Shout at the Devil has always been my favorite Crue album, because it was heavy and raw. I would’ve liked to hear what they would’ve come up with if this guy didn’t turn them “pop”.

@Clarence2Worley

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. When I heard ToP, I was like wtf? I became very disinterested. It's not near as much fun when even your mom and little sister like them.

@FrancisSawyer

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with the OP. With Theatre of Pain however, I don't really think it's an argument about being more pop or being over produced. The issue with TOP was that it sucked plain and simple. The material was complete garbage. A total dumpster fire in terms of the actual songs. I think this was the result of a few different things. Firstly the band was neck deep into excess and extracurricular activities and the focus was not there. Secondly since the label and Werman wanted a more pop friendly direction, Nikki had to adjust his style of songwriting and TOP was that adjustment period. At first Nikki had a very tough time trying to take his writing in a more commercial direction and he didn't quite know what to do. This was painfully evident in what would become Theatre of Pain. The fascinating thing about this period however is how in the world they(Motley Crue) were able to get away with it. This is where clever marketing, MTV and picking the right tracks to make videos for came in. The label knew that the only legitimate single they had was "Home Sweet Home" but they knew very well that they could not release it as the first single/video. It would immediately alienate the hard core fan base. Tom Werman and the label knew that there was nothing on the record worthy of being the first track released on what had become a hugely anticipated release. Sure there were some okay tracks like "Keep Your Eye on the Money", "Raise your Hand to Rock" and "Use it or Lose it" that could be played on AOR and Rock radio but those tracks were ultimately bland, heavily cliched and forgettable. "City Boy Blues" and "Save our Souls" were among with "Home Sweet Home" the best tracks on the album but neither had the right type of vibe to be the lead single on the new Motley Crue album. The solution was having the band record a cover of "Smoking in the Boys Room" by Brownsville Station. With Smoking as the rockin type lead single and video being a bonafied success, the label now felt that the band had the necessary goodwill and momentum to release the ballad "Home Sweet Home" as the second single/video. Home Sweet Home proved to be a smash and helped the Theatre of Pain record go double platinum. Say what you will about Nikki Sixx but the man is no fool and a quick study to be sure. Now having a much better understanding on how to adjust his style of punkish and raw hard rock into a commercially viable behemoth, Sixx and co would start the writing process on what would be their biggest record yet. "Girls Girls Girls" would go triple platinum and beyond with Crue classics like the title track, "Wildside" and "All in the Name of" This would of course be followed by their best selling album of all time "Dr Feelgood" which would go 5× platinum and beyond on the strength of the title track, "Kick start my Heart" and "Without You", catapulting the band into superstardom.

@user-ux1vj9vx7s

2 жыл бұрын

Weird.. Considering the same guy produced both of those albums.

@jamie.777

2 жыл бұрын

This bastard destroyed the record. I refused to buy the tape. After seeing the new horrible look on hit parade and circus and than listening to the lame home sweer home and smoking 🚬 videos. I was a boy and refused to buy it. It hurt me . Lol

@jamie.777

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-ux1vj9vx7s agreed . Thus producer is a egomaniac and doesn't understand what the youth in 80s wanted. We LOVED a raw sound

love theatre of pain, never understood the hate the crue had for the album. I loved city boy blues and tonight we need a lover, those two songs are long forgotten and more than likely never be played again, it's sad.

@passiontwisted

8 жыл бұрын

+charlton mcmillen I feel the same way. I LOVE Theatre of Pain, some of their best songs. The two you mentioned, plus Fight For Your Rights, Louder Than Hell, Save Our Souls, Raise Your Hands To Rock. That record is full of some of their best stuff ever.

@charltonmcmillen7422

8 жыл бұрын

yeh man. When Nikki started bashing theatre of pain back in the corabi days, everyone else started to bash it as well. It like he gave people a pass to say this album sucked bc it wasn't shout at the devil part 2. People wanna talk about what they wore instead of what they're songs were about and how they stand up today. To me, it's much better than girls and nowhere near as poppy as feelgood. In ways, its the last classic album for the crue b4 they took off their make-up.

@passiontwisted

8 жыл бұрын

Agree. I was into the image of course (I was 11 & 13 when Shout & Theatre came out, respectively), but the music was amazing. I didn't like Girls much at all, was very disappointed. They stripped away all the theatrics from their look/image and the songs were just bland IMO. The organ on "Tonight" & "Fight For Your Rights", the acoustic guitar on "Raise Your Hands To Rock", Mick's slide guitar on "City Boy Blues" & "Save Our Souls", hell the piano on "Home Sweet Home". Just great songs with unique twists than made them special. In fact I'd say start-to-finish Pain is probably my favorite album, with Shout a close second.

@charltonmcmillen7422

8 жыл бұрын

yeh,man, mine to. Theatre dealt with so much and the image fit the feel of the album and the title. It was a theatrical show with costumes and great songs. People look at their pic's and hear home sweet home and think that's all there is to this album. They're just sheep that follow the cool thing to piss on. I will always say this is the crue before they went into the more poppy side of rock. The three side of the coin guys are such idiots that lap up each other's ignorance, they all dump on this record but, praise KISS's music from the elder,lol

@HyperInflation2020

6 жыл бұрын

cd mc Nah,,,, it was bashed right when it was released, long before Corabi. Like Tom Werman said, he turned them pop. RUINED !

Mick is a great rhythm player absolutely. He's a great lead player. He's not an atypical 80's cheesedick player

@dgenerated

4 жыл бұрын

Thats due to Micks influences and age. He's a 70's guitarist in an 80's band, so he sounds like no other 80's guitarist!..

@Dookiemcfluffin

3 жыл бұрын

Cheesedick.........

@Dan.50

2 жыл бұрын

@@dgenerated great point!

@tenbroeck1958

2 жыл бұрын

I agree totally. He had more depth. Mick drew from Keith Richards and Jeff Beck, as much as he did from whammy bar and finger tapping from the 80s.

@benjaminbaird9303

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't expect this comment to render this many responses. I'm 51, and honestly, not a huge fan of 80's hair metal. That said, Van Halen, The Crue, Ratt, etc, to my ears were or are rock n roll. LA Guns is the only band that had obvious Crue influence, I loke,.their 1st record is awesome. Rambling on there, sorry. Mick Mars, is exactly what the Crue needed. Nikki has all of those songs on Shout, and Too Fast listing him as lyrics and music. Lyrically, Nikki, was always miles above the pack. However, a single note bass line, with lyrics, doesn't constitute a riff. If you're a musician, you know exactly what I mean. Too Fast, has lots of riffs, that are based on single string, or chromatic bass lines, sounding like a guy writing as he's learning. By Shout, Michael was taking Nikki's vocal melodies, and creating melodic, but still crushing riffs. Too Young, Looks that Kill. My personal favorite if all Motley songs is 10 Seconds, which sounds like Nikki pretty much had the framework in place. Simplistic, but 8ncredibly effective, and such a great hook. Any other cheesedick player, would've have fucked Motley Crue up. Imagine George Lynche playing in the Crue. Every song muted 16ths, on the A string, and some esoteric noodling, that honestly ,to this day, seems, irrelevant to me. EVH like Mick, played riffs, and his technique as a lead player was icing. Tracking Guns, plays like he should've been in the Crye. His style is very strut like, look at me, I'm a bad mother fucker playing, done sloppy enough to sound street, done efficiently enough, you know he's no joke. And to that end, Mick's lead.style is all Mick. I clearly.remember the dudes that qore spandex, dissing him, saying shit like, he plays minor scale bullshit. And me saying, well yeah he does love minor pentatonic scales, but his playing clearly says, think you're better? Step up and let me relocate your head from your shoulders, and place it 8n your hands. But, in the 80's and me included until I was 16 or so. We all thought unless you could play Eruption you sucked. So I learned, Shout, and Too Fast both sides, tuned a full step down, argued with the spandex wearing dudes. And then Slash happened, I was 16, and I sold every piece of shit I owned with a Floyd, and bought 2 Les Paul Studios. And played what I've, 70's style lead guitar, and like Mick does, I started playing for the song. I don't think Keef is a major influences on Mick, Keef plays shuffles, but I'd put $100.00 on Mick Mars liking Mick Taylor, and Ronnie Wood as lead players. As for Jeff Beck, Motley, 8sn't that type.of band. There's some song by Mick, called like Suite 19, or 52, or something, really 50's influenced, like Scott Moore from Elvis's band. It's music, not cock measuring. And with that I submit, all of tye aforementioned bands are all clearly cock rock, they strut, and wreak of young male arrogance, as they should. But the Poisons, Warrants, abd Bon Jovi of that time all suck IMO. Bon Jovi, was never about art, and being something different than everyday people, they were as they are now, a hit factory, with a front man, that has aged gracefully, but always followed trends of the day. Great career move, because, he seems to be able to, easily. Remember Corabie, that record is fucking amazing. But the public didn't want the Crue then. They wanted Toe Jam. Imagine if Andy Wood hadn't died, just how different, the early 90's would've sounded. I love those Seattle bands, exceot Toe Jam. They suck. Butt itch Rock. Like when you have a little doo doo, stuck on your booty. They're that low.

What a great interview! Tom Werman's insight into Motley Crue is probably the best that I've ever heard from someone who worked closely with the band. I like what he said particularly about Mick Mars being an underappreciated guitarist. I've always felt the same way about him. And Motley Crue should be much more appreciative of what Weman did for them. Nikki Sixx's comments were not very nice.

Mitch Lafon, you conduct great, interesting interviews! I'll have to try to listen to more of your interviews.

Fantastic as always.

Subscribed ! Love your work, great content here

Awesome Awesome interview, 3rd time around

I think Tom’s honesty is great and Nikki was a very amateurish bass player whether he wants to admit it or not.

@daveg4236

4 жыл бұрын

James Lichtenberger Nikki is terrible and still is 40 years later

@mtguitar5150

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t he try to audition with London with a guitar?

@maxgoerisch3858

Жыл бұрын

@@mtguitar5150 yes

@hootie297

Жыл бұрын

​@@mtguitar5150 wasn't london was some band in seatle

Shout at the Devil is one of their best. The one they did with Corabi was really good too. Girls, Girls, Girls and Feelgood were fun also.

this is the problem with music being judged and seen in a reward/competitive nature- because i love 'too fast for love' more than any other album. and that's before all this advice and over thinking bs that came afterwards. second i'll take shout at the devil, which was essentially written at the same time for the most part. somehow the best music from artists seems to usually come when they're in their most raw and poorest of times rather than once they're rich and under tons of "special advice" etc. ...at least in my opinion.

@bobowrathsovine.

5 жыл бұрын

due to the fact success is addictive most acts that achieve it go on to sell out more by watering down their product to sell more tickets and records. otherwise they would stay an underground attraction that gets total respect but not much $$$

@ryanstrainer975

5 жыл бұрын

100% agree!

@Clarence2Worley

4 жыл бұрын

Most bands have spent their formative years starving to death and honing their songs that end up on their first album. When you're a millionaire, trying to write tunes while you're out on tour, it just isn't the same. The angst and hunger are gone right about the time you make your first mill.

@nelsonsantiago3426

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. You said it perfectly.

@MrOctober44

Жыл бұрын

Of course. The first few albums is when a band is hungry and they've had plenty of time to develop the songs. As your career goes on you lose the hunger, they start to develop interests outside of music, they start families. Rock and metal should be primal, visceral. The older/and more successful they are it's usually going to yield lesser results

Louder than hell!

Tom, You're a legend in your own mind

SATD was a great Crue album, even if it was the only Crue album where Mick didn't play any slide guitar. It had an overall heavy and moody vibe that worked well for the band. Also, for Tom Werman to take credit for these bands at the pinnacle of their success, well, that's only partly true. Sure, he produced poppy and slick sounds that worked great for FM radio, but the times were changing too, and 80's metal was giving way to the Seattle grunge sound. By the early/mid 90's, it didn't matter who was producing these bands, because radio and MTV wouldn't touch them anymore.

Also had to add that even though I think SATD was a great album, Nikki's bass could've been mixed a bit louder.

@jonlund5545

6 жыл бұрын

6672rock I've heard in several interviews that he wasn't really that good yet, he got better but early he was a better songwriter than a actual bassist

Thank god he didn't make Shout more pop. the reason its my favorite is that its so metal.

It it truly obscene that Motley Crue is not in the R&R Hall of Fame. I mean....really?

@allsystemsgo8678

8 жыл бұрын

It is, but it's such a joke that Im glad they're not in their. No Maiden or Priest either. I hate Kiss, but they should of been in there much quicker then they were. It's run by critics who hate rock and metal.

@w0bbl3r

5 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair, they can't stand next to most of the artists in there, because most of those artists are actual musicians. With Nikki having around 40 years of "experience" playing the bass, he is just as bad now as he was when he thought you could play bass with a six string guitar. He still misses more notes than he hits live, still writes all his songs around open E and A string bass lines, and most amazingly, he still can't play a fucking string on the upstroke. And then we come to Vince. Who was a barely capable vocalist even at the height of their career, when they were all clear and clean and sober in 1988/89. But at least at that time he was a great frontman live. For the last 20+ years (more than half the time they have been together actually) he has just been a big blubbery joke of a drunk, who couldn't learn his lesson from killing someone drink driving and maiming 2 others, and has been done for drink drive a lot of times since then. He staggers around the stage and can barely get through a song without going for a drink of booze. And then there's his actual performance. Which is just horrific at this point. The only one who is truly great at his job in that band, and has been consistently great since day 1, is Tommy Lee. And he's just a joke in other ways, his personal life and who he is (like wanting to be a rapper and so on). Mick is just too fucked up ill now to play properly, and so they rely on more backing tracks than Taylor Swift to support him. And they have to turn Nikki's bass all the way down so he doesn't completely embarrass the band every time they play. Other bands in the hall of fame are actual musicians. Motley aren't. Don't get me wrong, I fucking love classic crue. Love Corabi album crue. Love all the great albums through the 80's, and they were all just great in their own way back then. But none of them were great musicians. Tommy is really good, and was great back then. But he was never Keith Moon level great.

@allsystemsgo8678

5 жыл бұрын

@@w0bbl3r I'm not really sure what their musicianship matters, much less their personal lives in regards to being in the rock and roll hall of fame. We're the Sex Pistols great musicians? At the end of the day, they sold a ton of albums and they were extremely influential. Not sure what other qualifications you need.

@trissloan2340

4 жыл бұрын

TrulySarcastic is correct. What the hell do their personal lives have to do with induction? Did WeebleWobble listen to Tom Berman's audio? Or Paul Stanley's rundown on the Hall of Fame, elsewhere? Hall of Fame is a joke, it's run by corporate types that are not musicians.It is a sham popularity contest. OMG!!!! This person liked the worst album in their catalog, with John Corabi!!!!!!! I have to stop reading ,"Replies." I'd seen somewhere else, a short,fat,bald Canadian old man try to debate Gene Simmons on stage about KISS' success. Gene looks at him and asks, "Who are you?" NOBODIES CRITICIZING SOMEBODIES. Guy saying,. "Oh and he played this chord wrong." DUDE, Look at what they've accomplished, versus what you have. So frustrating and widespread. You see it with people talking about art, politics and history. How many albums did WeebleWobble produce that sold a million units?

@Clarence2Worley

4 жыл бұрын

You could make a legit Hall of Fame with just the bands theyve excluded and it would make more sense in context.

Nikkis bass on 'wild side' superb x

@nameheire9394

Жыл бұрын

at least you get it

Mick Mars is and was very adaptable also. Raise Your Hands to Rock is straight 70s Humble Pie, Zep, Stones, but Nona was space age and interesting technically. Shout was Metal. Girls x 3 was hard rock music, with no Heavy Metal. He drew from a deep reservoir on every album. I like him, because no matter what, I could tell it was Mick, even though the style evolved.

Tommy Lee was always the talent in that band. 3 hours to track a bass line? haha. He's not even playing on the farewell tours. He's air-bassing it to Pro Tools sequences. Believe it!

@daveg4236

4 жыл бұрын

sbrave yeahhhh no. That would be Mick. Tommy plays basic patterns.

@sbrave

4 жыл бұрын

@@daveg4236 And Mick doesn't? Worst guitarist of the 80's. Wait, CC was the worst, haha

@daveg4236

4 жыл бұрын

@@sbrave you can think what you want.

@mtguitar5150

3 жыл бұрын

@@sbrave totally out of your mind Mick was a solid player up until his physical condition didn’t allow it

@ellamcclanahan9811

2 жыл бұрын

Mick was the talent

Feelgood had the best guitar tone. Primal Scream has the drum tone i wish i could hear on every song.

Other than the Title track and Wildside , Girls Girls Girls as an album was pretty crappy Theatre of Pain was much Darker and Heavier. I've kinda liked some singles here and there after Theatre, but album wise, their first 3 is it for me Their first(electra version) is their best IMO

@dgenerated

4 жыл бұрын

I feel just the opposite and love Girls!. To each their own..

@markherring3513

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the chorus in Girls Girls Girls....really, im not a fan of the song at all other than its theme and video.

Dr. Feelgood Produced by Bob Rock, MC's only #1 album, garnered two nominations each for a Grammy and an AMA(won 1991) and is also their best selling album being certified 6x platinum in the US and 3x platinum in Canada. Girls, Girls, Girls Produced by Tom Werman peaked at #2, garnered zero nominations for either a Grammy or an AMA. it is tied for their second best selling album in the US @ 4x platinum along with two other albums also produced by Mr. Werman; Shout at the Devil (BillBoardPeak#17) and Theatre of Pain(BBP#6); but only 3x platinum in Canada where SotD and ToP went 3x Platinum.

@raynepromotions

8 жыл бұрын

+Dejoblue And Girls Girls Girls would have went to #1 if Whitney Houston's album didn't come out that week that it did. She sold the most albums for the week, BUT Crue sold more over all, or something like that Nikki said, I think it was in an interview somewhere on here.So if Whitney's album would have come out a week LATER then GIrls would have went to #1, cuz it was on it's way there, according to Nikki. He says that when your album is heading towards #1, you start to pay attention.......

@allsystemsgo8678

8 жыл бұрын

Im not sure why a grammy nomination is important.

@Dejoblue

8 жыл бұрын

If he wants to talk shit about how awesome he is then he should either be more informed or more diplomatic.

@JokersWild70

7 жыл бұрын

First of all, IMO, the Grammy's are almost as much as a fucking joke as that shitty Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. Second, look at what Motley did with Bob Rock on the album they did with Corabi. They blamed him for it failing! So was Bob great, or was he shit? Same with Metallica. He did the Black album, "Load" and "Reload", which were all very good, but "St. Anger" sucked shit. Again, that's my opinion. I think that if the Motley album with Corabi had been called something else besides "Motley Crue", maybe it would have done better.

@allsystemsgo8678

7 жыл бұрын

I doubt it. It came out in 94, no one could sell a record unless they were grunge/alternative. It went gold simply on the strength of the fanbase they had left after Vince was fired.

One-note Frank in London. 😎

The best songs on this album never received radio play. It also seems to lack bass.

Dr feelgood was their best selling record but far from the best.

@jonlund5545

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Marchant but it's definitely their best sounding

@FreeMTrider

4 жыл бұрын

I would say Mick played his best on that album. His guitar stood out big time. Even he has said this.

@mattleone5831

3 жыл бұрын

I remember buying the cd in college after loving the title track. Hated the rest, returned it!

@karlsalocks

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreeMTrider Mick's best playing was really on the Decade of Decadence album. That huge, warm Soldano tone, etc

Actually he's dead wrong with Motley Crue, regarding the "record following the last one I worked on was always a failure" comment" . Dr. Feelgood was their biggest success by far, and that was Bob Rock. So I don't understand the comment by Werman there.

@downincognito72

8 жыл бұрын

+Shane Adams did you listen to the whole thing?, he corrected himself

@passiontwisted

8 жыл бұрын

Obviously, I did not. it's a wonder I got as far as I did.

@likelystorybandnj

4 жыл бұрын

Poison also did quite well with Bruce Fairbairn on Flesh & Blood...it may not have sold quite as many copies but was still huge and way better sounding than Open Up

Tom werman is indecisive

Crue were on top of the world with Bob Rock.

This is nearly word for word what time said to full in bloom the man doesn't bullshit at all.

No band with less talent ever had more success than the Crue

@mikepellegrini3379

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I'm a CRUEHEAD but I always said it was the attitude, looks & drug use that made them who they were. Musically very simple stuff compared to Maiden, Priest and Metallica.

@FreeMTrider

3 жыл бұрын

Yep....but man did they have attitude. They didn’t back down

@sashasash9940

2 жыл бұрын

By the way its not all about talent . Many talented singers /band doesnt get a chance. Its about beeing unique too . Many ppl seem to be jelous of Mötleys sucess ...just saying . They also managed to get a new generation of fans . Yll just envious . Nikkis songwriting is very good,Vince voice matched the song perfectly .Tommy is badass drummer and mick is very talanted guitarist . Go do what they did and see thst many records/books/movie then come back and talk .

@jelkel25

2 жыл бұрын

I saw GnR after Appetite came out but still wasn't going anywhere. Faster Pussycat were on the bill and blew them out of the water, GnR were pretty sketchy, I'm surprised they went any further. I saw Poison around first album time and they were pretty sketchy too but did improve as time went on. I tell you who were a spectacular band and should have been bigger than GnR, Poison and Crue, Hanoi Rocks.

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

@@jelkel25 I found some Hanoi Rocks tapes at a yard sale, remembered Axl Rose talking em up when I was a kid so I grabbed em. Damn. You are most likely right on the money, what an asskicking band! Was it losing Razzle that stopped their rise to the top? I'm glad I found those tapes.

Cure is a brilliant,important band , a generation of copy cats followed. Shout at the devil is hard metal , perfect for the time, .perfect for now. If shout came out today it be all over internet, fresh raw ..

SATD was Great ,then one here ,two there, then !!

TFFL is the best 🖤

Mötley's best record - sound and music is the self titled album.

@daveg4236

4 жыл бұрын

Jose Alberto De Leon, Jr. Funny how Mick has said that was their demo they would send out

@rodreeves9174

4 жыл бұрын

What self titled album 🤔

@daveg4236

4 жыл бұрын

Rod Reeves you know it. The one called Too Fast for Love

@joeyd159

4 жыл бұрын

@@rodreeves9174 In 1994 Motley Crue recorded an album without Vince. The vocalist for that album was John Corabi. That is the best Motley Crue album. They never played like that ever again.

@jeffmcpeek2526

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it is

Too Fast for Love is their best album. When they weren't "accomplished".

I hated the Girls, Girls, Girls sound. Theatre and Shout were heavy!!!!

MHi full in bloom U make the best videos! I am kind of confused I have severe ADD . How do u get all these amazing producers to explain their workflow? I also went to your website I couldn’t figure out how to hear the full interviews If anyone of your fans can explain, I would be so happy So I am personal friend with Ernie c from body count Also, my sister is publisher for rap artists DJ khaled and Travis Scott I must say that I kind of don’t like rap I am a metal head I am learning so much I took a lot of protools and logic classes Thanks for this amazing video I have ADD U got to make more videos U did a great job Videos like this make hours to make God bless Danny words and guitars borderline delusion band. I hope everyone is safe from the corona virus.? We need to fight this Me and my musician and producer friend have been collaborating on zoom I play guitar and jam with our fans from all over the world I need to fight this depression Otherwise, I drive my girlfriend crazy.. I also write music for tv . Please join and subscribe to my band KZread so u guys can join me on live steams.. We are trying to raise awareness for suicide prevention . Music is a great way to get out of depression Can we join forces in making zoom sessions and start jamming and writing? I am lucky been lucky to have amazing friends help our cause Durga mc broom of Pink Floyd Derf scratch bass player of Fear Musicares.org Danny Borderline delusion band Words and guitars Borderlinedelusion@gmail. Com God bless Metal kzread.info/head/PLCcl41EK_yI1kc14xN6OEfIUacHmCNpPk Pop ( I don’t like pop but it pays the bills) kzread.info/head/PLtj_90xCmJuxo6RJTex4Tg_JuhlnZtvrE

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

All music is good if it can touch the soul. I am a metal head as well, and at least for a few years in the 80's they had me labeled ADHD, lol. The Ritalin train is leaving the station. Good luck with you're musical adventure, I wish you the best, throw a little Crue in that soup if you will.

If Nikki had only sticked to alcohol and weed and occasional acid and whatever, I wonder what kind of records he would've wrote in his 20s...

In all fairness, Dr. Feelgood was their biggest selling album with out tom but had Bob Rock and was downhill from there.

"Louder than Hell" "Knock 'em Dead Kid" "Danger".............songs that never made the top 40 and we don't care. Brilliant. "Shout" was my favorite album. I lost a lot of respect for them with "Smokin' in the Boys Room".............what a mistake.....

@jackaction7077

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. My favorite Crue songs were the ones that never got radio play

@scottlosey4978

2 жыл бұрын

I f#$king hate Smokin in the Boys Room especially coming off Shout which I have always maintained was a "heavy" metal album. But, that song received a ton of MTV play along with Home Sweet Home......a song that I have always liked (contrary to the opinions of most).

At 13 years and just discovered the Crue with Shout,,,(Too Fast for Love) was not available yet maybe in import but it become available in music store in Canada at same time Theatre came out. So Theatre just for the pink colour was a total shock,they tried to become glam to attract the females at their concert. Sixx is a liar for saying we just did it for whatever else,,, It has half great song and half fillers for a band that stature. Their fillers would be hits for Warrant,Poison ect not for them.

Yeah Theatre of pain was basically my First Metal album! It was their new album when I got it. Then I got Shout I like them both a lot all of the songs every one. Then Too Fast had to grow on me and I really like that one too. Girls Girls Girls was Good Then Dr. FeelGood was "poppy" I loved Theatre if I ever meet MOtley I would tell them Theatre of Pain is what broke you out! Don't really understand why you dont like it?' the singles were over played and all the other songs were Great Tooo! Save our souls, RAise your hands to Rock, City boy blues They all Rocked! It was the attitude! NIkki wanted to make it to the top so bad... Fuck Yeah it was the best album. Theatre of Pain. t

@FreeMTrider

4 жыл бұрын

Terrible, weak, thin sounding album. They didn't and still don't rock. Shout does.

@GARY84ROCKS

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreeMTrider you're wrong... GGG is the thin sounding album. Theater is their most underrated.

@FreeMTrider

3 жыл бұрын

@@GARY84ROCKS even the band said it's a weak album and sucked. I remember when it came out and my friend played it for a group of us. It was too soft then and is now. The songs are goofy enough, but the sound is just weak. The only thing that saved it was Home Sweet Home.

@GARY84ROCKS

3 жыл бұрын

@@FreeMTrider No offense, but anyone that considers the band's opinion "special" is warped out of the gate.

@FreeMTrider

3 жыл бұрын

@@GARY84ROCKS bands will always be the worst critics. C’mon. It’s not rocket science. I’m a structural engineer and designer, but also a pretty good artist in pen and ink. I know when it’s good, but definitely when it’s bad. The gray area is up to opinion. The problem is people get emotionally attached to a time in their life that made an impact. I listen to those songs now and it’s like the only effort they made was on Home Sweet Home. The rest are forgetful. I’m betting the majority of Crue fans can name more songs from Shout and less than a few from Theatre. It’s just weak. .

Too Fast For Love was sloppy, or was it raw and had a punk edge to it?? This dude is talking outta his ass

CRUE were lightening in a bottle.

Shout and Theater sounded the best to me. Down hill from there in my opinion. Too polished.

The 94 MC album is their best overall release in my opinion. Been a Crue fan since 82.

@scottlosey4978

2 жыл бұрын

Generation Swine?

@re8746

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottlosey4978 Afraid, Find Myself and Rocketship are my faves off that album.

Theatre of pain is the best!

Their best guitar sound was on Girls Girls Girls???? Absolutely not! It was wimpy and not heavy at all. Best guitar sond IMO Was Too Fast for Love.

@monsignorotarpaigh9297

2 жыл бұрын

Guitar tone on GGG is dog crap. It's so tinny and sounds like it was recorded on a practice amp.

The sloppiness of too fast for love is what makes it such an iconic 1st album, in my mind anyway.. I'd say motley isn't in the hall of fame mostly cause of their image and the things that they had done.. Look at how long it took kiss to get in and besides the people running the hall of fame have no taste anyway, no knowledge of most of these bands and what they had done for that particular genre of music..

Too fast for love was genius raw fun glam punk. Great album. Next one was cool too. Then after that. Total no thanks. Wasnt into it. Theatre of pain came out when I was 16 and it was the bummer release from a great band

Mitch I love the interviews but you tend to interrupt them as they are answering. Saying “right” after each sentence is annoying.

For me Theatre of pain with a huge disappointment. after the heavy sound of Shout at the devil, I was really expecting something great. Instead I felt like someone turned them into New Edition. Theatre of Pain turned Motley Crue into a top 40 band and I think that's exactly what Warner and the record company wanted.

@Clarence2Worley

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it sucked ass.

I don't know if I have ever heard this level of 80's record label guy douchbaggery before. He's like a living, breathing stereotype.

@downincognito72

8 жыл бұрын

+daggergblue Hes correct , he did it, hes allowed to own it , its not bragging if u back it up?

@daggergblue

8 жыл бұрын

Where did I say anything about bragging?

@allsystemsgo8678

5 жыл бұрын

@@daggergblue LOL 😂

The sound quality and production on the first few Motley Crue albums just totally sucks. Especially Theatre of Pain! If you listen to them and turn them up, they sound really washed out and unclear. I don't think this bag did them justice in the studio.

Too Fast For Love is without a doubt their best album. After Shout At The Devil, things just kept going downhill.

@Guido.Fawkes.1

9 ай бұрын

Bahahaha 😂

If you watch Motley at US Festival 1983 you will die laughing at just how bad they actually were lol

@twikirobot6897

4 жыл бұрын

whatever....that's when they were great!

Geez, You’d think Tom wrote, played and produced the whole album. WHAT A TOOL !!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

@daveg4236

2 жыл бұрын

Guess you don't realize how valuable a producer is. If they don't make an album that sells, then they aren't hireable. Especially MC. Other than Mick....pretty shitty musicians

around 13:50sih TOm Talks about how bands falter and become nobodys after he is no longer their producer and the the interviewer here said yeah with Cheap Trick yeah but with motley ,they had Dr Feelgood which sold more than all of their albums put together.... and Tom then realized that his head was up his ass so far that he wasn't in this reality.

Werman is sour that he never got a #1 album with Crue!! He sounds fkn bitter! .... Tom was a huge part of Motley getting bigger but the Crue never disappeared after Tom Werman stopped producing them like he says !! THE ONLY GOT BIGGER

@tonywolfe918

6 жыл бұрын

Tommy S to be honest with you girls girls girls was really was number 1

This entire album sucked. The first two were great, but this was the result of extreme drug use, and a band that was no longer hungry. Sad and weak.

This was painful to listen to.

Their only ”good” record⚠️

This cat comes off all wrongg

Crue sux

@tonywolfe918

6 жыл бұрын

Danny Burch you suck too

@josephtorres1406

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Dany pissed that crue got more girl than he