They will change it to 'fines' just as soon as Man City's cases come up

@errolgordon9615

Ай бұрын

True ..that is why they wanna stop the point deduction….cuz the fine mean ntg to Moneycity….

@jimwatkins3134

Ай бұрын

money city or shall I say man shity! im a man utd fan! city have 115 charges! it makes no sense to change it to fines that is so evil!@@errolgordon9615

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

😂😂 buzzing news CITY CITY CITY

@flickchic238

Ай бұрын

@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 Yup. City is the premier league's cash cow

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

@@flickchic238 get ya self a rich owner like us and all your worries will vanish.. CITY CITY CITY

115 has no limits. How convenient. Which fans want fines instead of point deduction? Ridiculous! Fines are a slap on the wrist to those rich corrupt club

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

Laughing my bollox off.. CITY CITY CITY CITY CITY

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

Ай бұрын

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are considered Cheats?🤣

@MUFCK7

Ай бұрын

​@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49Shit club, no history

@patphillips3407

Ай бұрын

​@@MUFCK7perfect response haha

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

@@MUFCK7 your breaking my heart.. 😂😂

what a disgrace. punish everton and forest then change rules to fines for man city.

@nathanieltyghe4526

Ай бұрын

Did u even listen? He said they won't change it 😂

Breaking news: It's 2027 and Manchester City have been cleared of all charges due to another time barred scenario 😂

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

Buzzing... CITY CITY CITY

@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789

Ай бұрын

​@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 what a loser going to every comment, commenting this crap. 115 cheats 😂

@charlieairey4207

Ай бұрын

@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 cheats

@treytoomuch

Ай бұрын

lol but that can’t be the case because there is no statute of limitation for the premier league - they’ll instead sweep it under the rug with a bs fine due to hit the premier league would take if city were to be properly investigated

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

@@treytoomuch ..Gareth Keenan Investigates..

Give Everton and Forest their points back and speed up installing the Government regulator to run the corrupt PL!

@azza536

Ай бұрын

Have you seen the government? 😂😂

@keithwilliams2218

Ай бұрын

@@azza536 True 😂😂😂 but surely the government couldn’t mess up football anymore than what the PL are doing.

PL wanted 17 points deducton to Everton, 12 for the first charge and 5 for the second. At the same time they gave 4 to Forest for a bigger breach than what they wanted to give 12 to Everton. At the same time they are dragging their feet in advantage of ManC and other "bigger" clubs. Still a lot of people supports PL's agenda against Everton and the press don't talk about the number 17

@mikem8211

Ай бұрын

Everton are bigger than City that's what I find funny 😂

@gavincunningham4598

Ай бұрын

It's a piss take

@stuartrowland4818

Ай бұрын

​@@mikem8211Reading and comprehension, not your strong suit?

Big 6 monopoly Absolutely sick of it

Fines are pointless when you have bottomless pockets. Wage caps, transfer bans and transfer limits are needed. Higher percentage of PL income to be spread through the leagues and more focus on academy development.

They've screwed up by deducting Everton and Notts Forest points, they know it would mean MC playing in a pub league so the deductions will stop. City have 70+ lawyers involved in their case, they will likely get a suspended transfer embargo 🙄

@AbbyIturrios

Ай бұрын

Oh lets hope so

The cartel still protected, clubs unable to spend and compete. Absolute corruption.

@reluctantsocialist2670

Ай бұрын

Funny you think this way now you have human rights abusers for owners, was a bit different though when it was your owner TAKING from the club, you didn't like THAT spending, huh? Maybe if you were a big club you'd have the fanbase to generate the revenue to enable you to spend like the "cartel", you could always get that fanbase how they did, by building on onfield success and not just having a human rights abuser rich in rotten dinosaurs parachute in and buy success

@derelict06

Ай бұрын

You know its the clubs that make these rules right? Weird that all these clubs create rules to prop up the minority … almost as if that’s not the case and you just don’t understand how football works

@AbbyIturrios

Ай бұрын

Your club voted for these rules lol, reeping what you sew

@-GeordieDan-

Ай бұрын

@@AbbyIturrios Mike Ashley has been gone for years - our current owners never voted for this. Hence there needs to be a new vote/options on the table.

This bloke hasn't got a clue how the meeting is going

@steeldragon7534

Ай бұрын

Right

@TNT_12

Ай бұрын

and you do?

The "Football association premier league limited" in 2022, made a loss of £222m. Their annual operating costs are £326m 2022 and just a couple million less in 2021. What the F are you spending that money on and if it is to pay out winnings to teams with 115 charges, you better get that money back if they are found guilty and had/have an unfair advantage which means you had to pay them more than you should have, plus a points deductions in line with previous deductions to scale.

I miss the old football league 😕

@tosser1485

Ай бұрын

We all do

105 million over 3 years is a joke why hasn’t it went up with at least inflation it should be a lot higher

@jkutv

Ай бұрын

Ye it's too low. For villa we can easy lose a lot more no problem as our owners have got that money. It's not make believe money we have it in the bank. They will cover it and write it off.

@TurtleJeff94

Ай бұрын

I think most clubs are on the brink of breaching. That January transfer window was insanely quiet

@BigDom61

Ай бұрын

@@TurtleJeff94 the premier league have to change it because we can’t compete with the Saudi league in wages and transfers even if clubs have the money

@treytoomuch

Ай бұрын

218 million to be exact It’s the stupidiest system for a regulator that oversees this large of revenue intake to not factor in basic accounting rules

@BigDom61

Ай бұрын

@@treytoomuch if that’s the case I don’t think any club in the premier league would not agree to 218 mil it doubles what clubs can spend now then put it up with inflation every 3 years simple

When are they gonna address Man City's case?

@tosser1485

Ай бұрын

They won't because the elite at the top don't want smaller clubs to spend to help compete

@linimcfc715

Ай бұрын

​@tosser1485 you mean the red cartel

@thesaint5619

Ай бұрын

You mean like leicester ?​@@tosser1485

Absolute corruption. No one high up in football has a back bone!

Yeah city has no influence on this 😂 it seems

If City were to be given a points deduction or even relegation, this would be a knock to the premier league's popularity and revenue. They will give City a fine and that will be that. The premier league's refereeing, and rule enforcement are atrocious for a league that's seen as "the best in the world".

@joshuaw9675

Ай бұрын

A points deduction is very fair. Considering what they did to Everton for a far smaller breach, essentially ruined their season. The premier league have to maintain integrity, Man City will be treated like all the other clubs

@mohsdef

Ай бұрын

Refereeing is atrocious, because it it is quite clearly Corrupt!

What do we want? Transparency & Consistency. Will we get it? Never.

How else will they fix the matches openly and nobody can oppose to them. How independent are these independent committee?

What about city

Well if points deduction to get scrapped then Everton and forest should have all their points back...the league wanted Everton to have 17 points for q less breach than forest who had 4 ....how can you have a different pamel for every case

Premier League don't want anyone competing with the top 6

@philipnapier3585

Ай бұрын

That's a fact

what about man city's 115 charges and fines not a suitable punishment

Every financial news with City on headline: 1 million views Every singnificant financial news without City on headline: 4k views And comment section automatically says 115 charges Wake up, it got to the point that even other teams and PL think this rule is nonsense..

What & When are MC & Chelsea going to be accountable for their breaches etc?

look as a man utd fan, im not against man city fans, fair play they have a right to support their team on the pitch and love them , my point is this, if Fulham and Everton got punished for minor breaches, man city with 115 charges should be relegated, the fa should force man city owners to sell and leave, and also strip them of all their titles! fair play? yes it is! bloody oath! rules are their equally for every single club whether a big club or small, everyone should be equal, no backhand money deals or paying off the lawyers to bribe the fa, which city are well known for! money should be be allowed to be used to buy them out of trouble! the punishment should fit the crime!

@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

Ай бұрын

Laughing my bollox off CITY' CITY' CITY

@jimwatkins3134

Ай бұрын

laugh now cry later when they get relegated lol@@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49

@topazmcfc1427

Ай бұрын

You people keep saying these things as if Man City will be found guilty. Of course this punishment is deserved for these charges. But it doesn't help that everyone cries about it when there's nothing you all can do about it.

@velvaka

Ай бұрын

Take your meds bro 😂😂

@mockinghyena960

Ай бұрын

You've gone too far Truly, a Man Utd fan 😂😂😂

City have 115 charges and it’s been a year and nothing has been done. Clubs like Forest and Everton have small chargers and they are being docked points. When will City be investigated ? What is the hold up?

FFP / PSR will be the death knell of the PL, its anti-competitive and unworkable. When Serie A or La Liga are the top league in 10 years time, we'll look back on this as the catalyst.

The point deduction should stay

its 2030 chelsea still in 10 th place

@mikem8211

Ай бұрын

It's 1996 - they regularly finished 10 th 😂

Money has really mucked up a once truly great sports league

Damn, so my club Chelsea will still get points deducted 😂. I’ve already made peace with the Cyprus confidential papers and the abromovich issues that were raised in it.

The longer man city play in the premier league the longer they stain English football

Impossible for clubs to grow now.

Fines are a farce when clubs are backed by the wrath of nation states. Bring in the government regulator if fines are on the table

Needs to happen in one go - at beginning or end of the season.

This is the start of the end of English Premier League. It's time to start a new football league

We need to protest against this injustice. Why is it that smaller clubs get punished instantly but it takes forever for city to get relegated? Now they want to change the point deduction punishment for something that city won't really be affected by

If you look at Red Bull's budget cap breach punishment in F1 (or rather the lack of it), the sporting punishment must be a harsh one for financial breaches and that should include point deductions and a disqualification. A fine doesn't solve anything...

Corruption corruption corruption corruption corruption corruption, I feel sorry for Everton .

@-_Blitz_-

Ай бұрын

They cheated, these comments are unbelievable 😂

@Sutty0151

Ай бұрын

@@-_Blitz_-the fact is softlad if there was no war efc wouldn’t have breached psr

@-_Blitz_-

Ай бұрын

@@Sutty0151 Explain yourself "softlad" 😂

@Sutty0151

Ай бұрын

@@-_Blitz_- go read how much efc lost because a war started they had nothing to do with softlad

@-_Blitz_-

Ай бұрын

@@Sutty0151 can't find anything about it

They should still point deduct everyone who broke the current rules, but after this season, they then move to a fine based ruling system !

Should be no appeals.

@magicaces13

Ай бұрын

It's ridiculous right. If your final accounts show you've broken the rules how can you appeal that? Obviously the epl itself should have set out exactly what punishments were for breaches which seem to be open to interpretation, which again is ridiculous. They need to sort this mess out.

Bring back Division 1 and the vidiprinter.

I would propose that EPL stakeholders to come up with body that will check on signing of players...my suggestion further would be that before club sign a player the body has to approve.. So that it remain a win /win to all clubs

Forget about the clubs, fans won’t put up with it, boycott will sort it out. Let’s see how much money they loose if the fans turn off

Shoile be equal od thr bigger clubs snd small what about city

What the point of fines the mega rich clubs it’s like spending pennies to them how is that going to make it fair

Over 100 charges against city and yet no points deduction is already a joke..but to give them more power to spend even more is absolutely ridiculous..cuz they will just pay the fine and get away with it..

They are all dancing around the issues that football costs are out of control, player fees are out of control as are any of the add ons like agent fees. I have never understood why players are not responsible for those fees.

Here is a suggestion: 1. points deductions for the Current Season have to initially be given by January 31st. Any deductions that are given after this date apply to next season. 2. Appeals for the current season have to be submitted by February 14th. 3. Hearings of appeals have to be completed by April 1st & final decision on appeal made and published by April 10th.

This will just weaken the competition. Once the big teams lose their way, no upcoming teams to succeed them

Can we already deduct 15 to 30 points from the club with 115 charges?

As a Leicester fan id like to know from day one next season that its a set number of points deducted , Thats it get on with it, because all of the rumours and confusion have nothing to do with the playing side ,or the fans and its not helped our run in .I want a clear ruling no appeals , treat everyone the same.

It takes way to long for PL to make a judgement. If that can not be fixed, it should be binned. I do feel sorry for Everton fans, look what they have been through this year...crazy.

Salary cap needs to be introduced. 95% of money in football goes to players yet these players never give money to struggling clubs when they're loaded!

City will just change the rule to “four legs good two legs better”

"Keep the rich, rich and the poor, poor" The new Premier League motto. We will never see another Leicester or Blackburn, these corrupt helmets are making sure of that

Manchester City and Chelsea winners

Simple solution wages cap Every club can spend what they want but wages can not go over say 150 million

Good to hear that there will be real deterrence also in the future for breaching the PSR. And of course Manchester City will be judged by the FFP rules, including the PSR, which were, and still are, in force when they committed their 115 breaches. Everton should be confident their well grounded appeal against that further 2 points deduction will wipe that reduction out. Now the most important thing for the Premier League and its various commissions, to preserve at least some part of their respectability and credibility, is the equal treatment with the same principles of all the member clubs, in the ongoing and upcoming FFP and PSR cases.

The system is broken all to help the top 6 so obviously the current system doesn't benefit the top teams no longer so the new rules will have to benefit them more.

The beautiful game is dying

Everton should have breach more than 115 rules to avoid any punishment!! 😂😂

Corrupt system ,they should give Man City the verdict

How a team who make lose and still have to pay the fine.

its still the same clubs at the top and everyone else,

I don’t see why there needs to be changes at all? You break the rules, you get punished. Every club knows the rules, every club is subject to them.

How convenient for city just pay the fines no real punishment 😂😂😂 the kuruption is real people

I can see 14 teams leaving the premier league and making their own league if this carries on

They will be changed to fines which 115 club will gladly pay..what a joke

I just wish big clubs get delt with same as clubs like Everton, Leicester and Nottingham forest. Points deduction is aload of crock. Most competitive league in the world my backside. Punish the crap clubs and save the top 6.

Here to stay? Maybe but when will they get around to man city and Chelsea or can we expect that 10 yrs from now?

I bet Manchester Cheaty are loving this!

The whole of PSR needs scrapping and start again.

Praise the 115 😂 I can say with utmost certainty Boehly wanted the fines rule, probably even Kroenke on top of other US owners. This is how they run their crooked hockey basketball and baseball leagues, billionaires washing each others backs

‘You were caught cheating and we’ve punished you by doing something that actually has an impact’ ‘Oh no we don’t like that’ Big surprise there

Why are they consulting clubs? Those that have or want to break the rules will clearly push for a fine. Get some balls premier league and TELL them how it's going to be. If anyone for a second thinks a European super league would make more money than the premier league does they're having a laugh

@chrisburgess2432

Ай бұрын

This. It's like when the 6 said they were leaving to join the super league the Premier league let them choose their own fines

All clubs should be protected under the rules they were using at the time it doesn’t matter if they are changed

The points deduction is still the most fair option. Fines would not be an issue for clubs like mancity

Keep the points deduction, the deep pocket owned clubs will be able to pay off any fines

So we have to sell Gallagher

115 get it sorted

Chelsea man city

I just don't get it if Everton nott forest and other clubs get points deductions. Why isn't man city not being charged carrying on in champions league premier league all cup competitions as if nothing has happened there 'charges go back years . They need to be punished now. And all of there trophies taken off them. Personally i cant watch them because in my head i keep thinking cheats.

Scrap FFP and let Newcastle spend Saudi money!

How very convenient

115 pays it with cheeky ease😂😂

The rich clubs still couldn't go and spend what they want even of it was changed as uefa still has rules, so if the big or rich clubs want to play in Europe they have to meet uefa ffp rules

115

Man city got too much money and it's unfair to the small teams

Are we only sport that does this??? Im sure we are.

Fines that are peanut chump change to one oil club. This is number 1 bull 💩

A move to favour city

Manchester City has no influence, does they? 🤣🤣🤣

So let’s take their money for them spending too much money… got it

relegate city already. 100 plus charges and nothing? Absurd.

@mockinghyena960

Ай бұрын

Calm down, it takes time

What about Manchester City, Newcastle utd ? It is shame that the rules are applicable for the smaller ones.

@paulcorrigan1174

Ай бұрын

Why bring Newcastle into this 🤔

@mohsdef

Ай бұрын

Newcastle have been prudent

@stuartrowland4818

Ай бұрын

​@@mohsdef"Newcastle’s net spend since the Saudi Arabian PIF became owners in 2021 is €389m. They have spent €440.1m on transfers during that time, while the Magpies have earned €51.1m in player sales." They have not been noticeably extravagant, as many expected, but they have not been especially prudent.

@philipnapier3585

Ай бұрын

​@@stuartrowland4818West Ham, Villa,Chelsea, MU, among others have all spent more so as others say why mention Newcastle. Obviously your a fan of one of the so called big 6 and Newcastle frighten you. Go cry on your boyfriend s shoulder

So called big 6 have spoken. Of course it will change when city and Chelsea are found guilty and are deducted points!

What a joke, man cheaty will never get a proper punishment