Also known as the " the federation definitely doesn't make warships" class

@baskkev7459

Жыл бұрын

Technically a warship is made for war. This ship was made to fight a very specific enemy. ( i do agree with you)

@juscallmeehx

Жыл бұрын

It's not a warship if you add advance sensors for science stuff. - Starfleet logic.

@vic5015

Жыл бұрын

@@juscallmeehx actually, advanced sensors can easily be used for military purposes. Targeting, for example.

@juscallmeehx

Жыл бұрын

@@vic5015 I know, that's the joke.

@Alexander-wx2ie

Жыл бұрын

PS: "Unless we have to"

honestly I wish this ship got more screentime. I think its such a cool design and a unique take on the usual federation ships

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

"Star Trek: Prometheus"

@FirebirdPrince

Жыл бұрын

Yeah im surprised they didnt capitalize on it more.

@ChadSlampiece

Жыл бұрын

I was never a big fan of four-nacelle ships but I loved the idea of the Prometheus. Would have been cool to see more of it.

@21mushroomcupcakes33

Жыл бұрын

It's a 12-year-old's idea of a cool Starfleet ship.

@dreamingflurry2729

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I'd have loved a show with this (so a ship for tactical assignments and maybe aggressive negotiations!) ship as the place of the action, because that would be quite fun (and probably have less exploratory episodes, many of which weren't that great...hell, I like the Klingon Civil War episodes on TNG, the Dominion War in DS9 the most and episodes that put Voyager in conflicts, too!)...especially after (or during the late) Dominion War, where the Federation isn't a "Peace above all else! Here, take half our space for peace!"-Kind of naive ("Starfleet is not a military organization" - Picard...seriously Captain, sometimes you are quite retarded!) organisation, but a government that is good for its people and will step up to defend them and their principals, with force of arms if need be and even using dishonorable means (Section 31!)

This is the Federations tactical nuke. It was top secret, built in small numbers and designed to terrify. Its not very Federation but it is very human if that makes sense, a bit of the Terran coming out. "We're safe the Federation doesn't make warships... what the hell is that?" as a ship thats just come out of warp 9.9 splits into three pieces.

The real reason, why this ship is cool is that the episode itself is a masterpiece of fun entertainment and the ship is just the cherry on top 😁

@21mushroomcupcakes33

Жыл бұрын

It was one of the better episodes of a generally disappointing and mediocre series.

@ionfalcom1

Жыл бұрын

@@21mushroomcupcakes33 Would you stop breathing down my neck!

@Rubix003

Жыл бұрын

Andy Dick being the EMH Mk2 was funny as well.

@evylinredwood

Жыл бұрын

@@firstname9954 I grew up watching Voyager. The main problem is simply that it doesn't deliver. It has fantastic characters, a neat premise, a great selection of actors, and a somewhat decent writing... but that "somewhat" decent writing is only episode by episode. There are a number of really bad episodes, including most importantly the ending, which was in my opinion a rather cheap way to end a show of such a concept. But aside from that, the story had more than a few major plot contrivances. There were a number of major story beats that were completely "chance". Also they swapped back and forth between "nebulas are space storms we can't notice until they're in front of us" and the more realistic depiction of nebulas. It's frustrating once you notice it. Last thing I can remember off the top of my head is that changes just didn't stick. Like, I know that it's supposed to be more of a day-time television show but holy cow, sometimes it takes them in-show weeks to fix a torn hull and sometimes the ship is nearly torn in half and they *canonically* fix it in under a week. Like, what? Overall, the show is - in my opinion - pretty damn good, though still a little boring. I'm at least glad that the ending doesn't completely invalidate the work of the crew over the prior, what, 172 episodes? Oh right and they literally change history for some episodes. Completely forgot about that one. Both writing-wise and in canon they break their own continuity on top of breaking the Temporal Accord on more than like 3 seperate occasions.

@NippyNep

4 ай бұрын

cope@@21mushroomcupcakes33

I always thought the Prometheus was an amazing sign of desperation. The reliable Defiant, Galaxy (war variant), Akira, Sovereign, and Steamrunner classes weren’t moving fast enough to quell the Dominion scourge, so they develop a super cruiser killer to try and win the war faster, only for it to be too logistically infeasible to actually employ anywhere but at home. Then again, I always wanted to see the Seige of Betazed where the Enterprise-E, a squadron of Defiants and Prometheuses, and the back line fleets go up against the Dominion alone.

@ijmad

Жыл бұрын

Agree, although it's not out of character for Starfleet. Starfleet are scientists and explorers. They constantly innovate new designs that are packed with scanners and particle emitters and reconfigurable everything, and try and win by finding a weakness or inventing something new. Their crews are taught to try and out-science or out-engineer their enemies on the hoof rather than win with pure firepower or superior numbers. It's not surprising to see echoes of this strategy at bigger scales like trying to win a whole war. By comparison, the Klingons are warriors. They produce huge numbers of time tested but uninventive Birds of Prey expecting them to be destroyed quickly. So long as the crews die honourably that's fine with them. The Romulans are arrogant and believe they're superior to everyone else. They build small numbers of extremely large Warbirds that stand their ground in a firefight and win with superior power. The Dominion are conquerors who terrorise their subjects into submission. They build the same ships for hundreds of years that aren't particularly effective on their own but make you run away screaming when you realise there's 10 times more ships in their fleet than in yours. Each major power's ethos and culture is reflected in their starships.

@martinjrgensen8234

Жыл бұрын

I just want to see a full wing of Defiant class ships operate in unison. It would be bloody terrifying

@casbot71

Жыл бұрын

I want to hear what was this forbidden power that the Betazoids used to get rid of the Dominion.

@tombaker8481

Жыл бұрын

I agree, this ship is a TOY that was thought up with little to no forsight into the minds of Starfleet engineering insight....and of course it appeared on what I consider was the lamest of the Star Trek TV series(Voyager)...."?multi vector assault mode?"...not to mention the STUPID emh program on this thing...I'd just cut my own wrist instead of having the bedside manner of that Andy Dick character....seriously, some so called writers really blew it with this joke of a ship.

@Dreamfox-df6bg

Жыл бұрын

See it this way. How many ships can they move from system defence to the front lines by bringing in Prometheus ships? Considering their firepower and speed you need fewer Prometheus-class ships than any other for the same job. Say three Prometheus replace one Sovereign, two a Galaxy and one for a Nebula (and ships with similar firepower). You still can send one Prometheus to deal with a nearby threat and still have some left to defend the system. With the speed of the Prometheus the detached ship can return quickly if needed. This does help a lot to to end a war sooner or leaves more ships for exploration and diplomacy in peace time.

i love how the defiant and the Prometheus classes are a direct result of starfleet being kind to the galaxy by being staunch pacifists. they spread their scientists out so much that they are still outpacing their neighbors in almost every aspect of technology and once you direct those minds to one goal suddenly the federation jumps decades into the future in just a couple months.

@TheAsvarduilProject

Жыл бұрын

This is why you never piss off the kind, good person who's sitting around, minding their own business. When they snap, they *snap*. The Federation is the good guy, even if they're imperfect. Just let the scientists study their comets. *Or else.*

@camerongunn7906

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAsvarduilProject Bingo.

@dougsmith6262

Жыл бұрын

As the Andorias say, don't push the pink skins to the thin ice.

@djprojectus

Жыл бұрын

@@dougsmith6262 Wakanda would disagree about pink skin😁 Don't push the coloured skin to the hin ice😂

@TheAsvarduilProject

Жыл бұрын

@@djprojectus ...pissing humans off is bad, mmkay?

If I was a lobbyist for building the Prometheus I would point out how this vessel is a much more humanitarian design as it enables the ability to better ensure the capture of of an adversary as well as the Diplomatic opportunity from minimizing the extent in which damage would be needed in order to defend yourself. This of course comes through with a firm but precise application of the multivector response mode. It is also a symbolic statement of Versatility diversity Unity. Sure the separation of the vessels could be seeing simply as advanced Patrol operations, but it is reasonable to believe that many would appreciate that the advanced synthesis systems and scientific investigating capabilities of each of the segments proves that it's not a war machine but a vessel dedicated to learning. Serious desire to follow where curiosity takes us. None of a singular mindset but one that is open to possibilities.

"Cerberus" is a pretty good name for a Prometheus. I used to play STO and I had a Mirrorverse Prometheus I named the "Shatterstar". Because mirrors and broken glass or something.

@michaelgreenwood3413

Жыл бұрын

one of the Variant Hulls is named it.

@Rubix003

Жыл бұрын

I normally name my mirror ships after Imperial Star Destroyers.

@jasonmarkus3834

Жыл бұрын

the USS Hydra

@Autocon609

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonmarkus3834 Aye, that's a good one as well.

@Colin_

5 ай бұрын

Years ago i started writing a short story with this class as the 'hero' ship. I never finished it tho. I called her USS Asimov (named after the scifi author).

I think the interesting thing about the Prometheus is that it's Starfleet handling logistics and shipbuilding in one package. Seems like they saw the need for the Defiant, and eventually its success, and thought, "Ok, we can create overpowered small ships. What if we made a standard-size ship, that's actually a battlegroup unto itself?" Thus was spawned the Prometheus class. Like the Defiant it's all firepower, but it's basically the Defiant up to eleven. Much like the Borg's tactical cube, the cube they send when they get serious about fighting, the Prometheus class is Starfleet's, "Ok, we're done f@#$ing around and letting people batter our shields down. Kid gloves off, brass knuckles on" starship. When the Prometheus class appears, Starfleet's done researching quasars and shuttling diplomats. It's ass-kickin' time.

I absolutely love this ship and it's design and concept. I would kill to have a show based on her and her crew

@__The_Real_V__

Жыл бұрын

@@bioswars8827 what does that textual diarrhea even have to do with MY want for a show based on this ship? You said a whole lot to say literally nothing

@Chaplain_Asmodai

Жыл бұрын

@@__The_Real_V__ he's trying to scam people into watching his crap

@dragonknightleader1

Жыл бұрын

That's a show that requires Andy Dick.

The Prometheus class has always made me wish, they had some galaxy saucer separation combat in the dominion war. Maybe not in a full on battle with it, but a last stand.

@adamlytle2615

Жыл бұрын

They definitely should have included at least one or two star drive sections in the fleet scenes. Just to imply that the saucer section with civilian population had been left behind, or that the saucer had been repurposed as medical or support ship/station nearby.

@0megasight

Жыл бұрын

@@adamlytle2615 that definitely would’ve been an improvement, but according to some background lore, many galaxy class ships during the dominion war were either evacuated of civilians or built to combat spec, without space for civilians.

@adamlytle2615

Жыл бұрын

@@0megasight yes I do recall hearing that they hastily built some galaxy class ships that had a lot of empty space inside. That seems... Inefficient to me. Evacuating civilian population and taking the whole ship with its large saucer mounted phaser array makes all kinds of sense though, for sure.

@0megasight

Жыл бұрын

@@adamlytle2615 oh definitely

The ship looks awesome. If the Defiant has a fighting profile akin to a Sumner-class destroyer, then the Prometheus is akin to a Zumwalt!

@gregoryclark8217

Жыл бұрын

They definitely have the "sitting in dock, not being used" bit down to a fine art.

Based on its abilities described, I think a good label for the Prometheus class might be interceptor.

the coolest thing that come out of voyager

I know why people think the "Multi-vector Assualt Mode" is stupid, but Voyager showed why it still works. MvAM turns a 3 on 1 battle into 3 on 3, with a large, maneuverable ship, with strong shields becoming 3 smaller, and more maneuverable ship, with weaker shields.

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

One of my favorites. From the BEST Voyager episode and possibly the funniest episode in all of Trek.

The episode where Prometheus debuted was set before the Dominion War and it was disappointing we never see it in DS9, even in the background or with some filler line. "The Prometheus managed to take out a Ketracel White depot!" or something like that.

@terryforsdyke306

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, you are mistaken, it would have been well into the Dominion War when Promethius debuted. In the episode The Doctor asks "Are the Federation at war with the Romulans" and EMH2 answer "No, the Romulans have not got involved in our fight with the Dominion". The Stardate of Message in a Bottle is 51462, which puts it around the midway point of DS9 season 6 about 2 weeks before the DS9 episode "One Little Ship", the DS9 episode "A Call to Arms" when the Dominion war started was Stardate 50975.

I'd say with the Romulan's no longer an issue all Prometheus Class vessels should be retro-fitted with cloaking devices.

Saw this in my notifications and was hoping that you were doing a video on the Prometheus class from Stargate SG-1, that being said you should totally do SG-1 videos

@A._is_for

Жыл бұрын

that's a fun idea!

“What happened to the Prometheus?” “It had to…” (puts on sunglasses) “…split.” YEEEEAAAAHHHHH!

I absolutely love listening to your videos on my second monitor. Your voice talking through Star Trek details is like ASMR.

I remember the first time we were introduced to the Prometheus Class was in the Star Trek Voyager Season 4 episode 'Message in a Bottle' and was seen again in the Season 7 episode 'Endgame Part 2' and I think we briefly saw it again in the Star Trek Enterprise season 3 episode 'Azati Prime' where Daniels brought Captain Archer into the future and we saw what looked like a Prometheus Class Starship outside the window.

Imagine a fleet of Prometheus class ships and all of them splitting…. And then when the battle is over and there are multiple sub ships that have been destroyed… Would they then make up new ships from the ship’s subsections? This could be why the NX part number doesn’t match the NCC part number… perhaps the test bed ships had parts that were from another ship?

@Revkor

Жыл бұрын

nah jsut a VX error

@barrybend7189

Жыл бұрын

So the Victory Gundam battle conundrum.

The Prometheus really exemplifies one of Starfleet's greatest weaknesses, its willingness to field bleeding edge tech rather than work the bugs out before putting it into combat. It's a marvel more ships don't blow up at random or end up found drifting with mummified crews because everything failed all at once. It's also not very clever to field something that large which requires so many maintenance hours per hour of use despite the degree of automation. Granted it can be flown by a literal handful of officers but it still needs a very busy crew just to hold it together. Yes, the new video looks great. I mean, all your videos look great but no worries with the new gear and software.

I always enjoy that you use footage from Star Trek Online, the quality is very good.

Glad to see you covered my favourite Trek ship. Glory to the Bluetooth Fleet!

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

to me it was a very good vid, I do miss your story series but understand why, keep up the great work certifiably ingame

@CertifiablyIngame

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, it will be continuing with the newest updates that came out a while ago soon!

Great job. Sound great!

Yeah I'd say it came out really well, this video looked and sounded great! The Prometheus is a great ship, and it's good to see a video on it - Nicely Done!!

I love this era of ship designs this one the Akira the sovereign they just look so damn good.

Audio is as good as ever, in game captured visuals look smoother and crisper.

Great video, went well and looks great!

I got this ship on STO and it's a blast of fun! Great for Tactical officers and feels great. I could watch the decoupling and recoupling animations for hours.

It came out well. Very well, like most things you do!

This was excellent timing for this episode, given that I just re-watched the episode of Voyager about Prometheus lol. Thank you for this video! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

Looked great. 👍🏻

An interesting thought about holo projectors throughout the ship, they could potentially project any environment they wanted while working. Hooters theme anyone?

@Colin_

Жыл бұрын

Also it could mean that if the ship is boarded (and so long as there is power) the ship could repel its borders by just manifesting any personal it needed ie Makos or security personal or damage control teams.

@ccibinel

Жыл бұрын

@@Colin_ Or just fill the section with holographic molten rock...

I love this series on ship classes!

Love This Video !! It’s My Favorite Class Of Starships Besides The Excelesior Class !!!

The video quality has definitely improved. Great job. 👍🏾

Most Informative!

never thought about it looking like a Power Rangers thing. Which, considering me, makes it instantly 400% cooler for me.

The federation knows how to make one hell of a ship.

My favorite ship…. woefully under appreciated

loud and cleas Mister, thank you.

I wish this ship was more cool in STO. I love ships that bring their own friends.

sound all good mate

Awesome vid

Nice to see someone picking up some slack from where others are failing on this topic.

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

The "why everyone else in the galaxy was happy that the federation didn't make warships" class. Along with the Defiant.

I actually thought the mic sounded a bit better even before you mentioned new software, so I’d say it’s working well!

Cool plot armor class.

What I imagine to be on the dedication plaque for the USS Prometheus: "Demons run when a good man goes to war. Night will fall and drown the sun when a good man goes to war. Friendship dies and true love lies. Night will fall and the dark will rise when a good man goes to war."

@linz8291

2 ай бұрын

Excellent, so the key point is don't go to war in any condition, go to explore space and building the exoplanets wonderful.

@davitto01

2 ай бұрын

@@linz8291 more if you go to war, make your enemies regret pushing you to it, as a warning to others.

Loved this class

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

Congrats to the new hard and software. Turned out fine

I have the prometheus novels. I wasn't crazy about the design but, it's starting to grow on me.

I've always liked the concept of the Multi Vector Assault Mode even if its a niche. How many times have we had ships rotate power to shield facings where the damage is coming from? Now you have a counter to that by not having an undamaged side to draw power from and in fact those too now need additional power to bolster shields allowing you to blow through the now unreinforced shields. And of course there is only so much energy to feed weapon systems to target three targets now.

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

@jamesd5842

Жыл бұрын

This might be my favorite Starfleet ship but for the multi-vector assault mode. It is entirely impractical and unnecessarily complicated and could easily be duplicated by just carrying two onboard drones. MVA mode is like they took a room of twelve year old boys and asked them what would make a cool ship and that’s what they came up with. My head canon is Starfleet woke up and got rid of MVA for the actual production models, radically cutting the cost and increasing reliability, getting a far more practical ship as a result

@toddkes5890

Жыл бұрын

MVAM is not a good idea. Compare two Prometheus designs: 1) Prometheus with MVAM 2) Prometheus without MVAM Prometheus with MVAM has to armor the exposed areas, has 1/3 of its power in each segment for both shields and weapons, and cannot reinforce one of the sections that takes more damage. Finally, if the upper engine section gets destroyed, the saucer section and lower engine section cannot reconnect. Prometheus without MVAM does not need to allocate armor to exposed areas, has its full power available to focus on a single target, and if part of the ship takes too much damage the power and shielding can be easily transferred from one section to another. The main use for a MVAM would be if the ship was designed to have a 'strategic section' and multiple 'tactical sections'. You have the Warp 9-capable main hull that is designed to support the full crew (medical, food, long-range sensors, long-term maintenance systems, 10-Forward, etc). The tactical sections would be designed to only last a week at most, and are not equipped for more than that. Essentially a carrier design, but with Defiant-style 'fighters' attached to the outside of the hull.

@laughingalex7563

Жыл бұрын

@@toddkes5890 I had similar thoughts, law of practicality, its like they were thinking of exposing more guns to fire. But my main thought was multiple complex mechanics can cause problems in the long run. Like the m16’s notorious reliablity issues in vietnam due to its more complex and compact parts compared to the ak-47. While the ak-47 had problems to, they were not as bad as the m16. Actually anything over-complex is doomed to have problems. So i think the mva mode probably got removed for that reason canonically. Its not even that useful if your using the promethius in star trek online as a torpedo boat.

@rubaiyat300

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesd5842 ironically 2 drones in addition to the three main sections was the original concept it was just too complicated for the FX budget to allow.

Woo hoo! I got to hit the Like button FIRST!! 😁 The hull # 59650 is the zip code it was constructed in. 😜

What i love about the Prometheus class is that it is, as Rick puts it, a long sword. See we forget that the Constitution was a pretty rugged ship and probably designed to be a heavy fighter during the Klingon federation war. Subsequently every design that bore the name enterprise was the most advanced and well equipped ship of her era. Powerful shields, powerful hulls powerful weapons. However they where never dedicated combat vessels they could just hold their own in a pinch with the idea being that space is dangerous. We also see that this policy has worked out. They had conflicts with the klingons, romulans, cardasians even recently by the time TNG was coming around and this policy of just making good equipment held up as they tended to come out on top or at least exhaust their enemy into a stand-still. The Prometheus is like the Defiant, what happens when you force a nation that doesn't want war, to make war-focused vessels. The defiant is small, durable, and focused. Able to dish out fire power that can as we've seen in the mirror universe, damage some of the biggest most durable ships out there. The prometheus is the weapon used to clear out entire regions. It's likely that a fully equipped federation fleet would have somewhere between a dozen and a hundred of these ships, one stationed at every major star base with no permanent crew but a permanent security detail. A number of trained security who's job it is to just keep the ship safe and probably a good number of people assigned as repair crew but the actual command crew would be just who happened to be avaliable from the starbase when a crisis came up being beamed over and quickly taking off with the Prometheus, find the threat, and deal with it.

I love the interior of the Prometheus, and generally the design looks cool. When it first aired I remember thinking the little warp nacelle was just the goofiest-looking thing, though.

My favourite ship design of the lot.

I think the basic Idea behind the MVAM actually came from the Enterprise D. The Saucer Section had been designed as purely a giant STL lifeboat. Yet they made use of it as a tactical asset in "Best of Both Worlds 2". This was just taking the concept and making a dedicated ship out of it.

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

@christopherg2347

Жыл бұрын

@@bioswars8827 What?

MY FAVORITE SHIP

Love the design of this ship, so much so I considered an "upgrade" to better arm the Prometheus

The Prometheus concept makes perfect sense. 1. Smaller constituent parts are more maneuverable, and harder to hit. Shields are also more efficient with less hull to cover, hence why the Defiant is so "tough." 2. Star Trek ships have "segmented" shields, the best strategy is always to present your strongest shield facing to the enemy... impossible to do if you're being attacked from multiple vectors. Hence, "multi-vector assault mode." The fact that the enemy has to split their fire between three targets also adds to the aforementioned survivability benefits. 3. The Prometheus is essentially three "escorts" on a Warp Sled. With the speed and range of a long range explorer, and the combat potential of three smaller ships. Plus, each ship is capable of warping independently so the Prometheus can cover more territory once it enters the AO. "But what if one of the segments gets destroyed?" What if an entire Defiant, or Saber class gets destroyed? That's a risk you take. Because each segment is warp capable, 2/3ds of the ship can still make it back, which is more than most ships can say after getting 33% of their hull destroyed. "Wouldn't redundancy make the ship more expensive to operate?" This is probably the reason behind the enhanced automation that allows it to be operated by a skeleton crew. So you don't need three of every kind of crewman.

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

reminder this ship has 3 entire separate warp drives, each one being of the 'overdriven' type installed in the Defiant. The amount of power generation they have available for propulsion, weapons, and shields on this thing is tremendous.

@UnChannelDuVulpineX

Жыл бұрын

The regenerative shielding requires a lot of that power.

It appears to me bow had 12 smaller torpedo ports and four larger ones . The aft is unseen. The sovereign had ten . So 16 isn't completely unreasonable. Video sounds and look great.

Favourite starship ever❤

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

@sabasman

Жыл бұрын

@@bioswars8827 mate...what are you ranting about?

Hey, look, it's Daniel from Spacedock's favorite Trek ship!

I honestly thought it would make more sense to have an intrepid or akira and 2 saber classes and just have them always together and use a coordinated attack program

@FreeloaderUK

Жыл бұрын

Yes, 2 build a ship that can split into 3 parts would require so much extra duplication of key components that a huge amount of internal volume and systems would be dedicated to achieve that. Probably more effective to produce 3 defiant or sabers. Though I like the promotheus design just without MVAM. I always thought it was a gimmick.

As much as I want to share the Federation's stance of not having warships, I doubt the rest of the universe would be so peaceful. The Prometheus is the perfect example of Theodore Roosevelt's idiom: "Speak softly, and carry a BIG stick".

Sir you should do the Vesta class next. Great channel and thank you

So top secret that the Romulans not only stole it but we're capable of flying it.

I love that ship.

I dislike the "multi vector assault mode." Get rid of the docking systems and redundancy needed for each individual ship, and it would make a great cruiser.

@andromidius

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it strikes me as kind of a pointless design concept. Just design a carrier and attack craft or build a squadron of smaller ships. Would be less resource intensive and probably more effective.

@90lancaster

Жыл бұрын

It is VERY automated so the crew wouldn't be needed as much. but yes a "cheapened down" version might be a practical mid-to-long range cruiser - but she's not got a lot of internal volume to spare for "stuff" and t's more an attack ship than a science or diplomatic one - it's designed to make things dead and do it fast.

@timesthree5757

Жыл бұрын

It actually makes sense to me.

@rubaiyat300

Жыл бұрын

@@timesthree5757 It can hit multiple shield facings on a single target at the same time. Given how many times we've seen the captain yell out to divert power to forward shields or whatever you now suddenly have a way to slice open the defenses of an otherwise tough target because it CAN'T divert power from anywhere.

@timesthree5757

Жыл бұрын

@@rubaiyat300 how?

An amazing ship design, wish we got to see it more often.

It would have been nice to have shown the vessel go through its many phases of separation and reassembly!

The Federation: We don't make warships...unless you really piss us off.

@A._is_for

Жыл бұрын

and in that case we make 3

To pull a a line from the Sovereign video, if one of these shows up in system, they probably aren't going to ask questions or announce themselves. They'll just start shooting. Love the names Cerberus and Kratos for this class.

Not sure if it's hindsight, but it may look better lol. Anyway..great video as always!

I would have loved to see more of it and preferably a battle with Prometheus class ships combined with Defiant class against whoever 😁

I wish we had seen it more. I got one in STO but ditched the multi vector stuff and make it a dual heavy cannon monster.

The Prometheus class seems to fit the role of a heavy interceptor based on how it was deployed

What's going on man? I miss your on line story. I'm a retired U.S. marine that suffers from combat ptsd. You have gotten me through many a bad day. I look forward to your Tuesday releases. I have watched your whole series many times, your channel has a bigger impact than you might realize. Your the best.

@Corbomite_Meatballs

Жыл бұрын

He caught up to the main STO storyline. They recently released a new update, so I imagine Ric's going to figure out how to add that in as well, esp. if he just got a new PC and is working out the setup for it.

@Rubix003

Жыл бұрын

Semper Fi, Marine. I also use his channel this way.

@jameslamountain7035

Жыл бұрын

@@Rubix003 semper fi brother

@linz8291

2 ай бұрын

Hello sailor, healing 174 hz, 432hz, 528hz, 741hz, or listening some white noise including ocean wave sounds, you'll get well soon and recovery fully. Best wishes.

The ship as a whole looks amazing ! The transformation though... not so much.

Thank you, as always, for these delightful videos, Rick! And I agree with you, the Cerberus would've been a vastly more fitting name. I have a few thoughts you might (or might not) find to be of potential interest, regarding this vessel. The Prometheus-class Starship's design was always a favorite of mine--the *design*, that is, not the *function*. I don't at all mind the ship being an aggressive combat vessel. In fact, I liked it quite a lot. However, I disliked the "try-hard" Multi-Vector Assault Mode rather strongly. I always felt that feature was just... Unnecessary, and borderline silly. I mean, it's only a matter of time until an opponent learned how to take control of the second and third sections not controlled directly by the crew, using the two secondary hull parts to destroy the primary hull part. This is not even taking into consideration the "how do you put it back together if the center part gets destroyed or its docking points get wrecked?" This issue only gets worse when you consider the possibility of individual parts having their warp nacelles or warp drives damaged beyond what can be repaired in the field, as that would lead to having to leave entire sections of the ship behind if you had to withdraw. Granted, this is better than an entire ship having to be abandoned, but I think I have ideas that help to alleviate this problem. Overall, I feel that it would be better off to have this vessel be a single ship that includes two complete warp drive systems (two of the larger warp cores working simultaneously) in the single vessel's assembly. This would allow it to take advantage of the quad nacelles to have a level of redundancy that other ships simply would not have (you could lose up to two nacelles and even lose an entire warp core, and still make it home without issue). In addition, you would have all of the firepower of those three pieces packed into a single ship. Arguably the most important thing would be shielding: if you included overlapping regenerative shielding systems (including all of the separate components for all three parts--or even just two of them--in a single ship), you'd have a vastly more durable vessel. PLUS, the separate ship-wide shield emitter systems could potentially operate at different frequencies simultaneously in addition to constantly rotating their frequency modulation (not claiming that I know for sure this would work, but it's a neat idea, you have to admit!), making it virtually impossible to adapt to and penetrate by matching shield modulation. You might get through one, but the other would still repel an attack. Sure, it would still be a resource-intensive vessel to build, but it would be less-so than the original three-part vessel--and, more importantly (in my opinion), it would be a ship design far less prone to potential weaknesses than the original design. And, of course, you could still keep the primary hull separation function for emergencies/evacuations, as the feature was originally meant to be, it just wouldn't be a warp-capable primary hull all on its own. This could arguably be considered a step backward, but since this wouldn't be a feature intended for combat use--at least most certainly not at warp speeds--it just makes sense to keep for emergencies. Personally, I kinda like the idea of this being an evolution of the original Prometheus, but that's just me. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this!

It came out well. =D

i like it

Do you have a video covering just the battle of sector 001 or have any plans to make one? I know the scene itself isn’t long in the movie but I feel like there would have been a lot of lore behind something so significant

This does seem like the kind of convoluted ship design that Cerberus in Mass Effect would make.

This is one class of ship I would love to have seen take part in the Dominion war or at least get a cameo in Lower Decks like how my other favorite class of ship the Luna class USS.Titan got.

Prometheus had a good concept, shame we didn't see more of it.

With holo-emitters on each deck, there's always the option to generate extra crew from holograms if needed. (And provided power/holo systems don't get knocked out! :D) Does pose an interesting question on what next-steps Starfleet should take in expanding automation. Voyager touched on holo rights and holo labour in it's final season, pity it wasn't explored more.

@varricrandustrevelyan6705

Жыл бұрын

Personally I loved the two parter Voyager had where the Hirogen took Voyager and turned the ship into a giant Holo deck. Using WW2 era soldiers to retake the ship was brilliant and I really wish they had something like that built into the Prometheus after it got stolen. An emergency holo-commando unit ready to retake the ship.

@mrbluebell2735

Жыл бұрын

By the picard series timeline, hologram suites of simulated crew have entered civilian use.

I've always thought that the ship was utterly bonkers and impractical.

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares what you think.

My favorite ship in Star Trek

@bioswars8827

Жыл бұрын

The author and illustrator of ROBO TREK 1987 and BIOS WARS would indicate differently, as to whom designed that ship. Check out the cover art for the ROBO TREK novel, or the more recent BIOS WARS videos. Furthermore, much of the ROBO TREK art works and story, has been pulled apart and use in STNG, ST DS9, ST VOYAGER, and more recently ST DISCOVERY. After the original 10C Proposal was submitted to Paramount/Viacom in the late 1980's early 1990's. God willing, those truths will be forthcoming, when Jemco DEEP releases better and more truly unique Canadian content.

I also thought that the bridge was too bright. It reminded me of the Enterprise-D and didn’t match the era. The Defiant And Intrepid bridge colors are more attractive and suited for it’s time. As for the halo emitters I would have would wanted an experimented with an EEH (Emergency Engineering Hologram) as well as any lesser roles such as a crewman class hologram. Which proved to be invaluable when the Voyager crew got taken on the “workforce episode,” and the doctor who was now the ECH (Emergency Command Hologram). Making repairs throughout the ship. Imagine if a ship has the ability to have half the crew complement, repairs would go through more smoothly.

I think my main like of the prometheus was just my general like of quad nacelles. Buuuut... I do think it has a big advantage in having redundant systems. Like one of the most common damages we see to starfleet ships is the warp systems going offline for some reason.

Just in case someone wanna know, the ship appeard in Star Trek Voyager 4x14 - Message in a Bottle

I can picture the crew stuck around space dock running endless drills. Hopefully they can relax on station or they have holodecks onboard

Also video looked good and sounded fine to me