much of a grind. Edit: they still get a buff every 5 levels in the "health recovered" stat, its how much a hero heals when using an ability, no matter the ability.

  • @zeroth86
    @zeroth863 ай бұрын

    Thnx this is what I needed

  • @roelieyoutube8082
    @roelieyoutube80824 ай бұрын

    Great video jo thanks 👍

  • @bdlegendcoc
    @bdlegendcoc4 ай бұрын

    That thumbnail is fire Kenny I can't lie. Congrats on 700k!

  • @SilverTwinkle
    @SilverTwinkle4 ай бұрын

    A solution could be that they can always be used when upgrading and instead put a timer on the equipment that becomes unusable for the time it upgrades instead, still allowing you to use other equipment for the time beeing.

  • @ALEXZANDER_YT
    @ALEXZANDER_YT4 ай бұрын

    I could recomend to add option to level heroes on +5 levels per upgrade cycle with the price increased of course this will allow to decrease time they require on upgrades

  • @tob6422
    @tob64224 ай бұрын

    Probably the best way to upgrade heroes currently at th13, would be to have 2/4 being upgraded. Attacks dont suffer too much, while still allowing meaningful progress

  • @Goruden_4407
    @Goruden_44074 ай бұрын

    Supercell needs to make heroes available while they're upgrading. Like come on, no archer queen for 4-8 days PER LEVEL? HOW THE HELL CAN WE TROPHY PUSH?!

  • @handsomeelfo8254
    @handsomeelfo82544 ай бұрын

    ive never been disturbed about this, but rather actually excited when upgrading heroes idk why... u know unlocking new stuff and all

  • @palaho
    @palaho4 ай бұрын

    Best clash of clans youtuber that actually helps the community ❤

  • @hiddenlights2809
    @hiddenlights28093 ай бұрын

    They should be same price but instant, there is now a time lock with ore, and they should be expensive because there is a difference and they have a much more noticeable difference on defense aswell.

  • @ethanwelte6402
    @ethanwelte64024 ай бұрын

    They need to rework hero upgrades at this point, drastically reduce the times, give us a hero potion (let’s us use heroes while upgrading), or straight up let us use heroes while they are upgrading

  • @aadhikeshavanaadhikeshavan2273
    @aadhikeshavanaadhikeshavan22734 ай бұрын

    ❤thkns needed this video what if they nerf the equipment in upcomg update😅

  • @AgentBellyache
    @AgentBellyache3 ай бұрын

    4:16 "The King didn't get to show off because he got roasted." Lmao

  • @DyrianLightbringer
    @DyrianLightbringer4 ай бұрын

    Considering that leveling heroes and leveling their equipment use different resources, you can't really "focus on equipment," you can only level equipment as those resources are available to you. Also, since the king and queen cost dark elixir to upgrade, and aside from the dark troops, that's about all you can spend your dark elixir on, there's no reason not to upgrade them, unless you're at war. As a (mostly) FtP player, in a clan that wars constantly, I only upgrade my heroes when my dark elixir storage is nearly full, and I don't have my drills maxed. Despite this, I'm still upgrading them a lot, and my dark storage is almost always full. I activate super dragon and super wizard every three days to use in war defense, and also because I have dark elixir to spare! It's crazy how a resource that was highly sought after, hard to get, and protected more securely than TH when I started playing, is now so meaningless that I'm just throwing it away every three days to make super troops that I don't even use, and I struggle to spend it all.

  • @theamazingspooderman2697

    @theamazingspooderman2697

    4 ай бұрын

    u don't have drills maxed? and u are at minimum th12? max them out right now

  • @DyrianLightbringer

    @DyrianLightbringer

    4 ай бұрын

    @@theamazingspooderman2697 Why? I always have more dark elixir than I can spend. There's no reason to max the drills.

  • @Indickya
    @Indickya3 ай бұрын

    One thing I noticed that just doesn’t make sense is when there is a builder gem boost event it doesn’t boost the hero upgrade time and that makes 0 sense when their upgrade requires a builder.

  • @ash-2650
    @ash-26504 ай бұрын

    Another thing is now u get the ores only from star bonous nd war so now missing out a war has actually more downside. We really need some changes for heros now. I really think supercell should significantly lessen the hero upgrading time which should be below 2 days or if they entirely take out the upgrade timing it is even better.

  • @mikeconnor2916
    @mikeconnor29164 ай бұрын

    I'd be interested to know, does the war defense take into account what equipment is applied and does it only matter when the war day starts? ie, but max dps on as war starts - then switch to preferred options for the actual war.

  • @jmanlinc
    @jmanlinc4 ай бұрын

    I generally use hammers for the warden upgrades and 2 or 3 books a month on the others. Rarely ever have heros down, and generally have them maxed long b4 my defense and troops r maxed.

  • @denisehouck5766
    @denisehouck57663 ай бұрын

    my take on it is that when they released the new selectable abilities based on what level your hero’s we’re should have been the level they start at when you also unlock them too. i don’t understand why the original abilities were gave levels to start at but the new ones aren’t.. also like many have said just make the hero’s playable while upgrading. simple fix i hop the devs listen to us and get this fixed soon

  • @ailirey
    @ailirey4 ай бұрын

    I like if supercell reduce hero cost upgrade and time upgrade, book of hero, and hammer of hero, because now their abilities are separate

  • @Afghan1GUCCI
    @Afghan1GUCCI3 ай бұрын

    I missed the gauntlet purchase while the cookies event was active💀 I thought it was a cosmetic skin

  • @hanalister8
    @hanalister84 ай бұрын

    They could add a separated interface in the lab for the heroes that have their own constructor or something like that

  • @Bow_down_jorel
    @Bow_down_jorel4 ай бұрын

    You know if king is under eternal tome early with warden later he has it with his ability. Might be a bug but dramatically changes everything if you don’t use it.

  • @PapaChewieSurfs
    @PapaChewieSurfs4 ай бұрын

    Have been debating whether i should first finish all Hero upgrades (K & RC still have 5 lvls) before going to th14. To max or not to Max? Totally agree though. It no longer makes sense to wait.

  • @haidarelhussien3568
    @haidarelhussien35684 ай бұрын

    I wish supercell make the heros available while upgrading at least just in the war

  • @azrael_morningstar
    @azrael_morningstar11 күн бұрын

    I just came back to coc so i have no idea what these hero equipment stuff are, guess i need to do some research

  • @Anonymous_019
    @Anonymous_0194 ай бұрын

    4:45 Sums up the video (although " still ” very imp but isn’t the priority) That is pretty much it imo. Hero upgrades will always be important irrespective of the introduction of th16 or th20 (in future). Supercell will ensure it’ll be like that hence the huge amount of resources and time required for each hero lvl. If you r a rushed player and like to play the game that way, it’s upto you and you def can do that now as hero pots are buffed and it gives you the hero lvls of the respective th (earlier it used to +5 lvls only) and hence you can use the pots during cwl to get the triple even if you r a rushed th16 (:

  • @Koubles
    @Koubles2 ай бұрын

    I think they should condense the hero levels down and increase the cost and upgrade time per level on the heroes. So for instance going from a level 1 hero to a level 2 hero would be the same as going from level 1 to level 5 now in terms of the hp and dps improvements. However, bump up the upgrade timers a decent chunk (maybe +30-50% on the timers) and increase the cost a little bit to incentivize BoH and Runes for upgrades. Needing to keep builders busy for 40+ hero levels per TH really drags the game down and hurts player retention for those players who want to max out, but the economy also needs to be rebalanced to better integrate the fact that hero levels are the absolute worst value for time proposition currently in the game. Hero equipment and the rewards system surrounding it was a fantastic idea for breathing life into clan wars and keeping player retention on the game, but if the hero levels themselves aren't addressed then you're still going to have large numbers of players sitting around doing nothing for months on end trying to max out their heroes and not participating in playing the game.

  • @batangpindotgaming1263
    @batangpindotgaming12634 ай бұрын

    COC in the Philippines was always lost connection

  • @bavel123451
    @bavel1234514 ай бұрын

    Can you please make an equipment priority list so that we can focus on better equipment’s

  • @Sei003
    @Sei0034 ай бұрын

    At this point, just make a Hero Altar or something where you could upgrade heroes much like in the Lab. The only downside would probably be that they take twice as long to recover but are otherwise usable even if they're being upgraded. Using up a builder just prolong the upgrade of Town Halls sometimes and it doesn't feel worth it to upgrade them when you can't use them much for the majority of the time.

  • @joebro7280

    @joebro7280

    4 ай бұрын

    I like that idea. It makes no sense to use a builder to upgrade a hero?? like wtf does a builder have to do with upgrading a hero he should only do construction upgrades unless the heroes are giant robots? There should be a member of the village that specializes on upgrading heroes or, like you suggested, something like a lab.

  • @syedsameer2542
    @syedsameer25424 ай бұрын

    IMO heroes should have couple of abilities fixed when we upgrade like we had before update. So that players can feel happy when they upgrade their heroes. Later they can use ores to upgrade remaining abilities if they wish

  • @hellsgames5322
    @hellsgames5322Ай бұрын

    Typically I will upgrade heros from the start of a townhall, at th13 it takes a long time to upgrade everything else so being a couple builders down still gives me 4 to work with on buildings. However I can still progress my heros at a steady pace, while annoying for normal attacks

  • @sean-keykong5090
    @sean-keykong50904 ай бұрын

    I’m at town hall 15 using the same army as a town hall 16 without the new pet that army I have been using is very strong and the KZreadr is code Moose. My heroes are almost maxed and my builders are working hard, legends league is cool and a good way to farm resources. It is long farming resources placing upgrades and wall upgrades. I say upgrade walls with rings and the resource you don’t need at the moment and grind them as soon as you see a hammer jam start. Set your goal! And good luck out there.

  • @miguelrivera2405
    @miguelrivera24054 ай бұрын

    Iv literally been pushing my king and queen for months now because when i stopped playing the were lvl 35 they are now lvl being upgrade to lvl 57 and im at th13. I still keep my warden and royal champion up and I was still able to get three stars during wars. And my warden and champion are at lvl 18 and 9 before this current update.

  • @khanhnguyengia4090
    @khanhnguyengia40904 ай бұрын

    Honestly, those ore are still extremely hard to gain for me as i often drop my rank for loots. Therefore while my heroes are being upgraded for few days, i can use that time to gain abundance of loots at. Like i only need to do roughly 4 to 5 raids to almost max out my storage😅

  • @DankDaniel
    @DankDaniel3 ай бұрын

    Honestly they should just make the blacksmith abilities correlate with your hero levels like every 5 level upgrade on the archer queen e.g. gives +1 level for the giant arrow for example

  • @yaboifuego4994
    @yaboifuego49944 ай бұрын

    I’d say if you wanna upgrade heros you can upgrade your townhall when your hero’s are within 10-15 levels from the max for your TH level maybe even 20 levels less depending on how far you can upgrade them at said townhall

  • @suthtokcraew1227
    @suthtokcraew12274 ай бұрын

    as f2p th13 mostly i uses qc hybrid or s.archer blimp lalo. heroes level is most important for my kind of attacks style. all my heroes are max out except king just lv 72

  • @mugg1841
    @mugg18414 ай бұрын

    What equipment should we be using for each hero? No clue what’s the best option atm. Use queen walk miner attacks.

  • @lcf4359
    @lcf43594 ай бұрын

    I think we should be able to pause hero upgrade to attack then we can resume the upgrade, I can't find any negative effects of this.

  • @WhitetailVigilantes
    @WhitetailVigilantes4 ай бұрын

    I'm still maxing my heroes. Because here's the thing. I'm a th15. A relatively new th15. I've devoted a ton of resources I've saved to maxing my heroes and troops for my war army. My queen is currently lvl 90, king level 83, warden level 57, and champion level 40. Due to the bad matchups in cwl, I was matched up primarily against th16's. And for the most part, I smoked them. So it helps if you're attacking up.

  • @somsekhar1661
    @somsekhar16614 ай бұрын

    I must appreciate your efforts

  • @tonidolic2526
    @tonidolic25264 ай бұрын

    I think that if you upgrade a hero,all hero should equipment get boosted for 1 level,and that ores should be harder to get and instead of upgrading,they should unlock new hero equipment,and they should move some of the passive buffs from equipment back to the heroes.Ether that or reduce the cost and upgrade time of heroes.

  • @user-yf3me8cx9d
    @user-yf3me8cx9d3 ай бұрын

    Hi,I think they should come up with a way for us lower town halls can get and save up the ores for when we aquire the first hero at town hall 7,since us lowers are in clan wars

  • @pugness
    @pugness4 ай бұрын

    I just got to th 13 and my rc is lvl 7 with lvl 9 equipment and I'm so glad she is usable and i don't have to wait months to try her

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