Project Car Fiesta ST Gets COBB Stage 2! Before/After Dyno
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With 3,600 miles on the odometer, we take cameraman Thaddeus's 2014 Ford Fiesta ST in to COBB Tuning SoCal for the first-ever Stage 2 upgrade. We got an intercooler, cold air intake and their new off-the-shelf map for the V3 Accessport, then threw it on the dyno to see the very impressive results. All parts are prototypes and therefore will not look as pretty as the finished products, but they certainly work!
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cant wait to watch stage 10. 800 hp running on e85, 50 lbs of boost, torque steering in 6th gear.
@Burroughsbikebuilds
10 жыл бұрын
I legitimately laughed at this, hahaha
@ToxicHorsePucky
10 жыл бұрын
Haha, it'll sound like a vacuum at 50 psi! WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSH-PSSH-WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH-PSSH
@colinsdad1
3 жыл бұрын
They could always do what Mighty Car Mods in Australia did and just keep throwing boost at that stock block until it explodes!
@alexandertyrson2002
3 жыл бұрын
😂🤙
@ec5074
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️😆😆😆 great comment bud!!!
Seems like a nice little bang for your buck deal, and it also seems like this thing would be an incredibly fun daily. haha. Great video.
@5serieslover
10 жыл бұрын
Definitely... -legit Recaro seats -5 door practicality -30+ mpg -and a warranty
@stupidmonkez
10 жыл бұрын
I see you comment of every single video I watch. Love your mustang btw.
@ThatDudeinBlue
10 жыл бұрын
It's youtube and cars man haha. Thanks!
@sdlausen1
10 жыл бұрын
I always think that this is what Honda should have done with the CR-Z... I need to go test drive this Fiesta ST as my RSX-s is feeling it's age now.
@porsche911CarreraRSR
10 жыл бұрын
I like your videos! The 4 door turbo civic piece was great!
210WHP from a 1.6 liter with 270 torque at the wheels? That's fucking insane. It's good to see an American company trying to compete by not making a non shitty car.
@stanggt5090
2 жыл бұрын
The Fiesta ST wasn't designed in the US. The only thing Ford makes here is the trucks and SUVs
@tennybear6782
2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand it’s gone
I can't help but think that a car like this Fiesta ST is the most fun to drive in the real world. I believe that fun-wise, it will hold its own even when compared to supercars like the McLaren P1. I've driven quite a few fast cars back in the day and now this is the conclusion I've come to. Well done Ford, for keeping the hot hatch segment alive.
I've been watching Matts videos since I was in high school and he is the reason why I got into cars. Always answers questions and consistently providing good material. Matt to my eyes is a legend.
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
thanks.
I'm a huge fan of these little cars--that low-end torque is awesome. Really looking forward to seeing more vids on this!
Man, I've had my eye set on a FieSTa to replace my Turbo Neon for a while now. It's nice the FieSTa is as underrated in power as it is because it probably makes 10hp and 20tq more than my Neon does 8 years and 110,000 miles later. All while being like, 300 pounds lighter too.
@nyansugoi
Жыл бұрын
@CarFreak I ended up getting that Fiesta ST and I love every second of driving it. Granted, the NSRT-4 was an awesome car too, but I resonate much more with the Fiesta. Props to every NSRT-4 that's still out there wrecking it on the 40 rolls haha
Because of you sir... I got my Ford Fiesta and I love it! Thanks Matt! I got the mod bug and this is definitely on the list.
I just started working for Ford selling the product.. I drive a Fr-S and.. have to say, i am blown away by the Fiesta St, had it come out sooner im not sure which id take.. theyre both awesome cars, but damn the Fiesta St is a blast!
I only have 532 miles on my 2015 FiST, the 1st oil change was done in my garage yesterday, and my Cobb Stage 2 package will be arriving to the house tomorrow morning. Can't wait!
Can't wait to see the Stage 3! That's pretty badass Matt!
Man, over 200whp in a Fiesta has to be an absolute blast to drive. I had a ball in the 125hp base model rental Fiesta, I can only imagine what likely a full 100+ more HP at the wheels would be like.
Dude finally!!!! Ive been itching for part 2 a while now. Great vid and keep up the good work. :)
I've modified and had 2 cars dyno tuned, it was fun seeing the differences mods made... what I'd love to see is a real world back to back speedo comparison on the road. Hearing some guy say 'oh yeah it's faster' is okay but it's a far cry from the seat of the pants feeling.
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
you're going to get lap times at Buttonwillow. With the Stage 1 we did a 2:19.
im liking these vids of the ST man...keep this shit up!! cant wait for stage 3
Who would have ever thought that kind of power would be had in a compact. Wow! Domestics are slowly stepping up their game. Granted they've got a lot of ground to cover.
Definitely want to see stage 3, good stuff!
Can't wait to see what it does on the track. Maybe you should upgrade the tires as well
It's nice to see the Fiesta st in blue the best colour, I always see it in red, black, or white
nice to see a little engine doing something good. This is not new stuff, its just modern. Glad to see it anyway. Look out for the antique 140 hp beetle..don't cry.
You are the reason why I got the Fiesta St
I just got a 2015 fiesta st. Coming back and seeing these numbers is crazy. I'm in a cold Wisconsin climate, car has CPE intercooler, intake, catless DP, full straight pipe. It has a stratified 93 octane stage 2 (I think somewhat custom tune by previous owner) and it pulls like crazy. I want to get on a Dyno soon and see what it's making, I bet it's 220+ whp and 270-280wheel torque if we base it off of the colder temps and such up here.
Man... These people on the comments are nuts... Loved the video! I honestly don't like ford but the fact is that whoever talks about the fiesta AFTER driving it loves it so I guess its a great car, I wish I can have a ride on one and feel what everyone is talking about...
Great videos I have a fiesta st and I can't wait to get it tuned now. I am also looking forward to the stage 3 video
Awesome video man. I love that little car and I don't even own it yet. It seems to be the one you can't pass up for the driving experience. And glad to hear those modest gains translate so much to the seat of the pants.
What was the deciding factor that made you choose the fiesta over the focus? And how do you think the cobb packages will affect the longevity of the vehicle?
You keep making the Fiesta ST look so good. So much potential form that little power house, makes me want one more. Though, with the upgrades, have you guys noticed any significant changes in fuel economy, or massive torque steer? Also, besides from the stage 3 kit, what are some plans for project Fiesta? Can't wait to see more.
I like this. Following builds is fun! :D
This would be a mean little unit to drive. I think the next upgrade should be two 86mm turbo's and a 400 shot of Nitrous though, I wanna see this thing beat Tom Baily at the next drag week.
Been waiting for the stage 2!!!
A mechanical differential is a must have item on cars like these.
Good series! (Do able car for most people) Thanks Matt!
Another great video Matt! On a different note, how much booze do you consume to dull the embarrassment and anger you feel while reading the comments on your videos?
I know it’s an old video but you inspired me to get a fist and go stage 2! I love my car lol
Would not have guessed you would get those types of gains with such little being done.
Impressive gains. The turbo back exhaust should help drastically. Wouldn't be surprised to see 220whp with the new tune. Nice job Ford.
I'm really diggin this series
loved this series Matt, just out of curiosity, how much in total did all the COBB 3 Stage mods cost?
That car looks like a blast to drive. I am really, REALLY glad Fords building these kinds of cars. I'd still prefer to own a Mustang, but holy christ these little boxes are fast. I'm hoping some Fiesta STs and Focus STs show show up for auto-x this season. I'd like to get behind the wheel of one.
That looks like fun!
this particular video makes me happy ! it's the proof that even in my country we can have fun with cars ! and i wanted to know what you're at with that fox body project ?
I cant wait for another Project Fox Body Video!!!!!!!!!
Stage 1 quote in this video was higher than in the video it was installed. But none the less a very good gain from stage 1 to 2
+KieranHancock a radiator cools the engine coolant (water not air) using the ambient air temp. An intercooler uses the same method to cool the charged air that will go into your engine. The air gets hot because it is compressed and travels through the hot turbo. The intercooler helps to lower the temp of the air before it enters the engine. Engines work based on heat expansion. Cold dense air + fuel + detonation = expanding hot air. You want really cold air going into the engine for max expansion. The radiator is keeping your engine from overheating. There is an optimum temperature for the engine itself, for the best environment for biggest expansion at the perfect time. So, a racing radiator is not gonna get you the gains. Get a High flow intake pulling in air from a cool place. They work the same for NA as Turbo. The turbo sees bigger gains because it is amplifying the effects. Look of forums and see which ones have been the best for your car and always be mindful that if you are sucking in air from the lower corner of your car that a big puddle can mean you suck water straight in.
The gains... THE GAINS!!!!
Matt, Love your FiST project- I've watched them all- great, usable information for those of us who are just starting ours! I'm looking to create a "surgical instrument"- daily driver with enhanced handling, braking, and- of course- powah! It will also be invisible to all except the most discerning eye. Since you've done all 3 stages of Cobb's power tuning, what would you recommend for quiet, enahanced power. I'm sure that I will need, at least, the following: 1) AccessPort Tuner. 2) Intercooler & pipe kit. 3) Downpipe. 4) Rear Engine Mount. I've noticed that your Stage II has quicker spool up, along with increased HP/tq numbers- so, that may be "enough" for his project. I'm a long term owner (250k + miles), so, all increases must be backed with cooler running. I may add an intake and add heat shielding to reduce charge temps- ugly looking, but, it DOES keep temps down. I've run I/C sprayers(MAF & MAP) in the past, and, guess that someone has or will produce one soon. I will probably install lowering springs & braided stainless steel brake lines, along with better pads along the way. I'd really like to move the battery to the trunk, or, preferably, under the rear seat. I'll go AGM or Li-Ion if there is no reasonable way to do it. Strangely, I'll add the heavy soundproof matting to all interior cabin surfaces to reduce noise, and, make sure that I get a FiST with a sunroof, but, will go to crazy lengths to both reduce weight and center it! Middleage, I think it's addled my brain. Any thoughts will be appreciated, along with any ideas that you have to acheiving the target. Silly, but, I'll probably add small wheel spacers as well- just enough to push the wheels out, but, not enough to have them banging against the outer fender. A front air splitter (how vintage 80's DTM cup can U get?), and, a color matched LARGER rear wing, or, winglet- should be enough to remain subtle, yet, different from the jellybean commuter... So, no Baby Vomit Green, or, Molten Orange Tri-color for this project...Thanks again, and, if there's a better way to reach you, lemme know! Thanks in advance, Dave P.S. At 52 years old- 5' 9" @ 170Lbs- I think I'd prefer the stock seats over the Recaros? I "fit", but, the seat is too high in it's lowest position, and, the shifter feels like it's miles away? I WANT the HID's, but, could care less about MYFORD stereo & enhanced SYNC stuff...They all come with blueooth, so, I can pair my phone...XM, Sirius, superwide band radio...who cares?
@darinbierbaum9839
8 жыл бұрын
+David C. Gulliver So I've had my FiST for about 2 months so take this with a grain of salt, but so far I've really enjoyed the mods I've done. I have the RMM and Short Shifter kit which was a good quality of life improvement from the stock shifter. My plans from the car now are in this order 1. Accessport with Protuen 2. Front Mounted Intercooler for the heatsoak problems our cars have 3. Tires From what I understand the DP can actually cause loss of power on stock turbo because you end up losing some boost pressure. This information is from one of the best tuners on the FiST platform Adam from Tune+.
@DCGULL01
8 жыл бұрын
+Darin Bierbaum Good- so, I'm not interested in losing power- OR, pushing it further up the RPM band either. Small turbo means fast spool- and, there seems to be plenty of room for more remaining stock. I know (from other projects) about the HUGE improvement a RMM can make, and, a designed & balanced short shifter kit with bushings (both at shifter & at the transmission) can really make driving more fun as well. combined, they make the car feel like upper & lower strut tie bars have been added, and, the whole care feels more planted to boot. Intercooler is a no brainer to me, heatsoak kills power and turbos generate LOTS. A meth/H20 mister helps along with meth injection to reduce heatsoak. But, like Matt & others- who wants to refill the bottle all the time??? Hawk pads & braided SS brake lines improve bite and stopping... small improvements with NO offsetting compromises.
Somebody's driving that car real hard. Look at the brake dust on the front wheels
@nicojames2074
4 жыл бұрын
100% Unavoidable with these cars, no matter how lightly it’s driven
you guys should show the gains on VW's 2.0 tsi from a tune and /or downpipe, its impressive
@Saabpatrioten
10 жыл бұрын
Saab 2.0T stage 1 is impressive :)
@barfly246
10 жыл бұрын
How much over stock is stage 1
@Saabpatrioten
10 жыл бұрын
Al B 75Hk with only chip :) tdo4 turbo and 3" all the way and you are 150+bhk so about 320 krank bhp
Thanks Matt & The Smoking Tire for videos about cars that are under $300,000 being tested and tuned. I will never be in the market for a super car, but your advice on cars I can purchase is very useful. What would those camber tires do for a car like the fiesta?
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
it would probably be crazy. I don't know if they will work on the Fiesta yet, because you need adjustable caster/camber settings, but if they fit, the grip would be nuts.
it would be cool to get an update on this little hatch!
Matt, bring this to the Chicago 1/2 mile! Or your Fox body, lol. I'll be running my Focus ST, which I'm hoping to have all bolt ons by then ;)
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
are you suggesting I drive to Chicago for the weekend, rather than fly? No thanks.
I love this its not a fast car and its not even that expensive n any can do this upgrades in a weekend win for the lil guy :-)
Extremely impressive
Hmmm in the UK you can a mountune kit, that ford put on them selfs about £600 212 bhp
cant wait until I get this as my first car in a year or two
I cant wait any longer!!!! Where is the Fox Body update??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great daily car.... Matt still have the volt? This and a c5 vette too I think. I saw a video, if I remember he got rid of the raptor? I'll have to get one in a few years as a beater
The Smoking Tire Really want to buy the little st! I know Mountune makes a ford- warranted ecu upgrade, and that they partnered with Cobb to do it. Any word on whether these Cobb tunes would maintain or break Ford warrantee? Cost on stage 2 upgrade?
It would be interesting to see a race between your 5 liter heater and the Fiesta ST. Drag race and track battle.
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
we compared lap times with the stage 1 here Project Fox Mustang - First Race Track Test
Damn I bet that's a fun@$$ ride! Any idea on how the mods have affected fuel economy around town, just with regular driving or highway cruising?
When is Cobb going to release more parts for this car? Catless downpipe? More stuff?
3rd gear wot in town. That's the shit I like haha. Love this show
having a V1=good, plugging it in=BETTER!
@Burroughsbikebuilds
10 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too!
@reaj2010
3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean plugging it in?
Hey Matt, any updates on the Mustang? Really curious to see how that thing turns out.
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
nope
Since it’s the same 1.6 ecoboost as the escape would the bolt ons and tune work for it aswell.
As a owner of a Fiesta ST I can tell you this is the most fun I have ever had in a car bar none. To the OP... can you install the intercooler without going with an aftermarket exhaust? Will you still see the gains?
Any way you could do a video on shifting?
Ah, your stock Fist on that dyno came out to 189, 236? I came out with 177, 220 at the place I went to. Just goes to show how important it is to use the same dyno and conditions when comparing wheel numbers, I guess. I have no plans to get power adders though. I just want to see how much power my car will have lost several years from now.
I love this show/web show!
Yeah I'm hyped to see Stage 3 for this. Nice to see a video showing that you don't really need "moving" parts to increase your HP, just a well balanced full setup!
anyone else see the viper in the COBB lot when he was pulling back in after the test drive?
dat flat bump on that steering column though.
Out of curiosity, is there a reason you don't hardwire your V1? Do you not run the RD full time in the Fiesta ST?
Cobb needs to hurry up and release those parts so I can stick them on my Fiesta ST XD
i want to get to stage 3 so bad on my '19 FiSt... its brand and i put 3k miles on it and im prolly going to wait till around 10k miles before i start stage 1 and continue staging it...plus i want to save some money for it.
Love this show
When us stage 3 coming
@RileyBassing
3 жыл бұрын
Never apparently
Nice gains
Wish I had a lift. Really low RPM torque, car would be great with a inexpensive 16G turbo with good midrange for DD still.
Sounds really good are those the recaro seats? Any chance of a comparo with the focus st?
I watched both videos since I own a 2014 Fiesta ST and I would have like to see you do the dyno without parts, then with parts, then with the tune. Is the tune even doing anything??
272 lb/ft torque at 2400 rpm. Wow! TheSmokingTire Are you getting full boost that low in the rev range?
Stage 2 u need a downpipe now its just stage 1+ put some good fuell in
Exhaust and a tune again, I doubt that much horsepower will be added but we'll see!
@bunkaaa8726
10 жыл бұрын
for a turbo?? big difference dude!
@rambow70
10 жыл бұрын
I would like to see an exhaust too but an active one with high flow cats so its still pretty practical, hopefully it can boost the power up more because of how free that intake is but how choked it gets when it tries to expel what it just sucked in
Hey I'm sure it's been asked but which intake and intercooler did you guys use? I'm looking for the same things you guys got but for my fiesta ST. Thanks in advance!
Will these upgrades void the warranty? Or did you buy the car outright?, I just inquired about a new one today.......
So, what are Cobb stage 2 Fiestas running in the 1/4? Any estimate at least?
Now for a hard question: ST vs Fox Body, which has more smiles per miles for you?
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
There's room in the garage for both.
@TexasRedneck
10 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, kind of they they are for different things. But I would like to see both at a track and see which is faster :D
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
TexasRedneck Well we already did that once, and we're going to do it again when the Fox is done Project Fox Mustang - First Race Track Test
@TexasRedneck
10 жыл бұрын
TheSmokingTire doh, my bad I forgot about that :D...as you were
@jjlwis
10 жыл бұрын
***** wait a few years..... it will grow on you... I think it's one of the best looking and quite understated!
what the 0-60 time for stage 1?
It was an interesting car to ride it. Good bang for your buck
since the car is a lease does the vehicle have to be brought back to stock form when the lease is over?
Thanks Matt that would explain it then :-)
5 doors ST ? What?? Nice job :)
*Wait, why does it have so much torque to begin with? Doesn't the car only have 202 tq at stock? How did it make 236 tq?* I'm on the verge of buying this car, and I'm getting really excited!.. Please explain.
@allanalfaro1384
7 жыл бұрын
AzNightmare stage 1 is baseline no stock
Hey make a update video on your Delorean
I always wonder, what is the policies with the warranty with these modifications? Do they void the warranty, or you get some sort of certificate, how does it work in the USA?
hey matt, any word on a tune for the 1.6 liter ecoboost found in the fusion? i'm a proud owner of a 2013 fusion with this engine, and it's great around town but when you want to drive spiritedly it definitely could use some extra grunt.
@TheSmokingTire
10 жыл бұрын
I don't really know, you'd have to ask Cobb. I'm sure they can pro-tune anything you bring them.
Does the Cobb tune and hardware void your oem warranty?
Quick question more for stage 1, does ford offer a mountune package in the USA
Fiesta vs Focus. Pros and cons for both?