Professor Sunetra Gupta on questioning lockdown | from Reality, models, and mayhem

Michael Shermer, Sunetra Gupta and Bjørn Ekeberg discuss the relationship between scientific models and empirical reality.
What does it mean to "trust the science"? Do mathematical models resemble the real world? Should we expect them to?
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In the last 100 years, some of the greatest minds - from the founders of quantum mechanics such as Heisenberg and Planck to Hawking - have moved away from thinking science can capture an objective ultimate reality. And yet from dark matter to string theory, we still look for the correct answer, sure that the next theory might be the one. Is this a fundamental mistake? Hawking in his final book certainly concluded it was, saying 'There is no unique picture of reality', but rather that each competing model frames its own version of reality.Should we give up on a single true account and accept that there are many alternative scientific accounts of the world, each with their own effectiveness? Would this enable a greater plurality of theories and enable faster technical advance? Or does an account of science as mere models risk encouraging the pursuit of empty alternatives with no way to choose between them, threatening the whole edifice of science itself?
#covid19 #immunology #antilockdown
Pioneering philosopher of science Bjørn Ekeberg, pre-eminent sceptic Michael Shermer, and Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology at the University of Oxford Sunetra Gupta debate whether science can ever achieve an objective model of ultimate reality.
00:00 Doxa
00:17 Two models
02:51 Epidemology vs physics
04:10 The comparative method
04:45 Was there a lab leak?
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  • @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas
    @TheInstituteOfArtAndIdeas8 ай бұрын

    To what degree was lockdown responsible for stopping the spread of covid? Leave your thoughts in the comments. To watch the full debate, head to iai.tv/video/reality-models-and-mayhem?KZread&

  • @ahartify

    @ahartify

    8 ай бұрын

    What do you mean by 'lockdown?' Closing enclosed public spaces, international border controls, quarantine? The countries with some form of lockdown or social distancing, including the use of non-pharmaceutical interventions, did better in terms of lower death rates. The UK had one of the highest death rates in the world due to irresponsibly lax interventions.

  • @sophitsa79
    @sophitsa798 ай бұрын

    I'm really surprised that there was no mention of vaccines because my understanding was that we locked down tightly until enough of our population was vaccinated. That's also why we weren't locked down after we were all vaccinated. I think this snippet was just too short to discuss this kind of topic

  • @BlueInk912
    @BlueInk9127 ай бұрын

    Love & Respect Sunetra Gupta.

  • @ChrisInToon
    @ChrisInToon7 ай бұрын

    The 91DIVOC came from the skies on a comet from space if it really was a thing, failing that it may as well have been psychogenic phenomena.

  • @vikingvst
    @vikingvst8 ай бұрын

    There are many countries where lockdown was only implemented in main cities. Everywhere else people lived normally. and there was no covid explosion. Even many parts of America did not have lockdown and there was no rise in covid deaths. Covid deaths spiked only after Vaccine. This should analysed in any serious discussion

  • @lolxlol1127
    @lolxlol11277 ай бұрын

    I have very serious questions related to COVID-19 vaccine. Did vaccine really work to prevent the infection rate? Why is it that death among young people increased after the vaccination drive?

  • @ChrisInToon

    @ChrisInToon

    7 ай бұрын

    your question will probably go unanswered by the officialdom. But I think that you know by your line of enquiry that something is very wrong.