Productive Math Struggle: Week 1 (John SanGiovanni)
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This week in our Productive Math Struggle book study, we're discussing the Introduction, Chapter 1, and Chapter 2 of the book. This book chat is hosted by Brittany and guest speaker John SanGiovanni, author of Productive Math Struggle.
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A big ah ha was reading the teacher vignette where she grew up thinking she was a bad math student. It was only when she took math college courses that she realized that she could learn math multiple ways. That was me.
I had SO many ah ha moments but I think the biggest one was when I read, "Struggle develops perseverance, resilience, and grit." I heard someone say a while back, that students aren't smart, they're hard workers. If we constantly tell students they're smart when they solve a problem then when they get to a problem that's difficult for them to solve or takes them a little longer to solve, they'll think they're dumb. We want to change the narrative and tell students they're hard workers so that even when something difficult comes up, they'll work hard to figure it out instead of giving up. Changing the mindset of students to a growth mindset and allowing them to fully believe and understand that failure is okay is not going to be an easy task but it will set them up for greatness in the future.
2nd Book Study. Atlanta, 8th Grade...this applies! "All students deserve the right to struggle." Reading this book will ensure that after "productive struggle" comes learning that is remembered.
Fantastic discussion. My aha moment was understanding the very different experiences my students have been having regarding struggle. Some seeming to be in a constant state of struggle that results in a never ending cycle of trying to memorize facts and steps, while others who experience it very little leave unprepared for what to do when it arises later on.
Instructional Coordinator from TX--I'm excited to share the identity activities (p. 38-46) with our teachers as we head into the new academic year and look for opportunities to keep tabs on our students as their identities change throughout the year!!
Yes! Sometimes we feel like we have failed as teachers, when students struggle after a lesson! I am working to shifting my role as facilitator rather than teacher of math!
I teach 5th-grade and will be starting my 8th year in August. I am watching the recording this week and have very much enjoyed hearing the discussion. It is hard to boil down just one Aha! moment, but ultimately I think one thing that stood out very sharply to me is that the way we teach math may be crushing the kind of thinking we want from our students. I kept thinking as I was listening that we strive for students to think critically and deeply about math and to be creative problem solvers, but at the same time if we crush and eliminate struggle we are crushing and eliminating the very type of thinking we are trying to develop in our students. I had a negative math identity as a student and felt like I just couldn't do math. It was so ingrained in my self-image that it delayed my finishing college and beginning my career for a long time. It wasn't until I had an amazing math instructor in college that I learned to trust my own mathematics. I strive to build that same trust of self in my students and I have felt frustrated by not being as successful in that as I'd like. I feel like I have found some ideas in this book that are going to help further my journey on this path. I look forward to continuing to learn more.
This is my first book study. An ah ha moment for me was letting students struggle. I am very much a “fix-it” person.
The discussion of chapter 3 was great. There was a quote that was shared: "What is understood is not forgotten." How would we explain to teachers who believe speed is the best way to check student understanding that it is not. What should they be looking for? And how do we explain to teachers that students may have "known" their math facts last spring but they don't know them at the start of a new year? What does true understanding look like?
Just catching up from last week. I’m a 4th grade math teacher in Texas. This is my 3rd (I think?) book study with Mix and Math. Thank you for providing these each year!
My first book study and have loved the wonderful insights in this book!!!
Second Book Study for me! I teach 5th grade math. Excited to go through this book with you!
Hi there, I teach 5th grade in Texas. This is my first book study and I’m already enjoying it so much!
I am loving this book study! As a student, I always learned and succeeded in math in the most non traditional ways! Thank God for Mrs. Cambus who encouraged this! If a student can solve a math problem without following a strategy taught in a lesson like taking a number apart. Should a teachers give them all the credit? Sometimes the assessments are set up with the expectation of students to follow the strategy taught in the lesson.
Hi! This is my first book study. I'm excited to continue learning!
Watching this a bit late since I’m on vacation and 7 hours ahead! This is my 2nd book study with you-have really been looking forward to it!
So far this book has made me really rethink how I teach math. I need to have more time for my students to use the math skills they have in order to figure out new concepts on their own or in a group. I think direct teach is still important, but I see how it does not always need to be at the beginning of the lesson cycle. The students need some time for self discovery.
I'm excited to join. I am loving the book and John SanGiovani is one of my favorite math education people! I loved his Howard County wiki spaces resources when they were publicly available!
Kendra 5th grade teacher from Northeast Ohio. This is my 2nd book study with Mix and Math!
Thank you both-excellent discussion!
love the quote "high expectations for each and every student are prerequisites for productive struggle". Everyone can do hard things!
Loved this discussion and look forward to tonight’s! Can’t wait to try the Math autobiography idea. Might be fun to have them reassess themselves at the end of the year.
I love the idea of letting others share how they solve a math problem in their way. So many times a student that is struggling may see how to solve the problem when someone shares. It is such a wonderful feeling to see a student "get it" and the student sharing feels very accomplished.
I believe this is my first book study, but I am so excited to be a part of this one.
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@@beverlywarren4420 we’re so glad you joined us for this one! 😊
I have just watched this video and found it very interesting and informative. I really like the format of this book study. I am discovering different ways to reach my students!
I like the point of allowing students to solve in the way they understand. I always tell my students ‘you do you’ when it comes to solving the problems.
I already love this book! The "identity activities" are great!
I'm so excited to begin another book study with you Brittany!!
For 22 years, students have written a math autobiography as part of my day one activities. I find all sorts of good information about my students, but I wasn't thinking about "math identity" the way the book does and wasn't using it to intentionally using it to help them build a positive math identity. I love the intentionality of being aware of math identity as part helping students.
I love that reminder that "Math is more than the answers." Most people are solution driven and not focused on understanding.
Third grade teacher in Bedford NH. Behind, but looking forward to catching up!
1st book club...so excited.
This is my first book study. I am a bit behind, but I'm aiming to catch up for the chat tomorrow night.
My ah ha moment is helping students find their math identities. I like the idea of visiting this at the beginning of the year and revisiting it throughout the year as students develop and grow and their math identities change.
This was a great discussion. I agree that math does not get the attention in elementary schools that ELA does. I too would love to be a math PR person.😂
I’m excited to be a part of the book study. First one!!
Brittany, I love that you started with that quote form the forward!! It was the very same part of the forward that jumped out to me and I put in my notes. I feel that's one of the biggest things we, as math educators, battle each year.
Hi! My name is LaNell. I teach 5th grade math, and this is the first Mix and Math sponsored book study that I have joined. One of the main takeaways I got from Chapter 1 was that productive struggle is essential for learning to persevere - to not give up. It is an important life skill.
Hi, I'm from Arkansas. This is my first book study and I am moving from seventh to sixth grade math. I'm excited to be here.
I love this book so far. It is changing the way I see math as a math teacher. I have been so focused on my students getting the right answers so much that I evaluate my success as a math teacher based on EOG scores at the end of the year. My ah ha moment was Math is more than the right answers.
This is my first book study with you. My instructional coach recommended the book to me. I am enjoying it. Thanks so much.
Thanks for a great discussion!! So many great ideas came up and I made so many connections. For the past few years I have told my 4th graders, "Math is Not a Spectator Sport!" with the goal that it will get students to want to participate. I have so many ideas for including math identities in my class community throughout the year so that kids continue to feel safe in their struggle.
Jenn Ericson, first time book study. So excited to be part of this group on productive struggle.
This is my first book study with your group!
Hey there! 3rd grade teacher from California. This is my third book study. Thank you for having another book study. :)
My first book study. I teach at Kingston Elem. in Kingston, Ok.
Hello from Maine! Thank you for hosting the book study. This will be my second time reading the book.
I teach 2nd grade and am so excited to join in on my first book study!! Productive Struggle seems to fit with practices I am already implementing in my classroom!
Hi! Im Tiffany and I teach 4th grade in Delaware! I am loving this book so far and this is my first book study in this group!
1st Book club...excited!!
This is my 3rd book study with you! Thank you for your guidance!
So excited about this book study. This is my second book study with Mix and Math!
This is my first book study with you. Super excited
Hi! I’m Antoniette. This is my first Book Study with Mix & Math.
Hi! This is my first book study! I am so excited!
Third book study…thanks for offering this!
4th grade - North Canton Ohio - first book study
This is my first book study with Mix and Math. I teach 5th grade.
I am loving this book so far!!
This is my 4th book study with mix and math
Third book study for me
Hello from 4th grade! This is my second book study with mix and math!!
Hello! Michelle and I teach 4th grade. I’ve never done one of your book studies. Really enjoying the book!
Thanks for offering…book club 3!
So true about control!
Hello from vacation in Tennessee! I think this is my second book study with this group.
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I teach 4th grade in Illinois.
Math supported less than 1/10 than ELA is so real in a number sense. Great talk thank you for these videos
Hello from Mid-Michigan!
Heather McCloskey Getting jived for this book study and already thinking ahead. What is the likelihood a future book study will cover BTC part 2 or the book referenced tonight Rethinking disability and Mathematics?
My name is Lisa and I teach 5th grade math in Texas
How was the time-lapse effect achieved in this video?
Catherine Curtis instructional coach Michigan. 2nd book stu😊dy!
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First book study
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Joining from the Smoky Mountains
There used to be a Bedtime Math app.
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