Imagine being a designer and thinking you know more about medicine than a doctor...

@cosminturtureanu692

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@brownerjerry174

4 жыл бұрын

@Euphoric Vision01 oh god don't start it here,you will give away the secrets,damn,go back to the grave,NOW,,,😂😂😂

@davidg8628

4 жыл бұрын

@Euphoric Vision01 lol

@AlexanderMarchesaine

4 жыл бұрын

@Grace Elizabeth L Girl, your parents may know the OUTSIDE of your body and behavior, but the doctors know the INSIDES of a person. Doctors dont spend their 20s in medical school for nothing...

@CodyMechanix

4 жыл бұрын

Grace Elizabeth L nice troll.

Why didn’t they get adults who weren’t vaccinated.... oh wait

@ryenye9012

4 жыл бұрын

Ngilenko342 😂I see what you just did

@soilderisahealslut6614

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@CptCage

4 жыл бұрын

Ngilenko342 lmao

@otto7848

4 жыл бұрын

👌👏😂

@arizenstudio1729

4 жыл бұрын

This deserves more likes😂😂😂😂

Thank you Karen. You managed to tick all the boxes - No medical degree? Check - Talk over someone when they’re trying to make a point? Check - Using a specific situation to prove your point? Check

@EclecticallyEccentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@theappleciderresistance4925 A pediatrician who also stated that he tries his best to ease parents' worries and explain vaccines to them. He's not against vaccines.

@phillychannel394

2 жыл бұрын

The Inventor of mRNA knows it does. The inventor of RT-PCR test knows what's its real purpose is.

@goodtoknow3768

2 жыл бұрын

Mothers know.

@simoeannrose5066

2 жыл бұрын

On the intern u can always find someone that agrees with u, always fact check n don’t just look for the answer u want.

@afarensis9720

Жыл бұрын

That third point is so common with anti-vaxxers. They always pull out vague anecdotes or unconfirmed stories to push their arguments

"It's hard to trust someone that sees your child for 10 minutes, twice a year..." this phrase is neglects to mention that that same person is seeing hundreds if not thousands of other children on regular occasions, has studied numerous years to get a medical Doctorate to specialize in dealing with children and has experience dealing with ailments related to children.

@therapyandfolklore

2 жыл бұрын

ALSO its better when a doctor does not have a personal connection with a patient, so they can make unbiased decisions, without letting personal connection get in the way and cloud their judgment

@BastianPenalozaOsorio

16 күн бұрын

My eyes rolled so hard when she said that.

I'm anti-seatbelt because I can still die or be injured in a car accident.

@hovgeg8706

5 жыл бұрын

My daughter broke her arm in a car crash while she was wearing her seatbelt, therefore nobody should wear seatbelts: basically bangs lady's argument

@louiehollando7717

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@TinnyChai

5 жыл бұрын

The seatbelt killed my mum in a car accident but I won’t disagree the function of the seatbelt.

@fetchstixRHD

5 жыл бұрын

Basically 4:05 in a nutshell.

@paiges6962

5 жыл бұрын

Oh my god someone should have said that

I'm anti-eating because there's a chance I can get food poisoning, and me no like tummy ache.

@SGT676

4 жыл бұрын

I read the last part in Cookie monster's voice

@chelseaxoxo784

4 жыл бұрын

I'm anti breathing cause I might one day breathe in dangerous chemicals. So no thanks

@deseuryderia

4 жыл бұрын

one time i got food poisoning from a restaurant so im anti restaurant

@retrothecake

4 жыл бұрын

A really that's a good point. Too much of a risk

@aistelaimeskrebyte2195

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually anti-living, because research done by harvard university shows that there are always chances of dying.

"parents know their children best" Fun fact: Friends mostly know your child better than you

@naina4288

3 жыл бұрын

agreed

@teacup3064

3 жыл бұрын

She is talking about children under 13 not teenagers

@kholozondi9904

3 жыл бұрын

@@teacup3064 you'd still be surprised how little parents know their children. People assume that because they have control over someone that they know them best. History is filled with examples of why this is a lie _cough cough mass shooter parents_

@biggestboofer

3 жыл бұрын

I read that wrong at first, i was thinking friends of the parents and i was Very confused

@notnotanoob2450

3 жыл бұрын

As an adolesant, I can confirm this is true as I don't share my love life with my parents but only my friends. Because I feel it as akward.

Once I choked on pizza, that's how I know nobody should eat pizza.

@steel2bravoc554

3 жыл бұрын

If you do that, the Italians might invade

@steel2bravoc554

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIII...... Are governments forcing vaccines on us?

@mori8706

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIII...... yes they are putting gasoline in vackzine 🤯these gordrnarm governmentn have ben spyingg on us!!

@floriandanna2534

2 жыл бұрын

This happened to me with Water. Now I only drink Soft drinks! :-D

@roroliaoliao

2 жыл бұрын

@@mori8706 talking with a troll and take his word seriously? Wow.....

"Everyone who has had a vaccine step forward" *everyone steps forward*

@juanmarailgun7783

5 жыл бұрын

Well, you need to become an adult to be an anti vaxxer, if you know what I mean-

@justinfay3011

5 жыл бұрын

"everyone who was not vaccinated, step forward" *dead people crawl out of grave and come sit down*

@drcoconut935

5 жыл бұрын

Justin Fay lol wtf

@marygrace2981

5 жыл бұрын

Justin Fay ahahaha

@DaddyAZTL

5 жыл бұрын

Because the parent made the decision. A child has no real choice .

There’s a saying “winning an argument against a smart person is hard, but winning an argument against an ignorant person is impossible”

@preddix4439

4 жыл бұрын

88 Keys wow, I’m gunna quote that very time I argue with my sister

@byel2844

4 жыл бұрын

@BlooCaos r/imverysmart

@pamelarealpes

4 жыл бұрын

BlooCaos you didn’t understand the saying at all

@lolagrobler9081

4 жыл бұрын

BlooCaos i’m not gonna argue with you because “ you can’t reason with someone who is unreasonable” aka you.

@acxesta2

4 жыл бұрын

It's because they never THINK that they lost the arguement

avoiding all vaccines because you had a bad reaction... is like avoiding all fruit because you ended up being allergic to apples...

@nicolprofittkh

3 жыл бұрын

That person has that right. Are you going to be that insensitive to someone who literally almost died because they took a vaccine? I know a woman whose son died from an adverse reaction to a vaccine and she refuses to vaccinate her 2 other children with that same vaccine. Are you really going to judge someone like her so harshly. We have to get to the point where we have empathy for people who are genuinely scare because they have experienced an allergic reaction or know someone who has. There views are still valid even though you don't agree

@EclecticallyEccentric

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolprofittkh Someone does have that right. Just like both government funded schools and hospitals, as well as private ones, have the right to refuse services to someone who isn't vaccinated. I do judge someone for letting their fear rule over what science supports is best for their child.

@erowo8767

2 жыл бұрын

@@EclecticallyEccentric i feel like that isn't right, if someone has been adversely affected by vaccines, and i don't mean mild allergies, like people who have ended up with debilitating life long problems, i believe the fear is valid, no one wants to run back into something that almost killed them. I believe this should be recognised more.

@Nobody-kh2nm

2 жыл бұрын

I once had a light allergic reaction to sunscreen, threw up after eating rice and slipped in the shower, causing me to fall and bruise myself slightly. Therefore, against the hundreds of specialists and professionals who have poured hours into research on skin cancer, I propose that we ban all sunscreen internationally, even sunscreen from different brands that had nothing to do with my mild rash. I also suggest that, despite rice being one of the most important crops in the world and sustaining many people in poverty, we ban rice across the globe as someone may choke on it and die. My final suggestion is that we ban showers despite hygiene having been a key factor in many pandemics throughout history, as slipping and falling is extremely dangerous even though millions of people take showers daily without dying.

@yellowgecko2772

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nobody-kh2nm you said a light reaction….we aren’t talking about that here. People are entitled to their own opinions. If I had a near death experience with a vaccine, I would be extremely wary to take them again. It’s not really that hard to think. If someone almost drowned in a pool as a child and now they have a fear of large bodies of water, that doesn’t mean they don’t believe others shouldn’t be in pools, that’s their experience and a valid fear.

You go to your doctor for medical advice. Girl with bangs- "I know my child best" Doctor "Well here's the scalpel, good luck with your daughter's appendicitis"

@locus831

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! Then why go to the doctor's? Just treat you child by yourself. If you think you know everything be capable of doing your own operations.

@afarensis9720

Жыл бұрын

All the Karens are like "I know my child best, I don't trust doctors" until their child gets appendicitis or a fracture, and then they drop their healing crystals and their essential oils and go running to the hospital for help. And the worst part is after the medical professionals help their child, they'll go back to their ignorant ways and nothing will change

@noellesherman4824

Жыл бұрын

Well, if you cannot use your intelligence to DISCERN between those areas that you are capable of researching and understanding and those you are not - if you would rather be a passive believer, so be it. But you suck as a parent.

@aroach7461

9 ай бұрын

What happens when the mother is a doctor herself and does the surgery perfectly?

@snickims9717

7 ай бұрын

@@aroach7461 They get the vaccine.

Regarding Melissa, she said there's a medical reason that her daughter cannot receive vaccines herself, and therefore must rely on herd immunity, because she's suffered from reactions to them. So how can she be anti-vax when her daughter relies on others being vaccinated? I can understand if she was just against vaccinating her own child, but to label yourself as totally against vaccinations altogether is ignorant.

@melissasuzanne801

5 жыл бұрын

soyjaimie I don’t label myself as Anti-vaccine, I am anti-mandates though.

@jasmineskyy4964

5 жыл бұрын

Melissa Suzanne herd immunity relies on vaccinations

@emmie9469

5 жыл бұрын

As someone who has a condition in which prevents me from having certain vaccines, I am all for them, because as well as protecting our children and other kids from these diseases, we also need to protect others who can’t have certain vaccines for health reasons. It’s not fair that we should have to suffer at the hands of others

@meeldowns41682

5 жыл бұрын

Emmie especially when you could get a disease from someone who uses personal belief as a reason to not get vaccinated or vaccinate their children rather than true medical facts and statistics.

@susielandis1599

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking they should ask if the people who are against vaccines if they want everyone to not get vaccines, otherwise what are you fighting for? To be heard? I think doctors understands the risks.

I’m anti life because I can die during life, and that’s too risky.

@RainbowQuartz2.0

4 жыл бұрын

genius play

@kiritagalpw872

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Maxwell wow ur genious

@MemoryPhobia

4 жыл бұрын

This is an epic gamer moment

@syd_1876

4 жыл бұрын

Genius

@gabirmol

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao 😂

When I was 13, I choked on food. I stopped eating as I didn’t want to increase my risk of choking again. Join me and stop eating, don’t feed your children either, as they might choke aswell.

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

I was in a room and someone farted and the room stank. Thus I will simply hold my breath forever more lest I happen to bump into more people farting because I read a post on Fakebook from a friend of a friend of a friend that inhaling farts can alter my DNA. lol!

@PineappleSquuid

2 жыл бұрын

This man’s a genius!

@maisoncastro

Жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 Bruh I'm dying

so basically, if a bridge was 96.80%, you would prefer to swim with the 3.20%

@charlie8508

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIII...... i cant tell if that’s sarcasm or not however that’s my logic on the case. both my parents are doctors so i’m quite educated and lucky when it comes to learning about this kinda stuff

@chubnut3671

2 жыл бұрын

@@IIII...... i’m chained up in my room because of you anti vaxxers. got covid from my friend who is unvaaxxed and currently in the hospital. would be in there like him if i didn’t have my vacccine

@nrlstatistics4898

2 жыл бұрын

You *SERIOUSLY* couldn’t improve the 3.20 by 1?

@imdumbbut8915

2 жыл бұрын

@@nrlstatistics4898 ???

The girl with bangs has not thought through the implications of anti-vax when it comes for her daughter. If she has a reaction and cannot get vaccinated her only protection is herd immunity. It would be better for her daughter that everyone is vaccinated, and I don’t think she understands that.

@ConfuciusJr

5 жыл бұрын

Lone Wolf yes thats what she says but the way she answers some if the questions is troubling. For example she does not come forward with “not getting vaccinated endangers other people” this is evidence to my original point of her not fully realizing the implications of anti-vax. Her daughter is at the highest risk of endangerment being medically unable to be vaccinated. Herd immunity is the the only defense of her daughter and she seems to be fine with people not being vaccinated without there being a medical reason.

@nikibronson133

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@adinrud4829

5 жыл бұрын

It shouldn't be a choice tho don't get vaccsinates. Safe dont go to school and risk the health of others. That's your choice and it seems pretty fair to me

@sabr2211

5 жыл бұрын

I wish she saw this

@BarbraCherry_

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same...

hmmm... Anti-vax pediatrician Bob is Bob Sears and he's currently on a 35-month probation with the medical board because his anti-vaccine advice hurt a patient. Somehow I get the feeling making this video violates the sanctions against his license... hmmmmm....

@blilloo8410

5 жыл бұрын

that's very interesting

@zozipozi

5 жыл бұрын

Oh holy crap.....

@hrhux

5 жыл бұрын

Don't forget he was selling vaccine exemption forms online for a personal profit without ever seeing his patients!

@thegolem9325

5 жыл бұрын

@@hrhux He is the epitome of a scumbag. There aren't enough bad things that can happen to him.

@zoltyx2423

5 жыл бұрын

Wow I'm not sure if I should be made at him or the video makers because he should not be talking

Bruh just imagine explaining medical stuff to a doctor that spent years studying that same medical stuff, and an extra decade+ of an experience

@Janen0528

3 жыл бұрын

KIRYU-SAN!

@riteshsawali264

Жыл бұрын

Those anti vaxxers cannot even pronounce the name of drugs.

@caseyguilfoyle4580

6 ай бұрын

I cant imagine how insulted he must have felt to be told misinformed about his own disciple by a woman who hasn’t even spent a quarter of the time studying it.

It’s like “Hey I know it’s your job to be a Doctor and you’ve received an education, but I drink kombucha and read Reddit posts so I’m obviously much more knowledgeable than you”

The anti vaxer marissa was so quick to dismiss the pro vaccine doctor with his facts and when the other anti vax mom was saying how “pro vaxers need more compassion and they’re so quick to put you down” like c’mon y’all literally spent the whole time just trying to dismiss them with your own research and you’re the one saying they need more compassion? I think they came in ready for a fight

"I've had death threats on social media." From what? Polio? Measles?

@aliciadieguezgalaz93

4 жыл бұрын

💀💀💀

@illwearyourrainbowhat7827

4 жыл бұрын

i CHOKED

@pinkrainclouds2190

4 жыл бұрын

I wish someone there had said this.

@y2k863

4 жыл бұрын

LMFAOOO

@dayleo

4 жыл бұрын

Not funny

David is amazing, he dealt with the situation so well and he had such patience for the other side and kept his cool.

If Middle Ground has taught me anything, it’s that empathy and understanding is important. Even if you have concrete certainty that you’re right, understanding and treating the other side as human beings is vital, especially if you want to convince them of anything.

@SinHurr

2 жыл бұрын

Beat them with a stick full of vaccines.

@multivitamin425

Жыл бұрын

But you can't because anti-vaxers don't want to be *treated* XD

@aroach7461

9 ай бұрын

Except for when they disagree with you. Then you have to fire them from their jobs, attack them in public, wish them death, make death threats to them and dehumanize them then pass laws to put them into prison. Very compassionate wouldn't you say?

@hellod4036

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@aroach7461What point are you even trying to make?

@aroach7461

3 ай бұрын

@@hellod4036 5 years since this all started. But you forgot? You don't remember when doctors, nurses and people who worked hard, lost their jobs and livelihood over sharing their own thoughts? Their was no middle ground for those people and it was already too late. And 5 years since nobody has come forth to admit they were wrong.

Some kids are allergic to peanuts, and can be deadly to them. Does that mean peanuts are the devil and no one else should eat them? No.

@nowGo4ward

5 жыл бұрын

But to avoid an epidemic of allergies to peanuts we need to avoid injecting proteins from them and avoid injection of anything that mimics their proteins and probably also need to avoid compromising their gut lining integrity when they or their breast-feeding mothers are eating them.

@rynfornow3411

5 жыл бұрын

nowGo4ward I’m just making an analogy here... I’m saying that peanuts aren’t evil just because some are allergic to them, same as vaccines (I know peanuts aren’t #1 healthiest food or Everyone should eat peanuts or whatever, I’m just saying that a hyper-rare case of a good product creating a negative side effect on a child does not make the product evil, it’s just not good for that specific individual child).

@djkdmddkekwjwn2061

5 жыл бұрын

next vid: Pro-Peanuter vs Anti-Peanuter : Should You Buy Peanuts?

@eax2010EA

5 жыл бұрын

But it means you should be caution to them to some extent.

My favorite part of this is "just because you don't have the 'Dr.' in front of your name it doesn't make your opinion less valuable".. Yeah concerning medical advice it does

@SouthernSara23

5 жыл бұрын

Lauren Guilmeyer my thoughts exactly! Your opinion is not valuable medical advice if you aren’t a trained medical professor.

@Carlmdb

5 жыл бұрын

But..but she knows her kids better than the Dr. SMH.

@sam3488

5 жыл бұрын

Carlmdb she knows her kids personally but she doesn’t know ANYTHING medically. Compared to him.

@Carlmdb

5 жыл бұрын

I know. I was taking the piss.

@center12

5 жыл бұрын

I'm a medical student with an engineering degree. I told a friend of mine, who happens to be a firefighter... "Look, debating me about science with no backing is like me debating you about how you should fight a fire."

"The first question is...I am vaccinated." *they all walk up* me: LAUGHING INCREASED

@lindstheteacher1611

3 жыл бұрын

It’s before Covid.

@Ichigoyeager.exe1

2 жыл бұрын

Delta: say whatt?

@liara276

2 жыл бұрын

how was that funny?

@magicmantis

2 жыл бұрын

Most vaccines happen as children, so what choice did they have until they became adults?

it was interesting to see the pediatrician who is also anti-vax and see his perspective on this. they all seemed so respectful to each other in this one and that was really nice.

When I was 6 I scraped my knee while walking so I've decided walking is bad now I levitate everywhere.

@randomdude1967

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@godmodevegeta1216

4 жыл бұрын

A bird hit me while levitating. I teleport now

@SovietBear4

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@RighteousPretzel

3 жыл бұрын

Subtext Equals Subtext car hit me while teleporting, I now can phase through matter

@randomdude1967

3 жыл бұрын

@@RighteousPretzel Lmao

OK BUT ARTHRITIS IN A HAND VERSUS ALL YOUR LIMBS BEING CHOPPED OFF???????

@adityamathur6938

3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to comment on this post because it has too many likes to not have any comments --_--

I love how anti vaxxers was all about "Me", "my kids" and the pro vaxxers were all about "us", "them"

@afarensis9720

Жыл бұрын

I've seen that a lot in these kinds of videos. Anti-vaxxers tend to fixate on themselves, whereas pro-vaxxers are compassionate and thinking of their community

@thorny3218

Жыл бұрын

🐑

@stellagrey1465

Жыл бұрын

@@afarensis9720 why wouldn’t you put yourself and your own family first?

@afarensis9720

Жыл бұрын

@@stellagrey1465 your family goes under community too. Also it's not some black and white choice, putting yourself first doesn't mean you have to neglect everyone around you. Not to mention vaccines really don't pose a direct threat to you at all so this whole "putting yourself first" argument doesn't even apply here

@DIVINEGODDESS_122

Жыл бұрын

🐑 🐑🐑

tell a doctor who’s been studying medicine for years that he’s wrong…what a joke 😭

@rantingmoron84

4 ай бұрын

So you don't question authority

@stefanpennekan2347

Ай бұрын

You need to live your life and not let others live it for you.... get different options other wise one guy will tell you ohh you have HIV and now you believe it

You could see the frustration in the doctors faces lmao

@jordy46682

5 жыл бұрын

One of the anti-vaxxers is a doctor so yes I saw the frustration. Also, incredible how the extremely pro vaccine doctor describes his daughters issues which are proven (included in the vaccine side effects inserts) to be caused by vaccines...

@bryancastaneda_

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Cox bet the daughter lives longer than those that aren’t vaccinated... know the pros over the cons

@RomanReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Bryan Castaneda Well antivaxxers don't have a lower chance of living in the US mainly because most of the population is vaccinated and the disease is mostly dead alrdy. Except for the tetnus types which are a different vaccine anyways.

@BlockedUser1

5 жыл бұрын

yeah

@placidsims3091

5 жыл бұрын

QR Studio you just basically proved vaccines good. The only reason anti Vaxxers are living long lives is because the people who do take vaccines protect from spreading the illnesses.

those doctors didn't go through 10+ years of school to have someone who makes clothes tell them about 50% of their course material. Girl, they know it's safe-ish better than having your child dead-ish.

@yasveck

5 жыл бұрын

winta k thank you!

@jerriroseleaand8372

5 жыл бұрын

Less than 50%

@v6790

5 жыл бұрын

Well at least it's not just dead

@truthtrekker

5 жыл бұрын

winta K *Death is the enemy of the human race. Death is eternity inside of the Sun. You mean to tell me you know everything about death except what death is, which is the Sun???*

@slamzam

5 жыл бұрын

Facts

Love this format to share different viewpoints. I think this is what this world needs.

saying it louder for the people at the back: CORRELATION IS NOT EQUAL TO CAUSATION!!

Hold up.. DID A PEDIATRICIAN JUST SAY HE’S ANTIVAX AND CONTINUES TO SAY HE KNOWS THEY WORK.

@bothpoint8667

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, how contradictory 🙄

@scottpe6226

3 жыл бұрын

@@bothpoint8667 Nope. You both missed the point. Anti-vaxxers do not say that all vaccines do not work. Some work very well. Others do not. Some have potentially serious long term side effects. Dr. Bob Sears is not anti-vax. He is pro informed consent so that parents and individuals can make an informed decision based on the risks of vaccines.

@izzyz3400

3 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing he’s antivax about himself and probably his kids, but he has that “you do you boo” mentality to his patients

@scottpe6226

3 жыл бұрын

@@izzyz3400 - He's not antivax.

@Nathan-ke3dn

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like he was more or less dragged onto the anti-vax side

I hate how these anti-vax soccer moms say they do "research", when their idea of research is visiting the second page of google search results

@maddybanko

5 жыл бұрын

Oskar the second page of google search results is biased, government propaganda

@kagedghost3079

5 жыл бұрын

ive done plenty of research none of which was on google but whatever 😂

@JC-qe9be

5 жыл бұрын

and apparently their research is equal to years of studying and practicing to earn an MD

@panzerschiff9805

5 жыл бұрын

@@JC-qe9be And with strict restrictions, rules , exams etc.

@Pri-ze7fv

5 жыл бұрын

Burn

"Why wear body armor, plate carriers and helmets if bullets still go through helmets and the armor plates don't cover the whole body?"

Melissa: "I know my child better then you, so I don't trust you doctor: "your child has cancer" Melissa: "no she doesn't, because I know my child, and I know she wouldn't have it" the cancer:.........

I'm anti-breathing because there's a lot of air pollution and I might get sick.

@LordMedic

4 жыл бұрын

Yo I am anti-water as well cuz you can drown

@patricktsai2303

4 жыл бұрын

Did you know breathing air causes lung cancer?

@RealElevenTimes

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm against breathing t...

@starlite8348

4 жыл бұрын

Mhmm i am too

@killerr-co6di

4 жыл бұрын

Yo im anti-life because every life ends in death

As someone who was born and raised in Sierra Leone, one of the poorest countries in the world, I will attest that vaccines should be a must and should be considered a privilege to have. The infant mortality alone in countries where kids don't get vaccinated is atrocious. Also, being an educated person means that you realize there will always be a risk factor to anything in life. What matters in the end is "Does it do more good than harm". My 2 cents.

@ritvikkanchanapally7909

4 жыл бұрын

Your English is very good

@ritvikkanchanapally7909

4 жыл бұрын

@tututuims ieijebdo not u, the guy raised in Sierra Leone

@jamescarew4426

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritvikkanchanapally7909 thank you.

@bigsplash6055

4 жыл бұрын

James Carew THIS COMMENT RIGHT HERE IS TOO PERFECT

@jamescarew4426

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigsplash6055 much appreciated

I swear to god, jubilee's next video is going to be murderers and non murderers- middle ground

If they are skeptical about doctors and not trusting them, who’s to say the research they did is also not lying to them? Did they go to a trusted source?

The woman whose daughter had all those adverse reactions to vaccines would be an example of someone who NEEDS herd immunity (needs other people to be vaccinated) because she is unable to be vaccinated herself. If everyone was unvaccinated, her daughter would have a significantly higher chance of catching something.

@izbella1857

5 жыл бұрын

casano3 Vacations never helped me with not getting sick. I've been Vaccine free and haven't been severely sick for going on 5 years now, of course I've had a few colds here and there but not to the point where it turned into something serious. I have a weak immune system and kidneys but get sick less then anyone I know that's Vaccinated.

@cestalia

5 жыл бұрын

@@izbella1857 The problem is when you get older or when there is an outbreak. I got chicken pox during high school, it was fine, but now I had the scar. (At least it is small scar) Then my uncle has polio and paralyzed now. You also might want to help the one that get autoimmune disease and can't get vaccinated. Just make sure you don't traveling or you get caught with foreigners disease.

@ryanm1630

5 жыл бұрын

Iz Bella that’s literally like saying I haven’t used a seat belt for the past 5 years and I haven’t gotten hurt but I know people that always wear seat belts but have gotten hurt and I have a cheap not safe car when other people have safer cars. It’s really more about luck than anything else. Also vaccines help make diseases less severe if you get it

@isaacweatherington3558

5 жыл бұрын

No lol, I haven’t been vaccinated in over 10 years and I am fine. Everyday I am around multiple people who aren’t vaccinated either. Herd immunity is a false theory.

@beatm6948

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly my point!

This girl over here tried to “out smart” a Doctor about MEDICATION I am DECEASED

@azathoth8888

5 жыл бұрын

So are Anti-Vaxx children

@reportaccount474

5 жыл бұрын

Dashy medication*

@User-hy6ur

5 жыл бұрын

@@azathoth8888 that was good.

@g8yearsago948

5 жыл бұрын

Yr deceased cuz u didn’t have yr vaccine against pro plague

@sunrise5710

5 жыл бұрын

Subzero99 good job

Vaxed vs unvaxed research has never been done, why?? - Here's an important book: "TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN - Vaccine Science and Myth"

@jenn8470

Ай бұрын

Best book ever

Ok so i am from India and for those who have no idea it's because of aggressive vaccine drives our country is free from polio and yaws. Smallpox is non existent now . Due to BCG now many don't suffer from tuberculosis . Vaccines have been boon to us. If u live in a first world privileged society with none of our tropical diseases u should be thankful. If u are anti vax u are nothing but ignorant. Yes risks are always their but trust me u don't want to suffer from polio , smallpox or tb , you have no idea how debilitating those conditions are .

"I know my kid better than a doctor does" Yes, emotionally, this is true. But just because you know and love your kid, would you do a heart operation on him or let a doctor operate your kid? Exactly, you would let your doctor do it. So why is this different with vaccines? Honestly if their kids will need a heart operation I think they will massage them with essential oils so I just debunked my own point

@dajoler

5 жыл бұрын

That's actually one of the problems with self-diagnosing a family member; *because* you're emotionally invested and attached to them, it makes it harder to be less objective. It's why doctors are strongly discouraged from treating their own family members.

@renil295

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly I can't even begin to understand why you think you know better than a doctor. If my daughter has a cold or flu and she has a different symptom from the normal one I think she's literally dying and if it was up to me she would be doing blood tests and scans and MRI a hundred times a year. When a doctor gives just pain killers I think this person must be crazy. And yet so far the doctor has been right 100% of the time. So no, you don't always know better that a doctor or professionals. Is it possible that sometimes in an emergency a doctor might be, yes. But not about something that's been researched and continues to be researched.

@Flydroi

5 жыл бұрын

That statement got me, too. I posted my own ranting comment, lol. Knowing your kids behavior doesn't qualify you to make informed medical decisions. Honestly it sounds like she has no idea what herd immunity even is or any understanding of the methods behind vaccines.

@MM4332_

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. You know your kid, not the disease.

@lookhowshegobbledthat

5 жыл бұрын

Let these anti-vaxxers operate on their children. After shipping all of them to some deserted island where they can give their children preventable deadly diseases in peace.

“It’s as if not being a doctor somehow makes my opinion less valid.” That’s because it DOES. Your opinion on medicine IS less valid than someone who has studied for a decade and then followed that with many years of real world experience, because they are experts in this subject. What a weird sense of entitlement to think that your opinion bares the same weight as that of a qualified medical professional.

@ginnybayliss2885

5 жыл бұрын

Lizzie Allen read it again without the dumbass goggles on. I didn’t say doctors are never wrong, in fact I never said anything about who’s right or wrong at all. I said that her opinion does carry less weight than that of someone trained to understand the condition of sick people, since she has no formal training. Whine about it all you like, the doctors opinion is infinitely more valid than her own.

@jonathanarroyo6319

5 жыл бұрын

Lizzie Allen and who are you getting that 2nd opinion from? That’s right ANOTHER DOCTOR. Lol

@sammysaito529

5 жыл бұрын

Lizzie Allen So do you think a opinion of a doctor that have years of study and experience is better then a opinion of a mon that say she did "research" on the Internet? The Internet are never wrong right?

@constanzainzunza3482

5 жыл бұрын

Lizzie Allen so you can ask another DOCTOR 🙄

@justinz9225

5 жыл бұрын

The key word is "opinion". As if opinion has anything to do with it. Doctors can obviously be wrong, but we have the data to demonstrate the effects. We have the peer reviews and the studies. It has nothing to do with opinion.

" just because I don't have dr in front of my name doesn't mean that my opinion is less valid" yes, it does, actually.

When people say "Parents know their children best", it is definitely not in medical contexts. 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

It's a scary thing for me to know that even a pediatrician can be an anti-vax person.....

@s2sHoXXs2

5 жыл бұрын

Dont worry, someone mentioned that the anti vax pediatrician is on probation from the medical board, lol

@cutingirl

5 жыл бұрын

Santiago PoopPee ScatVore oh yeah. He’s in it to make money. He’s spouting garbage

@blondexsunshine

5 жыл бұрын

Santiago PoopPee ScatVore what really? I wonder why they chose him for this video then

@KeenScout.

5 жыл бұрын

He might be faking it

“The doctor doesn’t know your child as much as you do” You know what he does know Karen? *the human body*

@snowbird6855

4 жыл бұрын

@Jamrs Roberts Is that why they misdiagnose so often? My friend brought her daughter to the paediatrician several times and repeatedly asked for tests to determine the cause of her symptoms. The doctor kept sending her home. Finally she said after checking online, she suspects diabetes and asked for the child to be tested and he reluctantly agreed. Of course that's what it was. My eldest used to get strep a lot and if it occurred on a weekend, I would go to a walk in clinic. Invariably they'd tell me she doesn't have it yet I would insist on a swab, cuz I knew. And it always came back positive. I was just so familiar with her behavior I knew right away when she had it. Ask anyone with kids and they'll tell you stories like this. Ask your parents.

@TaiSupreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@snowbird6855 Nice bible

@danaegregoric7278

4 жыл бұрын

TaiSupreme Edit what? I’m confused?

@TaiSupreme

4 жыл бұрын

@@danaegregoric7278 I just said that because it is a big text, don't worry about it

@AnymMusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@snowbird6855 that's called incompetence. not misdiagnose.

I think it's easier to say that the risks outweighs the reward until you or child suffers some of those risks.

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

As Willy Wonka would say: _"strike that - reverse it."_ Your "risk" already exists as the infectious pathogens are out there spreading. Ergo you either stimulate immunity via vaccines which stress your body less - OR - you roll the dice to catch the full-blown illness. That of course comes with vastly higher chances for an adverse outcome. A child unable to abide exposure to a weakened vaccine would more than likely react poorly to simply catching the full-blown illness. Think about it.

@maroonmaroonmaroon2985

Жыл бұрын

I see you went to the elmo before?!?! Back down from a subway wall down back fro a leave it aloneFjdhajdjfhshdj

@lavenderlavenderlavender5680

Жыл бұрын

Second chances 123.. TWO THOUUUSAND TWELVE!!

I'm a teen I'm not an expert in the medical field. But I do know this. Many Pro-vaxxers *are* hostile to anti-vaxxers, and that's from my personal experience, - and reading this comment section. (Personally I've seen healthy unvaccinated kids and unhealthy vaccinated kids, Soo...🤨) All I know is I could look a nurse in the face and question them about the shot they gave a child I was close to, (a child who then consequently died) and have them say 'i'd do it again.' And from that day to now, who knows, she probably has.

@varyolla435

Жыл бұрын

Your argument here as it happens = is what one would expect from a kid - just saying. 1 - you *ASSUME* all the anti-vaxxers you see here are real people. That is a poor assumption. Trolls/bots/sock puppet accounts are legion on this platform. 2 - asking questions is okay. Presuming to know the proper answer when you admit you do not understand the science however........ 3 - the infectious diseases that vaccines work against are real = ergo their impact is also therefore real. In other words stop acting like only vaccines carry "risk" as that is superficial thinking. If a dozen people a year react badly to say the MMR vaccine to end up filing a claim with the VICP in the US = actual Measles alone used to send tens of thousands to the hospital each year before there was an MMR vaccine - it is a matter of historical record. Thus serious adverse reactions to vaccination are very rare - exceedingly rare. The same occurring as a result of people who catch the illness in question however = are much, much more frequent. You see one outcome or the other will happen because of #3. Your chances with vaccination are exponentially better. Final thought. Vaccines are weaker by design. So a person unable to tolerate exposure to a weakened vaccine = think how they would react to simply catching the full-blown infectious disease "naturally"...... 🤔

“you’re too young to have arthritis” i can guarantee you no doctor said that. there are different forms of arthritis, some that affect babies. if her doctor said that she needs to change doctors.

@Agmolly

5 жыл бұрын

cassidy’s edits Doctors say that kind of all the time. Especially to women. Just ask the disabled/chronic illness community.

@ashleycharmac

5 жыл бұрын

My brother is 18 and he has gout, when it runs in the family it’s pretty common that young adults show symptoms 🤷🏻‍♀️

@elusivids8155

5 жыл бұрын

Ashley MacLellan exactly. i was tested for rheumatoid arthritis and i’m only 16. arthritis affects many different people of many different ages

@emmie9469

5 жыл бұрын

That woman actually got on my nerves complaining about arthritis and how she was too young. Mate, I’ve had it since I was TWO. I’m a teenager and I can handle it better than her smh

@Agmolly

5 жыл бұрын

... I didn’t doubt that? I’ve been sick since I was ...well always, but it really took off when I was 13. I’ve heard “you’re too young for this” for ages. In my personal experience, most of those comments have come from doctors.

Telling a physician that they’re wrong is like telling Chef Gordon Ramsey that he’s cooking Risotto wrong.

@jedimmj11

5 жыл бұрын

Well he did say pineapple doesn't belong on pizza and he's obviously wrong about that, so bad analogy

@massojupiter3436

5 жыл бұрын

@@jedimmj11 it's a good analogy actually. Toppings on a pizza is an opinion.

@crazyswag2153

5 жыл бұрын

The Man With The Dash Cam. Same with the Doctor you refused to acknowledge because you need to "research" and the "risks" and "ingredients."

@jedimmj11

5 жыл бұрын

@@massojupiter3436 I'm just kidding

@massojupiter3436

5 жыл бұрын

@@jedimmj11 yeah I thought you were for a second but the " bad analogy " confused me a little.

People in U.S still have discussions about stuff like this? Man I really don't understand how they're the most powerful country...

@jarynn8156

3 жыл бұрын

Anti-vax movements are strong in most developed countries. Because Westerners aren't exposed to the horrors of the viruses these vaccines treat, many take for granted how much they owe to them.

@user-fo7mu7hx4w

3 жыл бұрын

@@jarynn8156 thats true. I live in a "third world " country (India )but i never have heard any opposition to vaccines

@footballbeast6002

3 жыл бұрын

@@jarynn8156 yeah I agree

Alternate title people who studied medicine vs those who just googled it

Pro vaccine : i have 2 daughters, 10 and 13 Non vaccine : They are so old!

@smartyul2278

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@snowbird6855

4 жыл бұрын

@Victoria Ashlyn You have no clue what you're talking about. Look up the 30 year vaccine program established by Dr Peter Aaby in Guinea Bassau. Report back once you've read the results... if your attention span lasts that long and you can read some scientific research.

@franksmith900

4 жыл бұрын

Christine Paolini in the years following the introduction of the measles vaccine, reported numbers of cases fell from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands, this is also true for pretty much every other vaccinated disease. Vaccines work, just accept it and stop trying to be different

@nahfamimgood4094

4 жыл бұрын

Anti-vaxx kids don't last that long.

“I read blogs.. I know more than doctors do.” Sis, doctors go through 4 years of college. 4 years of MS. 4 years of training in your work (Intern, Resident, Attending). The doctor knows better than bloggers. Bye.

@michellepet40

5 жыл бұрын

Yuliza Mora-Otanez finally someone said it, Jesus.

Non of the "anti vax" parents were saying that no vaccines should be used.. I didn't hear that once. Literally all they were asking for was compassion and to be heard regarding the adverse reactions they and their kids experienced. Just because I won't vaccinate myself with flu vaccines because of the adverse reactions I've personally had doesn't mean I don't think other people who don't experience that shouldn't. I did even get the flu vaccine while pregnant for the benefit of my son and he didn't move for 3 days afterwards, went into severe distress and I ended up with an emergency c-section. Still don't think others shouldn't vaccinate if they feel safe to.

@varyolla435

Жыл бұрын

Look at the possible side effects of a give vaccine. Now look at what the infectious disease the vaccine helps prevent also causes in humans infected with it = note the similarity of symptomatology. Thus as both can cause a similar outcome it becomes a matter of which one is more likely to elicit those adverse side effects. History and science show that the chances of your incurring a serious side effect from vaccination is a fraction of the same should you simply catch the infectious disease in question. Meanwhile the more people vaccinated the better the "herd immunity" = which helps reduce local incidence of the illness = which reduces your chances of being exposed in the first place. As vaccines elicit weaker immune reactions by design than simple becoming infected it bears noting that people unable to tolerate exposure to a weakened vaccine = would likely react similarly - or worse - upon simply being infected to bear a full-blown infection. So it is always sad when someone reacts badly to vaccination. Yet the reality is that far more react worse to simply acquiring these vaccine-preventable illnesses. Exposure becomes a matter of "when" rather than "if". 🤔

@althepsyphros3314

Жыл бұрын

​@@varyolla435 If that was true we could compare the health of vaccinated people and unvaccinated people throughout history and now and see who is better off. No studies like that have been done on more than one vaccine at a time in isolation, and many vaccines haven't even been looked at at all. Isolated studies, while helpful, don't tell us about accumulative effects and the combination of vaccines at once. (Note these isolated studies aren't vaxxed unvaxxed studies they are partiallyv vaxxed Vs fully vaxxed So you have to compare fully vaxxed and fully unvaxxed as well. Also, we don't really know for sure what the effectiveness of vaccines is. We cannot easily assess what percentage of the decrease in death and cases since vaccine rollouts is due to vaccines causally because other things have played massive roles in that mitigation. It's also easy to misdiagnose diseases. For example, we know many cases of polio were misdiagnosed and were really something else like transverse Myelitis or GBS , and diseases that may have been caused by other things or caused by polio through other things. One theory that has never been put to bet regarding polio is that there was a lot of gut cell damage caused by the overusage of dangerous pesticides like DDT and lead arsenate over the 20th century that we knew caused paralysis in animals that we knew caused damage to the lower gut wall. This would explain a lot. It would explain why polio effected young children more than adults, because the gut is closer to the spinal cord in young children and polio viruses are contained in the gut microbiome close enough to the spine that it could transport over to it through this damage. It would also explain why every other theory scientists thought explained why polio effected kids more than adults didn't work out. It would explain why it affected the legs more so than anywhere else. Which is also something doctors and scientists couldn't make sense of with any other explanation. It would explain why it was so seasonal, and so common in the summer months, when these chemicals were sprayed all over the food. Which is also something the scientists couldn't explain any other way. It would also explain why polio so badly affected countries like the USA where pesticides like DDT were sprayed to oblivion onto all the food and crops and in the streets. And why polio didn't affect the Philippinos when Americans in the Philippines were suffering so badly. It would also explain why people in the country and rural areas knew about polio more than in the suburbs. The list goes on, temporalily and chronologically there is strong correlation too. So it's not as obvious as you think.

@varyolla435

Жыл бұрын

@@althepsyphros3314 🦜 Your cut & paste response typifies the superficial logic behind vaccine opposition. I suppose I should thank you for that example. Everything you just ranted - everything = belies *NOT* understanding. Your Polio rationalization is an example of incredulity-based logic as you gin up endless "what if......" responses so as to justify your obvious lack of understanding here = yet nothing indicates a desire to rectify the problem. Polio is not misdiagnosed for the simple fact that anyone presenting with neurological symptoms synonymous with Polio would be tested = and the presence of the virus would show. Vaccine-preventable illnesses such as Polio are "reportable events" and thus anyone suspected must be tested and if positive = that is reported. Similarly Poliovirus is spread via contaminated water/sewage and accordingly sources of water - such as contaminated wells in your rural areas or pools etc. such as people visit in the warmer weather = facilitate its spread. The virus can exist in the environment for up to 2 months - further enhancing its ability to spread. So all you ranted is explainable if you understand the science - which you don't. p.s. - there are loads of safety studies out there relating to co-administration of vaccines on the schedule. Perhaps you should parrot anti-vaccine talking points and conjecture less = and learn the science and study the issue more. So much for purported "self-research". Dunning-Kruger and confirmation bias as always rules for some.

@varyolla435

Жыл бұрын

@@govlovesyou1334 You haven't actually said anything you know. So one can assume your understanding here = is similarly nil. So how's the weather in St. Petersburg??? 🤨

That lady saying her doctor doesn’t know her child... she is gonna have huge bias such as anxiety for her kids safety and overanalyse therefore being less objective. Also there’s a reason doctors have the title - they train for years critically analysing medical evidence and though some make mistakes, you can get a second opinion but unfortunately most people aren’t educated enough to evaluate all the data of each vaccine/disease pathology themselves so you need to trust them at some point.

@varyolla435

3 жыл бұрын

People often become inured to their surroundings. Thus as an example a person who is beginning to manifest signs of Alzheimer's may see family members as the last ones to catch on as they simply "get used to" what they see every day. More importantly here however is they are not qualified to objectively view what they see so as to reach possible conclusions = whereas doctors are. So you are correct in that the "it is my child" is not a valid point from which to possibly assess behavioral abnormalities as parents are not trained to do so. A doctor sees lots of children on a regular basis and thus know exactly what to look for as they often see these abnormal behaviors as well as are educated on what to look for. People like to rationalize based upon ignorance and assumption - which is what you see here. Have a nice day.

I want middle ground between people who believe in covid and people who don’t

@sonic3817

3 жыл бұрын

Well you obviously don’t if you want people to come here and possibly spread the virus. I think they should do this virtually, stop trying to spread corona.

@sonic3817

3 жыл бұрын

Kamogelo Maponya that’s literally what I said, try reading

@Seven-vn6qi

3 жыл бұрын

Drunk Sonic who shat in ya cereal

@sonic3817

3 жыл бұрын

Revenant joe

@audreyjones7990

3 жыл бұрын

Ngl sounds like an argument between trump supporters and everyone else

Anti-vaxx people sayin some pretty bold stuff while within sneezing distance..

@17ftd

5 жыл бұрын

they are safe cus they are all vaxxed

@Mutanninja

5 жыл бұрын

This is the best comment I have seen on all of KZread.

@jak3358

5 жыл бұрын

Mutanninja 🚫🧢

@rinyushoku494

5 жыл бұрын

this comment deserves way more likes lmao

@marthab-c5226

5 жыл бұрын

Well it’s fine. Apparently they are ok hurting their children while taken something that probably saved their lives for granted.

The thing that anti vaxxers don’t get is that if a person is allergic to vaccines and can’t be vaccinated, that person is actually being protected from diseases by herd immunity, by people who are vaccinated. This is why vaccines are important.

@varyolla435

3 жыл бұрын

Actually they get it = but they simply do not care. Vaccine opponents by and large are usually consumed with "me" = rather than "we". If you pay attention to what they say to rationalize their beliefs they are almost always emblematic of facile logic and egocentrism for their part. They are not looking at the larger picture here - usually on purpose. Have a nice day.

@supisaraangthong

3 жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 oh god. That’s even worse.😟

This was so heartwarming to watch because I feel like we're so divided as a society when we should all be respecting each other just like this video showed

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

Lies which act to harm others are still lies irrespective of how "nice" the person advocating the lie is or how nice those who listen are in response. So what matters here is not meaningless fixation upon "niceties". What matters is what the vaccine opponents claim is dubious in its content and it results in harm to others via allowing vaccine-preventable illnesses to continue to exist in the public space. Not all "opinion" merits countenance if it results in harm to others.

@outogetyougotyou5250

Жыл бұрын

You can't respect an opinion based on idiocy, bias, and feelings.

"As a parent I know my child best" But your doctor knows your child's biological situation best. You can observe that your kid isn't breathing, but more often than not, the doctor knows why.

@sethadkins546

4 жыл бұрын

Most doctors actually recommend that you let other more educated people make the decisions because you can actually be more biased towards your own child, whether that they need more assistance or less.

@BPedo8IGHT

4 жыл бұрын

@@sethadkins546 Extremely obvious but correct.

@seankeogh2193

4 жыл бұрын

That pissed me off so much when that woman said that. She sounds like an overprotective helicopter parent that thinks she knows everything. Guess what Susan? Reading on web MD isnt the equivalent of going to a university for 8 years

@manniefresh3425

4 жыл бұрын

I could just imagine her kid having a medical emergency she brings them to the hospital and the doctor ask "okay what wrong with you kid and what do you want us to do since obviously, you know more, imaging, labs be damnbed"

@Chipwhitley274

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah... informed consent be damned. Doctors have never lead anyone astray. Why would anyone think they should be the ultimate decision maker when it comes to their own bodies?

Doctor: this is a fact Mother: no.

@owbahraniya500

5 жыл бұрын

Jack Huntsman Yes. Exactly my mom. She says nope don’t trust them they know NOTHING

@sydthakyd98

5 жыл бұрын

“Because the internet says so”

@brochiing4295

5 жыл бұрын

@@sydthakyd98 and are the same ones to say not everything is true, these people are hypocrites

@dr.mantistoboggan9695

5 жыл бұрын

Doctor:this is a needle. Mother:no that's autism.

@kalsabrain1370

5 жыл бұрын

@philip trevor And that source is a collection of decades of reaserch, experience and sacrifice. Made by millions...

This would be very interesting to be remade now

@zorro_lorenor6717

2 жыл бұрын

It is

Please redo this episode! Perfect time with the covid era, quarantines, and the new variants!

@snowcat9703

9 ай бұрын

With actual anti-vaxxers(which we are more simply pro-choice ) that have a medical background(many of us exist)… so people can actually stop using that as a poor excuse for having a differing opinion.

how are the anti-vaxxers talking about the pros downplaying something while completely downplaying all the risks of not vaxxing themselves?

@humblemumble27

5 жыл бұрын

omg preach!

@mephisto2812

5 жыл бұрын

Because they only care about their own opinion and don't care about the safety of their kids...

@GrowingDownUnder

5 жыл бұрын

vaccines only help build a resistance to the virus, the vaccine contain a virus and antigen but usually in very small amounts. This allows your body to recognize the virus when it enters your body and fight it off easier if you encounter the virus later in life. Just like water resistant technology, it's not water proof. Same with vaccines you are not virus proof. A misunderstanding is that if you're vaccinated you can't catch the virus which is false. You'd still catch the virus either way but the people who are vaccinated can fight off infection easier due to being exposed to the virus through vaccines the immune system recognizes it. Well that's what the theory says, there is exceptions like if you have a weak immune system then your body doesn't fight it off quicker and you still get it. There's been cases of people who are vaccinated against measles or the flu they still get measles /flu mostly due weak immune system. There is also many strains of viruses and virus evolve over time they are always changing. 1 vaccine is not a cure it all medicine it doesn't work like that. The risks of not vaccinating are exactly the same as being vaccinated, but vaccines come with their own risk of injury ranging from allergic reactions, contaminated vaccines & toxins. We know that vaccine injury definitely exists because of the victims and because vaccine court has paid them money for it after they were able to prove it was caused by vaccines. We know in some rare circumstances children have even died from vaccines as with the recent case in samoa. You can spread germs on hands even if vaccinated, I believe good hygiene and sterilizing the surface of anything you touch / eat off is the key to staying virus free.

@itateigman6746

5 жыл бұрын

seems like you're basing your opinions on unfounded industry "science". Vaccines do not, and never did - contribute towards good health in the least!

@humblemumble27

5 жыл бұрын

GrowingDownUnder yes, i agree with keeping a good hygiene and all that stuff. having yourself vaccined first is your choice anyway. what i learn is that, it’s better to do a prevention first and that’s it.

“Doctors don’t know my child like I do”...oh yeah? How about next time your kid gets appendicitis you do the surgery then, bc after all you know best..right? 🙂

@jolynekujo8078

4 жыл бұрын

Surgery probs doesnt need vaccines

@anushkapandey8588

4 жыл бұрын

She probably meant in terms of allergies and stuff but the way it was worded kinda seemed ignorant

@leggo_my_ego3118

4 жыл бұрын

I was the 666 like😳

@Jordan-nv6hb

4 жыл бұрын

Leggo_my_ego 311 I was the 777th like 😳

@bernardsoul5186

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-nv6hb I was the 793 like.

Personally I'm a pro for vaccines and thought this would just be another angry conversation but this is actually nice to see and to hear how much I agree with both sides as well as disagree with some other things

Answer: 100% get vaccinated now

@darkserpent6884

2 жыл бұрын

wrong answer

Doctors who study 8+ years vs. A person who looks information up. 🤔

@naimomohamed6953

5 жыл бұрын

One of the doctors was not pro vax

@farethah3409

5 жыл бұрын

@Zoey Bennett lol because doing your research online is 100% accurate right smh

@josephrusso4828

5 жыл бұрын

I've seen people disregard proven facts with that attitude

@josephrusso4828

5 жыл бұрын

Zoey Bennett where else is she supposed to go?

@josephrusso4828

5 жыл бұрын

Farethah where else is she supposed to go?

I swear to god melissa's logic is like: Because i'm allergic to almonds, that means that almonds are bad for you and they should be banned

@magalaleo9949

4 жыл бұрын

We should ban birth because some babies die during pregnancy. I will not stand for this dangerous procedure!

@Kq31213

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I stubbed my toe on a chair so all chairs must be burned to a crisp

@GothBatty

4 жыл бұрын

Haapi Hiivistö I’m eating one now. Omg 😅

@workout9594

4 жыл бұрын

Haapi Hiivistö it's literally the meme that 700,000 people die in hospitals each year, ban hospitals Complete wilful ignorance

@thisisgaming1604

4 жыл бұрын

Haapi Hiivistö it’s not "Melissa" it’s measles

This would be interesting to do again

You should bring this group back for an update, post covid chat.

"My kid can't take vaccines, so no one should have to."

@Cultured_shorts

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr these idiots

@matt4280

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr? It should be "my kid can't take vaccines, so everyone else should."

@ryanclerk9731

3 жыл бұрын

@@matt4280 No that would be too informed.

@lxve4540

3 жыл бұрын

AB05 yeah but most of these things just want to cause a riot

@ryanclerk9731

3 жыл бұрын

@Ebon Knight You're free to be wrong.

i cringed when that lady said “safe-ish”.

@Tosaaa

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr, wouldn't you rather be "safe-ish" than not safe, wtf is wrong with people these days

@katieishere3187

5 жыл бұрын

Safe-ish vs the unsafe of diseases that they prevent lmao

They lost the argument as soon as they came forward when said "I am vaccinated" 😂😂

@darkserpent6884

2 жыл бұрын

i feel you on that

This hits differently now

What scares me is how that anti vax mom keeps correcting the doctor and genuinely believes she’s right and he’s wrong!

@jmartini544

5 жыл бұрын

Des are only taught they are safe and effective they learn nothing else about vaccines in med school...so the parent is usually waaaaaay more educated on VACCINES

@ericy1817

5 жыл бұрын

@@jmartini544 Are you kidding? Doctors go through years of study on all topics, including on vaccines, and you seriously believe a parent who has spent a couple hours on the internet is more educated than a doctor? Furthermore, the mechanisms of vaccines are taught in high school biology classes, and the anti-vaxxers are even getting those simple facts wrong.

@najwaf2670

5 жыл бұрын

Eric stop just stop. Doctors aren't Gods like calm down. Just cause someone "studies" something, and also if I might add, everything you are taught is all pre determined cause they want you to believe these things So please just stop. So many of these articles we reference and read are written by previous doctors who studied medicine. Go watch Vaxxed and just stop It goes so far beyond what you studied in school, it's called COMMON SENSE and I dont know about you put I trust in the body and immune system that GOD gave me

@mochacocobread8310

5 жыл бұрын

Najwa F If you have so much trust in your god than I’m sure you’ll have much more fun seeing him sooner than later

@ericy1817

5 жыл бұрын

@@najwaf2670 OK, let me break your comment down. 1. "Doctors aren't gods" No, I'm not saying they are, I'm saying that because they have devoted their life into one field means they should have more of a say in that field. 2. "Everything you are taught is all pre determined cause they want you to believe these things." I don't know about you, but a lot of doctors and people in med school are able to test many of the things they learn by themselves to see for themselves. Not all of school is just lectures. 3. "I trust in the body and immune system" I do too. I trust my body to be able to fend of common diseases. However, many diseases are so bad or lethal that I don't trust my body to completely prevent symptoms, or to rid the disease during incubation period, during which, I might add, there is minimal immune response. I don't want to run the risk of getting these diseases, which is why I am pro-vaccine. 4. The definite response: If you don't want diseases in you, why do you get vaccines? In response to that, I would like to say that I have a healthy immune system and do not have any autoimmune disorders. Therefore, I would rather be exposed to weakened or inactive pathogens in a controlled environment in a scientifically tested manner than come into contact in the environment, where bodily harm is more likely.

Kat Von D has joined the chat

@klluquette1925

5 жыл бұрын

Common Sense has left the chat.

@danakrobinson03

5 жыл бұрын

Iconic omg hi sis i see you everywhere

@kanedomican2248

5 жыл бұрын

Iconic her children’s lives left the chat

@MikanBaldmiki

5 жыл бұрын

Kat Von DISEASE.

@williamshinn1319

5 жыл бұрын

Kat Von Who?😅😝

I LOVE these conversations 💕 Let's listen to each other....I'm so, so tired of all the conflict online. Can we somehow stop?

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Perhaps it is time to forgo the naivety here. Just saying. Moral of the story: not every argument merits consideration let alone countenance. If someone was threatening to come burn your house down would you debate them - or call the cops??? I rather think the latter and the reason is obvious = potential harm to others............so it is here. The end result of vaccine resistance = perpetuation of infectious diseases and ultimately harm and death of others. Anti-vaccination is the very essence of selfishness. People are putting their own ideological beliefs over the safety of others. What anti-vaxxers really want is not a supposed "choice" as actually they are denying others that very thing. By allowing infectious diseases to propagate they facilitate others being infected against their will. What they really are demanding is to evade responsibility for those poor choices. So no = their supposed "concerns" are subjective and not based upon legitimate science. As such their have no real point as this is about one thing only = *PUBLIC* health and not whimsical belief. Sometimes people must be pushed to do the right thing - even if they do not see the reasons behind it. Something new to think about.

@queenofanon9972

2 жыл бұрын

This issue isn't gonna be solved by just discussing. There has to be a conclusion and a compromise, which clearly didn't happen in this video

@jdubo1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@queenofanon9972 We should take anti-vaxxers and push it somewhere else.

It’s unbelievably disheartening to see how much judgment and hate lies within these public comments. Middle Ground’s mission is to bridge a gap and provide an opportunity for individuals to see why someone holds a different opinion and belief than they do. This channel is to invite compassion, empathy, and allow us to see something from someone else’s perspective. The people in these videos are real people who deserve to be heard. It takes a lot of courage to voice one’s beliefs knowing it will be heard and seen by many. Each person on this video deserves a pat on the back and some respect. Please put your pride aside before making a comment that is putting someone else down!

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

Do you work for Middle Ground??? If not = how then do you get to decide what their videos are supposedly about??? Moral of the story: your "perspective" - aka your "opinion" - is your problem I'm afraid. In matters of public health all that matters is = "science". There is no perspective in science = merely credible evidence or a lack thereof. Thus poorly formed assumptions and opinions which are subjective to the individual alone and which act to undermine public health = merit no countenance whatsoever. This is not an abstract issue. It is pure cause & effect. When *INFECTIOUS* diseases are allowed to spread and mutate owing to the poor choices of some based upon their whimsical "perspective" = others are harmed. Think harder and stop rationalizing bad behavior.

@Grateful4God24.7

2 жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 I am simply trying to invite more compassion and empathy into the discussions we have as humans on controversial topics with one another. Your reply seems very defensive and emotionally charged. I’m not trying to argue science vs. opinion or get anyone riled up. I just care about all people and want to be able to have calm and caring conversations where each party is heard. I hope you, your family, and anyone you know has a blessed and prosperous life! Peace be with you :).

Pro vaccine: 3 doctors Anti vaccine:1physician-1Designer-and the other lady doesn’t even know what job she has officially

@EHowdy97

5 жыл бұрын

A physician who has had his license revoked due to giving false information

@snoopdogg7407

5 жыл бұрын

Man's went to med school to get revoked

@AquielN

5 жыл бұрын

And the anti vaccine physician even agreed that vaccines work, he contradicted himself

@cedrics7374

5 жыл бұрын

Nope.. Pro vaccine : 1 self proclaimed parenting expert, 2 physicians. Anti vaccine 1 physician, 1 designer and 1 person who either has no job or doesn’t care to tell You see pro vaxers like to exaggerate their intelligence..

@haydenwilliams4562

5 жыл бұрын

Cédric S ah yes. The great exaggeration of spending 4-10 years studying medicine and making that known when asked!

Anti-vaxxer: “this conversation lacks compassion” David: Am I a joke to you?

@VOLAIRE

4 жыл бұрын

For real, coming from the one who doesn’t have compassion to hear things out

@user-dx5bn4yk4f

4 жыл бұрын

WhyHasGodAbandonedUs she might be apathetic. What a woman.

@aceasher2806

4 жыл бұрын

offtopic but augjvsthrsffjj i love your julian icon qwq

@paw.is.online

4 жыл бұрын

I love ur julian icon

@noname-yc8pf

4 жыл бұрын

Karen: talks about her kid's experience Doctor: also talk about his kid's experience Karen: this conversation lacks compassion

That lady with the bangs takes things very personally. It’s unfortunate she feels so vulnerable and attacked. Breathe.

No one understands that your child is not just your child but a citizen of the world. They’re not just an individual but part of a community.

@youawesome2068

Жыл бұрын

BAD NEWS TOY PAPA BEAR UNITED STATES OF UHMERICA!!!

Melissa: *loses argument* can I speak to the manager Everyone else: wh-what Melissa: sorry that usually works

@katielamborghini3551

5 жыл бұрын

She is a Karen 😂

@penguinsmelodic5122

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao my name is Melissa and this whole video I was cringing like her name should be Karen

@AlexG-th3co

5 жыл бұрын

Alberto Garcia bruh how dare u...... u made me snort my milk lmao

@mascwintle2968

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry but i just have to ask did i miss that part in the vid or did u make that up 😅

@zmatics

5 жыл бұрын

Alberto Garcia wait fr she said that

I' m dead that the Marissa lady was trying to really act like the doctor was uneducated like she also has a phd like wtf

@Angelica-wo4hm

5 жыл бұрын

“I did my research” like you went on google ??? she had me dead 💀

@Redmoonlit

5 жыл бұрын

She probably went on web MD 😂😂

@Angelica-wo4hm

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pumpped ugh thank god. I'm ready

@alinastarkov

5 жыл бұрын

Pumpped we have more chances of dying in a car crash than by vaccines stop fear mongering

@bensdusty1693

5 жыл бұрын

Shes the lemme speak to your manager type

Can the world stop saying "I need to do my research"? None of these people without a degree have done any significant or comparable "research" to what scientists do.

@varyolla435

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean. Do you not realize they are graduates of the "University" of Fakebook/Instagarbage/Twit-R/Faux News........ 🤣

Doctors; Learning from years of studying other doctors and scientists' research Moms; Sees one thing on facebook and calls it "research"

@varyolla435

3 ай бұрын

🎯

Bob Sears, the anti-vaxx pediatrician, got his licence suspended after causing an outbreak of measles in Southern California.

@jeremeantinegogogo1096

5 жыл бұрын

Cecilie Larsen what?

@wowdragonsoul8712

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeremeantinegogogo1096 He refused to give vaccines to his patients and created/used an alternate vaccine program which was never approved which lead to several of his patients getting measles in an outbreak that can be directly lead back to him refusing to vaccinate someone. Because of this his license got taken away. John Oliver actually has an episode that covers part of that nonsense.

@se-ku3op

5 жыл бұрын

@@wowdragonsoul8712 when did that happen?

@steffiec5323

5 жыл бұрын

Could you source that please? Instead of claiming? Thank you....

@dayzee1146

5 жыл бұрын

Knoet Shoot • Do you not know how to read a YT video description box? It gives a link to his FB page.

Marissa decided that her arthritis came from vaccines through google

@tthomas2348

5 жыл бұрын

Marissa is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

@spamemail5856

5 жыл бұрын

It could of came through vaccines but I doubt it.

@kenz8902

5 жыл бұрын

fr

@arelicruz7530

5 жыл бұрын

IM SAYING 😂😂😂😂😂

@seaverino5346

5 жыл бұрын

To marissa ... arthritis > death 😂

Super respectful.. great conversation 😍

Can we get them back as an update? Especially the guy who says they test him before putting it out.